Time  Nick              Message
21:52 Tylathos          Hey :) I run into a problem. I can't use the issue stats wizard. I always get an Error Page 500. Anyone else got the problem. (Version: 	22.05.05.000)
21:45 lukeg             Its usually the 22nd, but this month that falls on a Saturday so we prefer to wait till a weekday
21:32 caroline          lukeg, thanks! Someone asked me, and I said I thought it was next week, but I wasn't 100% sure
21:32 lukeg             caroline: My plan is to release 22.05.06 on 10/24
21:12 caroline          yay!
21:12 Mauricio          Thanks Caroline! (=
21:12 Mauricio          yes, confirmed, The process continue after SQL.
21:08 Mauricio          ok i`ll ckeck it now
21:07 huginn`           Bug 31086: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Do not allow hold requests with no branchcode
21:07 caroline          no idea sorry... Someone said they did an sql command and it worked for them https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31086#c34
21:06 Mauricio          oh ok. Is there a way that i could complete my upgrade?
21:05 caroline          Mauricio, I don't think the fix is available yet
21:04 Mauricio          maybe my upgrade is incomplete...
21:04 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=37673 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
21:04 Mauricio          bug 37673 says that the file a/installer/data/mysql/db_revs/220600020.pl need to be edited, but in my directory the 220505000.pl is the lastaone. I do not have 220600020.pl file.
21:01 caroline          lukeg, when is 22.05.06 coming out? is it next week?
20:58 Mauricio          thanks! (Y)
20:57 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31673 blocker, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to stable , DB update of bug 31086 fails: Cannot change column 'branchcode': used in a foreign key constraint
20:57 caroline          Mauricio, see bug 31673
20:53 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31086 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Do not allow hold requests with no branchcode
20:53 Mauricio          Hello everyone, please someone could helpme with an error when update koha from v19.05 to 22.05. This is the error: "Upgrade to 22.05.04.002  [15:43:43]: Bug 31086 - Do not allow null values in branchcodes for reserves ERROR - {UNKNOWN}: DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot change column 'branchcode': used in a foreign key constraint 'reserves_ibfk_4' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Installer.pm line 739"
20:46 caroline          damn... I was hoping to avoid the manual stuff
20:46 fridolin          you may delete entries before upgrade and recreate them manually after
20:45 fridolin          caroline: it was entirely manual, deleting and reediting entries
20:35 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Rename News tool
20:35 caroline          frido or marcel, would you care to share what you did to correct what bug 24387 messed up? Even if it's not applicable to everyone, I could at least use it as inspiration... Were about to upgrade 60+ installations from 21.05 to 22.05 and I'm seriously dreading this
19:31 caroline          davidnind[m]++
19:23 fridolin          davidnind[m]: thanks a lot for your signoffs :D
19:23 fridolin          yellow
18:49 caroline          I love that one of the steps is "magic happens" XD
18:43 davidnind[m]      so maybe I should send a message to koha-translate mailing list/translation manager to clarify?
18:42 davidnind[m]      still not sure what is for steps 5 and 6
18:41 davidnind[m]      here is the wiki page I wrote a while ago on the process for translating the manual https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_management#Translating_the_manual
16:35 cait              bye all
16:11 SupportLibrary[m] I will try it
16:11 SupportLibrary[m] <caroline> "Support Library, I don't think..." <- Thank you
16:07 ashimema          can't remember the 'secret' url
16:07 ashimema          but I'm on a new computer and new browser..
16:06 ashimema          there is
16:06 ashimema          ah.. yes
16:05 cait              similar... I thought there was a form to make a merge request or so? but... url?
15:59 ashimema          I can't for the life of me remember
15:59 * ashimema        reads back
15:59 ashimema          huh
15:55 cait              me too, have a nice day, just in case :)
15:54 caroline          I have to go, but I'll be back later
15:54 caroline          not sure what the process is... ashimema maybe?
