Time  Nick                 Message
15:57 ashimema             hopefully stuff is working for her
15:56 caroline             ok I think marie-luce is testing some patches
15:56 * ashimema           only asks as I saw mlinlinbro had been created
15:56 caroline             made me panic for a moment
15:56 wahanui              caroline: I forgot caroline
15:56 caroline             wahanui, forget caroline
15:55 ashimema             some things are broken
15:55 ashimema             if your using the ptfs-e sandboxes.. beware I'm still in the middle of fixing them
15:55 wahanui              i think caroline is there supposed to be a documentation meeting now?
15:55 ashimema             caroline
15:52 jabiertxof           Thanks Joubu for the support!
15:41 jabiertxof           i add a comment also so hope new replies came to my inbox
15:40 huginn               Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:40 Joubu                @later tell liliputech Do you know why is Koha_21.11_D11 disabled on jenkins?
15:39 Joubu                you will automatically get notifications when something happens there
15:38 jabiertxof           how I suscrive to get feedback on advances?
15:38 huginn               04Bug 30627: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-run-backups delete the backup files after finished its job without caring days option
15:38 jabiertxof           Joubo there is one existing https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30627
15:31 jabiertxof           thanks I go on
15:31 Joubu                jabiertxof: if you think you found a bug can you report it on our bug tracker with as much info as you can please?
15:31 jabiertxof           the problem is even I do not use --days and touch this file to harcode initial var days to 7 always keep 2 days
15:29 Joubu                lukeg: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues/337 - this should fix authentication_2fa.t for 22.05
15:29 jabiertxof           Joubu
15:29 Joubu                lukeg: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues/337 th
15:29 jabiertxof           but this dont remove old files larger than FX 7 dais
15:21 Joubu                jabiertxof: I've used this modified script to test https://paste.koha-community.org/193
15:17 jabiertxof           sorry Mmy pc Dies
15:12 Joubu                mtj: Master_D12 is failing because HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench is not installed - https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D12/lastCompletedBuild/consoleFull
15:03 oleonard             Joubu++
15:03 Joubu                oleonard: indeed, I am emailing rangi[m] with the patch
15:01 Joubu                oleonard: SO should be yellow and Pushed to master should be green
14:58 Joubu                jabiertxof: https://paste.koha-community.org/193
14:58 NikolayGospodinov[m] And where is the author's mark placed if the book has no author?
14:58 Joubu                jabiertxof: you... quit too fast
14:58 oleonard             The fact that Bugzilla's dependency graph uses the same color for "pushed to master" and "signed off" ... Surely there are more colors.
14:57 Joubu                and also commented the koha-dump line
14:57 Joubu                I edited /usr/sbin/koha-run-backups and replace the do loop by  echo $backupdir/$name-$date
14:56 Joubu                jabiertxof: this is how I tested it: https://paste.koha-community.org/192
14:55 caroline             and https://loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/
14:54 caroline             for cataloging check also https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/cataloging.html#bibliographic-record-cataloging-cheat-sheet
14:54 jabiertxof           100
14:54 NikolayGospodinov[m] Marc21
14:53 caroline             NikolayGospodinov[m], which MARC flavour are you using? In MARC21, it's 100, and I think in UNIMARC it's 200 but i'm not 100% sure
14:53 jabiertxof           it is into authoritiies also
14:52 jabiertxof           Joubu thanks
14:52 NikolayGospodinov[m] Can i ask in wich tag the Author's mark is put
14:52 jabiertxof           more than 2 days?
14:48 Joubu                jabiertxof: just tried and it looks ok for me
14:40 Joubu                if you run yarn install under root, you need to yarn add under root
14:40 Joubu                but it won't fix the perm issue
14:39 Joubu                oleonard: yarn add
14:38 oleonard             How should I go about installing a new node module now? the "npm install" command says I don't have permission
14:38 jabiertxof           hi sorry for the double question, anyone has in latest koha on debian use koha-run-backups with more than 2 days? it always delete all except 2 days. Thanks in advance
14:36 oleonard             Joubu: I did say that about missing compiled CSS changes, yes.
14:33 Joubu                something else for the pre-push hook
14:32 ashimema             of course.. at release time I totally forgot that.. so the top two commits on our branch right now are a resync
14:30 ashimema             It was suggested we build once at release time, instead of updating with every scss change
14:30 ashimema             22.11.x was..
14:28 Joubu                that*
14:28 Joubu                than*
14:28 Joubu                Didn't you... tell tcohen then it was missing compiled CSS changes? Like a couple of days ago?... memory... :-/
14:27 Joubu                but I thought it was running behind
14:27 Joubu                yes, yes!
14:26 oleonard             Wait... Running 'yarn build' in master shouldn't result in any changes to staff-global.css!
14:22 Joubu                oleonard: I've updated the remote branch and restore cssnano
14:20 Joubu                I don't think so
14:19 oleonard             Does git do some kind of caching of gitignore?
14:19 Joubu                you are correct, I didn't test correctly
14:18 Joubu                ok!
14:18 oleonard             Confirmed
14:18 Joubu                can you confirm that?
14:18 Joubu                if I am on master and run yarn build && git status, I don't see changes
14:18 Joubu                I was also assuming that master was not up-to-date
14:17 Joubu                my assumption is incorrect then
14:17 Joubu                oleonard: hum indeed...
14:16 oleonard             Joubu: Please understand I'm not disagreeing with your patch, I'm just confused about the cssnano problem
14:15 oleonard             Joubu: I removed /kohadevbox/koha/node_modules and removed staff-global.css. I ran "yarn build" and staff-global.css was generated.
14:15 caroline             NikolayGospodinov[m], you should try on the Koha mailing list, I think you'd have more chance of having an answer there
14:13 Joubu                *If* my assumption is correct
14:13 Joubu                if you remove node_modues then yarn build, you should not see something. If you yarn install then build, you should not see something.
14:13 oleonard             I see
14:12 Joubu                if you don't have it, then 'yarn' commands will use /kohadevbox/node_modules, embeded in ktd
14:12 Joubu                oleonard: if you have /kohadevbox/koha/node_modules (generated using yarn install) then you have something that can differ from me (versions of the modules)
14:11 Joubu                I just run `yarn install` and same, build is not generating anything
14:11 Joubu                did you yarn install recently?
14:11 oleonard             Why the question about having something in node_modules?
14:10 oleonard             Not me! :D
14:10 Joubu                Or somebody else... memory...
14:10 Joubu                Did I dream that you told me one of the two options was not working? like last week?
14:08 oleonard             I do
14:07 Joubu                mine is empty, and I am using the one from ktd
14:07 Joubu                do you have something in node_modules?
14:06 oleonard             Both work for me in master
14:05 Joubu                `git reset --hard HEAD` then now I remove the 3 lines related to cssnano, `yarn build` => there are changes
14:04 Joubu                on master
14:04 Joubu                oleonard: in ktd: `yarn build` => git status does not show anything. `yarn css' => There are changes
14:00 oleonard             Joubu: the cssnano step works fine for me. Not sure what to make of that.
13:57 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello. I am writing from Bulgaria. We are currently working on standardizing the templates for creating bibliographic records in MARC 21. I would like to ask someone who works in a library if they can be contacted and share with us their methodology of creating bibliographic records.
13:55 ashimema             agreed
13:55 Joubu                but after we push that first step please :)
13:55 ashimema             indeed
13:55 Joubu                the whole gulp file needs adjustements
13:54 ashimema             I remember that lib giving me all sorts of issues trying to install other node modules
13:53 ashimema             dart-sass is recommended as the alternative..
13:53 ashimema             it's been basically deprecated since nov 2018 apparently.
13:52 ashimema             if you're doing that is it worthwhile looking at updateing from none-sass or whatever
13:52 Joubu                no idea since when it's broken
13:51 Joubu                yes please
13:51 Joubu                I just needed it to work
13:51 Joubu                we can reintroduce cssnano or similar, but that was not the point of the patch
13:51 oleonard             I think the minification step is important. Should I look for an alternative tool?
13:50 Joubu                the maps
13:50 oleonard             What's the difference between "yarn css:build" and "yarn css:build:prod" without the minification step?
13:49 Joubu                that's why 'yarn build' didn't generate the compiled css
13:49 Joubu                it was breaking the command, nothing was generated
13:48 oleonard             I'm curious about the removal of cssnano. What problem was it causing?
13:47 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32609 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Remove compiled files from src
13:47 oleonard             I'm looking at Bug 32609
13:47 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32614 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Highlight important comments
13:47 Joubu                bug 32614
13:47 Joubu                oleonard: yes
13:40 oleonard             Joubu around?
12:54 magnuse__            \o/
12:54 * khall_             waves
12:54 magnuse__            kia ora khall_
12:53 ashimema             fair enough
12:53 paulderscheid[m]     Ah, that'd be a non-starter for me. Function row is too uncomfortable to reach on my keys.
12:52 ashimema             for byobu it's function keys to open new 'tab's and splits..
12:52 ashimema             it's amazing how hard it is to switch one's mind set once you've used a set of keys
12:51 paulderscheid[m]     But hjkl is maybe the saner approach.
12:51 paulderscheid[m]     Yeah, for tmux I have L U D R for left, up, down, right so I can remember them ^^
12:50 ashimema             those are nice looking at them
12:50 paulderscheid[m]     Thankfully vim keybindings are becoming the standard in most dev tools.
