Time Nick Message 02:32 * dcook thinks tcohen must never sleep... 07:49 reiveune hello 07:51 alex_ Bonjour 08:31 Joubu @later tell tcohen There are several follow-up on 32030 to fix failing tests. However one fix is missing and I am not sure I will have time today to have a look (see last comment). 08:31 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:08 vfernandes[m] hi #koha-community:matrix.org 11:10 cait hello 11:15 vfernandes[m] can we check the Koha 22.11 (pre) release notes anywhere? 11:15 cait yes 11:15 cait sec 11:16 cait https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/-/blob/master/release_notes_22_06_00.md 11:16 cait it looks like it's missing the most recent additions (says last change 3 weeks ago) 11:16 cait ashimema: was this supposed to update automatically? 11:17 cait vfernandes[m]: we've had some bigger additions after the script was last run, are you looking for something specific? 11:19 vfernandes[m] I want to do a presentation with the most important new features of the Koha last versions (21.11, 22.05 and 22.11) 11:20 cait for 22.11 the important ones missing are probably ERM module, OIDC authentication and provisioning, item groups and item group holds 11:21 ashimema yes 11:21 ashimema it was 11:21 ashimema seems there's something odd going on 11:21 ashimema I'll run it in a few minutes 11:22 ashimema running now 11:22 ashimema and watching for errors 11:22 cait ashimema++ 11:24 vfernandes[m] thanks cait and ashimema 11:31 tcohen hola #koha 11:32 oleonard o/ 11:32 ashimema done 11:33 cait It includes 11 new features, 323 enhancements, 458 bugfixes. 11:33 ashimema huge release 11:34 cait It includes 6 new features, 260 enhancements, 363 bugfixes. 11:34 cait this is 3 weeks of work now 11:35 cait 5 new, 63 enh and 95 bug fixes 11:36 * ashimema is getting confused about whitespace in notices.. very confused. 11:36 cait hmmmm why is NSO almot 40?! 11:36 cait NQA I mean 11:38 cait ashimema: can we help? 11:39 ashimema what.. with whitespace issues? 11:39 ashimema I'm just confused 11:40 ashimema it's my new notices for catalog concerns 11:40 ashimema they all hit the database with a crap load of whitespace 11:40 ashimema but the templates look simple and small 11:40 ashimema >Dear [%- INCLUDE 'patron-title.inc' patron => ticket.reporter -%],<br>... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/SgwBBnmLoYTCmKxDmsDLoaBq>) 11:41 cait Not sure then 11:42 pastebot "ashimema" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Dear [%- INCLUDE 'patron-title" (62 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/18328 11:42 ashimema paste shows it more clearly 11:42 ashimema template above the -------- 11:42 ashimema results between the next two ----------- 11:43 cait really odd 11:43 ashimema i.e a tonne of blank lines at the tope, a huge whitespace between 'Dear' and the name, 'more blank linkes.. 11:43 ashimema it's really weird.. 11:43 ashimema and it happens to all the new templates i've put it.. 11:43 cait it's probably the inlcudes 11:43 ashimema I have absolutely no idea why 11:43 cait at least the second one 11:43 ashimema Joubu ^ any ideas 11:43 cait it would not be visible on an HTML page, but it's visible in notice templates 11:43 cait did you check HTML? 11:44 ashimema yes 11:44 cait ah you copied the source? 11:44 ashimema yup 11:44 cait i bet it's us not using [%- -%] consistently in the template building 11:44 cait at lest for biblio-title 11:44 ashimema mm, perhaps 11:45 ashimema but that still doesn't really explain why we get a load of up front space 11:45 ashimema another little annoyance I just spotted.. our helpers give relative URLs.. which are fine.. but not great in an email context 11:50 cait but easy to fix by adding the opacbaseurl 11:52 ashimema not really 11:52 ashimema as the links are constructed inside the include it means adding an option to the include 11:52 ashimema you can't just add it in the template easily 11:54 ashimema OK.. fixing up [%- in the includes does help a lot 11:54 ashimema still a few issues though. 11:57 cait maybe do the fixup on a separate bug 11:59 ashimema I should probably put this include fix stuff in another bug â˜¹ï¸ 12:00 ashimema lol 12:03 cait ;) 12:08 ashimema why do my bugs always end up so huge 12:09 ashimema this was meant to be a fairly simple dev for a customer.. a couple of days worth.. 