Time Nick Message 22:04 thd tcohen: ElasticSearch indexing for the Wiki worked using 1 GB of RAM and reindexed the wiki in less than 5 min. inside the Canasta Docker container. 19:00 tuxayo lukeg around? 18:25 thd tcohen: This morning as the meeting was ending I discovered that while Canasta may have automatically set 'db' for a newly created database name it used mediawiki as a database name restored from a dump. The database connection problem which I had last night was for wrong database name. 17:39 wajasu i did find a nice article that you can configure in yout git config what that master/main is called. 17:38 wajasu nice democratic voting. rename master to main. just don't rename it ever again. i'm getting to old to have the rug pulled out from under me when I get to each repo to develop. 16:37 oleonard Sorry for missing 99% of the meeting, folks, pretty distracted here today 15:51 cait bye all! 15:39 reiveune bye 15:37 tuxayo Ho this is bad, ok I'll use ##action to still have it but to not mess thing 15:37 tuxayo «it does get parsed too :)» 15:36 tuxayo mtj: 5.7 there is still 1 year of upstream support but if no one asks for it we can not support it and even discourage it due to autoincrement issues. 15:35 cait by the meetings script to create the new wiki page 15:35 cait it does get parsed too :) 15:35 tuxayo Maybe that breaks stuff? ^^" 15:34 tuxayo Not for it to be parsed. 15:34 tuxayo The goal is to find it next meeting easily in the logs just to copy paste. 15:34 tuxayo «hm hope that works in the format» 15:34 cait tcohen: can you run meeting script? 15:33 cait yep thanks for attending :) 15:33 tuxayo cait++ thanks for co chairing 15:33 tuxayo Thanks all for attending 15:33 cait hm hope that works in the format 15:33 huginn` Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_14_september_2022.2022-09-14-14.11.log.html 15:33 huginn` Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_14_september_2022.2022-09-14-14.11.txt 15:33 huginn` Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_14_september_2022.2022-09-14-14.11.html 15:33 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Sep 14 15:33:25 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:33 tuxayo #endmeeting 15:33 tuxayo #info Next Americas-Europe slot meeting: 12 October 2022, 14 UTC 15:33 tuxayo Let's go with it for now 15:31 tuxayo Next meeting at this timeframe 12 october 14 UTC? (same hour) 15:31 tuxayo Wait before ending 15:31 tuxayo #info Next meeting: 28 September 2022, 21 UTC 15:30 cait the problem is, if the meeting script doesn't finish, the wiki is not updated witht he meeting minutes either 15:30 wahanui cait: i'm not following you... 15:30 cait wahanui: feeling the same way 15:30 tuxayo Let me check the last meeting 15:30 tuxayo Ok 28 September then 15:30 cait so that woudl be after 15:29 wahanui next week is unknown for me. 15:29 cait next week 15:29 tuxayo When is KohaCon again? 15:29 cait yeah, different people running the script had issues with it lately 15:29 cait 28 September 2022 15:29 tuxayo I think David N had to update the calendar manually 15:29 tuxayo «we shold also check if the calendar has updated after the meeting script has been run» 15:29 cait 2 weeks wednesday? 15:28 cait #topic Set time of next meeting 15:28 tuxayo mtj: too late :P 15:28 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [OMNIBUS] Replace jQueryUI's timepicker with flatpickr 15:28 tuxayo #action tuxayo postpone «Update guidelines with the replacement of jQueryUI Datepicker with flatpickr - introduced in bug 29239. And document the usage in the wiki» 15:28 mtj tuxayo: i think tcohen said mysql 5.x has some nasty autoincrement problems 15:27 tuxayo #action tuxayo postpone « SQL8 of our coding guidelines state that SQL should not be in .pl, but should be in the module in C4 or Koha. This would mean that SQL in the Koha namespace is allowed and there is no mention of DBIC in the coding guidelines right now. » 15:27 cait tuxayo++ 15:27 cait we shold also check if the calendar has updated after the meeting script has been run 15:27 tuxayo #action tuxayo postpone « Are we supporting MySQL? (either 5.7 or 8.0) - CI only tests MySQL 8 on main/master. » 15:27 tuxayo I'll do it 15:27 cait ok :) 15:26 tuxayo Yes, postpone all the rest 15:26 cait postpone mysql? 