15:54 cait              grap=grab
15:54 cait              caroline: i think we had a process, but I forgot it again and it would be great to get the manual on the website updated
15:53 cait              caroline: are you the one to ask to grap the de-DE po files from translate for 22.05 manual?
15:22 caroline          (maybe I'm just being more confusing, if so, I apologize!!)
15:22 caroline          trying to clarify my hidden field explanation... 'ignore' tab will remove the information from the record, but 'Editor' checkbox will only hide the field from the editing form
15:20 caroline          I you really want to hide the option, I guess you could do it with the InranertUserCSS or IntranetUserJS system preference
15:19 caroline          I don't know if that makes sense?
15:19 caroline          SupportLibrary[m], I don't think there is a way to remove the button or the option. However, I suggest changing your frameworks so that the hidden fields are in an actual tab (not the ignore tab) and the Editor checkbox is unchecked. That way, the information will not be lost if you change frameworks, but the field will not be visible in the editor
14:55 reiveune          bye
14:38 marcelr           bbl
14:37 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31889 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Insert 952 tags in correct order when embedding items
14:37 marcelr           easy signoff? bug 31889
13:51 SupportLibrary[m] Example: If I edit a book and change the template to this for example for a CD. If there are fields missing from the CD template but not from the book template, the information that was there will disappear
13:50 SupportLibrary[m] When i click this button i want to hide or remove "change the framework" because if i change the framework some fields disappear
13:41 caroline_catlady  SupportLibrary[m], can you elaborate on your problem? you click the Settings button to change the frameowrk and then what happens?
13:02 marcelr           tcohen: i might add a tiny patch to replace append_fields if 31224 takes much time
13:00 SupportLibrary[m] I'm part of a team of enthusiasts and we've been using Koch for a while now at our local library.  If it doesn't sound stupid, I would like to ask about a solution to a problem we encountered. It's about editing a record, and specifically when pressing the Settings button, if pushed to disable change framework option
13:00 marcelr           its a good investment
13:00 marcelr           how large is her departure bonus btw ?
12:59 ashimema          I wouldn't rule anything out right now
12:58 ashimema          Haha,
12:58 marcelr           and rule the country
12:58 marcelr           King Charles will stand up now !
12:58 ashimema          Who knows.. British politics is like watching a poorly funded soap right now.. one mess to another
12:57 ashimema          I can't really remember the last time I felt we had a functioning parliament/government.. the coalition 12 years ago maybe?
12:57 marcelr           and now boris again? :)
12:57 marcelr           ah she left already
12:56 ashimema          Prime minister just quit after a shockingly bad 44 days of being in power
12:55 * ashimema        sadly waves from the mess that is the UK right now
12:55 tcohen            ashimema: what's wrong with the UK now?
12:55 * tcohen          waves from Argentina
12:55 wahanui           hola, ashimema
12:55 ashimema          Hi
12:54 * cait            waves from Germany
12:54 marcelr           hi SupportLibrary[m]
12:54 SupportLibrary[m] Hello. Greetings from Bulgaria.
12:54 marcelr           looks a bit silly
12:53 marcelr           but i would like the insert_ordered instead of append_fields though to remove 999 952 in marcxml
12:53 tcohen            LOL
12:52 marcelr           it wont crash Koha now
12:52 marcelr           no i added a comment on 31224
12:51 tcohen            the other dev is big and will take more time
12:51 tcohen            marcelr: fix it if you think it is worth
12:51 marcelr           i'll let you fix it there
12:51 marcelr           the routine was refactored into Koha objects
12:50 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31224 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Koha::Biblio::Metadata->record should use the EmbedItems filter
12:50 marcelr           do you fix it or should I
12:50 tcohen            ashimema and I are working on getting rid of it on bug 31224
12:50 tcohen            that was an oversight from when I pushed Joubu's stuff
12:49 ashimema          Man the UK is such a mess
12:49 marcelr           append
12:49 marcelr           ha Koha::Item::_embed_items still does it
12:49 tcohen            marcelr: we are phasing that out in favour of the REcordProcessor filter
12:47 marcelr           exported but not existing ?