12:09 cait perfectionist? :) 12:09 ashimema 322 comments later and it's still going 12:10 ashimema mind you.. bugzilla really doesn't help by adding in a comment for every attachement.. that grows awefully fast for larger patchsets with lots of rebases. 12:19 marcelr o/ 12:22 cait h marcelr :) 12:41 * cait waves at oleonard 12:42 oleonard Back after a restart... hopefully ktd will work now... 12:43 cait the normal up hasn't been working for me, but it worked with ktd --es6 up 12:45 tcohen ktd pull 12:45 tcohen because of the new deps 12:45 tcohen sorry I didn't announce yesterday 12:45 cait i did the ktd pull - was broken before the big pushes for me already 12:45 tcohen ?? 12:45 cait I'll get you the error next time I get it 12:46 tcohen I missed some of the conversation 12:46 cait nope :) it's me, don't worry 12:46 ashimema dman 12:46 ashimema we're clashing on bug 32028 cait 12:46 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32028 minor, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Passed QA , Add page-section to various administration pages (part 2) 12:47 cait i put myself as qa contact... 12:47 ashimema I was just writing a follow-up 12:47 cait ah 12:47 cait which page for? 12:47 ashimema smart rules 12:47 cait hah :) 12:47 cait did you see my last comment there? 12:47 ashimema just about to read it 12:48 ashimema I went to comment and saw you had 12:49 cait I can test your follow-up 12:49 ashimema Just writing a quick test plan to say what I changed 12:52 ashimema attaching now 12:53 ashimema ooh.. 12:53 ashimema I want to make another change.. 12:54 cait go ahead 12:54 cait I'll stare at buttons meanwhile 12:55 oleonard That was my plan... pending ktd up... 12:58 ashimema uploading again now cait 12:58 marcelr is the new erm module workable without ebsco api keys or cant you do anything then ? 12:59 cait yes, you can use local holdings 12:59 marcelr how can you add one? 12:59 cait there should be a button to do htat 12:59 marcelr i can only search, and that gives 404s only 13:00 cait but I haven't looked in a bit 13:00 cait are you on the sandbox or on your installation? 13:00 ashimema have you updated your dependancies marcelr.. it came with a bunch of new ones 13:00 marcelr own installation 13:00 ashimema that made me stumble this mornign as the API's were all silently failing 13:01 cait on the left, you should have e-holdings - ebsco and local 13:01 cait when you are at local - packages 13:01 marcelr ok ill check did not see warnings in plack-error though 13:01 cait btw... not sure i like the design htere being so different to all our other navs *hides* 13:01 cait then you go new package 13:01 marcelr i cant even see local packages 13:01 cait hm 13:01 marcelr i have agreement search 13:02 marcelr can search packages and titles 13:02 marcelr i will check missing stuff then 13:02 cait go to your system preferences 13:02 cait ERMProviders 13:02 cait and we probably might adapt ddefaults if that is the issue 13:02 marcelr File not found : js/vue/dist/main.js at /usr/share/koha/Koha/Template/Plugin/Asset.pm line 84. 13:02 cait make sure you check local 13:03 marcelr yes it says local 13:03 marcelr i am missing js scripts apparently 13:05 cait maybe for comparison: https://staff-erm.sandboxes.biblibre.eu (k.../k...) 13:05 ashimema I thought we'd fixed lots of heading levels 13:05 ashimema I'm seeing issues littered around a lot again today 13:06 marcelr cait: the whole container i do not see it 13:06 marcelr i suspect trouble on dev installs with this erm module 13:07 marcelr wrong paths etc 13:09 cait i commented today we should check in packages too 13:09 cait i remembe we had missing something when adding other modules that made it not show up in packages (the files were missing) 13:11 marcelr yes should be checked (or have been) 13:12 cait oleonard: E-Ressource management - the capitalization kinda upsets me 13:12 cait is that correct? 13:13 tcohen marcelr: have you yarn build_js? 13:13 cait ashimema: on your follow-ups now 13:13 oleonard cait: I would say the R should not be capitalized 13:13 cait tcohen: is that documented somewhere yet? build_js ? 