Time Nick Message
20:47 fridolin NSO now
20:44 caroline thanks fridolin++
20:43 huginn` Bug 31530: minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , HTML tags in TT comments in patron-search.inc
20:43 fridolin https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31530
20:41 fridolin i open a bug report
20:38 fridolin its jsute a var
20:38 fridolin <input>
20:38 fridolin we really sould not use HTML tags here
20:38 caroline +1 thanks fridolin :)
20:37 fridolin wont change anything
20:37 caroline it should never or it can be but it won't change anything?
20:37 fridolin caroline: hi, indeed [%# xxx %] is a TT comment, it should never be translated
20:34 caroline It seems to be just explanation in the code on how to use patron-search.inc but i'm not sure
20:34 caroline Does anyone know if the "branch" in this string should be translated? "[%# - branch: <select library list> %]" it's in patron-search.inc
20:32 caroline hi tcohen!
20:31 tcohen hola #koha
19:39 drbone found this: https://ilbot2.kohaaloha.com/koha/2020-12-06 which would indicate I made mistakes configuring the instance, which is entirely possible... but how do I fix it?
19:36 drbone Would be awesome if someone could give me a hint on where to start. When searching the web for this error I found nothing really telling related to koha. Thanks in advance!
19:33 drbone I then digged a little and I found following log messages I think are related to the issue: "AH01215: no mapping found for [0xFC] at position 5 in Der B\xfccherb\xe4r g0=ASCII_DEFAULT g1=EXTENDED_LATIN at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset.pm line 308.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl"
19:32 drbone They noticed it happens most often when using special chars like ü or ß (we are from Austria and talk German) in the Title.
19:31 drbone Hi and good evening. I'm here searching for a hint on where to start looking or even maybe how to fix the issue I'm currently facing. Sorry if I'm not supposed to ask for help here, please just tell me. I've set-up a little koha instance for a small school for their library. While entering books into the library the users noticed some books "vanishing" after they completed their entry. But without error message on the screen.
18:47 tuxayo lol
18:47 oleonard Sorry tuxayo, you missed your opportunity to torpedo the Finland KohaCon proposal
18:29 tuxayo Oh there was a General IRC meeting :o
16:48 Putti lovely to see some action today on bugzilla :)
16:08 oleonard-away caroline++
15:37 reiveune bye
15:10 ashimema damn.. I don't know anyone at xercode
15:09 ashimema it's Adolfo I need to track down
15:09 ashimema I misread.. they just signed off
15:09 caroline yeah no, sorry
15:09 ashimema oop
15:09 ashimema ah.. so unlikely to get a unit test from them
15:09 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31185 normal, P5 - low, ---, adolfo.rodriguez, Failed QA , Link authorities automatically doesn't detect duplicate authorities
15:09 ashimema I'm being asked about bug 31185 here..
15:09 caroline ashimema, not anymore
15:08 ashimema caroline.. if Rachael one of your devs?
15:00 caroline perfect, thanks!
15:00 nugged caroline: Yes, kiwi.fi is the National Library of Finland own official Wiki, so this is the source as for now, until we launch (sub-)domain and site for that (working on this).
14:58 caroline (for now I mean...)
14:57 caroline nugged, the "official" source of information is this page ? https://www.kiwi.fi/display/KK/KohaCon
14:49 * nugged went to fill up further details in Wiki(s) for both Perl/Koha "us".
14:49 nugged because I am now even more in stream with KohaCon 2023 and PerlCon - I will try to cover as much remote socialization as I can :), ...
14:46 cait just hope to meet up with some of you here maybe for wathing together?
14:46 cait that they would be recorded for later view as well
14:45 cait it said so i my registration email
14:45 nugged I assume we will have those talks recorded and accessible later, right? (don't blame me if I didn't read full announce for KC22 :) and it's said there )
14:44 nugged We already advertised for our librarians, but I think because of timezone diff, I will do some post- (I will online attend myself) make summary and proposals to watch the recordings, and do the post-talks, for our librarians.
