Time  Nick                  Message
02:47 yetyunglungTimothy[m] <cait1> "so it's normal you don't see the..." <- it's not.. Because it didn't send also after 15 minutes
06:02 fridolin              hellow
06:02 fridolin              release day is coming ...
07:18 reiveune              hello
08:04 matts                 hello !
08:09 cait1                 hello matts
09:18 Joubu                 please QA bug 32269
09:18 huginn`               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32269 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Circulation.t is failing randomly
09:56 magnuse               cait1: do you use bulkmarcimport.pl to import records from your union catalogue? have you seen something like bug 32332?
09:56 huginn`               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32332 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl -insert fails to add MARC field 999
09:57 ashimema              she uses stage + commit scripts
09:57 ashimema              magnuse ^
09:57 magnuse               ah, ok
09:57 ashimema              we use it here for our migrations.. but I've not heard of that issue
10:00 ashimema              on it Joubu
10:00 * ashimema            fits in a few QA's whilst the new devs are shadowing a sales demo
10:01 magnuse               ashimema++
10:11 ashimema              cait around?
10:26 ashimema              [off] QA team should take a look at bug 30233.. I had missed the updated patch there.. just signed off.
10:26 huginn`               04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30233 is not accessible.
10:47 ashimema              Are you working on the Koha/Biblio.t test Joubu?
10:47 * ashimema            was about to take a look and didn't want to clash
10:57 Joubu                 ashimema: nope, I am off today
11:03 ashimema              okies.. enjoy your day then 🙂
11:10 ashimema              the git server feels a bit slow to me recently.. pulls take ages..
11:11 ashimema              anyone else noticed that?
11:59 magnuse               ashimema: yeah, i thought the web interface was kind of slow the other day
12:08 cait1                 it is sometimes slow yes
12:09 cait1                 and ashimema is right, we usually use stage/commit - but we use bulkmarcimprot for migrations - and I think others do too, so any bad bugs need to be killed
12:21 ashimema              🙂
13:08 matts                 Speaking of bulkmarcimport, I think this is a major bug: Bug 18273 - Bulkmarcimport inserts authority duplicates
13:08 matts                 https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18273
13:08 huginn`               04Bug 18273: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Patch doesn't apply , Bulkmarcimport inserts authority duplicates
13:08 matts                 It needs a quick rebase, but it didn't get any signoff at the time.
13:41 kidclamp              ashimema++
16:13 reiveune              bye
16:40 cait1                 bye
18:12 tuxayo                iutiut
18:22 tuxayo                finally I'm forced to change one of my last shitty passwords ^^"
18:28 fridolin              tuxayo: yellow ;)
18:29 * fridolin            has a lot of "shame" passwords
18:29 tuxayo                fridolin: hi :)
18:29 fridolin              release day is comming right ?
18:30 cait[m]               yes
18:33 tuxayo                > release day is comming right ?
18:33 tuxayo                I guess. I'm catching up on 21.05.x for now. After that, no more RMaint for now and I'll be able to do QA even when it's hard to put time on Koha. for now, RMaint always came first.
18:37 fridolin              "tempus fugit" they say :)
18:45 cait[m]               hate to say, but we are still short a Maint currently...
18:50 fridolin              sorry i really cant
18:50 cait[m]               that's ok frido
18:50 tuxayo                > we are still short a Maint currently
18:50 tuxayo                yes T_T
18:57 tuxayo                We have 3 RMaints that can only put time on oldoldstable at best :(
18:58 tuxayo                (Wainui, Arthur and me)
19:01 cait[m]               we still have a few days to figure it out.. even if not that many
20:11 ashimema              I still have something up my sleeve, just have to corner the right people
20:11 cait[m]               corner them! :)
20:12 ashimema              Easier said than done at the moment.. I've basically been in back to back meetings for over a week now
20:12 cait[m]               ew
20:12 tuxayo                > just have to corner the right people
20:12 tuxayo                lol
20:13 tuxayo                Worse case, oldstable could be treated like oldoldstable and not have much backports.
