Time  Nick             Message
08:24 cait1            good morning #koha
08:58 paxed            accountlines.interface is NOT NULL, but has no default value. everywhere else interface seems to be DEFAULT NULL?
08:59 paxed            also varchar(16), other interfaces are varchar(30)
09:37 cait1            paxed: sounds like a bug, could you file?
10:14 ashimema         varchar(16) sounds like a bug
10:14 ashimema         but I think the NOT NULL wasn't.. I think we wanted to ensure accurate data.. but I could be wrong
10:14 ashimema         I can't see a great reason to no allow NULL honestly.
10:15 cait1            old data
10:15 cait1            maybe
10:44 tcohen           hola #koha o/
10:45 tcohen           fields like interface should be enum I'd say
10:54 tcohen           hola #koha o/
11:02 ashimema         Morning tcohen :-)
11:02 ashimema         Agreed on the enum
11:11 oleonard         o/
11:32 oleonard         Anyone have an opinion on whether we should use a common include file between auth_subfields_structure.tt and marc_subfields_structure.tt?
11:33 oleonard         The entry forms are mostly identical
11:42 ashimema         hell yes
11:43 oleonard         I shall call on you ashimema to check my work
11:44 ashimema         sure thing 🙂
11:47 oleonard         I wish my kids had caught the Koha bug, I could use a little sweatshop working for me
11:52 ashimema         haha
11:52 ashimema         well.. I got mine going for a little while, then boys and ballet and climbing got back in the way again 😛
12:06 cait1            maybe we could train cats? :)
12:20 cait1            hm odd, I have a lotof catalouging entries for item add biblio add that have interface opac?
12:21 cait1            wondr if these are ILL records
12:21 cait1            yes. they are
12:22 cait1            ok, that explains :)
12:22 oleonard         Does anyone know why there is a disabled "Koha link" <select> in marc_subfields_structure.tt?
12:23 oleonard         It says "This select should be DISABLED; value is submitted by the following hidden input"
12:23 cait1            is that the one with the field in items/biblio etc. or another?
12:24 oleonard         subfield constraints, under advanced constraints
12:24 cait1            if so, then because these are now controlled by the default framework only (no sure if you can change them in default, but you can from the koha-to-marc-mappings
12:24 oleonard         I just wonder why we display a disabled form element if there is a hidden input controlling it
12:25 cait1            maybe a not ideal solution when this was changed?
12:25 cait1            orginally you could control the mapping per frameowrk
12:25 cait1            but we got rid of that some while ago
12:25 cait1            a read/only /just display text thing might make more sense now?
12:26 cait1            ... while you are staring at this, can I report a bug?
12:26 cait1            when you "view subfields" and click on the subfield, the right subfield is not selected
12:26 oleonard         I am SO staring at this.
12:27 oleonard         Ah you're right
12:28 * cait1          sends oleonard cookies and eye drops
12:29 cait1            I am staring at database statements if that helps
12:29 oleonard         Haha
12:29 cait1            trying to figure out if we should expect any issues updating from 20.11 to 22.11
12:29 cait1            last time we accidentally updated the timestamp in deleteditems which threw our yearly statistics off... triyng to avoid a repeat
12:29 cait1            ... and that's a lot of database updates
12:30 oleonard         Looking at diffs in a GUI is the only time I miss Windows... Windows has a good open source diff program...
13:03 cait1            hmmm i had used something nice in linux a while ago
13:04 cait1            i can check if I wrote the name down somewhere
13:05 marcelr          o/
13:05 cait1            oleonard: i think tmight have been Meld
13:06 oleonard         cait1: I'm actually trying a port of that now cait1!
13:06 cait1            I used it to merge XSLT files... standard Koha and custom ones
13:09 Annelisterman[m] Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24767 says that Claims tab will disappear from the patron page if the ClaimReturnedLostValue syspref is not set. But it does not work in version 22.11. Has something changed?
13:09 huginn           04Bug 24767: minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, CLOSED FIXED, "Claim returned" feature cannot be turned off
13:12 cait1            Annelisterman[m]: not aware of a change, but we don't really use that feature (might also be interested in hiding)
13:12 cait1            could you hide it from column config?
13:12 Annelisterman[m] Well it's not a column so propably not. But I can try.
13:13 cait1            ah, i was thinking about the one in checkouts
13:13 cait1            i think there it would work
13:15 cait1            can someone remind me which feature uses the collections_tracking table?
13:15 Annelisterman[m] claims_returned column is hidden and it does not affect the tab.
13:16 cait1            yeah, i as thinking of the column on the checkouts table
13:21 cait1            tre table question: stock rotation
13:29 marcelr          @later tell khall please look at the followup on 32684
13:29 huginn           marcelr: The operation succeeded.
13:41 Annelisterman[m] It looks like BundleLostValue syspref has to be empty too for the Claims tab to disappear. Which is weard to me.
13:42 Annelisterman[m] How are they related? :D
14:09 cait1            Annelisterman[m]: it does sound a little wird, ashimema might know?
14:31 caroline         good morning! how's wednesday so far?
14:35 cait1            caroline: dangeorus question :)
14:41 ashimema         ah.. right..
14:42 ashimema         they are related in so much as the bundle feature uses claims values for tracking items found to be missing from bundles
14:42 cait1            Annelisterman[m]: ^
15:25 caroline         Followup for my XML parser question from yesterday... I tried the manipulation described here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_tarball#Test_to_make_sure_the_SAX_Parser_is_setup_correctly on my Ubuntu computer, and I still get the 500 errors in 22.05
16:02 cait1            you mentioned problematic characters yesterday - do you have an example of what cuses breakage?
16:06 caroline         cait1, in the database, it shows up as a space, but I'm pretty sure it's not a space
16:07 pastebot         "caroline" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "more_subfields_xml" (6 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/1977
16:07 caroline         This is one of the problematic items, 952$k contains something it doesn't like
16:55 oleonard         Anyone around who has experience with item type groups?
16:56 caroline         oleonard, the search groups?
16:56 oleonard         Item type parents and children
16:56 caroline         and also what kind of experience? dev? or usage? :)
16:56 caroline         I have one client who uses that
16:57 oleonard         It looks to me like, when setting a circ rule on both the parent and the child, the child circ rule doesn't override the parent
16:57 oleonard         Is there any kind of inheritance?
16:58 caroline         I think this is what you're thinking? bug 30324
16:58 huginn           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30324 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Parent and child itemtype checkout limits not enforced as expected
16:58 caroline         Also parent/child circ rules are *only* for checkout limits
16:59 oleonard         Wow, okay
16:59 oleonard         Thanks caroline
18:25 kidclamp         I don't know if this file is useful: https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/pages/addbiblio.js;h=05c6b534f939ff11124065aaee803fb5c473ec8b;hb=HEAD
18:50 caroline         lol!