Time Nick Message 00:04 mtj hum, i thik ./t/lib/QA/TemplateFilters.pm needs to be patched to handle 'trim' filter 00:36 mtj tcohen: i made a fix - bug 31883 ^ 00:36 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31883 critical, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters missing built-in TT filter "trim" causes false warnings 02:16 dcook Hmm looks like Bugzilla might be struggling... 02:48 afperth hi there, we have been using KOHA since 2006 and the main box situated in Canberra alliance francaise de Perth has broken down. we need to access our data and will need a my cloud address to be able to retrieve it without the vblack box please. our email address is Reception@afperth.com.au 02:53 mtj hi afperth, do you host your own koha? or have someone else do that? 02:54 mtj aah, koha is located and admined by AF canberra 02:57 mtj afperth: have you tried contacting whoever admins your koha system? 03:18 afperth Good morning, we have tried contacting canberra and they said that the black box is broken and that we can't access the server anymore ;-( I am trying to find a way to access it whithout this box?! 03:45 afperth can you help us please? 03:48 afperth or is there any way that you could send us by email all our Perth data recoded (7000 items ) on an excel documents so we can import it somewhere else? 03:53 mtj hi afperth, i can try to help 03:56 mtj afperth: i sent you a message 04:00 mtj afperth: its unlikely that someone here can send you your data, as no one has access to that system 04:00 mtj but someone may be able to help the AF to get access to the system (and data) 04:01 mtj (i also have to head out in 30 mins too) 04:02 afperth how can we access it? without the black box? is there an adress? 04:02 mtj afperth: at this stage, you know more about your system than we do 04:02 afperth my phone does not allow me to call outside Australia! 04:03 afperth is there someone I could contact? 04:04 mtj you need to find out the contact person for your system 04:05 afperth the problem is the contact has changed so many times!! 04:07 mtj hmm, that specific problem we cant help you with 04:11 mtj afperth: i would send a group email within AF, asking for help and information 04:12 afperth every other alliance have given up and starting recording individual items on another system unfortunately! 04:15 mtj aah ok 04:17 mtj wel... if the system is physically located in canberra, try getting someone in canberra to help 04:18 mtj AF canberra probably employ someone to admin their computer systems 04:19 mtj try getting some advice from them ^ 04:19 mtj ask them to access this support channel for help 04:22 mtj afperth: hokay, i need to go now :0) 04:22 afperth they used to pay someone but now they don't want to spend anymore money ans also the black box is broken anyway! so nobody can access anything anymore 06:00 dcook @bug 31732 06:00 dcook Bah.. 06:01 dcook afperth: Are you still around? 06:01 huginn` dcook: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 06:02 dcook @later tell afperth I work over at Prosentient Systems. We could help look into this for you. 06:02 huginn` dcook: The operation succeeded. 06:03 dcook I've been meaning to get in touch with Alliance francaise personally so no time like the present.. 06:03 reiveune hello 06:05 fridolin h 06:05 fridolin ah bugzilla is busy ? 06:05 fridolin https://bugs.koha-community.org/ 06:14 marcelr hi #koha 06:17 fridolin ahhh back Bug 31810 06:17 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31810 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Place hold button should be yellow 06:40 alex_ Bonjour 06:41 marcelr o/ 07:22 cait good morning #koha! 07:25 marcelr hi cait 07:38 cait hello 07:58 ashimema Morning 08:05 marcelr hi ashimema 08:14 marcelr whats happening with attaching bugs to Bugzilla ? 08:14 marcelr codec errors etc 08:15 marcelr UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xa0' in position 361: ordinal not in range(128) 08:15 ashimema humm.. 08:15 ashimema I hadn't noticed yet 08:15 marcelr try git bz attach 08:20 fridolin a small issue but fix very useful Bug 31887 08:20 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31887 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Search on MARC field does not work in Elasticsearch mappings table 08:20 fridolin for Elasticers ;) 08:21 ashimema works OK for me marcelr 09:02 marcelr thx ashimema i saw that davidnind reported the problem too 09:02 marcelr so there must be something? 09:03 davidnind[m] I'm fine signing off other bugs, so maybe something with that specific bug 09:03 marcelr ok 09:04 marcelr after i tried that particular one, i had issue with other patches too 09:04 marcelr but i refreshed the container now 09:04 marcelr will try again 09:05 marcelr yeah same issue again 09:05 davidnind[m] I did a git pull for KTD, and a docker-compose pull as well, but it made no difference - still had the error 09:06 ashimema oh.. this is inside ktd is it? 09:07 marcelr no in my own dev container 09:07 davidnind[m] yes for me 09:07 marcelr it is bug 31883 09:07 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31883 normal, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Failed QA , t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters missing built-in TT filter "trim" causes false warnings 09:07 marcelr it has a unicode issue somewhere 09:08 ashimema okies 09:09 ashimema wierd... 