15:26 tuxayo CI seems also 15:26 cait ok 15:26 tuxayo ES7 topic closed 15:26 tuxayo #info Advertise support for ES7 for all branches on 22.11 release. Or sooner if ES7 real world feedback is enough in the meantime. 15:25 mtj tuxayo: sounds like a good plan to me 15:24 tuxayo So that people that will stay stuck on 21.05 know that ES7 is supported in case of new ES security release. 15:24 * tcohen goes back downstairs 15:23 ashimema great minds 15:23 tuxayo mtj: Is that ok we aim to advertise ES7 for 22.11 release (and one all branches) and do it sooner if we get real world feedback. 15:23 tcohen ashimema: just got back upstairs with that thought LOL 15:21 tuxayo ashimema: It doesn't look like it would help. Not much has to be done locally by people having repos. 15:21 tuxayo And down to 21.05 15:21 ashimema dare I raise it.. but would switching from master to main also serve as a good juncture to finally carry out the repository split we've been considering for years 15:20 mtj #info good news is we do have ES7 tests passing on 22.05 and 21.11 15:20 tuxayo 2022-02-10 actually 15:18 tuxayo ES 6 should be discouraged for all supported branches as soon as we announce ES 7 I think. Because ES 6 is not maintained since more than a year I think? 15:18 tuxayo «we suggest ES6 on koha-22.05 with deb10» 15:18 mtj #info perhaps we suggest ES6 on koha-22.05 with deb10, and ES7 on koha-22.11 with deb11 15:17 tuxayo Not yet, it's still unclear 15:17 tuxayo «is there something we should #info» 15:17 tuxayo mtj: I'm not sure there is that much choice for a lot of implementer that it's useful to suggest a precise conbination. 15:16 cait bit lost on this topic 15:16 cait is there something we should #info? 15:16 mtj ...and we suggest ES7 on koha-22.11 with deb11 15:15 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31471 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Duplicate check in cataloguing doesn't work with Elasticsearch 15:15 cait we found bug 31471 testing package installation and kohadevbox - not sure if it relates to version, but seemed a good time to get some attention :) 15:15 mtj perhaps we suggest ES6 on koha-22.05 with deb10 15:15 tcohen *an old distro version support* 15:14 tcohen I've gotta leave to take kids to school. Just a last comment: I'm favor of completely deprecating a distro support for new releases if not doing so would drain our energies 15:14 tuxayo I recall it was mentioned for ES 7 (and OpenSearch also I guess): A few instances using it in production to confirm nothing major is wrong. 15:13 mtj cait: all tests are passing now, so just updating doco and announcements 15:12 cait mtj: can you outline what is missing to achieve that? 15:12 tcohen +1 15:11 mtj #info i think we should aim to have koha 22.11 with ES7, running on deb11 and higher 15:11 tuxayo If people are motivated switch to community hosted, why not. 15:10 tuxayo This dates from the time it was uncertain for Gitlab.com 15:10 tuxayo «what would be the benefits compared to using Gitlab.com» 15:10 tuxayo It's about calling for volunteer to use it in production 15:09 mtj no :) 15:09 cait unless ES7 is a simple yes or no :) 15:09 cait sounds good to me 15:09 tuxayo last topic about the CI stuff and we postpone reste? 15:08 tuxayo #action tcohen Date proposal for master→main change and draft of action list 15:07 tcohen yes 15:07 tuxayo tcohen: action for next meeting to have a date for the switch and list of stuff to change on that moment? 15:06 tuxayo tcohen++ 15:06 mtj tcohen++ 15:06 tcohen I'm doing it 15:06 mtj tcohen: gitlab may allow us to use more 'runners', but we might hit limitations with gitlab too 15:06 cait who is taking the hat? 15:05 cait aah right! 15:05 tuxayo Who to volunteer to coordinate the change? 15:05 cait so about the next topics? 