12:47 marcelr           git grep  EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio C4/Biblio.pm:        EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio
12:47 marcelr           hmm even more fun
12:46 marcelr           now it is 999 952
12:46 marcelr           hmm why does EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio use append_fields for 952 ?
12:45 marcelr           o/
12:38 cait              super happy
12:38 wahanui           o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:38 cait              confetti!
12:38 * tcohen          wants to prepare for the transitiotn next week
12:38 tcohen            thd: do you think we need gmcharlt for the last wiki backup?
12:13 magnuse           \o/
12:13 oleonard          o/
12:13 tcohen            hola Joubu cait ashimema oleonard magnuse mtj
12:05 magnuse           cait: ah, and this is an early stage of a migration, so i think we just see what happens next time we load the data
12:03 cait              magnuse: hm we didn't use the script, we relaoded the data (one advantage if you are using a union catalogue)
11:50 tcohen            o/
11:50 ashimema          Haha, been there, done that
11:50 oleonard          Thanks ashimema, I had downgraded Mojolicious for testing an older Koha
11:37 ashimema          That where I usually start looking.  Tail the logs
11:37 ashimema          It sometimes means the spec files are stuffed
11:37 ashimema          Er.. don't think that was me
11:36 oleonard          ashimema: Did you mention the other day you were getting 404 errors from the api?
11:36 magnuse           cait: doesn't seem to work for me
11:22 cait              we map them too
11:22 cait              magnuse: yes
11:13 magnuse           cait: you hope admin/koha2marclinks.pl should work the way i hope?
11:05 ashimema          ta
10:53 Joubu             Greasemonkey
10:53 * ashimema        has recently switched to firefox.. any tips on which extension for using userscripts like that one Joubu ?
10:50 ashimema          so I can actually read the comments
10:50 Joubu             There was that as well, but haven't tried it since... https://pastebin.com/c99G9KgG
10:50 ashimema          as in I go through every bloody comment and add the 'obsolete' tag to it..
10:49 oleonard          I thought I asked rangi[m] about it at one time but maybe I misremember
10:49 oleonard          I thought I remembered the comments being obsoleted automatically at one time but it has been ages since it worked
10:48 Joubu             doing manually?
10:48 cait              :)
10:48 * cait            heads into a 2 hour meeting.... wish me luck
10:48 cait              maybe you are too fast for the cron :)
10:48 ashimema          so maybe there's a cronjob that's dead?
10:48 ashimema          I've been doing it manually for ages.. I don't see it happen otherwise
10:45 Joubu             ashimema: The comments with patches that have been obsoleted are obsoleted (cronjob IIRC), and so are folded
10:45 cait              I hope so :)
10:41 magnuse           if i have a catalogue where some records have "place of publication" in 260a and some have it in 264a, and i want to get both into biblio.copyrightdate, should it work to simply map both marc fields to that db field in admin/koha2marclinks.pl?
10:41 * magnuse         never had issues with -e, but uses bz way too infrequently...
10:40 ashimema          they drive me mad
10:40 ashimema          I really really really wish there was a way to hide all the 'this was attached' comments..
10:40 ashimema          so -e doesn't win me anything in my workflow
10:39 ashimema          and I tend to go to the bug on bz to check it uploaded OK then add my comment
10:39 cait              yeah, but I often do clean-up stuff
10:39 ashimema          I can't set 'obsolete' tags on comments via -e (which would be nice)
10:39 ashimema          so long as patch names match.. which they usually will
10:39 mtj               i have an alias to use -e always too
10:39 ashimema          without -e
10:39 ashimema          it auto-obsoletes anyway
10:38 cait              so you can obsolete and set patch difficulty
10:38 cait              it brings up the edit
10:38 ashimema          I'm in the habbit of looking at bz to add comments myself
10:38 oleonard          I just use it because I was told to 100 years ago and I never even knew why
10:38 ashimema          I think it got better, but never 100%
10:38 cait              don't have any issues usually
10:38 cait              I am constantly using -e
10:38 ashimema          i pretty much never got into the habbit of using -e because it worked so infrequently for me
10:37 ashimema          it's why I stopped using -e nearly a decade ago and never looked back I think.
