Time Nick Message 21:17 tuxayo https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/no_one#English 21:17 tuxayo https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/noone#Pronoun 21:17 tuxayo Turns out both exist but not with the same acceptance, thus the confusion ^^" 21:13 cait[m] i missed oyur sentence, not sure about the spelling myself 21:12 tuxayo Ah it's spelled noone! 21:12 tuxayo is from Catalyst 21:12 tuxayo Yes wainui 21:04 cait[m] ah noone around 21:03 cait[m] wainui is from Catalyst? 21:01 tuxayo no one from Catalyst around it seems 21:00 tuxayo NZ Thu Nov 24 10:00:19 2022 NZDT 21:00 tuxayo Arthur told me that they can't commit more than an oldoldstable load. Thus the "worst case" plan of treating oldstable as oldoldstable. For Wainui turns out I don't know if they couldn't commit to oldstable with the expect load. So maybe. 20:54 cait[m] maybe they could be persuaded to move one version up? 20:54 cait[m] i guess we are in an 'in between' cycle 20:50 tuxayo So it's a 4 Rmaint cycle (when the 4th will be found ^^") but it's not related to LTS 20:50 tuxayo > this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts 20:49 tuxayo *changes 20:49 tuxayo So having oldoldoldstable itsn't related to the LTS chances. 20:48 tuxayo It's a bonus. 20:48 tuxayo ashimema: «So why are we trying to support oldoldoldstable» Because someone volunteered for. It's out of the old/current scheme and won't be in the new scheme with LTS. 20:47 cait[m] check the logs please - meeting logs are linked 20:46 tuxayo cait++ 20:46 tuxayo > i've made a nice graphic in te wiki just yesterda 20:45 tuxayo wait, wasn't 21.11 going to be the 1st lts? So still 3 RMaint for a few cycles 20:45 tuxayo > this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts 20:34 cait[m] because it would have given less time for updates 20:34 cait[m] I had a model with 3 it was argued against 20:33 ashimema Mmm 20:33 ashimema Lol 20:33 ashimema I think I argued against always doing 4.. we already struggle to get rmaints so all we've done is spread the community even thinner 20:33 cait[m] you always got to start somewhere 20:32 ashimema Would argue we should have retrospectively set 19.11 as lts as it nearly got there already anyway. Then that would have made your table work 20:31 cait[m] sorry, only half here, playing online with a friend - we can check back on that tomorrow maybe? 20:31 ashimema We dropped 19.11 last cycle didn't we 20:28 ashimema There is later 20:28 cait[m] there is a gap later 20:28 cait[m] we won't 20:28 cait[m] we could drop it - just was the idea proposed at some point to have always 4 20:28 ashimema If we're doing lts I don't believe we should do oldoldoldstable ever 20:27 ashimema So why are we trying to support oldoldoldstable 20:27 cait[m] it woudl fit the new model 20:27 cait[m] drop the ast this time 20:27 cait[m] we could probably the last 20:26 cait[m] three diagonal for normal 20:26 cait[m] we always maintain 4 20:26 cait[m] no 20:26 ashimema Not 18 20:26 ashimema It appears to make all branches last 24 months 20:26 cait[m] hmpf 20:25 ashimema Erm.. I'm confused by your diagram 20:22 cait[m] no, I mean dropping the oldes.t.. we are just starting now doing the first real lts i think 20:22 cait[m] because that was voted on, i only made the edits 20:21 ashimema Anywho . That's not a conversation for now 20:21 ashimema I'm surprised we're naming our first lts as 22.11.. why not retrospectively assign one 20:16 ashimema Lol 20:16 ashimema So are you suggesting dropping the LTS if we don't have enough rmaints. 20:16 cait[m] look for Koha versioning 20:16 cait[m] i've made a nice graphic in te wiki just yesterda 20:16 ashimema I've lost the plot on the scheme at this point 20:16 cait[m] and we got 3 20:16 cait[m] yes 20:15 ashimema I've lost track.. this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts 20:14 ashimema By the time something gets to oldstable it really ought to be pretty stable 20:14 cait[m] hm worst case we should drop the oldest I think 20:14 tuxayo not great, not terrible 20:13 tuxayo Worse case, oldstable could be treated like oldoldstable and not have much backports. 