Time Nick Message 19:49 davidnind cait++ 19:14 cait oleonard++ davidnind++ 19:12 davidnind oleonard++ 19:05 oleonard Thanks for testing 19:05 oleonard I'll get back to it tomorrow! 19:05 oleonard This is my cue to leave for the day XD 19:05 davidnind and chocolate and coffee as well... 19:04 * cait hands oleonard the cookie jar 19:04 cait heh I noticed when saving mine :) 19:03 davidnind I just added a comment about the narrow label widths and wrapping to the bug 🙂 19:00 cait but the first tab looks much better with the new patch set 19:00 cait I tihnk in the last iteration it looked better 18:59 cait the longer descriptions blow up the input fields 18:59 cait https://snipboard.io/QHUtIW.jpg 18:58 oleonard :D 18:58 cait oleonard: mildly bad news 18:02 ashimema Nice 17:41 cait i thnk i like it, it's a bit easier to spot 17:40 cait can you collapse/uncollapse those sections? 17:40 cait for the left side? 17:40 oleonard Moving the "edit search" and "search within results" controls into the sidebar on search results 17:39 tcohen oleonard: what are we looking at 17:34 oleonard i wonder if something like this would work: https://snipboard.io/pFqeSM.jpg 17:28 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:28 tcohen @later tell marcelr you might be right, propose a different approach and let's check what's best for later coding using it 17:24 tcohen :-D 17:23 davidnind that will be a great Christmas present! 17:22 tcohen just waiting, it is supposed to arrive by december 17:22 * tcohen already pre-ordered Starlink 17:21 davidnind Starlink is great! Beats the "Rural" broadband I had before by a country mile. 17:20 oleonard :| 17:20 * tcohen is waiting for Starlink 17:20 tcohen ashimema: I always switch to tethered mobile connection for ktd pull because my 6Mbps connection drives me nuts :-P 17:18 tcohen holaaa 17:06 cait oops :) 17:00 ashimema ooopsies 17:00 ashimema hmm.. tethered mobile connection is a bit rubbish for a ktd pull 16:26 cait me too 16:26 reiveune bye 16:19 oleonard I'm always learning about things I didn't know Koha did :) 16:17 cait it's ok :) trust your judgement 16:17 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32046 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , When adding a new records from a staged files, there are style issues 16:17 oleonard cait: Probably a dumb distinction, but I felt I needed to follow up on Bug 32046 rather than add the patch on a separate bug because felt it was too broken to wait. 16:06 cait oleonard: ah yep 16:04 oleonard cait: I didn't have anything specified in MarcItemFieldsToOrder. That's why I didn't see the item stuff 15:54 thd By changing the week, I think that we have also now avoided a two meetings in one day conflict with the general meeting coming 7 December. 15:52 thd Yes, the update is not quite automatic. davidnind runs a script manually from the information generated in the meeting if understand correctly. 15:50 cait maybe tuxayo can check on i tlater, wiki page has not been added yet - but as we had a meeting thi sweek, maybe it's ok to have 2 weeks, next week will be busy with release 15:49 thd cait: For reference, next meeting had been proposed for 23 Nov. 22:00 UTC. 15:43 thd I took too long to report that I was looking. 15:42 cait thd: ok, i didn't have that info - the script will take it from this one now 15:42 oleonard cait++ 15:42 oleonard tuxayo++ 15:42 lukeg Have a great day all! 15:42 huginn` Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_16_november_2022.2022-11-16-15.07.log.html 15:42 huginn` Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_16_november_2022.2022-11-16-15.07.txt 15:42 huginn` Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_16_november_2022.2022-11-16-15.07.html 15:42 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 15:42:08 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:42 cait #endmeeting 15:42 thd Checking for what we did previously for next meeting. The previous next meeting was already scheduled for a date and time next week. 15:42 cait thx all for voting! 