15:05 tuxayo #agreed Renaming master branch to main 15:05 cait (remembering to checkout main) 15:04 cait my muscle memory will make this terrible for a whiel :) 15:04 mtj tcohen: re gitlab versus self-hosted - im not too sure of differences 15:04 tuxayo My guess is likely not much after fixing all CI jobs. Locally it's about reminding to checkout main instead of master and deleting the local master. Which might cause some submission of patches that don't apply due to people not knowing/forgetting the change. The RMaint scripts should be ok. 15:04 tuxayo «how much this woudl disrupt workflows» 15:04 cait coudl those be postponed or is there something that needs resolving urgently? 15:04 tuxayo Last minute call to some people made me wait a bit :) 15:04 cait we do have quite a bit more topics but are over time already 15:03 huginn` Yes (6): cait, oleonard, ashimema, tuxayo, tcohen, thd 15:03 huginn` Voted on "Renaming master branch to main?" Results are 15:03 tuxayo #endvote 15:03 cait end vote? 15:02 oleonard #vote Yes 15:01 tcohen bag, kidclamp, khall, lukeg 15:00 tuxayo last seconds to vote 15:00 tuxayo k 15:00 cait tuxayo: got to step out for a moment 14:59 ashimema #vote Yes 14:58 thd #vote Yes 14:58 tcohen #vote Yes 14:58 cait #vote Yes 14:58 tuxayo #vote yes 14:58 tuxayo Thanks cait 14:58 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:58 huginn` Begin voting on: Renaming master branch to main? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Another_name_would_be_way_better, Abstain. 14:58 tuxayo #startvote Renaming master branch to main? Yes, No, Another_name_would_be_way_better, Abstain 14:57 cait the typo in abstain? 14:57 huginn` Voted on "Renaming master branch to main?" Results are 14:57 tuxayo #endvote 14:57 tuxayo oh no 14:57 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:57 huginn` Begin voting on: Renaming master branch to main? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Another, name, would, be, way, better, Asbtain. 14:57 tuxayo #startvote Renaming master branch to main? Yes, No, Another name would be way better, Asbtain 14:55 cait you :) 14:55 tuxayo ok 14:55 cait tuxayo: yo or me? 14:55 tcohen let's make a vote please 14:55 cait oh right 14:55 tcohen about mtj's comment, sorry 14:54 cait tcohen: isn't that a different topic? 14:54 tuxayo So #agree about renaming "master" to "main"? 14:54 tcohen is a good question 14:54 cait happy to help with wiki changes when triggered to do so 14:54 tcohen what would be the benefits compared to using Gitlab.com 14:53 cait I am not sure what all is involved and how much this woudl disrupt workflows - so happy to just follow someone taking the lead really 14:53 ashimema I'd just go for it 14:52 mtj #info i'll aim to chat to arthur about the koha CI stuff on AFI 14:52 ashimema Worth a global search on master in the wiki 14:52 tuxayo Is main okay enough to go with it or does someone feel like doing a poll between that and the other choices? 14:51 cait like have some easy to go instructions for people like me what to change on local repos etc. :) 14:51 cait what i'd like is make sure we have all things working still... 14:51 cait I am ok with it too 14:50 mtj 'main' does seem to be a newish popular choice, so... im happy with that :) 14:49 ashimema Expplanation 14:49 tcohen it's Gitlab's default 14:49 ashimema But most Devs will understand without any explanting 14:49 ashimema I find both main and trunk a little ambiguous 14:48 ashimema Dev is also fine with me 14:48 tuxayo Indeed 14:48 tuxayo «main was some kind of new standard?» 14:48 cait will be so happy to have something to point people to :) 14:48 cait mtj++ 14:48 mtj #info im working on a wiki doc to fix API proiblems, will upload today 14:48 ashimema Mmm 14:48 ashimema main is good.. 14:48 cait because it eplains a bit better - but was told main was some kind of new standard? 14:47 cait I also liked dev or development as a suggestion 14:47 tuxayo main gets the most support. Catalyst uses that since a 1year+ and no confusion issue in day to day usage. 