Time  Nick         Message
22:26 oleonard     lukeg1: Not really!
21:35 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31782 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron lists - patron autocomplete search does not work
21:35 davidnind[m] bug 31782
21:24 lukeg1       davidnind[m]++
21:20 davidnind[m] will do!
21:18 lukeg1       davidnind[m]: Will you file a bug for the auto-complete issue you discovered on patron lists?
20:12 lukeg        oleonard: you about?
19:35 emlam        \quit
19:30 emlam        tuxayo: Thanks! Reading some of the basic guides etc first, but I will keep that in mind
19:15 tuxayo       emlam: If you want to test patches or setup a local development Koha, feel free to also mention me in the chat ^^
18:53 emlam        Thanks!!
18:44 tuxayo       emlam: welcome, don't hesitate to ask your questions here or the koha-devel list
18:43 tuxayo       lukeg++
17:54 emlam        Thank you! :)
17:52 caroline     Here is the list of irc handles of people who are regularly around, if you ever need to ping someone in particular https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
17:49 oleonard     Hi emlam
17:49 lukeg        Welcome, emlam!!!
17:47 caroline     I'm sure you'll find great mentors here
17:46 caroline     welcome emlam!
17:44 emlam        Hello all! I'm new to the Koha community - just joined the Koha team at a library on the US east coast. Looking forward to wrapping my brain around the system and becoming a part of the dev community!
17:36 lukeg        tuxayo, nugged: 29012 is reverted from 22.05.x
17:04 tuxayo       But hopefully the next one will work. I'll send a poll for the date in the next days.
17:04 tuxayo       The 1st patch testing session I did was too close to KohaCon I think, so that's why noone from Northern America showed up.
17:04 tuxayo       bag++ Thanks for calling for help to signoff bugs during your talk in KohaCon  especially to Koha US members.
16:58 tuxayo       👍️
16:58 nugged       ok, time for home tasks then now. 🤗
16:58 nugged       I've set "fixed/invalid" now for 31727 and reverted 29012 to the "assigned" state.
16:57 tuxayo       Happy to see Kevin still around even after the ES 7 patches ^^
16:56 tuxayo       Great thanks.
16:50 nugged       I'll ask the author (Kevin Carnes) to re-do 29012 then.
16:49 tuxayo       Perfect, that's simpler.
16:49 tuxayo       > 31727 not needed at all if no old 29012 code
16:49 tuxayo       nugged: If you hesitate and don't get other feedback, go with a new ticket. Set 29012 as blocked, and dependent on the new ticket.
16:48 nugged       so - tuxayo - or team - pls advise: new ticket or re-use 29012 but obsolete all in 29012?
16:47 nugged       31727 not needed at all if no old 29012 code
16:44 tuxayo       Or just put 29012 back to assigned/in discussion if the comment history of it isn't an issue.
16:43 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31727 critical, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, Needs Signoff , Orphan records in circulation_rules and false positives after attempt to fix values to be empty or zeroes instead of missing
16:43 tuxayo       isn't bug 31727 invalid/won't fix since 29012 wasn't released. Better have a new ticket to not have confusion with the invalid premise of 31727
16:43 tuxayo       > re-create a fully new solution somewhere in 31727
16:43 tuxayo       You might want to start a new ticket to have a simpler comment history. And set 29012 as BLOCKED and having it depend on the new ticket.
16:42 tuxayo       This is still valid and we want to fix it IIUC.
16:42 tuxayo       «Some rules are not saved when left blank while editing a 'rule' line in smart-rules.pl»
16:42 tuxayo       > should we change 29012 status to WONTFIX or INVALID
16:39 lukeg        sorry for the confusion
16:39 lukeg        also making note and will change my message when backporting to "backported to 22.05.x for upcoming 22.05.06 release"
16:38 nugged       lukeg: thanks!
16:37 nugged       (there was an edit to the message, so v2)
16:37 tuxayo       lukeg great :D
16:37 lukeg        tuxayo: I will revert the 29012 patchset from stable today, thanks!
16:37 nugged       tuxayo: so: should we ask oldRMs to change 29012 status to WONTFIX or INVALID and re-create a fully new solution somewhere in 31727 then?