10:37 mtj               hmm, ok
10:37 Joubu             it's not a recent problem, it has always been there
10:36 mtj               i havent done any big upgrades on my dev box in along time
10:35 mtj               the problem seems to be a recent thing for me
10:34 mtj               hi folks, im curious about the gbz attach unicode problems too...
10:24 oleonard          o/
10:20 paulderscheid[m]  morning all
09:42 AFperth           I have spoken witha few people before because we can't access our library data!! the admin is in Canberra Perth and the person in charged has quit and the black box attached to koha is broken. therefore we can't access our data anymore. can someone tell me how we can retrieve it please?
09:37 marcelr           bbl
09:36 marcelr           which also contained the unicode
09:36 marcelr           With -e, allows editing of the attachments on the listed bug
09:34 * ashimema        should try the puthon3 branch some time soon
09:34 marcelr           so thats the cause
09:33 marcelr           and i do: git bz attach -e -n $1 HEAD;
09:33 ashimema          oh.. i never use -e
09:32 marcelr           ok i should have tried
09:31 Joubu             bz attach with and without -e behave differently with the unicode issue IIRC
09:27 marcelr           great
09:26 ashimema          sure
09:25 marcelr           ashimema: could you forget the former patch and add a qa stamp on the current(!!!) one ?
09:24 ashimema          ok
09:24 marcelr           i will remove your stuff
09:24 ashimema          ☹️
09:23 ashimema          ?
09:23 marcelr           now i have the issue again
09:23 marcelr           ashimema you are interfering
09:22 ashimema          maybe..
09:20 marcelr           version differences?
09:20 davidnind[m]      marcelr++
09:20 ashimema          I have no idea why
09:20 ashimema          it just worked first time for me.. lol
09:20 ashimema          erm..
09:19 marcelr           it is a git bz issue with unicode cruft on the Bugzilla title and attachment name
09:19 marcelr           he solved
09:17 ashimema          annoying
09:17 ashimema          dang
09:14 marcelr           hmm kind of stubborn thing, i removed the whole title.. but to no avail yet
09:10 marcelr           i will try to fetch it manually and remove the cruft
09:10 ashimema          never seen that sort of thing before
09:09 ashimema          Subject: [PATCH] =?UTF-8?q?Bug=C2=A031883:=20t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters?=... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fhdSunlOLpiFGFHJAquPxkEa>)
09:09 ashimema          there's some funk in the subject of the patch
09:09 ashimema          wierd...
09:08 ashimema          okies
09:07 marcelr           it has a unicode issue somewhere
09:07 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31883 normal, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Failed QA , t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters missing built-in TT filter "trim" causes false warnings
09:07 marcelr           it is bug 31883
09:07 davidnind[m]      yes for me
09:07 marcelr           no in my own dev container
09:06 ashimema          oh.. this is inside ktd is it?
09:05 davidnind[m]      I did a git pull for KTD, and a docker-compose pull as well, but it made no difference - still had the error
09:05 marcelr           yeah same issue again
09:04 marcelr           will try again
09:04 marcelr           but i refreshed the container now
09:04 marcelr           after i tried that particular one, i had issue with other patches too
09:03 marcelr           ok
09:03 davidnind[m]      I'm fine signing off other bugs, so maybe something with that specific bug
09:02 marcelr           so there must be something?
