Time Nick Message 04:48 thomas63[m] hi there 04:51 thomas63[m] what are other libraries do in case of a power outage? In ours, librarians write down the borrower and the book‘s number and title to a sheet of paper. And maybe you can imagine, that this is extremely prone to error. And I mean a power outage, and all computers are down… Is there a mobile app, which scans the borrower’s member card and the book barcodes? And then export that later somehow to Koha? Is there any interface to process a 04:51 thomas63[m] list in any specific format? 05:06 mtj hi thomas63[m]: try https://bywatersolutions.com/education/monday-minutes-offline-circulation-tool 05:15 thomas63[m] thanks, I already found that, but this still needs a PC running. Unfortunately in NZ we have more power outages as in Europe. I think having a mobile phone running during a power outage is more realistic, than having a PC running. I already found a „stupid“ barcode scanner app for my iPhone, which at the end can export the data, which would simply be numbers of borrowers and numbers of books with timestamps. With some reformatting of 05:15 thomas63[m] this list, I hoped it’s possible to import it into Koha. 05:24 thomas63[m] is there somewhere a description how this Upload offline circulation file (.koc) must be created, with an own tool? I mean the exact file structure? 06:57 thomas63[m] ok, I know, RTFM 😁, I finally found it 👍 06:59 pastebot "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Example .koc file" (5 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/9076 07:00 davidnind thomas63: ^^ this is an example file I used when testing a bug some time ago - can't remember how I worked out what is required (or the bug number...) 07:15 davidnind thomas63: thinking out load here, maybe you could install the Firefox extension on a mobile device and use that (disclaimer - I have not tried it!) https://koha-community.org/manual/23.05/en/html/circulation.html#firefox-plugin 07:25 davidnind .. loud.. 08:32 tolu Good Morning here 09:21 * cait waves 09:50 tolu I need help on installing koha, please help 11:23 paulderscheid[m] What do you need help with? 11:23 paulderscheid[m] tolu 11:30 thomas63[m] <davidnind> "thomas63: thinking out load here..." <- thanks… I think about using in a first step an existing barcode scanner app from the appstore, and simply scan the borrower’s card and the book‘s barcodes in defined order. The app allows to export the scans with timestamp to a .csv file. Doing then the rest with simple Excel functions on a PC, when the power is back. I guess, it’s not really complicated. When it works, I am happy 11:30 thomas63[m] to share the solution here. 11:32 thomas63[m] thomas63[m]: I also thought about the Firefox plugin on a mobile phone, but then there is no way to use the camera as a scanner (at least I do not see a way). 11:51 mtj thomas63[m]: you could also attach a usb/bluetooth barcode scanner to your fone/tablet 11:59 mtj if you have an existing scanner attached to a circ computer, you can probably repurpose that 12:27 * cait waves at khall 12:27 * khall waves 12:27 cait :) 12:28 cait just waiting for my ktd pull to finish 12:32 cait hi caroline 12:34 cait Someone available for a SO on bug 33639? 12:34 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33639 trivial, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Needs Signoff , Adding item to item group from 'Add item' screen doesn't work 12:55 caroline hi cait! 12:55 caroline I have training this morning, but I can SO after 13:04 cait caroline: thanks :) i just failed it I am afraid :( 13:05 cait good luck with training! 13:10 cait caroline: if you have time later, bug 33590 would be great - it includes, but not only, the broken select all/unselect all link in serial collection 13:10 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33590 normal, P5 - low, ---, slavashishkin, Needs Signoff , WRAPPER tab_panel breaks JS on some pages (Select all/Clear all, post-Ajax updates) 15:51 cait caroline++ 16:32 cait lukeg++ :) 18:38 ADC_ I need help figuring out what happen to the add item section in one of my frameworks. I edited some fields and now i can't add a barcode. 18:44 caroline did you hide it? 18:45 caroline The visibility 'Editor' needs to be checked for 952$p (if you are using MARC21) 18:48 ADC_ I deleted a few fields like 000 and 008 and some others. 