14:47 cait it might need quite a lot of changes in scripts etc so better to do that early cycle 14:47 mtj i bumped into a security bug recently, will log a bug 14:46 cait I thnk if we do it, maybe at the beginning of the cycle 14:46 * tcohen likes 14:46 cait heh 14:46 cait Rename "master" branch - suggestion: main 14:46 tuxayo «Renaming "master" branch. To "main" for example» 14:46 tuxayo #action ashimema will file a bug making Koha::Object::public_read_list throw an exception 14:46 cait #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 14:46 tuxayo I moved it 5 min ago so juste refresh 14:45 tuxayo I forgot to move it 14:45 cait ok, so maybe we move? 14:45 cait hm we do have it int he next section too 14:45 tuxayo yes it is 14:45 cait I think this could have been a topic actually 14:45 cait rename the master branch to 'main' 14:45 ashimema Will do once gone from school run 14:44 ashimema But happy to submit making it their an exception 14:44 tuxayo ok 14:44 cait ashimema will file a bug making Koha::Object::public_read_list throw an exception 14:44 ashimema I can't remember what we discussed around it.. oops 14:44 tcohen consider the action ended 14:44 tcohen I will go with Martin's idea of making it raise an exception 14:43 cait do we have a bug number for that one? 14:43 tuxayo next: «tcohen will make a counter proposal about public_read_list() » 14:43 cait ah right 14:43 tuxayo #action Katrin to update LTS wiki page with current information from last dev meeting 14:43 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 14:43 huginn` cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 14:43 cait @action cait to update LTS wiki page 14:42 cait I am sorry, I missed doing that 14:41 tuxayo next: «Katrin to update LTS wiki page with current information from last dev meeting» 14:41 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 14:41 tuxayo @later tell liliputech any news about that? http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2022-09-14#i_2450094 14:41 tuxayo #action liliputech (deferred from previous meetingx3) discuss koha CI (docker image built + manual build) hosting on gitlab instance provided by BibLibre's partner AFI. 14:40 cait next: liliputech (deferred from previous meetingx2) discuss koha CI (docker image built + manual build) hosting on gitlab instance provided by BibLibre's partner AFI. 14:40 tuxayo ok 14:40 cait follow-up pushed to master 14:40 ashimema Done 14:40 tuxayo So it need a followup? 14:40 ashimema Yup 14:40 tuxayo "introduced warning" 14:40 ashimema I think I did that one 14:40 cait RESOLVED fixed... done? 14:39 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28854 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, RESOLVED FIXED, Add ability to create bundles of items for circulation 14:39 tuxayo «ashimema needs to remove an introduced warning on bug 28854 tests (or test for its existence) » 14:39 cait joonas++ 14:39 tuxayo joonas++ 14:39 ashimema joonas++ 14:38 tcohen joonas++ 14:38 cait ups 14:38 tcohen also 14:38 cait #topic Actions from last meeting 14:38 tcohen that's all, thanks everyone for the great submissions 14:38 cait ready to move on? 14:37 ashimema Awesome 14:37 cait team++ 14:37 cait great news overall! 14:37 tcohen absolutely, it should be submitted by the end of the week 14:37 ashimema Will be much easier to fully reviews once we have a simple configuration ui 14:37 cait #info OAuth2/OIDC work is progressing, see https://gitlab.com/thekesolutions/Koha/-/commits/oauth_client 14:37 ashimema I've reviewed that one and it's all pretty solid looking to me 14:37 tcohen wow, time flies! 14:36 cait tcohen++ 14:36 cait thx 14:36 tcohen ok, I will 14:36 tcohen That branch is not expected to be polished :-D 14:36 cait I had been asked about that one :) 14:36 cait maybe also note ont he bug? 14:36 tcohen working on the login form right now 14:36 tcohen https://gitlab.com/thekesolutions/Koha/-/commits/oauth_client 14:36 tcohen Not on the roadmap, but OAuth2/OIDC can already be tested, though it has on UI and the oauth providers need to be configured using the API <.< 14:35 ashimema I need to get back on to it.. made lots of progress then went on vacation ;) 14:34 cait #action tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together 14:34 tcohen ashimema: anything to say about availability/policy in the Koha::* namespace 14:34 ashimema ++ 14:34 tcohen ok 14:34 cait :) 14:34 cait do you want me to action you for calling that day? 14:34 cait #info Rewrite of C4::Biblio and C4::Items is progressing with some bigger patches pushed lately 14:33 tcohen CSRF prevention: we should do a 'CSRF day' in which we all chat about it, test it to make sure all is covered, and push it 14:33 cait #info ERM Any Vue experts: Please have a look at the ERM development 14:33 tcohen lots of things already in master and old code removed 14:32 tcohen C4::Biblio and C4::Items refactoring has moved steadily 14:32 cait #info Task queue: is moving along: API for jobs info is NQA, moving MARC import is PQA 14:32 tcohen About the ERM and Vue, I've asked Agustin to look at the Vue integration done on that development. Any other Vue expert please take a look 14:32 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , New design for staff interface 14:32 cait #info Staff interface redesign (bug 30952) is being worked on intensely. You can use patches on bug to set up a sandbox, issues for the branch are tracked on github: https://github.com/jajm/koha-staff-interface-redesign/issues (lots of screenshots to see) 14:31 thd The bug fix was a newly introduced bug and trivial for moving some code a few lines. 14:31 tcohen moving stage MARC import into the task queue is PQA, we are doing great 14:31 tcohen We've made good progress here. The important stuff has moved, adding an API for displaying jobs info is NQA 14:30 cait #info Wiki update is to continue ASAP - thd fixed another error and we hope for news very soon 14:30 tcohen * Task queue 14:30 ashimema +1 14:29 thd I have also been testing MediaWiki Canasta Docker container but do not have sufficient experience working with Docker containers. 14:29 cait we have a bunch on the actions from last meeting today - maybe only touch those that have news 14:29 tcohen OK, yeah 14:29 * tcohen is opening the roadmap, sorry 14:28 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 14:28 ashimema Excellent 14:28 tcohen ASAP 14:28 tcohen the plan is to load it in https://wiki.test.koha-community.org 14:28 mtj thd++ 14:28 * ashimema had totally failed at working on roadmap as a priority this cycle 14:28 tcohen thd provided an export of the migrated data, which he also fixed yesterday 14:28 cait I am keen to start properly categorizing wiki pages once we got the new editor for it :) 14:27 cait is it a matter of finding another date now? 14:27 tcohen I'm catching up with things after being absent-ish last week 14:27 mtj i have been AWOL for a bit re: wiki stuff, will have a catchup with thd 14:26 thd I fixed a bug for generating the postupdate database. 14:26 thd I fixed a bug for generating the postmigration database. 14:26 cait yes, maybe start with wiki migration 14:25 cait roadmap update? :) 14:25 tuxayo thd, tcohen , mtj, anothing about the wiki migration 14:25 cait you are jsut on time 14:25 tcohen hi all 14:25 cait perfect 14:25 tuxayo #info https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_22.11_roadmap 14:25 cait do you have the link by chance? 14:25 tuxayo #topic Status of roadmap projects 14:24 cait move on? 14:24 cait in other news... QA team please QA and testers please test :) 14:24 cait ah missed that in the bug noise 14:24 tuxayo So it's okay 14:24 tuxayo I infoed the next one 14:24 cait tuxayo: do you want to info something about your patch testing session? 14:23 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11808 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Needs Signoff , When searching for a cardnumber in the intranet, also try to search for it on the LDAP server if one is configured and add/update user 14:23 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29930 normal, P5 - low, ---, janik.hilser, Needs Signoff , Auth with LDAP: Update tag leads to unwanted updates 14:23 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, janik.hilser, BLOCKED , Cardnumbers of patrons created using LDAP Replication not using autoMemberNum if configured 14:23 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add option to send WELCOME notice for new patrons added at first login via LDAP/SAML 14:23 cait LDAP patches are specifically bug 30646, bug 17215, bug 29930 and bug 11808 14:23 tuxayo #info monday 26th, patch testing session: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2022-September/058422.html 14:22 ashimema Glad your patch testing sessions are going well tuyaxo 14:22 cait #info QA Team is down another person with kohaputti leaving - thanks a lot for everything! You'll be missed! 14:22 ashimema Have a feeling they are 14:22 ashimema Are those ones I've already touched? 14:22 tuxayo Patch testing session with french speakers last week had okay results compared to the time spend. Let's see how it goes with english speakers. 14:21 cait #info QAM is looking for some topic expert for LDAP - we got about 4 bugs waiting both queues since forever and I am calling for help! 14:20 cait (and more) 14:20 cait Riiiiight, that's me :) 14:20 wahanui qa_team is probably cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook 14:20 tuxayo qa_team? 14:20 tuxayo #topic Updates from the QA team 14:20 cait move on? 14:20 wahanui cait: I forgot liliputech 14:20 cait forget liliputech 14:20 wahanui somebody said liliputech was not around - so I think we'll postpone that one again 14:20 cait liliputech? 14:19 tuxayo Otherwise, nothing much to say. 14:19 tuxayo Need some catch up for oldoldstable/21.05.x. 14:19 tuxayo ^^ 14:18 cait i think I have seen tuxayo ... 14:18 wahanui rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo 14:18 tuxayo rmaints? 14:18 cait yep 14:18 tuxayo #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:18 tuxayo Let's bring back of the topic later if they show up 14:18 cait tcohen: around? 14:18 tuxayo #topic Update from the Release manager (22.11) 14:17 tuxayo k 14:17 cait tuxayo: shall we move on? 14:16 tuxayo :D 14:16 cait anyone else? :) 14:16 cait #info National Library of Finland to host KohaCon23 in Helsinki, Finland! 14:16 cait #link https://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon22/ KohaCon22 website - presentations will also be streamed to YouTube 14:15 cait #info KohaCon next week! If you are attending, feel free to add yourself to arrivals and departures on the wiki: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon22_Social 14:15 tuxayo Anything to announce that doesn't fit more the other topics? 14:15 liliputech #info Arthur Suzuki, BibLibre, France 14:15 thd yes mtj 14:15 cait #topic Announcements 14:15 mtj hi thd, perhaps we can chat about wiki stuff after meeting? 14:15 cait moving on.... :) 14:15 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 14:14 mtj hi folks, im about-ish 14:14 cait maybe anoter minute 14:14 wahanui i guess qa_team is cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook 14:14 tuxayo qa_team? 14:14 wahanui i heard qa_team was cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook 14:14 cait qa_team? 14:14 wahanui rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo 14:14 tuxayo rmaints? 14:14 wahanui i am a conch 14:14 cait hm wahanui? 14:14 tuxayo #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Limited, France 14:13 cait qa_team 14:13 tuxayo ok cait :) 14:13 * ashimema is on the school run so excuse the mobile typos 14:13 tuxayo ↑↑ agenda just updated so reload if you had it 14:13 cait we can work together :) 14:13 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK 14:13 tuxayo #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_14_September_2022 Today's agenda 14:12 tuxayo * :) 14:12 tuxayo If you want to have a chillier meeting, I can : 14:12 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:12 paulderscheid[m] #info Paul Derscheid, LMSCloud GmbH, Munich, Germany 14:12 cait want to take over tuxayo? 14:12 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:12 cait Please introduce yourself using #info 14:12 huginn` Current chairs: cait tuxayo 14:12 cait #chair tuxayo 14:12 cait #topic Introductions 14:11 tuxayo cait: yes 14:11 tuxayo Sorry, a bit late to open everyhting. 14:11 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_14_september_2022' 14:11 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:11 huginn` Meeting started Wed Sep 14 14:11:54 2022 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:11 cait #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 14 September 2022 14:11 cait I can try chairing, give me another minute 14:10 thd Not awake but around. 14:10 paulderscheid[m] o/ 14:10 thd Yes 14:09 cait anyone around for ht emeeting? 14:08 cait tuxayo: are you chariing? 