15:41 cait #info Next meeting: 30 November 2022, 15 UTC 15:40 cait have a safe trip! 15:40 ashimema Gotta go, dashing for the train now 15:40 cait thd: yeah, we had missed the one before this 15:39 cait can someone help me out there? 2 weeks, wednesday, but what time? 15:39 thd Moved meetings are tricky? 15:39 cait #topic Set time of next meeting 15:39 cait #info Topics postponed to next meeting (after release) 15:38 cait I have a feeling we won't make much prorss on the other topics today either, are we ok with postponing? 15:38 cait let's keep this for th enext one 15:38 cait ook 15:37 cait kidclamp maybe? 15:37 cait #info Question: Can we claim ES7 support now? 15:36 cait #topic General development discussion 15:36 oleonard Too busy chasing bugs in master to work on handbook 15:36 cait Next one we can maybe resolve, but in the next topic 15:36 cait #action oleonard ashimema draft in the developer handbook how to form our modals. With template of a simple case and a case with form inside.: focus is currently on staff interface redesign changes, see the draft style guide (WIP) 15:36 cait #action tcohen to draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list 15:35 cait #action tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together - deferred until after the 22.11 release 15:35 cait For after release, but so we don't lose them: 15:35 cait davidnind to send an email to the mailing lists on roles for 23.05: DONE 15:35 cait taking over from davidnind again 15:35 cait #action cait Update wiki page for LTS 15:34 cait #topic Actions form last meeting 15:34 cait #info update on road map is postponed to next meeting 15:34 oleonard +1 to postponing roadmap 15:34 ashimema Yeah, postpone that one I reckon 15:34 ashimema Lots and lots of small quick bugs.. 15:33 ashimema QA has been fast and furious of late.. 15:33 cait I propose postponing that to next meeting, ok? 15:33 cait #topic Status of roadmap projects 15:33 ashimema I'm here 15:33 oleonard Still here! 15:33 cait someone still with me? :) 15:33 cait Nothing new here - get to the bad bugs please! 15:32 cait #topic Updates from the QA team 15:32 cait Well, lots of pushing happened, so I think we are probably good there 15:31 cait lukeg? lilliputech? 15:31 cait #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 15:31 cait ok moving on 15:31 thd A few too many people not in front of their IRC interfaces. 15:30 cait confetti! 15:30 cait after celebrations 15:30 ashimema Nah, we had a solid yes from all.. the last vote will be in the meeting logs too 15:30 cait ok, we are moving on in a moment 15:30 cait well... apply some speed to your queues! 15:30 ashimema #koha in race mode 15:30 cait was i too fast? 15:30 ashimema Hehe 15:30 ashimema Never seen one that quick 15:29 cait #agreed The release team for 23.05 is elected as stated on the wiki page today :) 15:29 thd Missed a few votes 15:29 ashimema Super quick vote, lol 15:29 * khall shakes fist 15:29 lukeg lol 15:29 ashimema Too slow lukeg 😂 15:29 khall #vote yes 15:29 ashimema Haha 15:29 lukeg #vote yes 15:29 huginn` Yes (7): cait, oleonard, ashimema, tuxayo, kidclamp, tcohen, thd 15:29 huginn` Voted on "Do you approve the current proposals for the 23.05 team?" Results are 15:29 cait #endvote 15:29 tcohen yes 15:29 ashimema If so you can 15:29 cait yep 15:29 ashimema Did he chair you 15:29 cait giving it a few more secons 15:28 cait hope I can end the vote then :) 15:28 ashimema Coolios 15:28 cait hm 15:28 tuxayo see ya 15:28 * tuxayo runs away => [ ] 15:28 tcohen #vote yes 15:28 tuxayo cait: the meeting it yours! 15:28 ashimema #vote yes 15:28 thd #vote Yes 15:27 kidclamp #vote yes 15:27 cait #vote yes 15:27 oleonard #vote yes 15:27 tuxayo #vote yes 15:27 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 15:27 huginn` Begin voting on: Do you approve the current proposals for the 23.05 team? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. 