18:48 caroline eesh... that's not a good idea... 18:49 caroline A lot of functionalities rest on those fields 18:50 caroline It's always better, in my opinion, to 'hide' the fields rather than delete them. But those two specifically (000 and 008) should not be hidden or deleted at all 18:51 ADC_ It will not let me add anything back either. Do you know what i can do 18:52 caroline Did you remove them from the default framework or one of the other ones? 18:53 ADC_ The fast add framework 18:53 ADC_ It will not let me delete it and start over either 18:55 caroline you could try exporting the default and FA in CSV, copy the lines from the default CSV to the FA CSV and reimport it? 18:57 ADC_ Where can i get that from 18:57 ADC_ I had thought of this 18:57 caroline Administration > MARC frameworks > Action button > Export 18:58 ADC_ Wil it tell me which file to export 18:59 caroline The Action button is specific to the framework, so you'll have to do it for both 18:59 ADC_ ok let me see 19:00 ADC_ is it marc bibliographic framework that i go to 19:00 caroline yes 19:01 ADC_ the the fast add? 19:01 caroline yes, and default so you can see what are the lines that need to be added 19:02 ADC_ do the same thing in default 19:02 ADC_ then import right? 19:04 caroline you could simply import the default CSV in the FA framework and work from there if you want 19:04 caroline or you could open both files in a text editor and copy the 000 and 008 lines from the default to the FA. and then import the FA back 19:06 ADC_ Ok, can i remove unwanted fields in this csv file before importing. I am trying to keep it very simple with just author title and isbn and barcode. 19:07 ADC_ oh ok I tried to add the 000 field back myself in edit mode and it wouldn't add back. 19:09 ADC_ i am trying to keep from deleting one by one of the unwanted fields 19:10 caroline I understand the need to keep it simple 19:10 caroline especially if you're working with volunteers 19:10 ADC_ Can i delete the unwanted fileds in the csv file and upload 19:11 ADC_ just keep the required right. maybe i messed it all up when i deleted the 000 and 008 19:11 caroline You can, however I advise against deleting them. It would be better to change the visibility 19:11 caroline let me get you the values 19:12 ADC_ but you have to do that one by one right? 19:12 caroline there is a column in the CSV for visibility 19:12 caroline it should be a value between -8 and 8 19:12 ADC_ oh great! 19:13 ADC_ however don't ssee it 19:13 caroline in the subfields section? 19:13 caroline It wount be in the fields section 19:14 caroline If you enter 8 as the value, it should be completely hidden (same as unchecking all boxes) 19:14 ADC_ how do i see subfields in the ccv file 19:14 caroline it might be at the bottom? 19:15 caroline It starts with all the fields, and then all the subfields 19:16 caroline the column for visibility is called 'hidden' 19:16 caroline You can CTRL+F hidden and yoou should be able to jump to the subfields 19:18 ADC_ liblibrarian libopac repeatable mandatory important kohafield tab authorised_value authtypecode value_builder isurl hidden frameworkcode seealso link defaultvalue maxlength display_order 19:18 ADC_ That is the only word hidden 19:18 caroline yep that's the one 19:19 caroline under that line, you should see all the subfields 19:19 caroline and you can change the 'hidden' value to 8 for the ones you don't want 19:19 ADC_ oh i see i will try this. thank you so very much. 19:20 caroline +1 good luck! 19:20 ADC_ i am a copy cataloger and don't know all these fields. 19:20 ADC_ i will report back for others 20:41 ADC_ Well it didn't change anything. All those fields are still not there. Like 000 and 008 20:43 caroline Did you reimport the csv file? 20:43 caroline did it give you a message? 20:43 ADC_ yes 20:43 ADC_ no message 20:45 caroline weird. I haven't used that in many years, but it should work 20:47 caroline Ok I just tried it in master and it seems to work correctly. 20:47 ADC_ where is the master 20:48 caroline Can you try to import the csv file for the default framework in Fast add, without any changes? 20:48 caroline Maybe there was a comma missing somewhere and it freaked out, it can happen when we edit it manually 20:49 caroline master is the development version of Koha. I was working in it right now, so I tried exporting and importing and it worked fine for me 20:49 caroline granted I didn't change the CSV file 20:50 ADC_ all i changed was the hidden field 20:50 caroline what software did you use to change it? Maybe it added some characters it wasn't supposed to when you saved? 20:52 ADC_ excel 20:54 caroline It's possible it added something, or changed the separator from comma to semi-colon or something like that. 20:57 ADC_ i will try again 20:58 aleisha hello 20:59 caroline good morning aleisha! 20:59 aleisha morning caroline :)