Time  Nick             Message
07:13 ashimema         Koha doesn't include any form of CDL
07:14 ashimema         We do now offer an eRM component to help manage digital collections, but the delivery of those digital copies is still with a third party like ebsco or borrowbox or similar
07:15 ashimema         DRM is hard to keep up with and whole companies have built their wealth around that.
07:16 ashimema         Oh, pm.. Oop, misread when that last message was sent.. Riccardo is unlikely to still be here
07:17 ashimema         @later tell caroline notice templates should work with translations as you suggest.. it should depend on patron language.. is it not working?
07:17 huginn           ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:20 magnuse__        \o/
08:57 ashimema         Morning
11:08 tcohen           hola #koha o/
11:08 tcohen           @seen Joubu
11:08 huginn           tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 21 hours, 47 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <Joubu> distinct users from the same library could want different behaviours?
13:45 marcelr          o/
13:45 marcelr          ashimema++ # thx for qa
13:46 ashimema         pleasure
13:46 ashimema         it's a nice piece.. kinda surprised it's not come up before now
13:46 ashimema         also... was a welcome distraction from the policy documents I'm meant to be composing. 😜
13:48 marcelr          there is another bug in fqa that triggered me to try a plugin approach
13:48 marcelr          the feature is already wanted for so many years
13:50 ashimema         I really want to improve our plugins infrastructure still
13:50 ashimema         it would e so nice to have more of an 'app store' approach to plugins
13:50 ashimema         easy discoverability
13:50 ashimema         secure signed plugins
13:50 ashimema         etc etc
13:50 ashimema         stuff dcook and I have discused for a while
13:51 marcelr          sounds good
13:51 marcelr          we still need to define an order of execution too
13:51 marcelr          instead of installation order
13:52 ashimema         yup
13:52 ashimema         true
13:52 marcelr          maybe a priority number from the metadata would be nice ?
13:53 marcelr          and maybe not :)
13:56 * cait           waves whle running fromone meeting to the next
14:00 ashimema         I think you'd need to allow the library to set the order from the staff client somewhere
14:16 tundunf          hi everyone :)
14:43 ashimema         hi tundunf
14:52 tcohen           PedroAmorim[m]: can you check if it is only me having cypress tests fail?
14:52 tcohen           thanks
14:54 PedroAmorim[m]   can do, one moment
15:01 PedroAmorim[m]   yes cypress tests are failing
15:01 tcohen           ok
15:01 PedroAmorim[m]   one of the causes is a fix needed from 32495
15:02 tcohen           can you take care?
15:02 PedroAmorim[m]   In 33066 I fixed other of the causes (I believe)
15:02 tcohen           I can help
15:02 tcohen           but right now I'm on a deep dive on bug 33227
15:02 huginn           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33227 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , OpenAPI validation is failing for paths/biblios.yaml
15:03 tcohen           adding unit tests to catch this, tweaking KTD to have swagger-cli available, etc
15:03 PedroAmorim[m]   sure I can take care of it, just left it as it was because I thought it made sense to have these fixes in their respective bugs
15:03 PedroAmorim[m]   should I create a separate bug for this and fix all of them?
15:03 tcohen           do it in one bug, make sure the commit explains each fix
15:04 PedroAmorim[m]   copy that
15:04 paulderscheid[m] Will this be a problem for us?
15:04 paulderscheid[m] https://blog.alexellis.io/docker-is-deleting-open-source-images/
15:04 ashimema         pedro amorin++
15:05 tcohen           paulderscheid[m]: yes, I got the email yesterday
15:05 tcohen           haven't had the chance to digest it yet
15:06 paulderscheid[m] Seems pretty bad
15:06 tcohen           there are alternatives, including quay.io or even gitlab (which we have the premium tier)
15:07 paulderscheid[m] quay is pretty good
15:07 ashimema         perplexedtheta has been looking at options from this end
15:07 tcohen           at Theke we use gitlab with no issues so far
15:08 tcohen           so not even the preium tier the community has access to
15:08 paulderscheid[m] Sure, hope that they don't pull the same crap in the future..
15:08 paulderscheid[m] @GitLab
15:08 huginn           paulderscheid[m]: I suck
15:08 paulderscheid[m] Wtd
15:09 tcohen           we should discuss this in 1.5 weeks
15:09 paulderscheid[m] Yes
15:09 tcohen           khall_ is a quay fan
15:11 paulderscheid[m] Me too, works great with podman
15:14 tcohen           in my opinion we should go full Gitlab
15:15 caroline         ashimema, thanks for your reply re: account translations. So the interface language is not enough to have the account print translated on slips, is that what I understand?