13:13 cait oleonard: my feeling too 13:13 cait but i think I was told it was correct another time 13:14 marcelr tcohen: where do i need it for? hasnt it been built ? 13:17 oleonard ashimema: Do you remember a discussion a long time about about using display:table to make it so that tables don't overflow their containers? 13:25 ashimema yes 13:25 ashimema I remember 13:26 ashimema from memory I tried to do a global fix and we found it was too big a change and broke display of a bunch of other things so I think it got reverted.. 13:26 ashimema I'd love to have it revisisted 13:26 ashimema it annoyed me no end 13:27 oleonard Yeah... I didn't remember there was a bug, I'll try to hunt it down because I don't remember what the global fix was 13:33 Joubu tcohen: you must have pushed the dist file! 13:36 ashimema ha, me either.. 13:36 ashimema let me know if you can't find it.. I likely have it in my history somewhere 13:49 ashimema bug 25242 13:49 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, CLOSED FIXED, Accessibility: The 'Holdings' table partially obscures navigation links at 200% zoom 13:49 ashimema oleonard ^ 13:49 oleonard Oh, thank you ashimema 13:50 ashimema it was table-layout: fixed 13:50 cait bug 32147 is ready for testing 13:50 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32147 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Capitalization: E-Resource management should be E-resource management 13:50 ashimema or something along those lines.. rather than display:table 13:51 oleonard I added a little follow-up to Bug 32004 13:51 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32004 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Increase font size in top navigation pull downs 13:54 ashimema bug 12580 is still open for the overflowing issues oloenard 13:54 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12580 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , DataTables overflow their container elements 13:54 ashimema linked from the above one 13:54 ashimema 🙂 14:34 SupportLibrary[m] Hello. I am writing with the following question. When creating a new template from Authority types, I render the field I assign number 113 for Auth field copied. In the template in field 113 b i am writing the name of the publisher (This template is for publisher Authority record). When i created the template i added it to the bibliographic framework of of my choice. In the framework i created a filed 9 (RLIN), so when i select an 14:35 SupportLibrary[m] already created publisher, its number is automatically filled. Why only the filed from which i select the publisher is locked but not the filed with 9 (RLIN) like it is with Personal name (100)? 14:37 SupportLibrary[m] The option BiblioAddsAuthorities is set to don't allow! 14:45 caroline SupportLibrary[m], can you share a screenshot? I'm not sure I understand what is going on 14:45 SupportLibrary[m] ok 14:45 caroline I've also never been able to make publisher authorities work because of the $b. It's like it has to have an $a (it was the case a while back, I haven't tried in a while) 14:49 SupportLibrary[m] This is what happens: For tag 260 i made subtag b to be a authority for publisher. In subtag 9(RLIN) the number of the specific authority publisher is shown. When option BiblioAddsAuthorities is set to don't allow, only the subtag b is locked but not subtag 9(RLIN) 14:52 caroline Ok I think it was the same problem I had back then... Let me try again... 14:55 SupportLibrary[m] The problem is solved. I make subfield 260a the authority and now the subfield 9 (RLIN) is locked 14:55 Joubu oleonard: I've used display:table for the DTs in the ERM module and it worked great 14:56 cait caroline, oleonard: bug 32147 14:57 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32147 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Capitalization: E-Resource management should be E-resource management 14:57 caroline SupportLibrary[m], ok! Does it solve your problem though? Can you choose an authority and it is copied in 260$b? 14:58 SupportLibrary[m] no now it is copied in 260$a 15:00 caroline :( Yeah... I think that's the extent of Koha capabilities... 