14:44 caroline [off] crossing my fingers that the dates don't clash with the big family reunion my BIL is organizing for his 50th birthday
14:42 oleonard The KohaCon22 announcement for reference: https://www.mail-archive.com/koha@lists.katipo.co.nz/msg28574.html
14:41 cait i updtaed the wiki page already
14:41 cait yep - keeping it short and simple is certainly ok
14:41 caroline Just the announcement, say more info coming and the link to the wikis?
14:41 cait thx caroline :)
14:40 caroline I can try
14:40 cait ... so anyone for that mailing list annuncement?
14:39 ashimema 🙂
14:39 cait I better start too :)
14:39 oleonard ashimema: I'm glad to hear PTFS-E will be represented in person!
14:39 caroline yass! and I'm going to bug my boss endlessly to go to Helsinki too (already started to just now)
14:39 cait hope to catch some of hte earlier presentations each day - the time differene is quite a bit
14:39 ashimema I had kid commitments
14:38 ashimema Jonathan and Andrew A are going from us though..
14:38 cait I am witness at a wedding :)
14:38 ashimema not I I'm afraid oleonard
14:38 cait sadly not this year
14:37 oleonard I believe caroline said she was going to be at KohaCon22 in person... Anyone else here?
14:37 nugged 2 all of you here ppl!
14:37 nugged 🤗🤗🤗
14:36 nugged cait: yep, 330 days, or around. I and my team will lay these 330 towards this achievement and make best of what we think/hope and I am for that. Woooooooohooo!
14:36 ashimema I'll try to remember how the meetings script works
14:35 cait hm and i should have volunteered someone to send a mailing list announcement
14:35 cait someone around to run the meeting script?
14:35 caroline nugged++ cait++
14:35 oleonard cait++
14:35 cait congrats nugged
14:35 huginn` Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/general_irc_meeting_7_september_2022.2022-09-07-14.04.log.html
14:35 huginn` Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/general_irc_meeting_7_september_2022.2022-09-07-14.04.txt
14:35 huginn` Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/general_irc_meeting_7_september_2022.2022-09-07-14.04.html
14:35 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 14:35:00 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:35 cait #endmeeting
14:34 cait 1!
14:34 cait 2..
14:34 cait ending meeting in 3 ..
14:34 ashimema 🙂
14:34 cait #info Next meeting: 7 December 2022, 14 UTC
14:33 nugged START YOUR TALKS ideas and preparations! :)
14:33 cait Catalyst IT did the first fully hybrid one - might alos be good to check in
14:33 nugged and as well will ask all to participate, advertise, bring people and call others to come, and - what will be important -
14:32 nugged so I will come around contacting BibLibre, ByWater, PTFS-E, all others of "us", for most efficient things,
14:31 nugged saying that - just to "partially touch" that I see many benefits for everyone on that,
14:31 ashimema We'll be there.. not sure who yet.. but ptfs-e will certainly attend
14:31 nugged ashimema: bring your company booth here, and HRs :). I will try to bring as much as possible "Perl related" audience attention here :).
14:30 nugged "both parties" here - Koha Community and Perl Community, and confirmation from University of Helsinki & National Library & others about financing/support + call for help/sponsorships/participation for all of you / your teams and so on: further routine tasks.
14:29 nugged through September I will cover all main things and confirm from both parties and will come with plan & steps and will go round for core team ogras and people for participation, critics, more.
14:29 cait just wasn't prepared to host a meeting today
14:28 cait heh sorry nugged, should let you talk!
14:28 nugged so to finalize my "noise" here:
14:28 cait would December 7 work?
14:28 ashimema Quarterly yes cait
14:28 ashimema 🙂
14:28 nugged and the University of Helsinki, especially the National Library, equipped and did a lot of big hybrid events so have experience and hardware and hands in this way as well.
14:28 cait I believe we had agreed on quarterly
14:27 cait #topic Next meeting
14:27 nugged it will be hybring though, yes
14:27 cait it's good to have options
14:26 cait hybrid is great for a lot of reasons, but i know a lot of us long for some in-person time together
14:26 nugged I will (as my team I see) insist on "in-person" visits and will work for off-conference things (extras, for family, workshops, trainings, tourist things, so on)
14:25 cait anything to add? new topics?
