Time  Nick                Message
22:32 caroline            It says it looks bad on my computer... I'll try the solution tomorrow see if I can open the corrupted records/items
22:27 caroline            thanks Frido! Does this change from Koha version to Koha version? The problem appeared after we updated a client from 21.05 to 22.05
22:24 fridolin            even if on Debian
22:24 fridolin            https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_tarball#Test_to_make_sure_the_SAX_Parser_is_setup_correctly
22:24 fridolin            caroline: maybe look at
20:54 caroline            Does anyone have sudden XML parser problems? It seems it's a bit more sensitive now and breaks every time there is a character it doesn't like
18:38 cait                yes, I'll try to fid out something, but not tonight :)
18:36 tcohen              as I cannot reproduce at all
18:36 tcohen              well, the devil is in the details
18:33 cait                we don#t eed changes in the editor for a new notice
18:33 cait                but that not make a difference I think?
18:33 cait                CART/LIST I was working with
18:33 cait                it was a new catalog notice
18:33 cait                sorry, on the other computer now
18:30 tcohen              we should have the build actually break in such cases...
18:30 tcohen              ashimema: the API docs are broken due to a failure fetching the spec from the community repo
18:30 tcohen              can you share the URL?
18:29 tcohen              any particular notice?
18:28 cait                I'll keep an eye on it
18:28 tcohen              kidding, I cannot reproduce here, unfortunately
18:27 tcohen              he
18:27 tcohen              maybe the URL contains a 'method=add' or smth
18:27 cait                that should not be a css issue i think
18:27 cait                rebult, it all looked good, just my form kept emptying out
18:27 cait                yes i did
18:25 tcohen              yarn build
18:25 tcohen              ktd --shell
18:25 tcohen              inside the instance user
18:25 tcohen              yarn build
18:24 tcohen              have you rebuilt the stuff
18:24 tcohen              it does
18:24 cait                the initial one always worked ok for me too
18:24 cait                and see if it remains ok
18:24 cait                try "save an dcontinue"
18:23 tcohen              expanded the Email version, all looks correct
18:23 tcohen              I opened the WELCOME notice
18:21 ashimema            Weird
18:18 cait                it kept coming up empty again and again today for an existig notice... after reloading a few times my content came back, severl restart_all etc. nothing fixed it
18:17 cait                I#d really be interested if someone else sees wonky things in the notices editor
18:17 tcohen              ^^ that works, the rest of the API sites don't
18:17 tcohen              https://api.koha-community.org/20.05.html
18:15 tcohen              my bouncer is doing funny things right now https://snipboard.io/DyTCP5.jpg
18:15 tcohen              haha
18:15 tcohen              gotcha
18:10 ashimema            ;)
18:09 ashimema            Definitely offline tcohen
18:03 cait                you are
17:57 tcohen              I am
17:56 tcohen              am I online?
16:16 oleonard            ...but I'd love to make both pages use the same form...
16:15 caroline            but they're good ideas!
16:15 oleonard            I need to stop getting ideas in my head like "why not use the same table for both auth_subfield_structure and marc_subfield_structure?
15:40 cait                i actually got it working now
15:40 cait                :)
15:39 oleonard            Yeah I ran into that just yesterday, had forgotten
15:38 cait                it wants the object I tugess
15:38 cait                oh. I think I know.
15:37 cait                I have the Process line and I think the No title actually comes from the biblio-title.inc... I just don't understand why it doesn't work
15:37 cait                any idea why this prints the biblionumber just fine: ([% entry.biblionumber %] but this gives me "No title"? [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title.inc'  biblio=entry.biblionumber %]
15:37 cait                notices...
15:36 * oleonard-away     doesn't know but fears git will blame him
15:30 cait                and it also happens when I save and continue - the content and subject is gone
15:30 cait                anyone seen that?
15:30 cait                half the time the contents appear empty until I reload
15:29 cait                the notices editor is behaving really oddly today
15:02 cait                I think having the option woudl make sense - wonder how it would be implemented search wise - something about the subfield for itemnumbers maybe?
15:00 cait                ... we wanted to hide those, but not these...
15:00 caroline            A client was asking me, and before I said no, I wanted to make sure it was not possible :) I'm going to propose he use 942$n in batch modification
15:00 oleonard            cait: agreed, we wouldn't use it! But it seems like a logical option to have
15:00 cait                :)
15:00 cait                just warning you, it might get more complicated if the library hasn't thought of those
15:00 caroline            I agree that most of the time you'd want to show records without items for those sorts...
