Time  Nick             Message
16:19 cait1            got to leave as well :) bye all!
16:00 anne             cait1 : Thank you for looking. I saw that in normal view/holdings the translation "Not for loan" worked (but not in research page). But I have to go ...
15:53 cait1            waht you see might in opac-detail might be related to the old non-xslt views, they are no longer in use
15:53 cait1            wajasu: we probably could, but I don't htinke we have the logic the XSLt does as a perl component yet
15:52 cait1            so from the database - worth a test
15:52 cait1            anne: maybe it takes it from the NOT_LOAN authorised value
15:18 caroline         anne, sorry I was in a meeting... glad the translation fix worked! I'll check for the "Not for loan" part. It might be in fr-FR-opac-bootstrap
14:29 wajasu           ok. i see bug.  couldn't find it. thanks. I think that we could get the marc record and code it like it is in opac-details, as jonathan druart mentioned in comment1.  it's a small like of books for a course, so it's not much overhead.
14:27 anne             caroline : an other bug I think, when I am looking for a book, in research page, I got : "Exemplaires en consultation sur place : Not for loan" Not for loan is not translated (it's not in fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po but I'm not sure if it's OK or not ; I don't know how to fix it anyway) (22.05.03)
14:25 thd              tcohen: Are you around today with some time to test wiki migration to Canasta?  Sorry that as I reported yesterday morning the power supply connector on my laptop developed a bad connection.  I was back on IRC later with swapped hardware.
14:25 huginn`          Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30571 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Table z3950servers: Make host, syntax and encoding NOT NULL
14:25 marcelr          bug 30571 ready for testing. Pleas try
14:22 wajasu           well. i am on 22.0.03 and see code in bootstrap/en/modules/opac-detail.tt and course-reserves-detail.tt or such.
14:21 cait1            it dosn't use getMarcUrls
14:20 cait1            opac-detail uses XSLT
14:20 wajasu           i am not sure if it needs to get the marc record and use getMarcUrls, to know the context to display a title just as in opac-detail, or or parse and provide three non contextual links.
14:20 huginn`          Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20502 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Record URL broken, when there is more than one 856 on the record
14:20 cait1            bug 20502
14:20 cait1            I remember not being uappy with it using Reord URL as we have so many on the ebooks...
14:19 cait1            that probably coudl use some input
14:19 cait1            wajasu: there is an existing bug for that
14:18 wajasu           the course-details grabs it from the cr.biblioitems.url and whatever built the url column each into one.
14:16 wajasu           Of course the code in the opac-detail uses GetMarcUrls frmothe marc record (856)
14:14 wajasu           https://dallaslibrary.rts.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-course-details.pl?course_id=5  doesn't
14:13 wajasu           https://dallaslibrary.rts.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=20275   works
14:12 wajasu           i think it needs to break it apart using the pipe character and provide 3 links.
14:11 wajasu           no if i go to course reserves, and select that book, I have "Record Url" link. It tries to take all three URLs which it takes from the biblioitems.url field and doesn't separate them for the link.
14:09 * cait1          waits for the bug :)
14:08 wajasu           my librarian was looking at course reserves. in the opac i have a biblio for ISBN 0140448942 which displays details fine. it has "Online resources: Table of contents only | Contributor bigraphical information | Publisher description" with each URL pulling up the external page correctly.
14:08 cait1            anne++ :)
14:08 cait1            caroline++
14:05 anne             I corrected fr-FR-marc_UNIMARC.po and with sudo koha-translate -u fr-FR it worked ;) Merci Caroline !
14:03 ashimema         awesome, thanks
13:43 cait1            which one? :)
13:36 marcelr          qaing your patch set
13:36 ashimema         ?
13:35 marcelr          ashimema: always glad to assist :)
13:23 cait1            actually I just did
13:22 cait1            but if you are ok with fixing I could give you permission
13:22 cait1            wrong time for him I think, was hoping for tuxayo earlier :)
13:22 caroline         I was going to ask frido maybe
13:21 cait1            caroline: i could add you...
13:19 caroline         anne, mine are in misc/translator/po/
13:19 caroline         ugh, nvm I can't correct them bc I'm not part of that language team...
13:18 anne             caroline : thanks, I have root access to the server, I'm looking for the location of this file
13:17 caroline         anne, if you have access to the po files, you can correct the   in fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po and reinstall (or reupdate? I'm never sure which does which) the translations, it should correct your problem... I will correct them on Pootle so if you don't have access, maybe it will be corrected in your next update
13:15 cait1            maybe someone fixed it? .04 was just released
13:13 caroline         It's always a bit late compared to the pootle interface
13:13 caroline         I downloaded the file from https://translate.koha-community.org/export/22.05/fr/
13:12 cait1            hm bad search on my part, thx for double checking!
13:12 caroline         anne, do you have access to your po files?
13:12 caroline         there are 12 " " in fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po
13:07 caroline         lol no! I just happened to look at that moment. But it should maybe :)
13:06 cait1            caroline: does your IRC client light up when we say French? :)
13:06 cait1            thx!
13:05 caroline         cait1, sure I can look
13:05 cait1            but UNIMARC appears ok
13:04 cait1            It looks like htere are a bunch in the MARC21 file: https://translate.koha-community.org/fr/22.05/translate/fr-FR-marc-MARC21.po#search=nbsp&sfields=source,target
13:03 cait1            do you want/can you take over?