14:25 cait maybe add a note right now and link later
14:25 cait I'll update the wiki page with results after the meeting script has been run
14:24 oleonard Finland wins by a nose
14:24 cait #agreed KohaCon23 will be held in Helsinki, Finland
14:24 wahanui darn tootin' it is.
14:24 ashimema excellent
14:24 huginn` yes (10): cait, oleonard, ashimema, marcelr, khall, petro, nugged, Guest2194, caroline, thd
14:24 huginn` Voted on "Should KohaCon23 be held in Helsinki, Finland?" Results are
14:24 cait #endvote
14:24 cait clooooosing
14:23 marcelr #vote yes
14:23 cait closing vote in a moment
14:23 nugged I will come to you people around here this month, gathering info and opinions.
14:23 cait harder to tell with hybrid
14:23 cait to my knowledge might hav ebeen the biggest so far
14:22 cait I think Greece had about 220-250
14:22 nugged ... and I helped for YAPC::EU teams to organize bigger (and for the Mojolicious team a little too in Oslo 2018!)
14:22 cait and i think past organizers will be happy to advice too
14:22 ashimema +1
14:22 cait I think most important bit is to stay in touch, keep information coming, attend meeting and such
14:21 nugged (if I allowed for brace myself :) )
14:21 Guest2194 #vote yes
14:21 ashimema #vote yes
14:21 khall #vote yes
14:21 nugged #vote yes
14:21 thd #vote yes
14:21 petro #vote yes
14:20 caroline #vote yes
14:20 cait #vote yes
14:20 oleonard #vote yes
14:20 nugged to keep presentation: speaking about myself as organizer: I was organizer (among two people) of YAPC::Russia 2014, we had ~100 attendees and ~28 talks, events.
14:20 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:20 huginn` Begin voting on: Should KohaCon23 be held in Helsinki, Finland? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain.
14:20 cait #startvote Should KohaCon23 be held in Helsinki, Finland? yes, no, abstain
14:19 cait just phrasing it, give me a sec
14:19 ashimema perfect cait
14:19 cait and if none we announce
14:19 ashimema 🙂
14:19 cait so I suggest having a quick vote here to check for vetos
14:19 nugged ashimema: yes, I will insist for long stay for most core people, and will organize/propose family things too
14:19 nugged > may have to bring the family along
14:18 nugged ashimema++
14:18 nugged because for now I can declare that Koha is the best "in raising trend" Perl product we have, and Perl is the most needed thing for Koha (as well as labor, brains, support) from Perl as main tech (lang) we love.
14:18 cait ok, I didn't find it in the nots, but I think organizing a web style vote is not necessary with just one proposal
14:17 cait the old format was 3-1-3 (conf, some type of outing, hackfest) but that is not set in stone I think, having some time together for workshop/programming/discussing woudl still be nice
14:17 nugged yes, my GOAL more than just Koha or Perl by themselves, but give a new push for Koha+Perl communities united something post-this-event, and in preparation time,
14:17 nugged > will there be time for a hackfest with the combined event?
14:16 cait will there be time for a hackfest with the combined event?
14:16 nugged this I will especially present as proposal and best vision and come around with critics request to you and core team people in both Communities.
14:16 nugged > maybe a partial overlap would be nice
14:15 ashimema I like that as an approach.. should mean we can cater nicely for the two audiences that tend to attend.. the support companies and libraries and then the devs
14:15 nugged and maybe some more OpenSource teams and IT structures will support PerlCon for us. So, KohaCon too.
14:15 nugged as well that University of Helsinki in my person,
14:15 cait about missing out on one thing :)
14:15 cait so people can attend both without feeling bad
14:14 cait maybe a partial overlap would be nice
14:14 ashimema August.. that'll be school holidays here.. may have to bring the family along 😉
14:14 thd What is your planning for virtual participation?
14:14 nugged In addition, I can declare that I have preliminary confirmations from a few core people and big interest from Perl Community as well to unite KohaCon 2023 and PerlCon 2023, same place, same dates (or overlap by day or few, we will decide),
14:13 cait Are there any questions about the proposal to nugged and his coworkers?
