Time Nick Message 19:59 caroline It works great! 19:59 caroline We have bitwarden self hosted, I think it's free when it's self hosted? 19:58 huginn davidnind: The operation succeeded. 19:58 davidnind @later tell magnuse I use Bitwarden personally, not sure how it would work for a business (there are business plans and pricing) 19:13 caroline cool! thanks davidnind!! 19:13 davidnind caroline: agenda for next meeting created and calendar update 18:37 oleonard I'll see if I can break some things... 18:35 cait one gets copied, the other doesnรt 18:35 cait i think that's right 18:34 ashimema Translations perhaps.. a long time ago 18:34 ashimema I've wondered similar 18:34 ashimema I imagine it's just historic oleonard 18:26 davidnind ashimema: we didn't 18:23 oleonard I wonder if there's a good reason why we have opac-tmpl/lib and opac-tmpl/bootstrap/lib... 18:14 * ashimema goes back to dinner 18:13 ashimema Did you talk about moving meetings into vid calls? 18:12 marie-luce caroline++ 18:10 davidnind I'll run the meeting script later today, now that it is working again 18:09 aude_c see you next time! 18:09 cait caroline++ 18:09 caroline see you soon! thanks everyone! 18:09 davidnind caroline++ 18:09 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2023/documentation_irc_meeting_16_february_2023.2023-02-16-17.02.log.html 18:09 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2023/documentation_irc_meeting_16_february_2023.2023-02-16-17.02.txt 18:09 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2023/documentation_irc_meeting_16_february_2023.2023-02-16-17.02.html 18:09 huginn Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 18:09:21 2023 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 18:09 caroline #endmeeting 18:09 caroline #info Next meeting: 16 March, 2023, 16 UTC 18:08 caroline 16UTC is noon Eastern, 5am in NZ and 5pm in central europe 18:07 marie-luce +1 18:07 davidnind +1 18:07 cait should be ok 18:06 aude_c yes for me 18:06 caroline would march 16 work? 18:06 caroline #topic Set time of next meeting 18:06 cait hard to focus right now 18:05 cait maybe better 18:05 caroline we can talk about it next meeting? 18:05 cait oh 18:05 caroline sorry, I'm confusing things by talking about two things at the same time because they are both about describing sysprefs 18:04 caroline yes I know, this last one is only for the separation of several sysprefs in the same sentence, not for the options 18:03 cait and not sure how we'd do that for something with a lot of options? 18:03 cait hm the Default line is an issue there 18:03 caroline thx davidnind! please do! 18:02 caroline Maybe if we separate it a bit like I did in the last screenshot (https://snipboard.io/kwxULT.jpg), it could help 18:02 davidnind A while ago I mapped out some of the elements for system preferences that you would want to know (name, system preference text (asks), options, description, warnings, important notes, history (when added, changed, etc), etc) - just need to decide how to present these and then make them work for translation 8-) (will add comments to the bug) 18:01 cait i wish we had some way to do context :( 18:01 cait yeah 18:01 caroline but it's a good (if extreme) example of what we have to deal with 18:00 caroline it's pretty insane already tbh https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/circulationpreferences.html#decreaseloanhighholds-decreaseloanhighholdsduration-decreaseloanhighholdsvalue-decreaseloanhighholdscontrol-and-decreaseloanhighholdsignorestatuses 17:58 cait I see what you mean about the complex one... that one is insance 17:58 cait hm trying to catch up :) 17:57 caroline cait the last screenshot, is something different 17:57 cait if the Default is Enable 17:57 cait on the last screenshot 17:57 cait the Default is probably an issue 17:56 cait sorry had a call 17:55 caroline the other options we found needed developer help, but this is something we can do to alleviate the problem 17:54 davidnind great! 17:54 caroline davidnind, I think so since the options are not separate from the sentence 17:53 davidnind Does this help with the translation issues (I assume it does) 17:53 caroline I also tried something different for many sysprefs in the same block/sentence https://snipboard.io/kwxULT.jpg 17:53 aude_c i don't think i know enough to comment on this 17:53 davidnind I've some ideas and will post on the bug 17:53 caroline it's almost the end of the hour, but please let me know if this could be a viable option for describing sysprefs 17:52 caroline bon appรฉtit! 