09:02 marcelr           thx ashimema i saw that davidnind reported the problem too
08:21 ashimema          works OK for me marcelr
08:20 fridolin          for Elasticers ;)
08:20 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31887 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Search on MARC field does not work in Elasticsearch mappings table
08:20 fridolin          a small issue but fix very useful Bug 31887
08:15 marcelr           try git bz attach
08:15 ashimema          I hadn't noticed yet
08:15 ashimema          humm..
08:15 marcelr           UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xa0' in position 361: ordinal not in range(128)
08:14 marcelr           codec errors etc
08:14 marcelr           whats happening with attaching bugs to Bugzilla ?
08:05 marcelr           hi ashimema
07:58 ashimema          Morning
07:38 cait              hello
07:25 marcelr           hi cait
07:22 cait              good morning #koha!
06:41 marcelr           o/
06:40 alex_             Bonjour
06:17 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31810 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Place hold button should be yellow
06:17 fridolin          ahhh back Bug 31810
06:14 marcelr           hi #koha
06:05 fridolin          https://bugs.koha-community.org/
06:05 fridolin          ah bugzilla is busy ?
06:05 fridolin          h
06:03 reiveune          hello
06:03 dcook             I've been meaning to get in touch with Alliance francaise personally so no time like the present..
06:02 huginn`           dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:02 dcook             @later tell afperth I work over at Prosentient Systems. We could help look into this for you.
06:01 huginn`           dcook: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
06:01 dcook             afperth: Are you still around?
06:00 dcook             Bah..
06:00 dcook             @bug 31732
04:22 afperth           they used to pay someone but now they don't want to spend anymore money ans also the black box is broken anyway! so nobody can access anything anymore
04:22 mtj               afperth: hokay, i need to go now :0)
04:19 mtj               ask them to access this support channel for help
04:19 mtj               try getting some advice from them ^
04:18 mtj               AF canberra probably employ someone to admin their computer systems
04:17 mtj               wel... if the system is physically located in canberra, try getting someone in canberra to help
04:15 mtj               aah ok
04:12 afperth           every other alliance have given up and starting recording individual items on another system unfortunately!
04:11 mtj               afperth: i would send a group email within AF, asking for help and information
04:07 mtj               hmm, that specific problem we cant help you with
04:05 afperth           the problem is the contact has changed so many times!!
04:04 mtj               you need to find out the contact person for your system
04:03 afperth           is there someone I could contact?
04:02 afperth           my phone does not allow me to call outside Australia!
04:02 mtj               afperth: at this stage, you know more about your system than we do
04:02 afperth           how can we access it? without the black box? is there an adress?
04:01 mtj               (i also have to head out in 30 mins too)
04:00 mtj               but someone may be able to help the AF to get access to the system (and data)
04:00 mtj               afperth: its unlikely that someone here can send you your data, as no one has access to that system
03:56 mtj               afperth: i sent you a message
03:53 mtj               hi afperth, i can try to help
03:48 afperth           or is there any way that you could send us by email all our Perth data recoded (7000 items ) on an excel documents so we can import it somewhere else?
03:45 afperth           can you help us please?
03:18 afperth           Good morning, we have tried contacting canberra and they said that the black box is broken and that we can't access the server anymore ;-(  I am trying to find a way to access it whithout this box?!
02:57 mtj               afperth: have you tried contacting whoever admins your koha system?
02:54 mtj               aah, koha is located and admined by AF canberra
02:53 mtj               hi afperth, do you host your own koha? or have someone else do that?
02:48 afperth           hi there, we have been using KOHA since 2006 and the main box situated in Canberra alliance francaise de Perth has broken down. we need to access our data and will need a my cloud address to be able to retrieve it without the vblack box please. our email address is Reception@afperth.com.au
02:16 dcook             Hmm looks like Bugzilla might be struggling...
00:36 huginn`           Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31883 critical, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters missing built-in TT filter "trim" causes false warnings
00:36 mtj               tcohen: i made a fix - bug 31883 ^
00:04 mtj               hum, i thik ./t/lib/QA/TemplateFilters.pm needs to be patched to handle 'trim' filter