14:12 nugged Proposal: and I just updated our wiki- (KohaCon intro page) version: https://www.kiwi.fi/display/KK/KohaCon, will transfer more info from there wiki.koha-community in a minutes
14:12 cait #info we have one proposal submitted before the deadline from National library of Finland in Helsinki
14:12 cait ok, but for now, let's deal witht he formal
14:11 nugged cait: noted.
14:11 cait let's talk about it later - we are certainly happy to advertise
14:10 nugged cait: I will have a short talk/presentation about KohaCon 2023 and PerlCon (YAPC::EU) 2023 on KohaCon 2022 and where possible. So Koha-D-A-CH-Anwndertreffen please reserve me a space :)
14:10 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon23_Proposals Proposals
14:10 ashimema 🙂
14:10 cait #topic KohaCon23
14:10 cait #info There are no actions from last meeting :)
14:10 cait #topic Actions from last meeting
14:10 nugged ashimema>: that's great.
14:10 nugged > however.. I do know Tomas and the ByWater chaps are all +1 for nugged and Helsinki
14:09 cait ok, moving on in a moment!
14:09 cait #info Koha-D-A-CH-Anwndertreffen / User meeting for German speaking Koha users is planned for December 1 2022 - proposals for presentations welcome!
14:08 nugged Slava (Guest2194, we know that it's you, I can physically confirm, so keep it then for a moment as it is :) )
14:08 cait sec, just typing up something
14:07 oleonard Come to KohaCon22 and tour all of oleonard's childhood haunts
14:07 ashimema 🙂
14:07 Guest2194 #info Slava Shishkin, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI
14:07 cait please feel free to add local events as well
14:07 cait anything else?
14:07 cait #link http://koha-us.org/events/conferences/kohacon22/
14:06 cait #info Registrations for KohaCon22 have closed
14:06 cait #topic Announcements
14:06 cait moving on!
14:06 cait :)
14:06 ashimema however.. I do know Tomas and the ByWater chaps are all +1 for nugged and Helsinki
14:06 cait still worth a try, thx :)
14:05 ashimema I poked ByWater.. but they're on retreat this week so I'm not really expecting a response
14:05 marcelr #info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum
14:05 cait looks like we got a bit of a crowd :)
14:05 Guest2194 #info Slava Shishkin, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI
14:04 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
14:04 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK
14:04 nugged #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI
14:04 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Quebec Canada
14:04 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
14:04 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
14:04 petro #info Petro Vashchuk, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI
14:04 cait Please #info yourself
14:04 cait #topic Introductions
14:04 huginn` Current chairs: ashimema cait
14:04 cait #chair ashimema
14:04 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_7_september_2022'
14:04 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:04 huginn` Meeting started Wed Sep 7 14:04:00 2022 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:04 cait #startmeeting General IRC meeting 7 September 2022
14:03 oleonard Present
14:03 ashimema me
14:03 cait quick show of hands, who is there for the meeting?
14:01 wahanui rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo
14:01 cait rmaints?
14:01 wahanui hmmm... qa_team is cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook
14:01 cait qa_team?
14:01 cait tuxayo: around?
14:01 nugged so, formally, it's just in time :)
14:00 nugged (1 minute ago) reminder just came :)
13:59 ashimema my bad
13:59 ashimema mm
13:58 cait a litle late to send the reminder too i guess, ugh
13:57 * ashimema is already working on his proposal to attend that nugged... so you best get it.. hehe
13:56 cait otherwise we might postpone to next week maybe? but let's see
13:56 cait i noticed yesterday we missed the meeting in the calendar - I hope some people will show
13:56 cait nugged: i know
13:56 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31373 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Notice template validation is missing INCLUDE_PATH
13:56 nugged cait: yes, The Meeting, I coming with this BIG thing :)... https://www.kiwi.fi/display/KK/KohaCon
13:56 ashimema bug 31373 would be nice to see moving through
13:55 cait same problem here
13:54 ashimema beware.. she wrote it, but neither of us have tested it.. we don't have Macs 😜
13:53 ashimema my daughter will be in your teams debt nugged 🙂
13:53 ashimema nice reminder
13:53 cait btw... meeting in 7 minutes?