17:52 ashimema Dinner time here I'm afraid so I'm clocking out, apologies 17:51 caroline https://snipboard.io/2ZxHrt.jpg 17:51 caroline I had a bit of trouble with more complex sysprefs https://snipboard.io/FytHOM.jpg 17:50 caroline What do you think? 17:50 caroline https://snipboard.io/jOqF7W.jpg 17:50 caroline I tried some things 17:49 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, david, ASSIGNED , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences 17:49 caroline we talked about bug 29063 before 17:49 caroline #topic Content development guidelines 17:48 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32391 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, david, ASSIGNED , [DOCS] Reorganise the manual contents 17:48 caroline #action ashimema to check for the manual keyword vs Needs documenting status 17:48 davidnind #info Manual reorganisation update and preview - still a work in progress but gives the general idea https://davidnind.gitlab.io/koha-docs-reorganise/ Comments welcome on bug 32391 17:48 caroline ok more delegating... 17:48 caroline I want to skip a couple of empty topics and go directly to content development guidelines to talk about sysprefs 17:48 ashimema I've been meaning to, for the dashboard, just haven't found a moment 17:47 ashimema I could try to catch the keyword and docs part of bugzilla instead 17:47 caroline delegating++ XD 17:47 caroline #action cait to close the Docs mailing list 17:46 davidnind +1 17:46 caroline cait can you do it? 17:45 caroline So I guess we can closed it? 17:45 caroline last action point caroline to send an email to the mailing list about possibly closing it down --> done, no one answered 17:45 caroline so it was really just checking if it was possible 17:45 caroline I had added if not possible to change bz in batch we change them as we get to them 17:44 caroline https://meetings.koha-community.org/2023/documentation_irc_meeting_2023_01_19.2023-01-19-15.02.log.html (around 15:40) 17:43 caroline cait had said I think we can do bulk actions, but not sure if it might create a mess the Manual keyword is still kinda nice if you can't change the status yet, but already know it will affect manual 17:43 ashimema ? 17:41 caroline I think we had some reticence on the result, but I don't remember what they were 17:41 ashimema I like the idea though 17:41 ashimema I've not looked at the database closely enough to really judge 17:41 ashimema I imagine it's not too terribly difficult to do... But would need rangi.. I don't have the server access 17:40 ashimema Oh, I hadn't realised I'd been volunteered for that 17:40 caroline *this 17:40 caroline was thing feasible? 17:39 caroline cait or ashimema to check if we can change 'manual' keywords to 'Nedds documenting' status in bugzilla in batch 17:39 caroline moving on to other action points... 17:39 marie-luce davidind++ 17:39 caroline davidnind++ 17:38 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29716 enhancement, P4, ---, david, ASSIGNED , [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework 17:38 davidnind feel free to comment on bug 29716 17:38 davidnind probably not, if anyone is interested I'm happy to chat 17:36 caroline alright, any other concerns or ideas regarding screenshot update? I didn't follow the automation convo, do I need to action or info anything? 17:35 caroline #info have a jitsi meeting session running (https://meet.jit.si/KohaDocumentationTeam) for those participating virtually 17:35 davidnind it should - you can basically make it naything 17:35 aude_c it should 17:35 aude_c +1 17:35 caroline does that link work already? 17:35 caroline I'm ok with jitsi 17:34 davidnind maybe also have a jitsi meeting session running (https://meet.jit.si/KohaDocumentationTeam) for those participating virtually (or Zoom or whatever) 17:34 aude_c should we set up a video call to have a chat too? 17:34 marie-luce I'll be keen to learn! 