15:15 cait             mtj: if you are around: I notice that the history.txt is missing on our new package installation too (bug 33168)
15:15 huginn           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33168 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Timeline on "About Koha" is not working
15:15 paulderscheid[m] Great topic for the Hackfest :D
15:15 ashimema         I believe so caroline
15:15 cait             paulderscheid[m]: my topic list starts to explode already
15:15 ashimema         I 'think' it's all translated into the patrons lagnauge
15:15 cait             can we maybe extend to a month?
15:16 ashimema         in theory
15:16 paulderscheid[m] ^^ cait
15:16 caroline         ok I will try... most of our clients don't use TranslateNotices, since all their patrons are french speakers
15:17 tcohen           can someone write a nice slider that lets you shift time and see the information appear
15:17 tcohen           about the timeline
15:17 ashimema         2 week hackfest
15:17 ashimema         gets my vote
15:19 caroline         ashimema, I confirm what you said!
15:20 caroline         Would it be a bug if TranslateNotices is off, the slip prints in english all the time? Shouldn't the interface language be taken into consideration if the pref is off?
15:21 caroline         or if patron's language preference is Default
15:22 paulderscheid[m] @tcohen some sort of slider component?
15:22 huginn           paulderscheid[m]: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:23 ashimema         er...
15:23 ashimema         good question carolin
15:23 ashimema         s/carolin/caroline/
15:23 ashimema         not sure actually
15:24 caroline         I'll write up a bug report and we'll see what others say
15:26 ashimema         good idea
15:32 ashimema         caroline: https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/C4/Letters.pm
15:32 ashimema         that's where this fits together if it helps
15:32 ashimema         https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/C4/Letters.pm#L147
15:32 ashimema         even
15:33 ashimema         in fact. it's here I think
15:33 ashimema         https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/C4/Letters.pm#L1597
15:33 ashimema         could get complicated
15:34 caroline         when are translations not complicated? :)
15:38 tcohen           I'm very happy bug 14251 is PQA. Can't believe it was still around
15:38 huginn           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14251 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Allow use of CSS in discharge letter
15:41 ashimema         scary
15:48 marcelr          is it part of the Allow css everywhere -omnibus ?
15:50 marcelr          glad to see use IPC::Cmd btw lol
16:14 thd              ashimema: Was there not a documentation meeting scheduled for now?
16:14 ashimema         pass
16:14 caroline         thd tomorrow
16:15 thd              Oh yes, it always was on Thursdays.  Not the best day for me.
16:15 caroline         If you're Eastern, it's tomorrow at noon
19:03 thd              tcohen: Wiki password reset email is still not going through with one reset $wgPasswordReminderResendTime = 1; in /mediawiki/config/LocalSettings.php .  I will revert to what must be the no restrictions value as it was what was previously stored in the database $wgPasswordReminderResendTime = 0;
19:07 thd              davidnz: Password reset email messages do not go through currently whether $wgPasswordReminderResendTime is set to 1 or 0 which must mean no restriction to which I have restored the value.
19:08 thd              davidnz: I can reset wiki passwords for users on the command line.
19:10 thd              davidnz: I sent tcohen, who is autoaway, a message.
19:11 thd              davidnz: Messages go through his email server.
19:13 davidnz          thd: Thanks! If you could reset for account Emlam, that would be great.
19:27 thd              davidnz: Did you see that or am I logged in?
19:31 davidnz          ? I did see your messages, if that is what you mean
19:43 thd              davidnz: Maybe no one could have seen the value of $wgPasswordReminderResendTime directly because it had never been set but 0 which worked when everything is not the current default of 24 hours between password resets which would be harsh especially when email is problematic in part because of the Docker container.   0 seems to be no restrictions on multiple password resets per hour which is probably fine if we have no problem with flooding th
19:43 thd              e email server with password reset messages.
19:44 thd              s/when everything/when everything was working before using Docker/
19:45 thd              There are some Docker specific difficulties and difficulties migrating to a new host
19:54 davidnz          👍
23:41 dcook_           @later tell mtj Oh thanks for the info about that devscripts conflict! That one was so aggravating.
23:41 huginn           dcook_: The operation succeeded.