14:59 cait                analytical records for serials and monographs (articles)
14:59 cait                set records
14:59 cait                traced series records, serial records with subscriptions but no items, electronic resources
14:59 cait                in our catalogs there are tons of valid records without items
14:57 oleonard            it seems like a logical analogue to the hidelostitems preference
14:57 caroline            thanks cait it's what I thought, but just wanted to make sure
14:49 cait                caroline: I am not aware of an automatism for that
14:45 caroline            Is it possible to hide the records that have no items from the opac?
13:44 cait1               i mean a character that would make problems if it appeared in a name as it's a combined one
13:44 cait1               Â not sure if that is a character and how it would be seen by the script
13:36 cait1               maybe it can also be checked that it's the first character in search? as a precaution
13:35 cait1               I can't imagine...
13:28 kidclamp            or do we expect that character in names?
13:27 kidclamp            I would also like to add support for '^' as "Begins with" search, if there are no objections - on its own bug of course
13:26 cait1               coudl you include the % hint in your pref descripton please?
13:25 kidclamp            I think that's what it is
13:25 cait1               the bigger your data... the more exact you need the search to be
13:25 cait1               it might be a small vs big library issue mostly
13:24 cait1               do you have feedback from the library it was changed for?
13:23 cait1               I think for the stables and backport at least that woud be good
13:23 kidclamp            I am happy to make 'contains' the default
13:23 cait1               when i do an autocomplete for scher, my name comes up
13:22 cait1               but I thinkt he new behaviour is the regression tbh - i just tried in 20.11 - and it is a contains there too
13:22 kidclamp            I agree with Cait - easier in a consortium to tell libraries it works one way
13:22 cait1               I think a majority might be for consistent behaviour
13:21 Joubu               distinct users from the same library could want different behaviours?
13:19 kidclamp            explain
13:18 Joubu               that's a user preference, not system
13:18 Joubu               that should not be a pref
13:14 cait1               less amusing is sad, but I agree
13:14 kidclamp            maybe a less amusing name
13:13 kidclamp            :-)
13:13 kidclamp            I think an autocompletecompleteness pref
13:13 cait1               unless we also start to display the options in all those places
13:13 cait1               most likely they won't
13:13 cait1               the auto complete is used in a lot of places and people might not connect that to the filter options
13:13 cait1               not sure if that would be intuitive enough
13:12 cait1               so separate issues
13:12 cait1               right... this patron search and we were talkign auto-complete earlier
13:12 kidclamp            or like joubu said, make the autocomplete respect the filters
13:12 cait1               but the problem with the filters is also that they jump back tp default after each search, they don't stick
13:12 kidclamp            I think we could affect only the autocomplete
13:12 cait1               it looks like it might
13:11 cait1               hm would it work as they want if we made the type of serach default configurable?
13:10 cait1               22.11 : left hand fitelrs default to contians, the expanded filters on top to begins with
13:10 kidclamp            matser mine is defaulting to starts with
13:10 cait1               oh interesting
13:10 cait1               same for our 22.11
13:09 cait1               the filters default to contains there
13:09 cait1               or maybe we changed that too, I was looking at a 20.11 - that's pre new patron serach
13:09 cait1               hm which filters?
13:08 kidclamp            the normal patron search follows the filters - mine seems to default to starts with
13:08 kidclamp            to be clear, it is still possible to achieve previous results by adding % at the start
13:08 cait1               the normal patron search also uses contains
13:07 cait1               we also have double hyphenated double names, especially when people marry
13:06 cait1               it's clearly a regression for some of us - german too
13:06 cait1               ah,... ok... i shoudl read all
13:06 cait1               your bug description is about cardnumber
13:05 kidclamp            the name parts are exactly what our libraries were complaining about
13:05 cait1               like cardnumber, library, etc should not use contains but name parts shoud?
13:04 cait1               kidclamp: is treating different fields differently an option?
13:03 cait1               hm can't beleive it didn't work for that long... but i might always use the ones ont he left?