20:12 tuxayo lol 20:12 tuxayo > just have to corner the right people 20:12 cait[m] ew 20:12 ashimema Easier said than done at the moment.. I've basically been in back to back meetings for over a week now 20:11 cait[m] corner them! :) 20:11 ashimema I still have something up my sleeve, just have to corner the right people 19:01 cait[m] we still have a few days to figure it out.. even if not that many 18:58 tuxayo (Wainui, Arthur and me) 18:57 tuxayo We have 3 RMaints that can only put time on oldoldstable at best :( 18:50 tuxayo yes T_T 18:50 tuxayo > we are still short a Maint currently 18:50 cait[m] that's ok frido 18:50 fridolin sorry i really cant 18:45 cait[m] hate to say, but we are still short a Maint currently... 18:37 fridolin "tempus fugit" they say :) 18:33 tuxayo I guess. I'm catching up on 21.05.x for now. After that, no more RMaint for now and I'll be able to do QA even when it's hard to put time on Koha. for now, RMaint always came first. 18:33 tuxayo > release day is comming right ? 18:30 cait[m] yes 18:29 fridolin release day is comming right ? 18:29 tuxayo fridolin: hi :) 18:29 * fridolin has a lot of "shame" passwords 18:28 fridolin tuxayo: yellow ;) 18:22 tuxayo finally I'm forced to change one of my last shitty passwords ^^" 18:12 tuxayo iutiut 16:40 cait1 bye 16:13 reiveune bye 13:41 kidclamp ashimema++ 13:08 matts It needs a quick rebase, but it didn't get any signoff at the time. 13:08 huginn` 04Bug 18273: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Patch doesn't apply , Bulkmarcimport inserts authority duplicates 13:08 matts https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18273 13:08 matts Speaking of bulkmarcimport, I think this is a major bug: Bug 18273 - Bulkmarcimport inserts authority duplicates 12:21 ashimema 🙂 12:09 cait1 and ashimema is right, we usually use stage/commit - but we use bulkmarcimprot for migrations - and I think others do too, so any bad bugs need to be killed 12:08 cait1 it is sometimes slow yes 11:59 magnuse ashimema: yeah, i thought the web interface was kind of slow the other day 11:11 ashimema anyone else noticed that? 11:10 ashimema the git server feels a bit slow to me recently.. pulls take ages.. 11:03 ashimema okies.. enjoy your day then 🙂 10:57 Joubu ashimema: nope, I am off today 10:47 * ashimema was about to take a look and didn't want to clash 10:47 ashimema Are you working on the Koha/Biblio.t test Joubu? 10:26 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30233 is not accessible. 10:26 ashimema [off] QA team should take a look at bug 30233.. I had missed the updated patch there.. just signed off. 10:11 ashimema cait around? 10:01 magnuse ashimema++ 10:00 * ashimema fits in a few QA's whilst the new devs are shadowing a sales demo 10:00 ashimema on it Joubu 09:57 ashimema we use it here for our migrations.. but I've not heard of that issue 09:57 magnuse ah, ok 09:57 ashimema magnuse ^ 09:57 ashimema she uses stage + commit scripts 09:56 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32332 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl -insert fails to add MARC field 999 09:56 magnuse cait1: do you use bulkmarcimport.pl to import records from your union catalogue? have you seen something like bug 32332? 09:18 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32269 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Circulation.t is failing randomly 09:18 Joubu please QA bug 32269 08:09 cait1 hello matts 08:04 matts hello ! 07:18 reiveune hello 06:02 fridolin release day is coming ... 06:02 fridolin hellow 02:47 yetyunglungTimothy[m] <cait1> "so it's normal you don't see the..." <- it's not.. 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