15:27 tuxayo #startvote Do you approve the current proposals for the 23.05 team? Yes, No, Abstain 15:27 tuxayo Ah yes lol 15:26 tuxayo ashimema: even if treating it like oldoldstable instead of oldstable. Not ideal but if noone have the time to commit full that's a backup plan. 15:26 cait so it recognizes the options? 15:26 cait i think you need something before Yes 15:26 oleonard =1 15:26 ashimema Yup 15:26 tuxayo *for the 15:26 tuxayo ↑something like that? 15:25 tuxayo #startvoteTEST Do you approve the current proposals for th 23.05 Team Yes, No, Abstain 15:25 ashimema I think 22.05 is too high commitment for ptfs-e right now 15:25 tcohen bbiab 15:25 tcohen ok! 15:25 tcohen ah 15:25 ashimema 22.05 is missing, he said he could do either 15:25 ashimema He did 15:25 tcohen didn't lukeg volunteer for 22.11? 15:24 * tuxayo too 15:24 ashimema Vote . Well sort the rest between us 😜 15:24 tcohen +1 on a vote 15:24 tuxayo Or ashimema you could also have a restricted backport policy to limit your commitment. 15:24 * tcohen has to leave 15:24 ashimema With my watchfull eye on top 15:24 ashimema But I could us it to sharpen my new Devs git skills ;) 15:24 cait but those should not be super evil ones 15:23 tuxayo Worst case, we might ask Arthur or Wainui to move up a release but keep the same backport policy than their current commitment. Thus much less backport to 22.05 15:23 ashimema Agreed 15:23 ashimema Yup 15:23 cait i thnk 22.11 is gonna be hit hard for a while as we are still fixing styles 15:23 * ashimema forsee lots of patches to 22.11 in the next few months.. but hopefully mostly easy ones 15:23 cait anyway, good ideas all around 15:23 cait such a talkative language 15:23 cait java ... hell. 15:23 * tcohen remembers writing assembler on a paper sheet for an exam... 15:22 ashimema At a push I might be able to sell maintaining 22.11 as a team here.. would need a conversation with the boss first 15:22 tuxayo low tech 15:22 tuxayo write patch on paper and fax them! 15:22 tcohen he's always open to continue, or step down if there's another volunteer 15:22 ashimema Haha 15:22 tuxayo thanks tcohen for reaching 15:22 oleonard composing patches in their heads I hope ashimema 15:21 cait bgkriegel++ 15:21 lukeg I signed up for 22.11 rmaint but I am amendable to maintaining any version :) 15:21 tuxayo bgkriel++ 15:21 cait one less worry :) bgkriegel 15:21 ashimema Intention here is to get the new Devs involved in community from day one . Well, tomorrow really as day one was Monday, but they've not got their computers yet 😂 15:21 tcohen Bernardo is in 15:21 tuxayo At least vote for all the rest 15:21 tuxayo Yeah 15:21 cait I suggest we have elections anyway and maybe a mail askin for those specific roles to list again? 15:20 tuxayo 22.05? Right >< 15:20 tuxayo > a hard one to maintain for the next cycle 15:20 ashimema And I have a seeking suspicion it is going to be a hard one to maintain for the next cycle with the changes in 22.11 15:20 cait mtj: around by chance? 15:20 cait oh ok, yes, that too 15:19 tuxayo Packaging Team 😱 Continuous integration infrastructure maintainer 😱 15:19 cait tcohen: do you know if Bernardo wants to continue? 15:19 ashimema I'd offer but I'm going to have my hands full getting our new Devs up to speed 15:19 cait also translation manager 15:19 thd I assume we are still waiting for the mail system to be fixed on the server where the wiki is running. 15:19 tuxayo Translation Manager 😱 15:19 ashimema Hmm, no 22.05... 15:19 cait yes, we have some roles missing i think 15:18 thd Before moving on 15:18 tuxayo old stable RMaint missing 😱 15:18 tuxayo #info https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_23.05 15:18 tcohen anyway :-D 15:18 tcohen I'll bother everyone until the release 15:18 tuxayo #topic Elections: Roles for 23.05 15:17 tcohen yup 15:17 tuxayo Moving on? 15:17 tuxayo thd++ 15:17 cait thd++ 15:17 tcohen thd++ 15:17 tcohen thd++ 15:16 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 15:16 ashimema 🙂 15:16 tcohen also, so we have a more robust way to test things on CI 15:16 tuxayo Ah cool 15:16 tcohen #info to allow offline working 15:15 tcohen #info the KTD images have been added the node_modules 15:15 tuxayo Good to know, since the images are regenerated on every push on main/master. Even if no change. 