12:56 huginn              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33155 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Category and library filters from header patron search not taken into account
12:56 Joubu               bug 33155
12:53 Joubu               broken for 8 years \o/
12:47 Joubu               well, add the filters for check out *and* use them for the autocomplete query
12:46 Joubu               I am looking at fixing library and category filters
12:46 Joubu               maybe that's the solution for 33117, add the filters for check out, and make them sticky?
12:45 Joubu               search field and search type are, not library and category
12:45 kidclamp            is that true? I get differetn results with starts with or contains
12:44 Joubu               they are actually not taken into account at all :D
12:43 kidclamp            correct
12:43 Joubu               they are actually not taken into account for autocomplete results
12:42 Joubu               https://snipboard.io/UV6ubv.jpg
12:42 Joubu               have*
12:42 Joubu               kidclamp: shouldn't we instead of the filters for "check out" as well?
12:37 marcelr             o/
12:32 ashimema            I'll try to have a look at your feedback properly now Joubu
12:32 ashimema            that's one support ticket down
12:32 ashimema            right
12:27 kidclamp            Syspref?
12:27 kidclamp            Heh, I "fixed" searching for other libraries
12:19 huginn              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33117 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron checkout search not working if searching with second surname
12:19 cait1               bug 33117
12:19 cait1               heh, yeah,... I pondered how i could have said that in a nicer way
12:18 tcohen              kidclamp never breaks, he puts us at test
12:18 cait1               i think
12:18 cait1               you broke the patron search for spanish and other double names
12:14 kidclamp            what's up?
12:12 * kidclamp          waves
12:12 * cait1             summons kidclamp
12:12 cait1               alittle more worried about the patron search one tbh because that's in stable
12:12 cait1               we'll fix all the things
12:08 ashimema            get onto asap
12:08 ashimema            but I am aware you've pointed things out so will
12:08 Joubu               I am not really showing interest to be honest, just hitting bugs and conflicts :D
12:08 ashimema            I need to fix my support issues before I can revisit it
12:07 ashimema            I wish you'd shown some interest when I wrote the stuff months ago ☹️
12:06 huginn              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31028 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs documenting , Add 'Report a concern' feature for patrons to report concerns about catalog records
12:06 Joubu               tcohen, ashimema: bug 31028 really needs more attention
11:26 oleonard            there's one that calls the docker and the docker said, no more monkeys jumping on the bed.
10:51 tcohen              there's one that calls docker
10:50 tcohen              Joubu: the ktd hooks are designed to run outside the container
10:48 tcohen              indeed
10:47 Joubu               yes, we should add one then :)
10:47 tcohen              Joubu: there's no pre-push hook for GPG signed commits
10:47 * oleonard          walks in and immediately walks out
10:45 Joubu               the item form is centered, it used to be left aligned
10:45 Joubu               alignment
10:43 cait1               hm you didn't mean the labels, did you? just the whole thing?
10:41 huginn              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32759 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Item form when creating items on receive is misaligned
10:41 cait1               bug 32759
10:41 huginn              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32758 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Item form when receiving serial issues is misaligned
10:41 cait1               bug 32758
10:41 cait1               but the formatting of the item form in general is still broken in some spots with the new design :(
10:40 cait1               we have complaints that the short terms etc were far from the fields (or there was not enough space for long translations) - it's been left aligend for some time
10:40 cait1               they match the labels on the normal item form now
10:40 cait1               the labels are expected
10:40 cait1               yes
10:40 ashimema            I have a vague memory I pointed that out at some point too
10:37 Joubu               https://snipboard.io/n94elh.jpg - is this expected? The item form is no longer left aligned
10:36 ashimema            will dig back in in a bit.. struggling to juggle calls
10:36 ashimema            but I'm not seeing any changes in this area since this version on the 21.11 branch
10:36 ashimema            it's a 21.11.05 install.. my next stab in the dark was going to be to try and bring it up to latest 21.11.x
10:35 cait1               just the other person who might know heh
10:35 ashimema            basket.basket_group,biblio.active_orders+count,biblio.holds+count,biblio.items+count,biblio.suggestions.suggester,fund,current_item_level_holds+count,items
10:35 tcohen              hola #koha o/
10:35 Joubu               which ones?
10:35 ashimema            it's the order recieve page.. the api call there just outright 500's
10:34 ashimema            yeah.. loads of embed
10:34 ashimema            I 'think' it might be data
10:34 Joubu               no embed?