14:08 cait jajm: I can't spedn more time today - but can try to come back to it tomorrow 14:07 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , New design for staff interface 14:07 jajm cait: i think i won't submit another patch today for bug 30952, so if you want to reset your sandbox, it's a good time to do so ;) 14:07 cait oh meeting time 14:06 ashimema bbiab 14:06 ashimema I'll send my apologies now.. gotta go on the school run unexpectedly as the other half is running late. 14:06 ashimema yes.. 14:06 ashimema ooh.. is there a meeting any minute? 14:05 ashimema hola 14:05 tuxayo Hi 14:05 tuxayo He 13:59 thd tcohen: Are you around? 13:43 mtj https://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging/pool/main/libs/libsearch-elasticsearch-perl/libsearch-elasticsearch-perl_6.81-1-koha1_all.deb 13:42 mtj ill wait for tests to finish before i push 13:42 mtj https://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging/pool/main/libs/libsearch-elasticsearch-perl/ 13:42 mtj magnuse: youy can grab v6.81 from here, and install manually... 13:40 magnuse mtj++ 13:40 magnuse sorry, i gotta run, will try again tomorrow 13:40 magnuse ah, you didn't push yet :-) 13:39 magnuse (after apt-get update) 13:39 magnuse mtj: still getting "Candidate: 6.00-1" from apt-cache cpolicy? 13:29 mtj patch was pushed, but ES package wasnt updated from 6.00 to 6.80 13:28 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25669 normal, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, Needs documenting , ElasticSearch 6: [types removal] Specifying types in put mapping requests is deprecated (incompatible with 7) 13:28 mtj its related to bug 25669 13:27 mtj magnuse: ill push up the 6.80 package, just testing.. 13:23 magnuse mtj: ^ 13:23 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "More details about "missing" Search::Elasticsearch" (36 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14436 13:20 mtj ok ta 13:14 magnuse ...is what is in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list 13:14 magnuse mtj: deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha 22.05 main 13:13 magnuse mtj: yeah 13:13 cait ah mtj *hands over* 13:13 mtj magnuse: you are installing from koha repo? not koha-staging? 13:13 cait and I think you got to install elastic seaparate from Koha as it's not mandatory yet? 13:13 cait but then the warning is right, isnt't it? 13:09 magnuse cait: i would think so 13:09 mtj magnuse: hiya.. 1 tic 13:08 cait hm isn't 6.0 lower than 6.8? 13:07 magnuse hiya liliputech 13:07 magnuse huh, trying to install 22.05 with debian packages on ubuntu 20.04. the webinstaller says i have no Search::Elasticsearch and need "Minimum version: 6.80". apt-cache policy says i have 6.00-1 of libsearch-elasticsearch-perl. what am i missing? mtj? 13:07 cait new stange thing... pull downs on advanced search, my coworkers swear it#s a different font? 13:05 cait hi liliputech 13:03 wahanui hi koha! is probably there a table in which i can see if a borrower has borrowed any books (or if library lended out any books) ? 13:03 liliputech hi koha! 12:33 cait jajm: the idea to move there... 12:33 cait jajm: i think the extra filters is good 12:29 mtj hola tcohen 🷠12:26 tcohen hola mtj cait 12:03 tcohen hola #koha 11:49 cait mtj: you'd do me a great favor 11:48 jajm should we move all secondary inputs into the "extra" filters area then ? 11:42 oleonard The new search bar design works better to accommodate multiple fields but it's still unusable if you have both IntranetAddMastheadLibraryPulldown and IntranetCatalogSearchPulldown enabled (and your browser isn't maximized) 11:39 oleonard jajm: I still like the original design with centered table headers and columns but it only works if you can designate certain individual columns as being left-aligned. https://snipboard.io/X9l2hN.jpg 11:38 mtj hi cait, i will write that API troubleshooting guide now... 11:30 cait jajm: taking a break... giving others a chance to comment 10:46 oleonard o/ 10:45 cait hi oleonard :) 10:43 cait one solution is also outlined here: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2022-June/057978.html 10:42 cait http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2022-08-23#i_2446340 10:37 cait it's abut SMTP serves, but that's the same issue 10:36 huginn` Bug 29964: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , SMTP server list not populating 10:36 cait check this thread here maybe: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29964 10:36 cait mtj still awake amybe? 