16:36 nugged       tuxayo: so: should we change 29012 status to WONTFIX or INVALID and re-create a fully new solution somewhere in 31727 as not-blocker then I will communicate with the author (Kevin Carnes) and now commenting in
16:36 nugged       tuxayo++
16:33 ashimema     byeeeee
16:33 ashimema     kids calling
16:33 ashimema     and.. with that.. it's time for me to clock of for the evening..
16:33 ashimema     no sure how to proceed there really.
16:33 ashimema     it comments out the css.. in case we still need it when we fix scrolling..
16:33 ashimema     well.. I've added another follow-up to the option 2 on that sysprefs page-section bug..
16:32 ashimema     ah.. okies
16:32 oleonard     ashimema: before
16:32 ashimema     I'm not sure.
16:32 ashimema     is it a staff client ui refresh bug.. or did it happen before that was pushed..
16:32 tuxayo       Indeed, won't happen lukeg and liliputech should revert it soon from 22.05 and 21.11. So it won't be released.
16:32 tuxayo       > if you or others won't let it go into 22.05
16:29 tuxayo       nugged: Would that be good enough? «Backported: Pushed to 21.05.x branch for the upcoming release (21.05.19)»
16:26 tuxayo       I'm immediately changing my phrasing when backporting stuff for oldoldstable and will tell the others RMaint to do the same. Sorry that it triggered unnecessarily work.
16:25 oleonard     ashimema: I noticed that too about the prefs links
16:24 tuxayo       yes, it's simpler!
16:24 tuxayo       > But if it is delayed and not in .deb for the people - ok then we can just re-do both 29012 and 31727 as single solution
16:24 tuxayo       The phrasing we use is confusing. We should say something like "for the upcomming 22.05.06"
16:24 tuxayo       > I acted on as released because "Backported to 22.05.x for 22.05.06"
16:24 tuxayo       nugged:
16:23 nugged       tuxayo: if you or others won't let it go into 22.05 then it's better to never run that atomic update in old (current) version
16:22 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29012 major, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, Pushed to stable , Some rules are not saved when left blank while editing a 'rule' line in smart-rules.pl
16:22 nugged       I acted on as released because "Backported to 22.05.x for 22.05.06" was said there and it was in 22.05 "crude" branch. But if it is delayed and not in .deb for the people - ok then we can just re-do both 29012 and 31727 as single solution without "changing and fix-changing" DB twice because even fix becomes very complicated too and probable of "false positives/even more regressions".
16:22 nugged       > bug 29012 hasn't actually been released.
16:22 nugged       tuxayo:
16:20 wahanui      cait around is cait cait1 cait2 cait3 cait4 cait5
16:20 ashimema     cait around?
15:19 tuxayo       (finding that it causes a regression)
15:18 tuxayo       nugged++ good job on finding it out before it has been released
15:18 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29012 major, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, Pushed to stable , Some rules are not saved when left blank while editing a 'rule' line in smart-rules.pl
15:18 tuxayo       nugged: bug 29012 hasn't actually been released. No need for a releasable data fix. I hope it's not too hard to manually fix on your test libraries.
14:56 huginn`      ashimema: The operation succeeded.
14:56 ashimema     @later tell oleonard the scroll to position bit of bug 23410 appears to be broken?
14:55 ashimema     hugs
14:55 ashimema     i.e. search for a pref, click the 'View all X preferences' link.. it opens the right page/tab, but doesn't scroll the page to subsection.
14:54 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23410 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Add submenus to system preferences sidebar menu
14:54 ashimema     oleonard the scroll to position bit of bug 23410 appears to be broken?#
14:54 ashimema     hummm
14:46 tcohen       marcelr++ # taking care of bugs
14:23 marcelr      bbl
14:23 marcelr      small regression
14:23 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31775 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Show opac_info of single library
14:23 marcelr      bug 31775 is ready for testing :)
13:56 huginn`      Bug 28456: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, Add option to use a WHERE statement in membership_expiry.pl cronjob
13:56 Pascal       Hello, today we tried for the first time to use the --where extension of membership_expiry.pl ( https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28456 ). Using it for example with borrowernumber works, but when I use it the same way with the categorycode I always get an error. Although the categorycode actually exists. Can anyone here reproduce this error?
13:42 tuxayo       AnkeB: there is still time, in parallel I can still catch up on other stuff
13:42 tuxayo       ashimema++ nice email
13:31 AnkeB        tuxayo: Hopefully some more people attended meanwhile. Have fun
13:27 ashimema     done
13:20 ashimema     indeed
13:01 tuxayo       Own name + institution name.
13:00 tuxayo       That could motivate a few :)
12:59 ashimema     Just add a class (or div with class in some cases)
12:58 ashimema     I was contemplating putting a call out on the main lists for people wanting to get their names in the release notes.. loads of easy academy ones now
12:38 tuxayo       AnkeB: hi :) Happy to see you hanging around here. Just when I'm doing a patch testing session with french speakers ^^ (attendance of 1 for now...)
12:34 ashimema     well.. I'm filling up the Academy queue.
12:07 ashimema     : )
12:07 jajm         i like that kind of noise :) thank you for that
12:06 ashimema     sorry for all the noise jajm
11:57 ashimema     team effort now
11:57 ashimema     🙂
11:52 oleonard     No problem ashimema it is to be expected
11:48 marcelr      o/
11:42 ashimema     sorry oleonard ... I'm throwing lots of little bugs your way this morning for opinions and final fixes 🙂
11:06 ashimema     they just haven't gotten to it yet.
11:06 ashimema     it's in the rmaints queue AnkeB
11:06 ashimema     Hi tundumf
10:58 tundunf      hi all!
10:49 AnkeB        ashimema I just corrected the lines manually in my Manual.pm. But it would be good to have the correction in 22.05, if anyone cares to do it :-)
10:43 ashimema     lots of bugs to fix today 😛
10:43 ashimema     morning oleonard..
10:43 ashimema     Correct AnkeB.. it needs backporting
10:30 oleonard     Hi all
10:30 AnkeB        I see now that bugfix for 31465 was pushed to master for 22.11. So in 22.05 it's not yet working.
09:57 marcelr      bbl
09:56 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Link system preference tabs to correct manual pages
09:56 AnkeB        Hm, bug 31465 is marked as pushed to master, shouldn't it be correct then in a recently installed 22.05?
09:52 marcelr      why do I always forget that $dbh->do only wants 1 statement ;)
09:51 marcelr      oops
09:51 cait1        that might be overdoing it....
09:51 * marcelr    sends 3 liter to ashimema
09:49 ashimema     man I need some coffee
09:45 cait1        what does the broken link look like?
09:45 ashimema     bug 31465
09:44 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Link system preference tabs to correct manual pages
09:44 cait1        I thnk martin wat thinksing of bug 31465
09:43 * cait1      waves
09:42 AnkeB        Thanks, can you give me the bug id or a hint what I could search for in the bugs?
09:39 ashimema     I think it's a know bug.. I fixed some things there and I'm not sure the patch has been backported yet..
09:38 AnkeB        Good morning everybody. I just realized there seems to be a dead link when clicking Help from the staff client's Global System Preferences Page in V22.05. This applies to German and English language. Is this a known bug? Should I file a bug?
09:20 ashimema     I liked the ones that are still present in the circ home page now
09:19 ashimema     ooh... was it deliberate to switch the front page icon/buttons back in the staff client ui?
09:00 ashimema     so many bugs 😚
09:00 ashimema     ah yes.. I do
08:41 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30588 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Add the option to require 2FA setup on first staff login
08:41 marcelr      did you still have bug 30588 on your radar ?
08:41 ashimema     morning
08:41 marcelr      hi ashimema
08:30 ashimema     ooh..
07:18 alex_        Hello marcelr
07:05 marcelr      bonjour alex_
06:49 alex_        Bonjour
06:34 marcelr      hi reiveune
06:34 wahanui      salut, reiveune
06:34 reiveune     hello
06:33 marcelr      simple patch
06:33 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31743 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Cannot change my notice language when EnhancedMessagingPreferencesOPAC is off
06:33 marcelr      bug 31743 needs a signoff !
06:30 marcelr      a new look on staff !
06:29 marcelr      hi #koha
06:09 ashimema     Morning
06:08 ashimema     Man it's misty/foggy here
06:08 domm[m]      at least your now moving onto spring & summer :-)
06:00 dcook        Of course I have to run just as the Europeans are coming alive hehe
05:50 domm[m]      mtj: Thanks for the info regarding ElasticSearch 7!
04:05 dcook        Looks like it's usually between 20-40 people..
04:04 dcook        Looks like 40 authors is the most we've ever had in 1 month..
00:31 tuxayo       ? If someone implement version checks? Yes indeed.
00:31 tuxayo       > we will have to ignore the koha.conf ES setting
00:31 mtj          ok, cya tuxayo
00:30 mtj          we will have to ignore the koha.conf ES setting
00:30 tuxayo       Gotta go, thanks mtj for the info. I'll keep that I mind when ES & OS versions topic comes up again.
00:29 tuxayo       Of course.
00:29 tuxayo       > if someone installs a new ES version, they will have to restart memcache :)
00:28 tuxayo       Then the fear of perf issues was raised and memcache wasn't mentioned directly. So that patch version didn't end up merged.
00:28 tuxayo       > problem solved
00:28 tuxayo       > ok patch looks good :)
00:28 mtj          ..and pet a kitten 🐱
00:28 mtj          if someone installs a new ES version, they will have to restart memcache :)
00:27 tuxayo       oh it's that simple 🤦
00:27 tuxayo       > lets use memcache to store the ES version
00:27 mtj          problem solved
00:27 mtj          ok patch looks good :)
00:25 mtj          lets use memcache to store the ES version
00:23 tuxayo       https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=130288&action=diff#a/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/Indexer.pm_sec2
00:23 tuxayo       To get it was already done in a proposal. But the additional work is to not spam it and impact perf. Or to do actual testing to confirm it's an issue. (maybe we complicated the issue a lot without a reason ^^" )
00:23 tuxayo       > if someone works out some code to get the ES version from ES, we can have both versions
00:22 tuxayo       yes
00:22 mtj          its ES 7.11 with the new license, it seems
00:22 mtj          aah, i had forgotten about the ES license change
00:19 tuxayo       It seems OpenSearch 1.x works though.
00:19 tuxayo       Forcing to switch to ES 7 is forcing to switch to a non-libre dependency.
00:19 tuxayo       > do we really want to encourge people to continue to use it?
00:17 mtj          anyhoo, if someone works out some code to get the ES version from ES, we can have both versions
00:13 mtj          answer = no
00:13 mtj          considering ES6 is unsuported from feb 2022, do we really want to encourge people to continue to use it?
00:09 tuxayo       And would better hurry up submitting patches to koha-elasticsearch-icu to have OS 2.X and check if it works
00:09 tuxayo       We might not avoid a version check soon depending on how much ES and OpenSearch diverge. So I might be worried for nothing.
00:08 mtj          but, its also a bunch of extra work :)
00:08 tuxayo       But still need a config switch or a version check.
00:08 mtj          ..and have some clever code to use the correct *::client version
00:07 mtj          we could package/install both *::client versions 6 and 7
00:07 tuxayo       *it was discussed
00:07 tuxayo       Yes, in bug25669 it was discussion but it would be some more work to not spam version requests.
00:07 mtj          ..rather than setting it in a config file
00:06 mtj          its probably possible to get the ES version, from ES itself
00:06 wahanui      tuxayo: sorry...
00:06 tuxayo       wahanui: lol, that looked a legit relevant answer to the context
00:05 wahanui      tuxayo: that doesn't look right
00:05 tuxayo       And change version when dropping ES 6
00:05 tuxayo       Can we stay on a fixed version in our repo to have both ES 6 & 7 support without config need?
00:05 mtj          libsearch-elasticsearch-perl (6.00-1)
00:05 mtj          https://packages.debian.org/buster/libsearch-elasticsearch-perl
00:05 mtj          deb10/buster uses an older v6.00 version
00:04 tuxayo       Ah yes, since ES 6 is EOL
00:04 mtj          newer versions may break etc
00:04 mtj          Elasticsearch::Client::7_0 code seems to work with ES6
00:03 tuxayo       IIUC from your last info, yes there is compat but it's not automagic
00:03 tuxayo       > users are supposed to set their ES version
00:03 mtj          it *seems* to be compatible, but thats just luck, (at the moment)
00:02 tuxayo       mtj is there compat?
00:02 mtj          ..which means you are calling ES6 from the Search::Elasticsearch::Client::7_0 module
00:01 mtj          https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/libsearch-elasticsearch-perl
00:01 mtj          so, if you are using ES6 on deb11, you are using  libsearch-elasticsearch-perl (7.30-1)
00:00 mtj          Search::Elasticsearch::Client::7_0
00:00 mtj          Search::Elasticsearch::Client::6_0