20:14 tuxayo                not great, not terrible
20:14 cait[m]               hm worst case we should drop the oldest I think
20:14 ashimema              By the time something gets to oldstable it really ought to be pretty stable
20:15 ashimema              I've lost track.. this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts
20:16 cait[m]               yes
20:16 cait[m]               and we got 3
20:16 ashimema              I've lost the plot on the scheme at this point
20:16 cait[m]               i've made a nice graphic in te wiki just yesterda
20:16 cait[m]               look for Koha versioning
20:16 ashimema              So are you suggesting dropping the LTS if we don't have enough rmaints.
20:16 ashimema              Lol
20:21 ashimema              I'm surprised we're naming our first lts as 22.11.. why not retrospectively assign one
20:21 ashimema              Anywho . That's not a conversation for now
20:22 cait[m]               because that was voted on, i only made the edits
20:22 cait[m]               no, I mean dropping the oldes.t.. we are just starting now doing the first real lts i think
20:25 ashimema              Erm.. I'm confused by your diagram
20:26 cait[m]               hmpf
20:26 ashimema              It appears to make all branches last 24 months
20:26 ashimema              Not 18
20:26 cait[m]               no
20:26 cait[m]               we always maintain 4
20:26 cait[m]               three diagonal for normal
20:27 cait[m]               we could probably the last
20:27 cait[m]               drop the ast this time
20:27 cait[m]               it woudl fit the new model
20:27 ashimema              So why are we trying to support oldoldoldstable
20:28 ashimema              If we're doing lts I don't believe we should do oldoldoldstable ever
20:28 cait[m]               we could drop it - just was the idea proposed at some point to have always 4
20:28 cait[m]               we won't
20:28 cait[m]               there is a gap later
20:28 ashimema              There is later
20:31 ashimema              We dropped 19.11 last cycle didn't we
20:31 cait[m]               sorry, only half here, playing online with a friend - we can check back on that tomorrow maybe?
20:32 ashimema              Would argue we should have retrospectively set 19.11 as lts as it nearly got there already anyway. Then that would have made your table work
20:33 cait[m]               you always got to start somewhere
20:33 ashimema              I think I argued against always doing 4.. we already struggle to get rmaints so all we've done is spread the community even thinner
20:33 ashimema              Lol
20:33 ashimema              Mmm
20:34 cait[m]               I had a model with 3 it was argued against
20:34 cait[m]               because it would have given less time for updates
20:45 tuxayo                > this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts
20:45 tuxayo                wait, wasn't 21.11 going to be the 1st lts? So still 3 RMaint for a few cycles
20:46 tuxayo                > i've made a nice graphic in te wiki just yesterda
20:46 tuxayo                cait++
20:47 cait[m]               check the logs please  - meeting logs are linked
20:48 tuxayo                ashimema: «So why are we trying to support oldoldoldstable» Because someone volunteered for. It's out of the old/current scheme and won't be in the new scheme with LTS.
20:48 tuxayo                It's a bonus.
20:49 tuxayo                So having oldoldoldstable itsn't related to the LTS chances.
20:49 tuxayo                *changes
20:50 tuxayo                > this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts
20:50 tuxayo                So it's a 4 Rmaint cycle (when the 4th will be found ^^") but it's not related to LTS
20:54 cait[m]               i guess we are in an 'in between' cycle
20:54 cait[m]               maybe they could be persuaded to move one version up?
21:00 tuxayo                Arthur told me that they can't commit more than an oldoldstable load. Thus the "worst case" plan of treating oldstable as oldoldstable. For Wainui turns out I don't know if they couldn't commit to oldstable with the expect load. So maybe.
21:00 tuxayo                NZ                    Thu Nov 24 10:00:19 2022 NZDT
21:01 tuxayo                no one from Catalyst around it seems
21:03 cait[m]               wainui is from Catalyst?
21:04 cait[m]               ah noone around
21:12 tuxayo                Yes wainui
21:12 tuxayo                is from Catalyst
21:12 tuxayo                Ah it's spelled noone!
21:13 cait[m]               i missed oyur sentence, not sure about the spelling myself
21:17 tuxayo                Turns out both exist but not with the same acceptance, thus the confusion ^^"
21:17 tuxayo                https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/noone#Pronoun
21:17 tuxayo                https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/no_one#English