Time  Nick         Message
22:37 nugged       🤗
22:34 tuxayo_      *folks
22:34 tuxayo_      see ya soon folk, bye :)
22:34 nugged       davidnind[m]: twitter case: OK! noted. I'll come for more hints anyway in direct connections. Ok.
22:33 nugged       (sidenote: Ukrainian warriors working on some "deadline" for something to stop and I hope that will be more reasons to meet in person than just Perl and Koha!)
22:33 * thd        likes darkness or at least the idea that I can work late without much disturbance while I can stay awake.  Early rising is an alternative but more difficult with regular late hours when working in person ;)
22:32 nugged       tuxayo_: and yes, we want here in Finland that much as possible people to be in-person, really.
22:32 nugged       ... but guys, I'll tell ya, UTC TZ DST problems ... Meh... say this for Ukraine ppl.
22:32 tuxayo_      nugged++
22:31 tuxayo_      nugged: «to be more in "culmination" point that in just "starting"» Interesting point!
22:31 tuxayo_      he he
22:30 thd          tuxayo_ Flat is what I meant, with everyone starting at more or less the same time irrespective of daylight :)
22:30 nugged       there are "corner and border case issues" then :)
22:30 nugged       > We need the world be flat, that would solve the issues!
22:30 davidnind[m] nugged: let me know if you would like access to the kohails Twitter account (we use Tweetdeck) for posting #KohaCon23 things
22:30 tuxayo_      We need the world be flat, that would solve the issues!
22:29 tuxayo_      thd: «We need the world to function on UTC all together» That doesn't change the issue, I would have to search when the work day start on Australia and NZ. And DST could still be a thing
22:29 nugged       (and we know koha-US loves SIGs :) )
22:29 nugged       <davidnind[m]> - yes, I personally open and that's my plan for Sep-Oct to establish as much as possible communication and coordination to make the most of this event.
22:28 nugged       and yes, please, - check here: https://bit.ly/PerlKohaCon_welcome and then soon we'll start to make social noise
22:28 davidnind[m] nugged: I'm sure koha-US would be happy to add a new SIG(s)
22:27 nugged       and more. That's why we here organizing some social channels to follow and will go round and round on those topics and more to get the best results, as written here - https://intro.perlkohacon.fi/#/ - to be more in "culmination" point that in just "starting" :)
22:26 nugged       also for this I want us to organize some dev- SIGs to work on things we already working but to rise that up to higher level and other people attention (ERM ILL BibFrame and so on like that)
22:25 thd          hard
22:24 thd          Time zones are always a struggle.  We need the world to function on UTC all together :)
22:24 nugged       so, again - dates confirmed, I am working hard to announce further things and get maximum from Perl community as well, and soon (maybe weeks) I will come with detailed vision (days, streams, etc) + I will chase most of us (Koha community core team members and activists) with topics and SIG- invites and so on,
22:24 tuxayo_      I hope using ######info is enough for the script not to break seeing the meeting after the next being planned
22:23 tuxayo_      Thanks all for attending. Sorry, that what is bit of a struggle
22:23 davidnind[m] tuxayo_++
22:22 huginn`      Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_28_september_2022.2022-09-28-21.08.log.html
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22:22 huginn`      Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_28_september_2022.2022-09-28-21.08.html
22:22 huginn`      Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 22:22:49 2022 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
22:22 tuxayo_      #endmeeting
22:22 tuxayo_      ######info Next Oceania-Americas slot meeting: 26 October 2022, 22 UTC
22:22 tuxayo_      #info Next meeting: 12 October 2022, 14 UTC
22:21 davidnind[m] I'm sure someone will
22:21 tuxayo_      let's finally end this
22:21 tuxayo_      davidnind++
22:21 tuxayo_      thanks a lot
22:21 davidnind[m] OK with me
22:21 tuxayo_      or fridolin !
22:21 * fridolin   AFK
22:21 tuxayo_      I can't be sure to chair at 00:00 my time
22:21 tuxayo_      davidnind[m]: can you chair the 26th of october at 11:00 your time?
22:20 thd          6 am in Perth
22:20 davidnind[m] dcook = Sydney, so during his working day
22:20 tuxayo_      new south wales
22:20 fridolin     ok
22:20 tuxayo_      *is
22:19 tuxayo_      davidnind[m]: ah yes, I meant the one where dcook it
22:19 tuxayo_      not yet
22:19 tuxayo_      fridolin « ends on the last Sunday of October»
22:19 davidnind[m] Depends what state, https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+Developers+IRC+Meeting&iso=20221026T2200
22:18 fridolin     this is after DST change in France right ?