17:34 caroline #info remember to turn off auto build 17:33 aude_c we could be inducting new people to the joys of Docs and screenshots in the morning (French time) 17:33 caroline #info there will be a frama to assign chapters 17:33 caroline #info for hackfest screenshot update extravaganza, update screenshots in git, commit for each image or a group of images, DO NOT change images.rst in git, there will be a frama for that purpose 17:31 caroline I'll probably do some the day before since y'all are gonna start in the middle of the night for me 17:31 davidnind we may need to turn off the automated manual build, or run it each hour 17:29 aude_c that would be good 17:29 caroline Maybe I could create a frama for assigning chapters too? so we don't step all over each other? 17:29 caroline Ok so recap, we'll copy images.rst into a frama, change the aliases (? do we change the aliases?) and alt text in there, and sub the old image for the new ones, you can commit for each image or a group of images, and I'll commit the images.rst at the end 17:27 caroline but if you don't change the filename, you just sub it in the same directory and it's fine 17:27 caroline exactly! 17:27 aude_c thanks 17:27 aude_c and then it's safe to delete the file 17:26 caroline I also check if images/patrons/patronfile.png is there more than once in images.rst with different aliases just in case 17:26 aude_c ok 17:25 caroline if you change lets say "image666" to "patronfile", then yes you need to change image666 in every file if it's used mor than once 17:25 caroline aude_c, only if you change the alias 17:25 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29716 enhancement, P4, ---, david, ASSIGNED , [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework 17:25 davidnind bug 29716 17:25 caroline Hopefully, we'll phase those out 17:24 aude_c so to be thorough before deleting an old image, I'd need to search for its alias in every page 17:24 caroline But like I said, at the beginning I think they were a bit zealous with aliases and used a different one for every place the same image was used 17:24 caroline aude_c, yes, I use the same alias everywhere 17:23 aude_c but you still use the same alias for that image? 17:23 caroline I try to reuse some when it just shows like a row of buttons, I use the same image in all the places where those buttons are refered 17:23 marie-luce I've found an old wiki page the other day about ideas on how to automated screenshot. https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_Automated_Screencapture 17:23 aude_c caroline, cait: maybe I'm just not understanding how it's supposed to work. 17:22 ashimema I think when i last looked 99%+ of our images are unique.. we hardly ever share 17:22 cait but replace as we go and maybe if we do the framapad we could also mark the ones done or the ones people are working on there 17:22 caroline I have seen some instances where one image has different aliases, which I don't understand at all, but I think it should still work 17:22 cait i tihnk we'd not start with an empty images directory 17:22 * ashimema too 17:22 davidnind ashimema: I'm using VS Codium (basically VS Code without the Microsoft Tracking) 17:21 cait if they are used in several locations, should they not be replaced in all of them? 17:21 caroline if they are used in many places, when we update, they should be updated everywhere 17:21 ashimema it allows live editing of the same file by multiple participants in an editing session.. that might work for a hackfest scenario 17:21 aude_c while we're talking about screenshots; what do we do about the old screenshots? Can we delete the files? How do we make sure they're not used in several locations (and therefore shouldn't yet be deleted)? 17:21 ashimema we've recently been using LiveShare in VSCode at PTFS-E... 17:20 ashimema what editors are people using/encouraging? 17:20 davidnind for automated screenshots it would be a big task, particularly setting up the content required - I've mastered some basic scenarios, but am a little out of my depth with cypress.io 17:19 davidnind +1 17:19 aude_c yes, i like that 17:19 caroline I like it... I'm going to add it to my notes 17:19 cait +1 17:19 caroline We could copy the images.rst file into frama and edit it as a group and then copy the result back in images.rst and commit that 17:18 caroline davidnind, I like the framapad idea 17:18 aude_c not if we just have the whole page? 17:18 caroline that is going to be another big task davidnind right? we have to manually create the situations (like click here, enter X, click there, etc)? 