12:49 ashimema             it knows the byobu keybindings
12:49 ashimema             my problem is my muscle memory
12:48 paulderscheid[m]     If you're looking for a bit better keybindings than the default for tmux, check this out ashimema: https://github.com/LMSCloudPaulD/dotfiles/blob/main/tmux/.tmux.conf
12:46 paulderscheid[m]     Cool.
12:46 ashimema             add issues in gitlab
12:46 ashimema             https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker
12:46 ashimema             we already have ktd --logs
12:46 paulderscheid[m]     Is ktd also developed via bugzilla?
12:45 ashimema             perhaps you could add a nice alias to ktd..
12:43 paulderscheid[m]     Yeah, me too. But it got very annoying.
12:43 * ashimema           is terrible at always using 'tail -f *'
12:42 ashimema             as does lnav..
12:42 ashimema             zellij looks interesting
12:42 * ashimema           has used byobu for years but always meant to get a bit more familiar with tmux proper
12:39 paulderscheid[m]     It's kinda already configured tmux. :D
12:37 mtj                  woo, looks great!
12:33 paulderscheid[m]     zellij
12:33 mtj                  paulderscheid[m]: nice, is that tmux, or other?
12:31 marcelr              o/
12:30 paulderscheid[m]     It just occured to me that you can also watch the directory over ssh
12:24 paulderscheid[m]     Just look at this goodness: https://snipboard.io/7JOHdI.jpg
12:22 paulderscheid[m]     You know what would be great.. If ktd included lnav so you could watch the whole log directory. Unforunately you have to compile it for aarch64 'cause they don't provide statically linked binaries for the architecture.
12:10 jabiertxof           Hi, Im in debian and make a cron to run koha-run-backups and always use 2 days even editing the script and change days base from 2 to 7 in initial variable and dont pass parameter, can the date code be wrong?
11:52 mtj                  ive probably been overthinking the problem with merging it
11:50 paulderscheid[m]     Yeah, I guess it will be a hassle
11:49 mtj                  we need to decide on a few 'layout' things, to add it...
11:47 paulderscheid[m]     Thank you for your service! mtj++
11:46 mtj                  i'll try to get something happening soon
11:45 paulderscheid[m]     :_)
11:45 paulderscheid[m]     Ok
11:44 mtj                  short version... no :/
11:43 paulderscheid[m]     Was just wondering whether the arm stuff was already merged into mainline ktd mtj
11:42 mtj                  hi paulderscheid[m], whats up?
11:40 oleonard             Hi #koha
10:19 huginn               paulderscheid[m]: mtj was last seen in #koha 9 hours, 15 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <mtj> ..ill try to finish off this jenkins secuirty-build thing today
10:19 paulderscheid[m]     @seen mtj
10:14 marcelr              the whole setup needs further thought
10:13 marcelr              otherwise you loose your queue and you will have dangling entries in the database
10:13 marcelr              well it isnt about rabbit itself it is about ktd actually; does ktd use a volume to persist the queues on restarting containers
10:07 * ashimema           now always uses db polling and doesn't even install rabbit
10:06 ashimema             All the real data is in the database
10:06 ashimema             The queue data is all available in the database anyway though if you need it.. rabbit is simply used as a Comms piece of the puzzle
10:05 ashimema             I don't know rabbit well
09:58 marcelr              they might?
09:57 ashimema             they might be.. but I don' think our worker is clever enough to process them
09:56 cait                 pass
09:41 marcelr              does anyone know if rabbit queues are persisted (on a volume) on restarting ktd containers?
09:25 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32418 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.derscheid, Needs Signoff , CRASH: Can't call method "unblessed" on an undefined value at cataloguing/additem.pl
09:25 paulderscheid[m]     Could someone look at bug 32418. It's not very complex and just needs a sign-off.
09:22 paulderscheid[m]     Morning #koha
09:17 ashimema             morning
08:30 alex_                Salut marcelr and cait
08:28 marcelr              and alex_
08:28 marcelr              hi cait
08:28 cait                 hello #koha
08:13 huginn               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32609 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Remove compiled files from src
08:13 Joubu                mtj: Did you see bug 32609? What would be best for you?
07:32 marcelr              hi reiveune
07:31 reiveune             hello
07:13 marcelr              o/
01:03 mtj                  ..ill try to finish off this jenkins secuirty-build thing today
00:48 mtj                  hi tuxayo
00:42 tuxayo               aleisha rangi[m]  Hi :) I just sent an email to Wainui about the big issues on the latest security release. Can you ping them? My previous email might have lead them to a very hard backport attempt that might not be necessary.
00:31 tuxayo               I'll email lukeg
00:30 tuxayo               caroline: "How do I identify the security bugs" they aren't in the release notes :o