22:18 tuxayo_      At 22 UTC it would be 9:00 in Australia and 11:00 in Aotearoa
22:16 tuxayo_      now let's see what it does for Australia
22:16 tuxayo_      Next meeting on this time slot would be 26 october
22:15 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31645 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , flatpickr - update coding guidelines
22:15 davidnind[m] #info Bug 31645 created for updating coding guidelines for flatpickr
22:15 tuxayo_      ok thanks
22:14 thd          Australia changes on 2 October this year.
22:14 davidnind[m] nugged++
22:13 nugged       (don't asking for any time slot changes though :) )
22:13 tuxayo_      And we might get a nice time for dcook
22:13 tuxayo_      ^^
22:13 nugged       1am in Finland :P )
22:13 tuxayo_      Maybe it changed in Australia
22:13 tuxayo_      ok
22:13 davidnind[m] Changed last weekend
22:12 davidnind[m] 10am for us now...
22:12 tuxayo_      *didn't start
22:12 tuxayo_      So the meeting didn't that on 9:00 am for you?
22:12 tuxayo_      Oh, it changed?
22:11 davidnind[m] NZ is now in daylight savings time...
22:11 tuxayo_      For the next meeting in this this timeslot, same hour? When the daylight saving time change in NZ and Australia?
22:10 tuxayo_      I'll get the time for next meeting in the other time slot
22:10 tuxayo_      #topic Set time of next meeting
22:10 tuxayo_      #action tuxayo maybe create a ticket for updating the guidelines about flatpickr
22:07 davidnind[m] Nothing from me....
22:07 davidnind[m] Maybe we should create a bug for that, so that the guidelines are updated - they all mention jQueryUI datepicker..
22:07 tuxayo_      Any other topic before closing?
22:07 tuxayo_      #action tuxayo can for volunteers on the mailing list to «Update coding guidelines with the replacement of jQueryUI Datepicker with flatpickr - introduced in bug 29239. And document the usage in the wiki. cc Aleisha who had trouble with using flatpickr for the detail of what is missing»
22:06 davidnind[m] +1
22:06 tuxayo_      It's hard to get the few people that know the details of flatpickr usage in meeting. Let's move that to the mailing list
22:05 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [OMNIBUS] Replace jQueryUI's timepicker with flatpickr
22:05 tuxayo_      Update guidelines with the replacement of jQueryUI Datepicker with flatpickr - introduced in bug 29239. And document the usage in the wiki
22:04 tuxayo_      #action tuxayo postpone «SQL8 of our coding guidelines state that SQL should not be in .pl, but should be in the module in C4 or Koha. This would mean that SQL in the Koha namespace is allowed and there is no mention of DBIC in the coding guidelines right now. »
22:04 tuxayo_      let's ask on the other meeting slot. It looks straightforward to add that SQL is allowed in DBIC. but «This would mean that SQL in the Koha namespace is allowed» does this mean we should ban SQL from .pm?
22:03 davidnind[m] I have no idea... 🙂
22:02 tuxayo_      next: SQL8 of our coding guidelines state that SQL should not be in .pl, but should be in the module in C4 or Koha. This would mean that SQL in the Koha namespace is allowed and there is no mention of DBIC in the coding guidelines right now.
22:02 tuxayo_      Let's see what we will learn when asking on the list
22:00 tuxayo_      And MySQL 5.7 still has the db increment issue I heard on a past meeting
21:59 tuxayo_      Because that's mostly how I hear about MySQL
21:59 tuxayo_      Maybe we dropped strong support for MySQL years ago? And only kept MySQL 8 on master to catch the strict SQL mode issues
21:59 davidnind[m] Great!
21:58 tuxayo_      I'm raising the topic to know if it should mention it
21:58 davidnind[m] Doesn't mention MySQL...
21:57 davidnind[m] System requirements: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_requirements_and_recommendations
21:57 tuxayo_      #action tuxayo ask on the mailing list « are we supporting MySQL? (either 5.7 or 8.0) - CI only tests MySQL 8 on main/master. »
21:55 tuxayo_      Anyone here know something about our DB support?