17:18 aude_c yes, i was also thinking we'd need something shared 17:18 cait that sounds like a good idea 17:17 davidnind Maybe for the alt text have a shared doc, using googe docs or framapad, then it can be done as one commit after 17:17 davidnind Just need to add some instructions 17:17 caroline aude_c, yeah, I think it's a shame too, but I'm just anticipating the amount of clashes it would create and I'm not super good with git rebases 17:16 davidnind sorry, I haven't done much work recently on automating screenshots - maybe at the hackfest we could get some traction - I have started https://codeberg.org/davidnind/koha-automated-screenshots 17:16 cait sadly no idea on how to do this myself, but it would be so nice to have 17:16 cait I can try 17:16 caroline cait, I did ask if someone would help us automate images at the hackfest, but didn't hear back from anyone... if you can lobby about it while there, it would be great :) 17:15 aude_c but if there's no other way it can just be a job for another time! 17:15 aude_c I was going to say: it does sound like a bit of a shame we're missing out on adding alt text at the same time 17:15 caroline Is that ok with everyone? I really like adding alt text when updating images, but I don't hink in this case it's feasible 17:14 marie-luce make sense 17:14 aude_c got it, thanks 17:14 cait I think that's what caroline is suggesting, replace the images, don't change file names/references 17:14 caroline aude_c, yes exactly 17:14 ashimema so in this case just changing the images themselves would work and not require rebasing 17:14 caroline marie-luce, not really because the changes to the images.rst file are mostly to add alt text 17:14 ashimema correct cait 17:14 aude_c caroline: does that mean we have to upload the new images with the same file name the old ones have, so we don't have to update the images.rst file?? 17:13 cait you don't need to chang eit if you just replace the image file with the ame name 17:13 caroline ashimema, me either... 17:13 ashimema I don't understand how they got mixed up honestly. 17:13 marie-luce Is there a way to generate a new images.rst file after all images modifications? 17:13 ashimema it seems rather maddening to do it that way 17:13 caroline ashimema, I'm now a bit colder to the idea since the images between bundles and erm were mixed up 17:13 cait ... can 17:12 cait but not sure we can't this time 17:12 cait i think we shoudl automate this 17:12 * ashimema still thinks medium term we should move away from images.rst 17:12 caroline So when we make parallel changes to a same file, there can be clashes between the changes, that's why I was proposing we only update the actual images and not the images.rst file 17:12 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 17:12 ashimema excellent 17:11 aude_c :) 17:11 marie-luce nice 17:11 cait could be a nice group 17:11 cait I think there are some more people interested to help out in Marseille 17:11 davidnind that sounds great! 17:11 aude_c nice 17:10 caroline jzairo and kellym also said they'd participate virtually 17:10 aude_c I'm not sure I understand what you mean, sorry 17:10 aude_c I'll be in Marseille in person; Lucy is planning to join in virtually 17:10 caroline what do you think? 17:10 caroline The details I'm still thinking about are how to actually do it... I think we should just update the actual images, not the information in the images.rst file, otherwise, I will spend all day just rebasing everything 17:09 caroline #info on Wednesday March 29, whatever time you are in, we're going to "get together" in person and virtually to update the screenshots in the manual with the new design 17:09 cait someone eager to do screenshots, I like :) 17:08 aude_c ...to hash out a bit more now or later? :D 17:08 davidnind caroline++ 17:08 caroline caroline to plan a screenshot replacing session for hackfest -> done, details to hash out 17:07 caroline no prob! 17:07 davidnind still working on my action points, apologies for not getting them done 17:07 caroline davidnind to check the scripts and translations tweaks in prevision of a possible switch to markdown 17:06 caroline I also emailed him for the form thing, but didn't hear back either 17:06 caroline Big thanks to everyone who helped :) 17:06 cait i emailed bgkriegel for po files, haven't heard back yet 17:06 caroline https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/index.html 17:05 caroline and latest I think goes to 22.11 17:05 caroline https://koha-community.org/manual/22.11/en/html/index.html 17:05 caroline https://koha-community.org/manual/23.05/en/html/index.html 17:05 caroline we now have a 22.11 and 23.05 (dev) manual 17:04 caroline caroline to branch the manual -> done! 17:04 caroline #topic Review of action points 17:03 marie-luce #info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inlibro, Montreal, Canada 17:03 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 17:03 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK 17:02 aude_c #info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK 17:02 davidnind #info David Nind, New Zealand 17:02 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Montreal, Qc 17:02 caroline please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes 17:02 caroline #topic Introductions 17:02 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_16_February_2023 17:02 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_16_february_2023' 17:02 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:02 huginn Meeting started Thu Feb 16 17:02:10 2023 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:02 caroline #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 16 February 2023 17:01 davidnind Me too 17:01 ashimema I might stick around a little longer then 17:01 ashimema ooh.. tere's a meeting 17:01 cait I am :) 17:01 cait hi aude_c and caroline 17:01 caroline ready for the meeting? 17:01 oleonard Hi aude_c 17:01 aude_c hello 16:56 ashimema yeah.. be great to do that 16:56 ashimema coolios.. I thought that was probably the case 16:56 oleonard More things to move into our build process 16:55 oleonard ashimema that warning isn't relevant, because we have our own copy of jQuery and Popper js 16:53 ashimema thanks 16:53 cait1 time to go :) bbl! 16:53 cait1 MichaelaSieberBIB++ 16:52 cait1 oh no 16:52 Joubu ashimema: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-sandboxes-docker/-/merge_requests/69 16:52 huginn kidclamp: Highest karma: "Joubu" (1167), "cait" (977), and "ashimema" (800). Lowest karma: "-" (-78), "failed" (-53), and "ie" (-40). You (kidclamp) are ranked 6 out of 1228. 16:52 kidclamp @karma 16:52 kidclamp Joubu++ 16:52 cait1 MichaelaSiberBIB++ 16:51 ashimema what was the change Joubu? 16:51 huginn cait1: Karma for "Joubu" has been increased 1168 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 1166. 16:51 cait1 @karma Joubu 16:51 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] whoop whoop, THANKS 16:51 cait1 Joubu++ 16:51 cait1 looks good, thx Joubu! 16:50 Joubu cait1, MichaelaSieberBIB[m] ^ 16:50 Joubu looks good now - https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/git_log/xx32705 16:50 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, I saw them but when poking around staff and opac everything seemed fine. 16:49 cait1 brb 16:49 cait1 Ill be around a little longer, but need to switch computers 16:49 ashimema wondering if they might have side effects 16:49 ashimema `warning " > bootstrap@4.6.2" has unmet peer dependency "popper.js@^1.16.1".` 16:48 ashimema and 16:48 ashimema `warning " > bootstrap@4.6.2" has unmet peer dependency "jquery@1.9.1 - 3".` 16:48 ashimema I see 16:48 ashimema when running a yarn install with the dart-sass patch.. did you see warnings? 16:48 paulderscheid[m] Yes 16:48 ashimema or paulderscheid 16:48 ashimema oleonard still around.. 16:45 Joubu ha, deleted! 16:45 Joubu and the one I deleted is stucked in "pending deletion" 16:45 Joubu but we reached the max number of sandboxes 16:45 Joubu I think it's working now 16:45 Joubu ha, that might be it 16:44 cait1 did you scroll maybe? there is an HTML numeric on the bug number field and it can behave a little strangely 16:43 cait1 can I do something to help? 16:43 cait1 oook... that sounds like a deeper issue 16:41 Joubu It is now saying I've tried to apply 32695. I am a bit tired but pretty sure I did not enter random numbers in the input this time! 16:37 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] ๐ 16:36 Joubu https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/provision_log/t32705 on its way, back in 2min! 16:36 Joubu I... just forgot to add the bugnumber in the correct input! 16:35 ashimema that removes a whole bunch of dependencies listed in the yarn file 16:35 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] and the relevant columns in aqorders are missing: https://staff-x32705.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/cgi-bin/koha/reports/guided_reports.pl?reports=1&phase=Run%20this%20report 16:35 ashimema wow.. 16:34 cait1 Joubu: not applied in git log 16:32 ashimema ๐ 16:32 cait1 usually people always complaim about how slow things are, but I think we just lose the outside view 16:31 paulderscheid[m] oleonard++ 16:31 cait1 paulderscheid[m]++ :) 16:31 Joubu cait1, MichaelaSieberBIB[m]: fixed, see https://staff-x32705.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ 16:30 paulderscheid[m] I'm amazed how many cool improvements came down the pipe in such a short amount of time :D 16:30 ashimema acting as the koha user 16:29 ashimema I reckon with all the recent ktd changes around permissions and the git repo and stuff.. we should probably be execturing our sandbox commands a little differently. 16:21 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32978 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , 'npm install' fails in ktd on aarch64, giving unsupported architecture error for node-sass 16:21 paulderscheid[m] node-sass is no more. bug 32978 is ready to be QAd. 16:21 Joubu awesome 16:21 Joubu ha, we remove the git config for root... 16:20 ashimema not seen that one 16:20 ashimema nope 16:20 cait1 udn was like 3 days ago 16:20 Joubu ashimema: did you already see "NameError: global name 'host' is not defined" in the sandbox? 16:20 ashimema not sure why.. they should have pulled in the change 16:20 cait1 the bug tcohen asked me to comment on mentioend git-bz 16:19 ashimema the ptfs-e sandboxes don't have your git trusted dir change yet though.. I'm just checking that out now 16:19 cait1 hm we did 16:19 ashimema I don't believe so 16:19 Joubu or the config in general? 16:19 ashimema hmm 16:19 Joubu tcohen, ashimema: did we change something in ktd that would be related to the git-bz config? 16:15 cait1 sorry, i had "tab confusion" but I think i tried it there, will not click anything while you have a look 16:15 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] Joubu: exactly 16:14 kidclamp will try 16:14 cait1 kidclamp: maybe remind me tomorrow 16:14 cait1 but that was also created today 16:14 cait1 hm i tried on the b32705 16:13 huginn 04Bug 32878: minor, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Signed Off , Make it impossible to renew the item if it has active item level hold 16:13 kidclamp Can another QA person take a look here: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32878 16:12 Joubu there is another error there.. 16:12 Joubu https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/provision_log/invcurrency - that one? 16:11 cait1 MichaelaSieberBIB[m]: just tried all 3 :) 16:11 cait1 I then tried 'apply patch' and picked the error from there 16:11 MichaelaSieberBIB[m] yes 16:11 Joubu newly created sandbox? 16:11 cait1 when you start the sandbox with the bug, it just doesn't get applied 16:11 cait1 biblibre is hte one i picked the error from 16:11 cait1 bywater is still dead 16:11 wahanui all is set 16:11 cait1 all? 16:11 Joubu cait1: which ones? 16:10 cait1 I am not sure if I shoudl file that on ktd or sandboxes? 16:08 cait1 fatal: detected dubious ownership in repository at '/kohadevbox/koha' < on the sandboxes 16:08 ashimema blimey 16:07 cait1 we got a sandbox issue with patches not getting applied, anyone an idea? 16:07 oleonard The dashboard is ready to nuke us with needs-signoff bugs: https://snipboard.io/FN2G7a.jpg 16:07 MarkHofstetter1 we are experiencing this from 21.05 to 22.11 on ES but not 100% reproducible 16:06 paulderscheid[m] Thanks so much! 16:06 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 16:06 oleonard Excellent! 16:06 paulderscheid[m] oleonard: This patch works like a charm. Signing off. 16:05 cait1 Joubu: around? 15:49 paulderscheid[m] oleonard: Just saw it. Engaging.. 15:46 cait1 they don't get indexed at all? not searchable in OPAC and staff interface? 