15:15 tuxayo > keep your KTD updated 15:15 ashimema [off] brrr, it's cold in Leeds waiting for the train 15:15 cait +1 :) 15:14 tcohen get involved on fixing things, please 15:14 tcohen that's it, not much time left for the releaes 15:14 tuxayo ok ðŸ‘ï¸ 15:14 tcohen i.e. ktd pull 15:14 tcohen #info Our CI and KTD tools are being upgraded for the new node.js dependencies introduced by ERM, please keep your KTD updated 15:14 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-E 15:13 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 15:13 tcohen #info Please take care of the Major and Critical bugs in the queue ASAP 15:13 tcohen #info Last translations update done, minor thing 15:12 tuxayo #topic Update from the Release manager (22.11) 15:12 cait #info Wiki upgrade is done! Thanks to thd, mtj and tcohen and everyone involved :) 15:12 tuxayo ok 15:12 tcohen can I go first? 15:12 tuxayo moving on? 15:11 * tcohen is feeding the kids minutes before school drop 15:11 tuxayo Wiki upgrade! Thanks again to the people that did it! ^^ 15:11 cait you got your own topic :) 15:11 tcohen I've got some RM announcements 15:10 cait nothing from me 15:10 tuxayo Anything to announce that doesn't fit in the other topics? 15:10 cait kidclamp: ashimema Joubu? 15:10 tuxayo #topic Announcements 15:10 tuxayo #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Limited, France 15:09 lukeg #info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions, Colorado, USA 15:08 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 15:08 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions, Argentina 15:08 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 15:08 tuxayo #topic Introductions 15:08 tuxayo #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_16_November_2022 Today's agenda 15:07 huginn` Current chairs: cait tuxayo 15:07 tuxayo #chair cait 15:07 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_16_november_2022' 15:07 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:07 huginn` Meeting started Wed Nov 16 15:07:41 2022 UTC. The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:07 tuxayo #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 16 November 2022 15:07 tuxayo-webchat ok! 15:06 cait but i have to turn off the washing machine sometime in between... sould start 'screaming' now every minute 15:06 cait I can 15:06 tuxayo-webchat Anyone to cochair? I have to leave in 20min ^^" 15:06 cait aah you are here ! 15:05 tuxayo-webchat sorry, a bit late for the meeting 15:05 tuxayo-webchat hi :) 15:05 thd Who can restart wahanui? 15:04 oleonard No wahanui 15:04 thd Broken bots. 15:04 oleonard :| 15:04 oleonard qa-team? 15:04 oleonard qa_team? 15:04 oleonard Who's here? 15:03 cait but I think we should have it... so we go ta release team again 15:03 cait I can chair if that's ok and tuxayo is not here? 15:03 cait everyone ready for the meeting? 15:02 cait tuxayo: around? 15:01 cait oleonard: it's a screen size issue I think, I was having mine squashed, maybe if you try that? 15:01 cait also: I think it's time for IRC meeting? 15:00 cait small screen here 15:00 * ashimema is bored at the station waiting for the train home 15:00 ashimema Wide-screen? 14:59 oleonard Not with the records on 32166, not with my own file that I know has items in it. 14:59 ashimema Afternoon all 14:59 oleonard No I don't see the items at all 14:58 cait i had the patch applied, but they appeared on the right before without too 14:58 cait but yo usee the items? 14:58 oleonard cait: I still can't seem to see what you're seeing with the staged file items 14:08 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32231 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve display of items, when items are created from staged files 14:08 cait bug 32231 14:05 oleonard That would be very helpful, thank you 14:05 cait do you want me to file the bug? 14:05 cait ok 14:05 oleonard Yes, I can work on that next 14:05 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32046 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , When adding a new records from a staged files, there are style issues 14:04 cait happy to sign bug 32046 as is and have that as a follow-up later? 14:04 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32166 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , When adding to a basket from a staged file we may use the wrong inputs 14:04 cait I used the sample records and instructions on bug 32166 14:03 cait yeah, it's a bit miraculous 14:03 oleonard Under what circumstances does that appear? I haven't seen it. 14:02 cait oleonard: I just found out today about the item display https://snipboard.io/DLZQ41.jpg < should we make that a bit wider/align left? 13:58 tcohen cait++ 13:58 tcohen cait 13:58 cait ... and it's in the notes too, sorry to bother 13:58 cait oleonard: thx! 13:57 oleonard cait: It's a false positive. That template is an exception. 13:57 cait i am working on staging related bugs 13:57 tcohen bgkriegel++ 13:57 cait tcohen++ bgkriegel++ 13:57 cait tcohen: thx :) 13:57 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , [OMNIBUS] Move staff client JavaScript to the footer 13:57 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32046 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , When adding a new records from a staged files, there are style issues 13:57 cait A <script> tag found inside head, must be moved to the body (see bug 17858) 13:57 cait FAIL js_in_body 13:57 cait oleonard: I got this on bug 32046: FAIL koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/addorderiso2709.tt 13:57 tcohen cait: strings have been updated with the e-resource stuff 13:56 tcohen hola cait 13:54 cait ah... got it resolved! 13:53 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31891 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Regression: show "MARC staging results" with clear link to manage staged batch 13:53 cait got a question about bug 31891? 13:53 cait Joubu: around? 13:52 tcohen hola #koha 11:49 cait I'll be back a little later to do more testing 11:49 cait thx! 11:46 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32046 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , When adding a new records from a staged files, there are style issues 11:45 oleonard I will be working on Bug 32046 today, by the way 11:45 cait big piece 11:45 cait yeah, trying to do some every day... it's quite a piece of work 11:44 oleonard cait very busy with the string bugs :) A sign of a busy translator I assume? 11:25 cait Election meeting today: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_16_November_2022 11:22 cait \o 11:22 oleonard o/ 10:07 SupportLibrary[m] <davidnind> "Support Library: I experimented..." <- Okey 10:03 cait hello #koha 09:57 davidnind Support Library: maybe share what you are using in paste.koha-community.org (not that I really know anything about ISBD) 09:56 davidnind Support Library: I experimented by add some text between two<br/>s in both ISBD and OPACISBD system preferences - viewing the record page was all I needed for the changes to show 09:00 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:00 Joubu @later tell tcohen 32154 is missing dbic changes! 08:52 Joubu tcohen: shouldn't we stop pushing and get jenkins happy again? 08:44 thibaut Hello 08:04 SupportLibrary[m] s/OPAC/Advanced/ 08:02 ashimema morning koha 07:57 alex_ Bonjour 07:40 reiveune hello 07:39 SupportLibrary[m] Hello. I'm having a little difficulty with the ISBD view. When I change something in the view structure from the OPAC system settings, nothing in the bibliographic record view of the ISBD changes. 06:06 Joubu caroline: did you open a bug? 06:04 Joubu caroline: the DST problem on some dates should be fixed for a long time now, did you report the bug?