21:55 tuxayo_      next: Are we supporting MySQL? (either 5.7 or 8.0) - CI only tests MySQL 8 on main/master.
21:55 huginn`      tuxayo_: The operation succeeded.
21:55 tuxayo_      @later tell ashimema So in the meeting we just highlighted bug 31150 and called for contributions. If you had something else in mind, feel free to put back on the agenda.
21:54 tuxayo_      #action thd give their two cents on bug 31150 in order to tilt the scale to on side.
21:54 thd          ... however, as Joubu identifies _date is problematic when it is not merely a date but actually a date with time.
21:53 tuxayo_      oops
21:53 tuxayo_      #action thd
21:53 davidnind[m] Maybe add as an action for those interested to comment on the bug, and then bring back  to the next meeting?
21:52 tuxayo_      So contributions needed on bug 31150 to settle the matter
21:52 thd          _on is certainly cryptic without context.
21:50 tuxayo_      «We have _on and _date:»
21:50 tuxayo_      «We need to decide a naming for the dates column.»
21:50 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31150 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , _on or _date for DB date columns?
21:50 tuxayo_      Bug 31150 - _on or _date for DB date columns?
21:50 tuxayo_      #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
21:50 huginn`      tuxayo_: The operation succeeded.
21:50 tuxayo_      @later tell tcohen any news about the above? http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2022-09-28#i_2452803
21:49 tuxayo_      #action tcohen draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list
21:49 tuxayo_      I think I meant draft
21:49 tuxayo_      tcohen Date proposal for master→main change and draft of action list
21:49 tuxayo_      #action ashimema will file a bug making Koha::Object::public_read_list throw an exception
21:49 tuxayo_      I dunno
21:49 tuxayo_      ashimema will file a bug making Koha::Object::public_read_list throw an exception
21:48 tuxayo_      #action cait /Katrin to update LTS wiki page with current information from last dev meeting
21:48 tuxayo_      I guess https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/LTS_workflow_proposal
21:47 tuxayo_      what is the wiki page again
21:47 thd          tcohen is probably best reached early in the morning in his time zone when I am often asleep in the same or similar time zone.
21:46 tuxayo_      Katrin to update LTS wiki page with current information from last dev meeting
21:46 tuxayo_      let's drop that
21:46 tuxayo_      liliputech (deferred from previous meetingx3) discuss koha CI (docker image built + manual build) hosting on gitlab instance provided by BibLibre's partner AFI.
21:46 huginn`      tuxayo_: The operation succeeded.
21:46 tuxayo_      @later tell tcohen any news about the above? http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2022-09-28#i_2452788
21:46 tuxayo_      #action tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together
21:45 tuxayo_      tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together
21:45 thd          He may honour some holidays around now.  I honour none but do have another surprise job on, in addition to my regular late and early week job.
21:45 tuxayo_      #topic Actions from last meeting
21:45 tuxayo_      Moving on?
21:45 tuxayo_      thd: that great!
21:44 thd          More likely next week if I catch him at the right hour.
21:44 wahanui      darn tootin' it is.
21:44 davidnind[m] Excellent!
21:44 tuxayo_      wooow
21:44 thd          It could be tomorrow if tcohen appears and is ready.
21:43 thd          The only differences he found in a crawl were obvious updates where content was not current on my testing copy of the database.
21:43 tuxayo_      thd: when can we hope to have the upgrade rolled? Assuming the usual last moment suprises
21:43 tuxayo_      mtj++
21:42 thd          mtj ran some diffs between production and my out of date testing copies of the database.
21:42 thd          Similarly changes in the navigation sidebar which gives separate links to current and obsolete content.
21:41 thd          I modified the AdvancedSearch extension but it would not appear until the cache expired for non-logged in users.
21:40 thd          Problems are about clearing the varnsih Docker container cache after changing a non-content page feature.
21:39 thd          tcohen said that we probably will not use varnish which is fine.
21:39 thd          Also much trouble with varnish caching in my testing.
21:38 tuxayo_      thd++ congrats on getting rid of the blockers
21:38 thd          davidnind[m] testers should be careful not to poke too hard because of low resources there.
21:38 davidnind[m] And then it gets switched over?
21:38 tuxayo_      thd: that's great new
21:38 wahanui      darn tootin' it is.
21:38 davidnind[m] Excellent!
21:37 thd          Essentially nothing but getting together with tcohen who is working on integrating a custom Docker container with Koha container infrastructure.
21:36 davidnind[m] thd: Do you need testers to have a look around? From a quick browse things looked OK to me.
21:36 tuxayo_      thd: what is left before rolling out the upgrade?
21:35 thd          Nginx was always the problem.  The workaround for Nginx requires work.
21:35 tuxayo_      nugged++ thanks for the info
21:35 tuxayo_      ah ok
21:35 thd          They always worked in Apache.
21:35 tuxayo_      thd++
21:35 tuxayo_      thd: great full scale pictures now work :D
21:34 thd          I plan to set everyone to VectorMod as default.
21:34 thd          I finished VectorMod a modified version of the Vector skin allowing people to use either.
21:33 alexbuckley  nugged++
21:33 davidnind[m] thd++
21:33 davidnind[m] nugged++
21:33 thd          Do not poke this too hard as it has minimal resources: https://koha-mw-canasta-test03.agogme.com/ .
21:33 nugged       thd: sorry for scattering threads, I'll some later once you tell I can. Let's go under your lead.
21:32 nugged       and also we have official dates confirmed - from 14 August (premises booked, and lobbies, etc, for 2023 conference)
21:32 thd          I had been worried about resource use.
21:32 thd          with shared single CPU core.
21:31 thd          ES indexing took only 5 min. in 1 GiB RAM.
21:31 nugged       *social
21:31 nugged       and I am working now hard to set up all "socicla channels" environment
21:31 tuxayo_      Sorry, I changed topic too fast
21:31 tuxayo_      thanks nugged
21:31 nugged       https://intro.perlkohacon.fi/
21:31 tuxayo_      Great, it's easy
21:31 nugged       https://bit.ly/PerlKohaCon_welcome
21:31 nugged       (sorry for scattering topics, mates, but) btw, link I see posted above, here some updated "few extra info places" - please consider these two:
21:30 thd          I had previously told tcohen that we did not need ES quickly but it was too easy and too much depends on it.
21:30 thd          Most importantly some extensions are dependent upon ES.
21:30 tuxayo_      So the ugprade of our wiki will introduce ES?
21:29 thd          Wikipedia has used ES for a long time.
21:29 nugged       fridolin: maybe you reconsider?
21:29 nugged       I actully drowning in this and this is something "massive" to happen, so -
21:29 tuxayo_      thd: media wiki uses ES now?
21:29 nugged       yes and it's also now more moves further made now
21:28 tuxayo_      nugged: this is so cool to have both at same time and place
21:28 nugged       (sorry lost my info tag :) )
21:28 nugged       #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI
21:28 thd          ElasticSearch indexing has been working in MediaWiki Canasta testing for the past two weeks.
21:28 tuxayo_      #info https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_22.11_roadmap
21:28 nugged       ah, btw:
21:28 nugged       this one will be "Perl and Koha Conference" so this is unique something "very new",
21:28 tuxayo_      #topic Status of roadmap projects
21:27 tuxayo_      moving on
21:27 tuxayo_      he he
21:27 fridolin     fetch me a T-shirt of PerlCon please ;)
21:27 fridolin     ah what a chance, but i will not be able to be tehre IRL
21:26 tuxayo_      nugged: that's great! :)
21:26 nugged       because don't panic, I (more or less confidently) prognose that all those my and our from-Finland efforts and potentially-to-happen declared things also come into power in upcoming month and this year will be very productive for us in further time - I will have more interest soon from Finnish libraries and some groups will come to help us also because of "KohaCon 2023 and PerlCon which will be all together as one)
21:26 fridolin     ah super
21:25 tuxayo_      fridolin: that's what I do ;)
21:25 davidnind[m] I feel slightly guilty that the Needs QA queue is so big....
21:25 tuxayo_      #info support companies: please relay patch testing sessions to your customers that would be keen to test patch. (announcement in the koha general list)
21:25 fridolin     I see there is life in the french translation ML, you may want to go there fishing for testers
21:25 davidnind[m] I don't think that will happen any time soon... 😀
21:24 nugged       Keep it flowing as it goes, mates! (tuxayo++ tuxayo_++) because -
21:24 tuxayo_      But it's harder than I though to get attendance
21:24 tuxayo_      davidnind: I hope in the end you will have nothing left to test :P
21:23 tuxayo_      Hopefully it will be a good time investement ^^
21:23 davidnind[m] tuxayo_++
21:23 tuxayo_      We tested a few patches and extensively walked through the process
21:23 tuxayo_      And monday a patch testing session in english but only people from Germany and Austria came lol Where are english speaking librarians ^^
21:22 fridolin     we see it in our support
21:22 fridolin     Universities are back on busy time
21:22 fridolin     i mean the current news
21:21 fridolin     but i try to follow the current mood
21:21 tuxayo_      I guided another patch testing session with french librarians but this time attendance was very low. It's a bit worrying.
21:21 fridolin     I didnt do much this month sorry
21:21 tuxayo_      \o
21:21 nugged       o/
21:20 wahanui      qa_team is probably cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook
21:20 tuxayo_      qa_team?
21:20 tuxayo_      #topic Updates from the QA team
21:20 tuxayo_      lucas release stable today I think
21:20 tuxayo_      fridolin: ah great
21:19 tuxayo_      Everything good so far this month.
21:19 fridolin     liliputech told he is on releasing 21.11.12 these days
21:19 wahanui      rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo
21:19 tuxayo_      rmaints?
21:19 tuxayo_      #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
21:18 fridolin     wires++, only use wireless for the FM radio ;)
21:18 tuxayo_      IIUC, no
21:18 tuxayo_      tcohen: arround?
21:18 tuxayo_      #topic Update from the Release manager (22.11)
21:18 tuxayo_      ethernet++
21:18 thd          Uses hard wires whenever possible.
21:18 tuxayo_      Proposal Website for KohaCon 23 https://www.kiwi.fi/display/KK/KohaCon
21:17 thd          Aside from one longish outage using library wifi much better than most conferences at avoiding livestream connection problems.
21:16 tuxayo_      Anything else to announce?
21:15 tuxayo_      super cool the page with videos and slides for the conference
21:15 tuxayo_      What do you mean?
21:15 bag          #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater
21:15 davidnind[m] From a remote perspective (apart from the timezone 😀) things seem to go really well.
21:15 fridolin     food++
21:14 tuxayo_      community++
21:14 tuxayo_      koha-us++
21:14 tuxayo_      thd: there will be certainly one distorion: now I can stop getting worried about rent and food and fearing to have to stop working on Koha
21:14 fridolin     super, ill have a look
21:14 davidnind[m] #info Thanks to koha-US for organising KohaCon22
21:14 tuxayo_      great!
21:13 davidnind[m] #info Individual videos and slides (where available) are now online! https://koha-us.org/2022/09/27/kohacon22-slides-recordings/
21:13 tuxayo_      Anything to announce that doesn't fit better in the other topics?
21:13 tuxayo_      #topic Announcements
21:12 tuxayo_      At a 2% growth per year I expect to consume all the visible universe in 2000 years. Exponentials are great
21:12 thd          tuxayo_ Please avoid pay distorting your perspective :)
21:10 fridolin     ++
21:10 fridolin     tuxayo : Empire strikes back then ^^
21:10 * tuxayo_    is starting to get paid for Koha work!
21:10 fridolin     #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France
21:10 tuxayo_      #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Empire, France
21:09 thd          #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
21:09 davidnind[m] #info David Nind, NZ
21:09 tuxayo_      Refresh it if you had it open
21:08 tuxayo_      #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_28_September_2022#Agenda Today's agenda
21:08 alexbuckley  #info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT, NZ
21:08 tuxayo_      #topic Introductions
21:08 huginn`      The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_28_september_2022'
21:08 huginn`      Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
21:08 huginn`      Meeting started Wed Sep 28 21:08:15 2022 UTC.  The chair is tuxayo_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:08 tuxayo_      #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 28 September 2022
21:07 tuxayo_      let's goooo!
21:07 tuxayo_      ah https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chairing_meetings
21:07 tuxayo_      What is the wikipage with the meeting cheat sheet again?
21:06 thd          I missed tcohen .
21:06 alexbuckley  Hi everyone!
21:06 tuxayo_      ok, I'm in, I need to move some things in the agenda
21:03 thd          ElasticSearch indexing working in MediaWiki Canasta testing for the past two weeks.
21:02 tuxayo_      I'm not at home, I need to get my credential for the wiki etc
21:02 tuxayo_      Great :D
21:02 davidnind[m] Hi tuxayo
21:02 thd          Yes
21:00 tuxayo_      Anyone for the meeting?
21:00 tuxayo_      hi :)
20:51 thd          tcohen: Are you around?
19:09 thd          tcohen: Are you around?
17:01 oleonard     In the redesign: https://snipboard.io/B3mYL2.jpg
16:58 caroline     ah! there it is! I didn't hallucinate it
16:58 oleonard     caroline: https://snipboard.io/xWEuTn.jpg
16:55 caroline     I'm doing a training on the acq module this afternoon... I'll keep my eyes peeled
16:38 oleonard     Yes caroline I think there might be some pages in Acquisitions
16:04 caroline     I don't think it's critical that they be different, I prefer the new unified look personally... but I *think* there may be one instance where there are both in the same page? I'm trying to find it... maybe I dreamt it
16:03 caroline     I'm very late, but I just wanted to chime in on the side menus thing. I think one is a navigational menu (the Circulation > Checkouts one) for different sections and the other (the patron file) is a navigational menu for the same patron... So one goes between sections and the other stays in the same section, but different subsections(?)
16:01 cait         bye all
15:12 oleonard     I find it more difficult to read than the white on green
15:11 oleonard     I know, I just don't think it looks like it does
15:11 jajm         oleonard: black on green pass WCAG AAA test
15:07 oleonard     A screenshot with a possible alternative: https://snipboard.io/kHSALa.jpg
15:07 oleonard     I'm surprised that the black-on-green tabs have enough contrast... It doesn't look like it to me.
15:07 reiveune     bye
15:00 lukeg        oleonard, jajm: I agree with jajm, I think the links in each navigation menu make it clear what the menu is for. The new look is quite nice imo and I don't think the 2 menus need to be visually distinct. IMHO
14:39 domm[m]      Can we run one instance of RabbitMQ and have several different Koha instances use it? Or do we have to have one RabbitMQ instance per Koha instance?
14:27 jajm         oleonard: maybe we clarify by adding a title above the menu ?
14:25 cait         kidclamp: i don't know
14:11 jajm         oleonard: i think it's clear that the patron menu is related to the patron as there are patron specific informations inside the same block, but it's not the case for biblios
14:11 kidclamp     Hey all, just curious if anyone is or knows who the owner of koha-community.slack.com is
14:07 oleonard     https://snipboard.io/a5y8Fb.jpg
14:07 oleonard     cait compare to the differing style of these menus: https://snipboard.io/Ft5blD.jpg
14:04 lukeg        oleonard: I'll have a look ASAP!
14:03 cait         oleonard: i also took a look at your screenshots, but might need more clues
13:58 oleonard     jajm, lukeg: I'd be interested in your opinions about the screenshots above if you get a moment
13:58 oleonard     :)
13:57 cait         you were there with your calming presence and listening :)
13:57 oleonard     I did nothing :D
13:57 cait         yay :) oleonard++
13:56 cait         it is exactly that, adding the process line fixed it
13:56 oleonard     That was going to be my guess cait
13:55 cait         hm I think i got an idea... the include might be missing from the file used for generating the email, a sit's not using the standard header/footer
13:50 cait         how does TT know where to find the code for a Process block?
13:49 cait         I am trying to fix it
13:49 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16522 normal, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Add 773 (Host item entry) to the cart and list displays and e-mails
13:49 cait         it's bug 16522 exploding when trying to send a cart from staff interface
13:49 oleonard     cait you're trying to add something? Or this is a bug with an existing page?
13:47 cait         but I am stuck on the PROCESS and have to admit I am not sure how they work in the first place
13:47 cait         [% END %]
13:47 cait         <a href="[% PROCESS biblio_a_href biblionumber => biblio.biblionumber %]" class="title">
13:47 cait         [% IF ( link ) %]
13:47 cait         so ... we end in biblio-title.inc here:
13:46 cait         In the template I have: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title.inc' link = 1 biblio=BIBLIO_RESULT.HOSTITEMENTRIES %] [% BIBLIO_RESULT.RELATEDPARTS | $raw %]
13:46 cait         or maybe I am just too confused right now
13:45 cait         it looks like we never use the link = 1 in the staff interface elsewhere... so i have no working example
13:44 cait         Template process failed: file error - biblio_a_href: not found at /kohadevbox/koha/C4/Templates.pm line 127
13:44 cait         I have this here imploding in the intranet: <a href="[% PROCESS biblio_a_href biblionumber => biblio.biblionumber %]" class="title">
13:43 oleonard     And yes cait I'd be happy to
13:43 oleonard     I wonder if that's an important distinction to preserve?
13:43 cait         but I will look at your screenshot first :)
13:43 cait         oleonard: could you maybe provide me with a little template help?
13:43 oleonard     https://snipboard.io/ZR4alW.jpg
13:43 oleonard     In the redesign, there is no longer a difference between the menu associated with a patron or biblio and menu which is just navigation: https://snipboard.io/lbaG5n.jpg
13:42 * cait       waves
13:42 oleonard     Hi lukeg
13:40 wahanui      privet, lukeg
13:40 lukeg        hi
11:20 cait         hi marcelr
11:16 marcelr      o/
11:06 wahanui      hi oleopard
11:06 cait         hi oleonard
10:31 oleonard     Hi #koha
09:22 cait         code is here:  https://gitlab.com/joubu/Koha/-/commits/erm
09:22 magnuse_     ah, gotcha. a bug might not be a bad idea though, as a "placeholder"
09:21 cait         https://tree.taiga.io/project/joubu-koha-erm/kanban
09:20 cait         all on the kanban
09:20 cait         don't think there is a bug
09:11 magnuse_     i can't seem to find the erm bug, though...
09:10 magnuse_     :-)
09:08 cait         yes... I chose to ignroe that :)
09:07 magnuse_     on https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ the "erm sandbox" links to the bug for the staff client redesign...
09:05 cait         Discussion happens here. https://github.com/jajm/koha-staff-interface-redesign/issues
09:03 * magnuse_   too
09:00 cait         I think it might be good
09:00 cait         I thnk final decision has not been made, tcohen woudl be the one to ask
09:00 magnuse_     and are we still aiming to have it in 22.11?
08:59 magnuse_     awesome, thanks!
08:59 cait         magnuse_: https://staff-gui.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ shoudl be ready now
08:56 wahanui      cait: I forgot https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/
08:56 cait         wahanui: forget https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/
08:54 wahanui      https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ is broken
08:54 cait         https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/
08:54 cait         ah, I see it got deleted, I will make one
08:53 cait         just don't forget to build CSS
08:53 cait         biblibre sandboxes has a bit of an older versio, but you shoudl be able to create a new one the tandard way
08:53 cait         magnuse_: yes and no
08:51 magnuse_     is the staff client redesign still available in a sandbox somewhere?
08:25 cait         hello #koha
08:21 magnuse_     kia ora ashimema
08:21 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Automatic linking in guided reports
08:21 magnuse_     hooray for bug 5697!
08:21 ashimema     morning
06:41 reiveune     hello
06:10 wahanui      privet, alex_
06:10 alex_        Bonjour
04:58 saa          we could see several logs where at different places it is mentioning no such column
04:58 saa          AH01215: DBIx::Class::Row::store_column(): No such column 'discount' on Koha::Schema::Result::Item at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Object.pm line 79: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl, referer: http://kohaadm
04:56 saa          can anyone figure out what could be the issue
04:56 saa          i had sent email to group as well but did not receive any reply
04:56 saa          AH01215: Use of uninitialized value $origquantityrec in numeric gt (>) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl line 80.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl, referer: http://kohaadmin.ncl.res.in/cgi-bin/koha/acqui/orderreceive.pl?ordernumber=2575&invoiceid=257 [Wed Sep 28 10:11:52.542073 2022] [cgi:error] [pid 19438] [client 172.16.2.37:31232] AH01215: DBIx::Class::Row::store_column(): No such column 'invoicenumber' on K
04:55 saa          [Wed Sep 28 10:11:52.496940 2022] [cgi:error] [pid 19438] [client 172.16.2.37:31232] AH01215: Use of uninitialized value $origquantityrec in numeric gt (>) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl line 80.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl, referer: http://kohaadmin.ncl.res.in/cgi-bin/koha/acqui/orderreceive.pl?ordernumber=2575&invoiceid=257 [Wed Sep 28 10:11:52.542073 2022] [cgi:error] [pid 19438] [client 172.16.2.37:3
04:55 saa          Our acquisitions is throwing error while receiving and adding item and here is log
04:55 saa          GM