15:00 caroline Can you add the place name in 113$a and publisher name in 113$b? 15:02 liliputech hi koha (long time no see) 15:05 oleonard Hi liliputech 15:05 caroline cait are you looking for a signoff or comments? 15:05 SupportLibrary[m] <caroline> "Can you add the place name in 11..." <- May be it is possiible. If 113$a is authority and 113$b is authority which number will be shown in 113$9(RLIN)? 15:06 tuxayo-webchat hi, sorry, can't attend the meeting 15:08 cait both 15:08 SupportLibrary[m] In my case take the number of the last selected 15:09 oleonard Joke's on tuxayo, we all forgot XD 15:09 caroline SupportLibrary[m], I meant in the same authority put place name in $a and publisher name in $b... but I don't think it would work either 15:09 liliputech 'kay, meeting postponed? 15:09 ashimema lol 15:10 * ashimema runs out the door on the school run. 15:10 SupportLibrary[m] caroline: I will try tomorrow 15:11 * liliputech forgot his schoolbag, going back home @lightspeed 15:24 caroline regarding e-, I found this, which is not the best reference as they don't use any capital letters in their entry headings, but in "Cite this entry", they have it written like E-book https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/e-book 15:28 cait i think this is right 15:28 cait no capital letters.. only for names like months, days, countries 15:28 caroline I also found the same in wikipedia, but wanted a more reputable source... 15:29 marcelr E-mail or e-mail is fine 15:29 marcelr E-Mail is not 15:29 cait https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/German 15:29 cait they do use capitals when appropriat 15:29 cait e 15:29 caroline ok! Good to know, I was looking at only common words, like "cat" 15:30 cait oc :) 15:31 caroline :D 15:31 caroline I will sign off and we can debate the long form vs abbreviation later? 15:36 cait sure :) 15:37 caroline ok maybe I can't sign off... Is it normal that after I enable the syspref, there is nothing in the module? There is no add button, no title https://snipboard.io/pvhrkZ.jpg 15:37 caroline please ignore the quantity of tabs lol, I'm doing too many things at once 15:39 caroline ERMModule is enabled and ERMProviders is set to Local, I should be able to add local agreements no? Do I have to rebuild something before? 15:41 marcelr caroline: there is still a problem in master 15:41 marcelr i had the same 15:42 marcelr tomas should push some files still 15:42 caroline ah ok, phew I thought it was only me again... thx marcelr :) 16:23 cait caroline: just fixed the space 16:23 caroline +1 ok will check again 16:25 cait thx! 16:27 ashimema See the message on devel lists Caroline 16:27 ashimema To play with eRM you need to build the js 16:29 ashimema https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2022-November/047385.html 16:29 ashimema We're discussing how to ease this.. 16:29 ashimema And my opinion is no, Tomas shouldn't push more files 16:30 cait hm but we need them built in the packages, don't we? 16:30 ashimema It would end up with a rapidly increasing repository size and conflict resolution fun regularly 16:30 ashimema We do need a clearly documented process though 16:31 ashimema He was keen to get it pushed for string freeze etc . But we are still working on those little things 16:41 caroline both commands don't work on my environment, unfortunately 16:45 ashimema perhaps a `yarn install` first? 16:47 caroline It gives me the same error 00h00m00s 0/0: : ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'install' 16:47 caroline am I supposed to be in a particular directory? 16:49 ashimema hmm 16:49 ashimema pass I'm afraid 16:50 caroline ERM is not in the sandboxes either 16:51 caroline Sorry cait 16:51 oleonard https://staff-erm.sandboxes.biblibre.eu 16:52 caroline can I add a patch to that sandbox? 16:52 cait not your fault 16:53 cait i think this one is locked and probably a bit outdated 16:53 caroline The option is there but I don't want to break it for everyone 16:53 cait have you run the new jsbuild thing? 16:53 cait or do we have a general problem? 16:53 caroline I tried but it says there is no such thing 16:53 caroline it's probably just me 16:54 cait ah ok, probably ont only you 17:07 * ashimema is looking into it now 17:07 ashimema for me.. i get 17:07 ashimema yarn build_js... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LHOvRagohDbshQdvcSAdxAhW>) 17:08 ashimema now I'm running `yarn install` which should grab webpack for me. 17:09 ashimema hmm 17:10 ashimema ok.. not happy here either 17:13 ashimema are you running in k-t-d caroline? 17:13 ashimema for me 17:13 ashimema kshell > kshell 17:13 ashimema yarn install 17:13 caroline no I have what is called a "vintage" installation 17:13 ashimema yarn build_js 17:13 ashimema that does the trick 17:13 ashimema dev type install? 17:13 ashimema I use that at times too 17:14 ashimema for that I get npm/node version issues 17:15 caroline git that I pull every time 17:15 ashimema ? 17:16 caroline I have a git installation on my computer that was done ages ago and I just pull when I need to update it 17:17 caroline I didn't install it myself, so I can't say for sure, but maybe by package? I have no idea 17:19 caroline I wouldn't spend time on this if it works for you 17:20 caroline I'll just not test ERM for now and wait until it is completely integrated 17:24 ashimema Will look more tomorrow 17:24 ashimema Runnin around after kids now 17:45 tcohen hi all 17:45 tcohen gentle reminder: tomorrow is string freeze 17:45 tcohen please SO/QA all the things that touch strings 17:45 tcohen please special attention to those page-section patches, that will be a pain to rebase later 18:19 ashimema This release is properly creeping up in me 18:19 ashimema Will spend some hours tonight trying to receive any last page-section bugs 18:20 ashimema I'm also kinda keen to get the tab Vs pills one done.. the majority case (where it's not embedded inside another page-section of filedset) seems agreed upon.. 18:20 ashimema But not coded 18:21 ashimema The nested cases still need a little thought... I'll try to look at that too 18:21 oleonard I think I have the patch mostly ready 18:28 cait[m] hello 19:03 ashimema nice 22:52 cait we missed the election meeting.. and we only got 11 days left... 22:55 davidnind[m] oh no! I haven't read back through the yet today.. 22:56 cait checked the logs, it looks like it was postponed, maybe missing the urgency 22:59 davidnind[m] should I recreate for next week at the same time, or leave to tcohen to do? (cutting it fine before the release....) 22:59 cait next week might be our best pick 23:00 cait meaning i have no better idea - and we are also still missing some of the more important roles 23:02 davidnind[m] Ok, I'll finish what I'm doing and 1) add for next week 2) send an email to the general and development mailing lists with a reminder about the roles. The release manager can change to suit if needed. 23:02 cait you are awesome :) 23:03 davidnind[m] sometimes... 😄 23:03 cait oftentimes 23:19 cait oleonard++ davidnind++ ashimema++ 23:35 davidnind[m] #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 9 November 2022 23:35 huginn` Meeting started Wed Nov 9 23:35:00 2022 UTC. The chair is davidnind[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 23:35 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 23:35 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_9_november_2022' 23:35 davidnind[m] #info Agenda link: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_9_November_2022 23:35 davidnind[m] #info The meeting was not held, so is postponed for a week at the same time 23:35 davidnind[m] #info The meeting needs to be held before the 22.11 release so that voting can take place for 23.05 roles 23:35 davidnind[m] #topic Next meeting 23:36 davidnind[m] #info Next meeting: 16 November 2022, 15:00 UTC 23:36 davidnind[m] #endmeeting 23:36 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Nov 9 23:36:14 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 23:36 huginn` Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_9_november_2022.2022-11-09-23.35.html 23:36 huginn` Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_9_november_2022.2022-11-09-23.35.txt 23:36 huginn` Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_9_november_2022.2022-11-09-23.35.log.html 23:40 cait Am I stil the only person where the QA script kills patches? I end up with the files unstaged after running it