10:34 ashimema            no customisation around acq
10:34 ashimema            brb.. been called into another meeting
10:33 cait1               maybe something others don't have?
10:33 cait1               is this a standard Koha or are there customizations that could be it?
10:32 ashimema            GET /api/v1/acquisitions/orders: unhandled exception (Koha::Exceptions::Object::MethodNotCoveredByTests)<<The method Koha::Biblioitem->active_orders is not covered by tests!
10:31 ashimema            seems to just be this one server too
10:31 ashimema            but I can't for the life of me work out why!
10:31 ashimema            for some reason I keep getting MethodNotCoveredByTests exceptions thrown against Biblioitem.. which I understand.. it should be getting called against Biblio
10:31 * cait1             knows acq pretty well, just not the API
10:31 cait1               do you have any error or so?
10:31 cait1               hm :( probably can't help much then
10:30 ashimema            yup
10:30 cait1               REST API?
10:28 ashimema            can't for the life of me work out why an acquisitions endpoint isn't happy ☹️
10:28 * ashimema          is well and truly stuck on a support call today
10:25 cait1               Joubu++ ashimema++
09:35 ashimema            thanks dude
09:18 Joubu               They are currently building with their new config
09:17 Joubu               ashimema: Koha_22.11_D12 config is fixed, and Koha_22.11_D11 is now running the full test suite. Other jobs are correct
09:13 ashimema            I'm confused.. I'm sure they were accurate to start with
09:08 Joubu               I have no idea who created the 22.11 jobs, but they are not correctly setup, "Koha_22.11_D12" is actually running 22.05...
09:06 Joubu               mtj, tuxayo, tcohen, ashimema: I removed the "supported" view on jenkins, and "Enabled" is now the default view.
09:05 Joubu               tuxayo: nevermind, it's done
09:04 Joubu               tuxayo: If you are the one who created it
09:03 Joubu               tuxayo: can you remove the "supported" view on jenkins please? https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/supported/
09:01 Joubu               end of "standard" support is April 2023, end of life of 2028
08:59 ashimema            But I might be wrong.. tuxayo was keeping on top of those things I thought
08:58 ashimema            A while ago I believe.. falling in line with when Ubuntu stopped supporting that version
08:58 Joubu               ashimema: ok, "supported" tab must be removed actually, I am removing it. It's not maintained
08:55 Joubu               Where/where did we decide to drop support for U18?
08:53 ashimema            I tend to maintain the dashboard side by cloning the existing lines and replacing the version numbers.. if we change naming scheme in Jenkins things can go wrong
08:52 ashimema            Thanks dude
08:52 ashimema            It's been a while since I properly dug on the Jenkins side
08:52 Joubu               I am on it, nevermind
08:52 ashimema            I imagine seeing are mis-labelled
08:52 ashimema            Will look when I'm back from school run
08:51 Joubu               but the dashboard has more
08:51 Joubu               https://jenkins.koha-community.org/ tab "supported" shows Koha_22.11_D10, Koha_22.11_D11, Koha_22.11_D11_ES7, Koha_22.11_D11_OS7
08:50 ashimema            Ho,
08:50 Joubu               there is no full run, only ligth runs
08:50 ashimema            And yes, I agree it would be good to catch crypto signs in the prepush
08:49 ashimema            What would to say we're missing?
08:48 ashimema            Oh really
08:47 Joubu               jenkins builds I mean
08:47 Joubu               ashimema: we are missing builds for 22.11
08:39 Joubu               we should add it then ;)
08:32 ashimema            I think that's what tcohen meant
08:31 ashimema            I don't think the pre-push hook catches -S signatures.. i.e. signed with key not just SO line
08:27 huginn              Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:27 Joubu               @later tell tcohen "oh, I ctrl+c too late" There is the pre-push hook so should prevent you from pushing in that case...
07:39 alex_               Bonjour
07:30 TriveniChandriki[m] 21.05 still working fine. After 21.11 koha version we are facing issues items modification and sip2
07:28 TriveniChandriki[m] Any body help on koha git installation in single server multiple instances
07:04 davidnind           kim: not for the software itself, but if you don't have the expertise/skills in implementing and hosting Koha you may need to engage one of the support providers that do
06:35 kim                 Hi, just wanna ask if do we need to pay anything if we wanted to change our library system into Koha?