13:03 cait1            caroline: that was my suspicion too - was going to see if i can find it - still not speaking French
13:03 anne             fr-Fr and Unimarc
13:02 caroline         hi cait1! :)
13:02 cait1            and hi caroline!
13:02 cait1            yes :) and MARC21 or UNIMARC?
13:01 caroline         is it fr-FR or fr-CA?
13:01 caroline         anne: it is probably a   in the translation files
13:01 cait1            anne: I'll have a quick look
13:01 paulderscheid[m] oops ^^
13:01 anne             22.05.03
13:01 paulderscheid[m] 21.05.14
13:00 cait1            anne: which version do you use?
12:58 paulderscheid[m] cait1: per page maybe?
12:57 cait1            tuxayo: do you know how to best get in touch with French translators?
12:57 cait1            it might need fixing on the translation project, but maybe better to do a bug report or you could email koha-translate
12:56 anne             Thanks cait1. I was about to contact Koha Translation Project. Is it the right thing to do ? Or how can I report a bug ? (nothing changed locally)
12:55 cait1            paulderscheid[m]: I have no idea... but what is _pp?
12:54 cait1            you could report a bug for your specific version if you are using standard and nothing was changed locally
12:53 cait1            maybe the translated XSLT Is broken, it can happen for example if html entities are entered in translations
12:53 cait1            anne: the normal view is built using XSLT
12:46 paulderscheid[m] LMSCloud's version of koha btw
12:46 paulderscheid[m] https://paste.koha-community.org/13464
12:46 paulderscheid[m] Hi, does someone have an idea what I'm doing wrong here?
12:34 anne             Oh I change language to English and it appeared ! But not in French view !
12:33 anne             Hi, in normal view, I don't have any info. Title, author ... doesn't appear (whatever the record) - in Marc view title, authors etc. appear. How can I customize normal view so that this information appears ?
12:23 cait1            ashimema: domm: we use the return-path to the bounces get into a library account
11:09 marcelr          o/
09:28 ashimema         so whats your bug?.. the SMPT server didn't accept and we didn't give a meaningful failure for that?
09:27 ashimema         we do allow return-path and stuff.. so in theory you can direct bounce mail to a corporate address to be able to spot them already
09:27 ashimema         once an SMTP server has accepted it koha assumes it's all worked from there.
09:26 ashimema         indeed
09:26 ashimema         I kinda like the idea of adding basic mail client functionality for other things... but I'm not confident I'll ever get the funding for it.
09:26 domm[m]          bounce handling is maybe another issue, but not related to my actual bug report...
09:26 ashimema         adding client functionality.. which you'd need to grab bounces for example.. would be  a lot of code for little benefit to us..
09:25 domm[m]          as soon as one STMP server accepted the mail, it's that servers job to deliver it. once :-)
09:25 ashimema         agreed..
09:25 domm[m]          yeah, which is fine, IMO
09:25 ashimema         we try to catch failures in the actual send routines.. but we don't look for bounce emails for example.. so your right.. if upstream has a problem we don't see it.
09:24 ashimema         that's my understanding of the code domm, yes
09:18 domm[m]          the problem was that one mail was sent ~15 times, and I now assume that there was some upstream network problems, but I'd like to make sure that Koha actually offloaded that mail to the external STMP server, and did so only once...
09:16 domm[m]          in message_queue table `failure_code` is null and `status` is `sent`, so I assume the send worked
09:16 domm[m]          Quick question: If sending a mail (message_queue) via an external SMTP (i.e. not running on localhost) failed (eg due to network problems), would I find that in some (which?) logfile?
08:57 paulderscheid[m] That's also good advice ^^
08:55 cait1            paulderscheid[m]: I often end up doing sudo koha- tabtabtab
08:24 paulderscheid[m] I really have to bookmark this stuff
08:24 paulderscheid[m] It was koha-rebuild-zebra
08:23 fridolin         https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-rebuild-zebra
08:23 paulderscheid[m] Thanks again
08:21 fridolin         heuuu koha-zebra-rebuild ... something
08:19 paulderscheid[m] How to I trigger a Zebra reindex in ktd?
08:13 paulderscheid[m] 🍻
08:12 fridolin         sudo fetch me a beer
08:12 paulderscheid[m] no time for passwords ^^
08:12 paulderscheid[m] me too
08:11 fridolin         my computer is always sudo without password, whooo
08:11 fridolin         i like having root access
08:11 fridolin         i bet you can build this in one command
08:10 paulderscheid[m] fridolin: This is more convenient though ^^
08:09 fridolin         sure
08:09 paulderscheid[m] Entering the db container and using root apparently also works
08:09 paulderscheid[m] Thank you
08:07 fridolin         after a kshell
08:07 fridolin         paulderscheid[m]: yey, use koha-mysql kohadev
08:04 paulderscheid[m] How do I enter the database in ktd with the default env vars?
08:03 paulderscheid[m] Morgen cait1
08:00 cait1            ;)
08:00 cait1            morgen paulderscheid[m]
07:08 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
06:56 cait1            good morning #koha
06:39 alex_            Bonjour
06:13 magnuse_         \o/