09:09 ashimema there's some funk in the subject of the patch 09:09 ashimema Subject: [PATCH] =?UTF-8?q?Bug=C2=A031883:=20t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters?=... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fhdSunlOLpiFGFHJAquPxkEa>) 09:10 ashimema never seen that sort of thing before 09:10 marcelr i will try to fetch it manually and remove the cruft 09:14 marcelr hmm kind of stubborn thing, i removed the whole title.. but to no avail yet 09:17 ashimema dang 09:17 ashimema annoying 09:19 marcelr he solved 09:19 marcelr it is a git bz issue with unicode cruft on the Bugzilla title and attachment name 09:20 ashimema erm.. 09:20 ashimema it just worked first time for me.. lol 09:20 ashimema I have no idea why 09:20 davidnind[m] marcelr++ 09:20 marcelr version differences? 09:22 ashimema maybe.. 09:23 marcelr ashimema you are interfering 09:23 marcelr now i have the issue again 09:23 ashimema ? 09:24 ashimema â˜¹ï¸ 09:24 marcelr i will remove your stuff 09:24 ashimema ok 09:25 marcelr ashimema: could you forget the former patch and add a qa stamp on the current(!!!) one ? 09:26 ashimema sure 09:27 marcelr great 09:31 Joubu bz attach with and without -e behave differently with the unicode issue IIRC 09:32 marcelr ok i should have tried 09:33 ashimema oh.. i never use -e 09:33 marcelr and i do: git bz attach -e -n $1 HEAD; 09:34 marcelr so thats the cause 09:34 * ashimema should try the puthon3 branch some time soon 09:36 marcelr With -e, allows editing of the attachments on the listed bug 09:36 marcelr which also contained the unicode 09:37 marcelr bbl 09:42 AFperth I have spoken witha few people before because we can't access our library data!! the admin is in Canberra Perth and the person in charged has quit and the black box attached to koha is broken. therefore we can't access our data anymore. can someone tell me how we can retrieve it please? 10:20 paulderscheid[m] morning all 10:24 oleonard o/ 10:34 mtj hi folks, im curious about the gbz attach unicode problems too... 10:35 mtj the problem seems to be a recent thing for me 10:36 mtj i havent done any big upgrades on my dev box in along time 10:37 Joubu it's not a recent problem, it has always been there 10:37 mtj hmm, ok 10:37 ashimema it's why I stopped using -e nearly a decade ago and never looked back I think. 10:38 ashimema i pretty much never got into the habbit of using -e because it worked so infrequently for me 10:38 cait I am constantly using -e 10:38 cait don't have any issues usually 10:38 ashimema I think it got better, but never 100% 10:38 oleonard I just use it because I was told to 100 years ago and I never even knew why 10:38 ashimema I'm in the habbit of looking at bz to add comments myself 10:38 cait it brings up the edit 10:38 cait so you can obsolete and set patch difficulty 10:39 ashimema it auto-obsoletes anyway 10:39 ashimema without -e 10:39 mtj i have an alias to use -e always too 10:39 ashimema so long as patch names match.. which they usually will 10:39 ashimema I can't set 'obsolete' tags on comments via -e (which would be nice) 10:39 cait yeah, but I often do clean-up stuff 10:39 ashimema and I tend to go to the bug on bz to check it uploaded OK then add my comment 10:40 ashimema so -e doesn't win me anything in my workflow 10:40 ashimema I really really really wish there was a way to hide all the 'this was attached' comments.. 10:40 ashimema they drive me mad 10:41 * magnuse never had issues with -e, but uses bz way too infrequently... 10:41 magnuse if i have a catalogue where some records have "place of publication" in 260a and some have it in 264a, and i want to get both into biblio.copyrightdate, should it work to simply map both marc fields to that db field in admin/koha2marclinks.pl? 10:45 cait I hope so :) 10:45 Joubu ashimema: The comments with patches that have been obsoleted are obsoleted (cronjob IIRC), and so are folded 10:48 ashimema I've been doing it manually for ages.. I don't see it happen otherwise 10:48 ashimema so maybe there's a cronjob that's dead? 10:48 cait maybe you are too fast for the cron :) 10:48 * cait heads into a 2 hour meeting.... wish me luck 10:48 cait :) 10:48 Joubu doing manually? 10:49 oleonard I thought I remembered the comments being obsoleted automatically at one time but it has been ages since it worked 10:49 oleonard I thought I asked rangi[m] about it at one time but maybe I misremember 10:50 ashimema as in I go through every bloody comment and add the 'obsolete' tag to it.. 10:50 Joubu There was that as well, but haven't tried it since... https://pastebin.com/c99G9KgG 10:50 ashimema so I can actually read the comments 10:53 * ashimema has recently switched to firefox.. any tips on which extension for using userscripts like that one Joubu ? 10:53 Joubu Greasemonkey 11:05 ashimema ta 11:13 magnuse cait: you hope admin/koha2marclinks.pl should work the way i hope? 11:22 cait magnuse: yes 11:22 cait we map them too 11:36 magnuse cait: doesn't seem to work for me 11:36 oleonard ashimema: Did you mention the other day you were getting 404 errors from the api? 11:37 ashimema Er.. don't think that was me 11:37 ashimema It sometimes means the spec files are stuffed 11:37 ashimema That where I usually start looking. Tail the logs 11:50 oleonard Thanks ashimema, I had downgraded Mojolicious for testing an older Koha 11:50 ashimema Haha, been there, done that 11:50 tcohen o/ 12:03 cait magnuse: hm we didn't use the script, we relaoded the data (one advantage if you are using a union catalogue) 12:05 magnuse cait: ah, and this is an early stage of a migration, so i think we just see what happens next time we load the data 12:13 tcohen hola Joubu cait ashimema oleonard magnuse mtj 12:13 oleonard o/ 12:13 magnuse \o/ 12:38 tcohen thd: do you think we need gmcharlt for the last wiki backup? 12:38 * tcohen wants to prepare for the transitiotn next week 12:38 cait confetti! 12:38 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 12:38 cait super happy 12:45 marcelr o/ 12:46 marcelr hmm why does EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio use append_fields for 952 ? 12:46 marcelr now it is 999 952 12:47 marcelr hmm even more fun 12:47 marcelr git grep EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio C4/Biblio.pm: EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio 12:47 marcelr exported but not existing ? 12:49 tcohen marcelr: we are phasing that out in favour of the REcordProcessor filter 12:49 marcelr ha Koha::Item::_embed_items still does it 12:49 marcelr append 12:49 ashimema Man the UK is such a mess 12:50 tcohen that was an oversight from when I pushed Joubu's stuff 12:50 tcohen ashimema and I are working on getting rid of it on bug 31224 12:50 marcelr do you fix it or should I 12:50 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31224 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Koha::Biblio::Metadata->record should use the EmbedItems filter 12:51 marcelr the routine was refactored into Koha objects 12:51 marcelr i'll let you fix it there 12:51 tcohen marcelr: fix it if you think it is worth 12:51 tcohen the other dev is big and will take more time 12:52 marcelr no i added a comment on 31224 12:52 marcelr it wont crash Koha now 12:53 tcohen LOL 12:53 marcelr but i would like the insert_ordered instead of append_fields though to remove 999 952 in marcxml 12:54 marcelr looks a bit silly 12:54 SupportLibrary[m] Hello. Greetings from Bulgaria. 12:54 marcelr hi SupportLibrary[m] 12:54 * cait waves from Germany 12:55 ashimema Hi 12:55 wahanui hola, ashimema 12:55 * tcohen waves from Argentina 12:55 tcohen ashimema: what's wrong with the UK now? 12:55 * ashimema sadly waves from the mess that is the UK right now 12:56 ashimema Prime minister just quit after a shockingly bad 44 days of being in power 12:57 marcelr ah she left already 12:57 marcelr and now boris again? :) 12:57 ashimema I can't really remember the last time I felt we had a functioning parliament/government.. the coalition 12 years ago maybe? 12:58 ashimema Who knows.. British politics is like watching a poorly funded soap right now.. one mess to another 12:58 marcelr King Charles will stand up now ! 12:58 marcelr and rule the country 12:58 ashimema Haha, 12:59 ashimema I wouldn't rule anything out right now 13:00 marcelr how large is her departure bonus btw ? 13:00 marcelr its a good investment 13:00 SupportLibrary[m] I'm part of a team of enthusiasts and we've been using Koch for a while now at our local library. If it doesn't sound stupid, I would like to ask about a solution to a problem we encountered. It's about editing a record, and specifically when pressing the Settings button, if pushed to disable change framework option 13:02 marcelr tcohen: i might add a tiny patch to replace append_fields if 31224 takes much time 13:41 caroline_catlady SupportLibrary[m], can you elaborate on your problem? you click the Settings button to change the frameowrk and then what happens? 13:50 SupportLibrary[m] When i click this button i want to hide or remove "change the framework" because if i change the framework some fields disappear 13:51 SupportLibrary[m] Example: If I edit a book and change the template to this for example for a CD. If there are fields missing from the CD template but not from the book template, the information that was there will disappear 14:37 marcelr easy signoff? bug 31889 14:37 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31889 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Insert 952 tags in correct order when embedding items 14:38 marcelr bbl 14:55 reiveune bye 15:19 caroline SupportLibrary[m], I don't think there is a way to remove the button or the option. However, I suggest changing your frameworks so that the hidden fields are in an actual tab (not the ignore tab) and the Editor checkbox is unchecked. That way, the information will not be lost if you change frameworks, but the field will not be visible in the editor 15:19 caroline I don't know if that makes sense? 