15:45 cait1 MarkHofstetter I haven't seen or heard of that behaviour, but we don't use Elasticsearch still 15:09 PedroAmorim[m] just brainstorming 15:09 PedroAmorim[m] containers are designed to be isolated so are we maybe fighting something we shouldn't? I wonder if making our own custom cypress image that accepts HTTP requests and runs the command upon receiving a given request would work 15:08 PedroAmorim[m] all I'm seeing in regards of executing a command on a container from another container is netwrok HTTP request (standard way) or by mounting the docker socket into the launching container (not so standard or even recommendable way) 15:02 tcohen we'll see :-D 14:57 PedroAmorim[m] would be easier if the cypress test runner exposed an api that the koha container make use of but don't think that is the case 14:57 PedroAmorim[m] I see, have not done anything of the sort before unfortunately 14:51 tcohen that makes the external connection 14:51 tcohen for selenium what we do is using a Perl driver 14:51 tcohen but we want to trigger them from within the koha container 14:51 tcohen we can run a command and have the tests run 14:50 tcohen I'm trying to find a way to trigger the tests on the cypress container, from the koha-testing one 14:50 PedroAmorim[m] but it sure looks like it's worth a whole read 14:50 PedroAmorim[m] it's also in the article, I've just been reading it in pieces instead of whole xD 14:50 tcohen that makes things even easier 14:50 tcohen oh 14:49 PedroAmorim[m] don't even need the baseUrl correctly set before hand, it seems we can just run the docker container with the "--config baseUrl" flag 14:33 tcohen we could just run the container with a oneliner 14:32 tcohen if you have the baseurl correctly set in cypress.json 14:32 tcohen so 14:22 PedroAmorim[m] I see it yeah pretty cool 14:21 tcohen (the command to extract the actual IP is for macOS) 14:20 tcohen it is explained in the article you passed 14:19 PedroAmorim[m] tcohen: did not know that thanks! 14:15 MarkHofstetter1 hi, sometimes we run into the issue that only records with items are indexed (ES) - is this a known problem, or our fault? Thx! 14:14 tcohen PedroAmorim[m]: you can launch the browser from the docker container using the X protocol ;-) 14:01 tcohen exactly, we just need to 'mount' the cypress.json 14:01 PedroAmorim[m] tcohen: yes that sounds great 14:01 PedroAmorim[m] https://www.cypress.io/blog/2019/05/02/run-cypress-with-a-single-docker-command/ seems to be a good resource and just the integration folder with the actual tests and cypress.json file seems to be enough 14:00 tcohen the ktd base image doesn't need to ship cypress 14:00 tcohen and a command to run things on the separate container 13:59 tcohen ktd --cypress up 13:59 tcohen so 13:59 tcohen will give it a try 13:59 tcohen and just run things on a separate container 13:59 tcohen we need a way to generate something that has the right baseurl 13:59 tcohen or useless 13:59 tcohen I think the cypress.json file we have is wrong 13:58 tcohen but we are thinking of running things in the CI infrastructure 13:58 PedroAmorim[m] to answer your question, I don't see why not although I have not run a cypress container before 13:57 tcohen ok 13:57 PedroAmorim[m] I run them outside of docker so that cypress can open chrome and run on it (and be able to see the UI testing as it's happening) 13:56 PedroAmorim[m] you mean have a separate docker container to run the cypress tests on? 13:55 tcohen could be mounted an run on a cypress container? 13:55 wahanui the tests are in the t/ directories 13:55 tcohen and the tests 13:55 tcohen the cypress.json file 13:55 tcohen and I've got a question 13:55 tcohen and saw a comment from you on the same path 13:55 tcohen got a message from Joubu saying he run them as root 13:54 tcohen I didn't manage (ever) to make the Cypress tests pass 13:54 PedroAmorim[m] yes 13:54 tcohen around? 13:54 tcohen PedroAmorim[m]: 13:54 ashimema they bug me 13:54 ashimema glad you approve of ditching those 13:53 ashimema ๐ 13:53 oleonard I'm certainly open to suggestions, I don't have a particular plan. I do think we should ditch the text-link cancel in modals. 13:53 ashimema be so nice to have a proper style guide 13:53 ashimema really must get https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha-styleguide-draft worked on some time 13:53 ashimema okies 13:53 ashimema I see 13:52 oleonard No ashimema that's still on my list too 13:52 ashimema and what order.. primary on left of further right 13:52 ashimema or two buttons 13:52 ashimema i.e is it 'btn-primary' then 'link' for cancel ? 13:52 ashimema did we settle on a look for buttons in modals? 13:26 cait1 oleonard++ 13:26 cait1 :) 13:12 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32978 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , 'npm install' fails in ktd on aarch64, giving unsupported architecture error for node-sass 13:12 oleonard paulderscheid[m]: I attached a patch to Bug 32978. I hope you can give your feedback 12:35 marcelr o/ 11:55 cait stared at the wrong form forever of course.. and wondered why the patch hadn't fixed it 11:55 cait :) 11:44 oleonard Cool, thanks! 11:44 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32946 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , 'Send list/cart' forms in OPAC is misaligned 11:44 cait oleonard: I was working on bug 32946 last night - I did a follow up fixing the other form and hope you approve 11:43 cait hm I am not getting this wave thing right 11:43 cait ?o 11:31 oleonard o/ 11:14 tcohen hola #koha o/ 09:44 ashimema awesome 09:44 ashimema totally 09:44 paulderscheid[m] Just sad that we can't just teleport the whole community to Marseille :D 09:43 paulderscheid[m] I'm also really looking forward to this. Will be a blast. 09:43 paulderscheid[m] Yes 09:42 ashimema my whole team are coming and I'm sure they'd love to meet you in person ๐ 09:42 ashimema are oyu hackfesting this year? 09:41 paulderscheid[m] Alright, noted ๐ 09:41 ashimema or matt of course.. he'll be good for testing that in the mac capacity 09:40 ashimema hit me up for testing if you do get a chance to play ๐ 09:40 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 09:40 ashimema excellent 09:40 ashimema yeah... that was my feeling in the brief skim I did of a docs a couple of months back 09:40 paulderscheid[m] Most certainly not today, but maybe next week for a first patch. 09:40 paulderscheid[m] Yes, I think it sounds harder than it is. 09:40 ashimema not sure he's noticed yet 09:40 ashimema haha, indeed 09:39 ashimema do you think you might be able to work on it? 09:39 ashimema i've been meaning to report that bug for a while.. but with the hole build stuff all being a bit up in the air I'd been holding off 09:39 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, I bet your new colleagues are also struggling with their shiny new apple toys :D 09:38 ashimema I've been hankering to get that done for a while 09:38 ashimema excellent paulderscheid 09:37 paulderscheid[m] \o/ 09:37 cait1 paulderscheid[m]: sounds about right and we can still change it 09:08 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32978 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'npm install' fails in ktd on aarch64, giving unsupported architecture error for node-sass 09:08 paulderscheid[m] It has been filed. bug 32978 09:02 paulderscheid[m] Should we add a category for dependency problems? 09:02 paulderscheid[m] In what category should I put this cait1? I think Architecture, internals and plumbing makes the most sense 08:57 paulderscheid[m] * ```... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/QQjKLVjtIQMEMxsLvlePCHpR>) 08:57 * paulderscheid[m] sent a code block: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/sukgeFpFqbMlQlCPYYxdxYup 08:55 paulderscheid[m] Nah, didn't get to it yet. 08:53 cait1 paulderscheid[m]: is there a bug yet? 08:51 paulderscheid[m] My main reason is that node-sass has native bindings that break on aarch64. But it's also been deprecated for a couple of years, like oleonard already said. mtj 08:43 magnuse_ anyone got a password manager they can recommend? suitable for a small company? 08:27 ashimema morning #koha 08:06 alex_ Bonjour 07:57 cait1 new strings haven't dropped yet - waiting for the mess I created with my clean-up patches :) 07:29 reiveune hello 00:22 mtj aah makes sense 00:20 oleonard-away I don't know if paulderscheid[m] has other reasons 00:20 oleonard-away https://dev.to/ccreusat/migrating-from-node-sass-to-sass-dart-sass-with-npm-3g3c 00:20 oleonard-away Above all, no functionality added since 2018 and a lack of support for new CSS features like calc()." 00:20 oleonard-away mtj: "For 2 years now, LibSass and node-sass has been deprecated. A lot of reasons led the core team to this decision. 00:13 mtj paulderscheid[m]: curious, whats the problem with node-sass? should we switch to something else? 00:05 tcohen show