10:35 cait i think a held back pacakge is the issue most of the time 10:35 cait tehre have been several mails on the mailng ist about this 10:27 saa i would greatly appreciate your help 10:22 saa cait why cannot i see my library name on my kohaadmin page 10:16 saa in my kohaadmin page 10:16 saa i am unable to see my library name 10:16 saa can u help me 10:16 saa cait can u help me to sort out issue of API 10:12 cait ok then 10:11 cait that#s what the missing library list points to 10:11 cait you have a problem with the API 10:10 cait saa: tat's only a warning - your error shoudl be elsewhere 10:10 cait bbiab 09:57 saa can someone help 09:56 saa after upgrading i am unable to see libraries name how to sort out this error 09:50 saa i am getting this error 09:50 saa can someone help 09:50 saa [cgi:error] [pid 6606] [client 172.16.3.14:56574] AH01215: Argument "" isn't numeric in numeric gt (>) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/categories.tt line 631 09:43 saa can someone help to sort out this error 09:43 saa after upgrading my koha from 19.05 to 21.11 I am unable to issue return and my intranet error log shows error AH01215: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 784.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/errors/500.pl I am unable to see my libraries name under libraries in global system preferences 09:34 cait someone ideas about a 500 error on returning items? 09:20 ashimema ta 09:20 cait uk-UA 09:20 cait in pootle... not sure about koha sec 09:19 cait uk 09:19 ashimema whats the code for ukrainian? 09:19 cait that would also be interesting for the diacritics and script 09:19 cait while you are on it... maybe ukrainian? 09:18 cait so we might get more 'effect' 09:18 cait at least it used to be a while ago 09:18 cait i think ar-Arab is the more complete one 09:18 ashimema it's a simple template change to add support 09:18 ashimema or both I suppose.. 09:17 ashimema or would Hebrew be better? 09:17 ashimema is 'ar-Arab' a good one to have as an option on the sandboxes cait? 09:15 cait adding screenshots right now 09:15 cait no super good news for small screens either 09:15 jajm just tried with ar-Arab... it's completely broken of course :) 09:13 cait also... mobile - I believe hte last iteration has an issue with small screens (maybe before too) 09:13 ashimema We should add an RTL lang to the sandbox options.. 09:13 ashimema that's a good call cait 09:13 cait i can't install those from the action menu in the sandbox 09:12 cait jajm: maybe we shoudl also do a test of the search bar with an RTL script (Arabic or Hebrew) ? 08:56 cait ok, on it 08:56 jajm cait: i think so 08:53 cait jajm: does it makes sense to reset the sandbox now for the search bars? 08:45 ashimema +1 07:59 cait ok, happy to do that, just wanted to check with you what you'd prefer 07:58 jajm cait: i'll look at github settings to see what i can allow people to do, but a comment is enough i think 07:49 cait good morning paulderscheid[m] :) 07:49 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha 07:44 cait jajm: is there something I could do to make your life easier to see which tested ok? so far I comment, because I can't change the labels I thnk 07:40 cait https://github.com/jajm/koha-staff-interface-redesign/issues/30 07:40 cait i like the new sidebar look 07:40 cait i'll look at the other things first, just started 07:39 jajm done 07:38 jajm cait: i'm about to push a new patch for the header search bar 07:36 cait If someone wants to join: https://staff-gui.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl 07:36 cait jajm: back on the redesign for a bit now 07:25 fridolin ^^ 07:13 cait fridolin: violet! 07:08 dcook I hope everyone has a better Koha day than I did heh 07:08 * dcook waves 07:07 fridolin yellowwwww 07:00 cait good morning #koha! 06:01 wahanui what's up, alex_ 06:01 alex_ Bonjour 02:25 dcook But also how we use it... 02:16 dcook ORMs... arggggh