15:20 caroline I you really want to hide the option, I guess you could do it with the InranertUserCSS or IntranetUserJS system preference 15:22 caroline trying to clarify my hidden field explanation... 'ignore' tab will remove the information from the record, but 'Editor' checkbox will only hide the field from the editing form 15:22 caroline (maybe I'm just being more confusing, if so, I apologize!!) 15:53 cait caroline: are you the one to ask to grap the de-DE po files from translate for 22.05 manual? 15:54 cait caroline: i think we had a process, but I forgot it again and it would be great to get the manual on the website updated 15:54 cait grap=grab 15:54 caroline not sure what the process is... ashimema maybe? 15:54 caroline I have to go, but I'll be back later 15:55 cait me too, have a nice day, just in case :) 15:59 ashimema huh 15:59 * ashimema reads back 15:59 ashimema I can't for the life of me remember 16:05 cait similar... I thought there was a form to make a merge request or so? but... url? 16:06 ashimema ah.. yes 16:06 ashimema there is 16:07 ashimema but I'm on a new computer and new browser.. 16:07 ashimema can't remember the 'secret' url 16:11 SupportLibrary[m] <caroline> "Support Library, I don't think..." <- Thank you 16:11 SupportLibrary[m] I will try it 16:35 cait bye all 18:41 davidnind[m] here is the wiki page I wrote a while ago on the process for translating the manual https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_management#Translating_the_manual 18:42 davidnind[m] still not sure what is for steps 5 and 6 18:43 davidnind[m] so maybe I should send a message to koha-translate mailing list/translation manager to clarify? 18:49 caroline I love that one of the steps is "magic happens" XD 19:23 fridolin yellow 19:23 fridolin davidnind[m]: thanks a lot for your signoffs :D 19:31 caroline davidnind[m]++ 20:35 caroline frido or marcel, would you care to share what you did to correct what bug 24387 messed up? Even if it's not applicable to everyone, I could at least use it as inspiration... Were about to upgrade 60+ installations from 21.05 to 22.05 and I'm seriously dreading this 20:35 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Rename News tool 20:45 fridolin caroline: it was entirely manual, deleting and reediting entries 20:46 fridolin you may delete entries before upgrade and recreate them manually after 20:46 caroline damn... I was hoping to avoid the manual stuff 20:53 Mauricio Hello everyone, please someone could helpme with an error when update koha from v19.05 to 22.05. This is the error: "Upgrade to 22.05.04.002 [15:43:43]: Bug 31086 - Do not allow null values in branchcodes for reserves ERROR - {UNKNOWN}: DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot change column 'branchcode': used in a foreign key constraint 'reserves_ibfk_4' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Installer.pm line 739" 20:53 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31086 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Do not allow hold requests with no branchcode 20:57 caroline Mauricio, see bug 31673 20:57 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31673 blocker, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to stable , DB update of bug 31086 fails: Cannot change column 'branchcode': used in a foreign key constraint 20:58 Mauricio thanks! (Y) 21:01 caroline lukeg, when is 22.05.06 coming out? is it next week? 21:04 Mauricio bug 37673 says that the file a/installer/data/mysql/db_revs/220600020.pl need to be edited, but in my directory the 220505000.pl is the lastaone. I do not have 220600020.pl file. 21:04 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=37673 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId 21:04 Mauricio maybe my upgrade is incomplete... 21:05 caroline Mauricio, I don't think the fix is available yet 21:06 Mauricio oh ok. Is there a way that i could complete my upgrade? 21:07 caroline no idea sorry... Someone said they did an sql command and it worked for them https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31086#c34 21:07 huginn` Bug 31086: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Do not allow hold requests with no branchcode 21:08 Mauricio ok i`ll ckeck it now 21:12 Mauricio yes, confirmed, The process continue after SQL. 21:12 Mauricio Thanks Caroline! (= 21:12 caroline yay! 21:32 lukeg caroline: My plan is to release 22.05.06 on 10/24 21:32 caroline lukeg, thanks! Someone asked me, and I said I thought it was next week, but I wasn't 100% sure 21:45 lukeg Its usually the 22nd, but this month that falls on a Saturday so we prefer to wait till a weekday 21:52 Tylathos Hey :) I run into a problem. I can't use the issue stats wizard. I always get an Error Page 500. Anyone else got the problem. (Version: 22.05.05.000)