13:53 * cait waits for the magic to happen :)
13:52 nugged cait: I call my team :). Petro or Slava, pls sign off that
13:27 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8305 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, isobel.graham09, Needs Signoff , Add an icon for iOS home screens
13:27 cait bug 8305 needs a tester! :)
13:27 cait iOS?
13:27 cait someone using mac?
12:57 cait in other news.... looks like the main list is recovering :)
12:51 cait sorry.. so many words :)
12:51 domm[m] ok, thanks!
12:28 ashimema flag++
12:15 cait so in keeping things consistent i'd like the option on libraries admin better I think
12:14 cait we have a similar feature for itemtypes (hide from search options)... that's also on the itemtype
12:12 cait and possibly good to have for the API too?
12:12 cait and not harder to get in
12:11 cait keep things in one place
12:11 cait I think a flag might be cleaner as we have the pickup library on libraries now too
12:06 domm[m] hm, 12242 would avoid a DB change, by listing the hidden branches in the Syspref instead of adding a flag to the libraries in the DB. I guess that's easier to get into Koha, but a bit less clean?
12:05 domm[m] yeah, jquery would be the hackish fallback "solution"
12:03 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , Allow hiding branches from the OPAC search pulldowns
12:03 cait domm[m]: bug 12242
12:00 cait it might be something people would like tho
12:00 cait would be my usual answer - there is no 'inactive' or 'internal' setting for libraries
11:59 cait domm: jQuery
11:52 domm[m] We use OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown to show the list of libraries next... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MXHHbrrsRBUCxcPMuwiRNcnS)
11:52 domm[m] Not sure if the general list is working again, so I post a question here
11:47 saa can anyone help in resolving this error
11:46 saa while upgrading from 19.05 to latest 22.05 when i ran apt upgrade koha-common it threw error {UNKNOWN}: DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Table 'koha_ncl.borrower_modifications' doesn't exist in engine at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Schema.pm line 1118. DBIx::Class::Schema::throw_exception(Koha::Schema=HASH(0x55d2fe5ab390), "DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Table 'koha_ncl.borr"...) called at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage.pm line 113 DB
11:31 marcelr ashimema: hi there; could you plz have a look at the API / Logger patches on 31468/22678 ?
11:21 marcelr o/
11:03 cait (see QA email)
11:03 cait also the shelf browser
11:03 ashimema yuk
11:03 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31526 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Diff view on manage staged imports page is broken
11:03 cait bug 31526
11:02 cait btw we broke the idff view in staged import too
11:02 cait ok I will
11:02 ashimema report it as a bug
11:02 ashimema modifications look OK
11:02 ashimema I see
11:02 ashimema ok.. it's bad for batch deletes
11:02 cait I was working with items
11:02 ashimema though it's in a scary long list of 'dialog message' blocks
11:01 ashimema I see stuff like "Bibliographic record 17381 has successfully been modified."
11:00 ashimema I'm sure I've seen numbers in the batch deletes
11:00 ashimema the indexing stuff I think is empty
10:57 cait it's just emptyness for the batch deletes and elasticsearch updates i just did
10:57 cait you odn't
10:57 ashimema you should see the item numbers in the detail view cait
10:40 cait maybe
10:38 oleonard Now that it's getting more use in production maybe
10:37 cait but there has been no feedback/bugs/comments I am aware of
10:36 cait if I delete a few items, it just did it before... now I have to go though more screens that are not obvious
10:35 cait I think the UX suffered from using the message queue
10:35 cait same
10:29 oleonard cait: I find the new batch modification/deletion process less useful than before
10:22 cait marcelr++
08:57 cait like... you don't see which items you batch deleted etc?
08:57 cait hm are the detailed messages in the jobs view always supposed to be empty?
08:54 * cait waves
08:54 cait :)
08:54 cait y
07:18 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha