Time Nick Message 23:58 wajasu its not in stable 23:57 wajasu FYI in my koha-testing-docker that I ran a day ago, I had a <span> tag showing in the opac did you mean. 23:48 wajasu my old 3.10 version had some custom xslt tht i did years ago for my librarian. he said we don't need tht anymore. so i canrun with the defaults now. excellent! 23:46 wajasu i used the signed-by with the koha gpg key in my koha.list. pulled koha-common just fine 23:27 davidnind[m] that's great to hear! 23:21 wajasu well that deb11 stable install went well. so much eaasier than 10 years ago, where i had to grab perl modules from all over the net. koha-common rocks! 23:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_22.05_D11 build #28: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.05_D11/28/ 22:22 davidnind[m] answering my own question: if there is a database update required for a patch, the sandboxes take care of it (looked at provision log) 22:13 huginn davidnind[m]: The operation succeeded. 22:13 davidnind[m] @later tell ashimema: FYI your sandboxes don't seem to be running http://sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/ 22:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_22.05_U18 build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 18 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.05_U18/25/ 22:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_22.05_U22 build #19: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.05_U22/19/ 22:00 davidnind[m] Question about sandboxes: if there is a patch with a database update, how do you do that? I can't see anything under the Actions menu. 21:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_22.05_U20 build #21: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.05_U20/21/ 21:40 wajasu thx. i'll try stable now while i test my vm build script. 21:17 alohabot 🎠ðŸ Koha '22.05.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ›ðŸðŸœ 21:12 * fridolin goes on QAing some bugs 21:07 davidnind[m] fridolin: 😊 (trying to sign off at least one bug a day, but focus will now be on the documentation) 21:02 davidnind[m] oops 22.11.x s/be 21.11.x... for oldstable 21:01 fridolin it is stable enought 21:01 fridolin We at Biblibre are going to 21.11 next month 21:00 davidnind[m] The happy middle ground of oldstable will get new features six months later than stable, but should be considerably more tried and tested, and as such more bug free. (22.11.x) 21:00 davidnind[m] If you want the most feature rich release of Koha and don't mind dealing with a few bugs every few months then track the stable branch. (22.05.x) 20:59 fridolin a small step for you, a giant step for community 20:59 davidnind[m] If you want to want to run the most bug-free release of Koha at any given time you should track the oldoldstable branch. (21.05.x) 20:59 fridolin davidnind[m]: great thanks for your testing, your footprint is stringly visible in Koha :D 20:56 davidnind[m] 22.05.x is the latest stable version, but I think most people allow 1 or 2 monthly maintenance releases to catch any unexpected issues with a new release 20:28 wajasu or 22.05.01 from jun27 20:24 wajasu ok. i'm going to install the latest koha for production. should i use 20.05 or 21.05 or 21.11? 18:26 davidnind[m] or put in a spreadsheet, then convert to MARC using MARCEdit and import 18:25 davidnind[m] Shane-S: That's a pain! Maybe export the record and an item, then use somethin like MARCEdit to copy and edit items then reimport - I'm sure it is possible, but is not something I've done 18:24 Shane-S davidnind[m]: thanks 18:22 Shane-S davidnind[m]: sadly I have to change inventory #, barcode (system serial...not incremental), and public note...so I think I have to do an external file 18:22 davidnind[m] Shane-S: no setting that I know of to remove the focus, except adding customer JaaScript to UserJS 18:21 davidnind[m] Shane-S: you can add multiple records at once, if the only thing that s different is the barcode (it should increment automatically) - from the record details view Edit > Edit items, fill in the common details the click the "Add multiple copies of this item" 17:00 Shane-S To add items to a biblio do I have to create a MARC file? Can I export an existing item as a marc record template to fill in? 16:18 Shane-S unless there is an easy way to scan the fields I need into a spreadsheet and then mass upload via CSV 16:17 Shane-S Its a pain to have to click anywhere on the page and press then "end" key to get down the bottom when I am doing add&duplicate 16:17 Shane-S is there a setting to remove focus from the search / checkin / checkout box? 16:10 tcohen Joubu++ 16:09 wajasu oh. how convenient. ABoutKOha->SystemInformation. you guys put the autoincrement fix queries showing me what i need to address 16:09 Shane-S I logged into my old work Koha server (its live on the web) and it load faster then this new one.....and it has 15,000+ records...so I am thinking it might be LAN related. 16:08 Shane-S Alright....guess I am just stuck with a record load time delay...maybe it is a network issue and not a server issue. 16:06 Shane-S Plack 16:06 Shane-S nm wrong screen 16:05 Shane-S I don't even see that value 16:04 tuxayo Shane-S: what do you have in "PSGI: " ? 15:51 Shane-S Trying to follow a guide and it says to check "You should have “PSGI: Plack (deployment)†under Server Information" I don't see that is that still accurate of 22.05 ? 15:39 Shane-S I think I lost connection? 15:20 FlorianB Thanks! 15:18 cait1 yes ok 15:17 FlorianB cait1: Okay nevermind, internet is being really wonky tonight, i'll come back to it tomorrow if that's alright ^^ 15:04 Shane-S So I wasn't clear earlier. It takes 10-15 second per item added manually using Add&Duplicate under Edit Items. I upgraded the VM to 4 CPU / 8Gb. Same issue, when I click Add & Duplicate it is taking 10-15 second for the page to load. 14:37 cait1 I don't really remember the bug well - maybe oleonard-away would be better? 14:37 cait1 FlorianB: not the best timing right now 14:36 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26247 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Patch doesn't apply , Search terms retained in header search creates UX inconsistency 14:36 FlorianB cait1: Hi! If you're available, can I DM you about the bug 26247? It should be quick. 13:45 marcelr shame that these libs are still not supporting https 13:45 marcelr lukeg ashimema just hope to put a bit more on that report 13:39 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12758 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Failure when loading or parsing XSLT stylesheets over HTTPS 13:39 lukeg thanks for putting some energy into Bug 12758 13:39 lukeg marcelr++ 13:23 cait1 tcohen++ 13:21 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30883 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to stable , Authorities merge is limited to 100 biblio with Elasticsearch 13:21 davidnind[m] domm: Bug 30883 13:18 cait1 maybe a cup of hot tea? sometimes helps (nothing that makes you more awake of course, but herbal or so) 13:17 cait1 oh, I don't like that 13:17 davidnind[m] cait1: I shouldn'tt be, but woke up a little while ago wide awake 🙂 13:16 cait1 davidnind[m]: shoudl you be awake? also hi! 13:15 davidnind[m] domm: there is a bug, just looking for it now... 13:14 cait1 domm[m]: you might want to have a look at AuthorityMergeLimit system preference, you can limit how many are records are udpated on the fly and leave a bigger number of titles to a cronjob 13:13 cait1 domm: did you get a reply t yoru merge question? 12:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D9 build #101: SUCCESS in 1 hr 17 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D9/101/ 12:20 mtj hmm, yeah agree 12:17 Joubu 10 sec to add 200 items? Seems correct to me 12:17 mtj i think its not enables by default, check the about page to confirm 12:16 Shane-S Plack is enabled by default now correct? I remember 2-3 years back enabling it at an old job and it was super fast page loads....but I am think I might have done 4 CPU cores. 12:14 Shane-S Thanks I will have a look and see if CPU cores help. Its a fresh and empty install. I am using it to inventory laptops and other computer hardware. We added 200 chromebooks yesterday and it takes about 10-15 seconds after doing "Add&Duplicate". 12:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U22 build #39: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U22/39/ 11:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D11 build #132: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D11/132/ 11:58 mtj Shane-S: i would experiment with adding more cpu cores, for a start 11:58 mtj Shane-S: google pagespeed can work well, as a general thing - but probably wont help much for that specific problem 11:52 Joubu Shane-S: mysql tuning maybe? 11:35 Shane-S Is there anything aside from Memcache, Apache Cache, and Plack that will speed up Koha page loads? 11:35 wahanui Congratulations! 11:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U18 build #111: FIXED in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U18/111/ 11:35 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 11:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U22 build #38: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U22/38/ 11:30 wahanui what's up, Shane-S 11:30 Shane-S Hello 11:29 tcohen hi 11:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D12 build #94: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D12/94/ 11:28 tcohen ºo 11:19 marcelr o/ 11:18 Shane-S If it helps, its a 2 CPU VM with 6Gb ram on Ubuntu 22.04 11:15 Shane-S SS of what is currently installed/enabled and what is not: https://pasteboard.co/IyjykR3A5fDp.png 11:13 Shane-S So my page load times are a little slow when performing item adds etc. I remember a while back someone had me enable something and speeds went up a ton. I thought it was Plack...but that seems to be on. I am on 22.05.00.000 11:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U18 build #110: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 16 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U18/110/ 10:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D9 build #100: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D9/100/ 10:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D11 build #131: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D11/131/ 10:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D12 build #93: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D12/93/ 10:42 oleonard o/ 10:36 Joubu please do! 10:35 ashimema might steal the unit tests though.. 10:35 ashimema probably on a fresh branch as this has too much history already 10:35 ashimema OK.. unless you're intended to have a go at this I can give it another round.. 10:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U20 build #103: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U20/103/ 10:33 ashimema Yup 10:33 ashimema That works 10:32 Joubu filter_by_accessible will be defined at koha::objects level and only return $self 10:32 Joubu $self->$relation->filter_by_accessible 10:32 ashimema $self->$relation->count; becomes $self->$relation_filtered->count; for example 10:30 ashimema where we use '$relation' there we should perhaps check for the existence of '$relation_filtered' and use that instead 10:29 ashimema it all boils down to here: https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/Koha/Object.pm#L589-L628 10:27 Joubu but most of the time a filter_by could do the job (maybe?) 10:27 Joubu I do see the problem with the "libraries_where_can_see_patrons" problematic. It's very specific and we need to process every item 10:26 Joubu Having a test per object we embed can be very bad for perf 10:26 ashimema but if it doesn't.. perhaps it does just make more sense to call a relation_filtered method for our relation handling 10:25 Joubu I am a bit late anyway. There is something that smells but I cannot spot what exactly 10:25 ashimema it always makes sense if the query uses something in the join in the where.. 10:25 ashimema but I am now considering whether always joining when an embed is added is sensible at all 10:24 Joubu yes, I think so 10:23 ashimema make sense? 10:23 ashimema hence our after the fact filtering introduced in this bug 10:23 ashimema but the join is 'dumb'.. i.e. it doesn't handle our filtering 10:23 ashimema but we always add it if the embed is needed 10:22 Joubu ha! 10:22 Joubu :q 10:22 ashimema we do only add the JOIN if the embed is needed 10:22 Joubu we would add the join only if the embed is needed 10:21 ashimema likewise.. perf wise never using a JOIN is also bad. 10:21 ashimema perf wise adding a JOIN to everything always is bad 10:21 ashimema perf wise 10:21 ashimema but yeah.. it's very difficult to magically get this right 10:21 Joubu perf side :) 10:21 ashimema depends on perspective 10:20 ashimema the code here then iterates that results of the JOINed data to filter things out 10:20 Joubu yes, so it's not efficient 10:20 ashimema what has now dawned on me is that for embedding we always use the plain relationships accessor... whichis never filtered.. so yes JOINs 10:20 Joubu don't we use JOINs for embed? 10:19 ashimema this is all about embedding.. so it's all at least one level deep 10:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D10 build #118: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D10/118/ 10:18 Joubu with the current patches, can we filter a set? 10:18 Joubu I don't understand 29523 - it looks like we need a filter_by_accessible or something 10:17 ashimema as for the caching.. you're probably right there.. it's a hang over from this being submitted before we'd discussed caching in more detail 10:15 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29523 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add a way to prevent embedding objects that should not be allowed 10:15 ashimema ooh, thanks for the QA comment on bug 29523 Joubu.. I certainly still need to enhance the tests 🙂 10:09 domm[m] Is there a workaround via a commandline script? 10:09 domm[m] is this a known bug? Shall I report it as a new bug? 10:09 domm[m] We got a bug report by catalogers who wanted to merge duplicate authorities via the webinterface. When one of the auths has a lot of linked biblios, the request times out, leaving the database in a rather dirty state (some biblios are linked to the new auth, some not, but the old auth is gone(-ish)) 10:06 ashimema the deeper I dig on this stuff the more scared I am by it. 10:06 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29523 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add a way to prevent embedding objects that should not be allowed 10:06 ashimema I'm considering search_limited at the moment in relation to bug 29523 10:06 ashimema I'm thinking drop that last patch as you've proved it doesn't work right now.. and we can follow through on that stuff in another way.. 10:05 ashimema ack.. looking at the code it's allow-owner that I've discussed before and bemoaned it's a bit of a mess. 10:03 wahanui Congratulations! 10:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U22 build #37: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U22/37/ 10:03 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:53 wahanui Congratulations! 09:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U18 build #109: FIXED in 1 hr 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U18/109/ 09:53 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:48 alohabot 🎠🦊 Koha '21.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸœðŸŽðŸ± 09:47 wahanui Congratulations! 09:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D11 build #130: FIXED in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D11/130/ 09:47 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:45 wahanui Congratulations! 09:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D10 build #117: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D10/117/ 09:45 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:42 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30982 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Use the REST API for background job list view 09:42 Joubu ashimema: please see the last patch on bug 30982, allow-owner is not working for me 09:36 wahanui Congratulations! 09:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U20 build #102: FIXED in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U20/102/ 09:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:35 FlorianB Gonna make a few more tests and probably add a tiny patch then :D 09:34 FlorianB Got it, thanks for the confirmation! 09:31 Joubu If that's true, it's not confusing. But we should improve our conditions in .tt and explicit == '1' or == '*' 09:30 Joubu so maybe CAN_user_tools is true, but you could differ both behaviour testing with '1' or '*' 09:29 Joubu pl side it's '*' for any and 1 for all 09:29 FlorianB Which is probably true with all other permissions categories then 09:29 FlorianB If you check intranet-main.tt for instance, you have multiple instances of CAN_user_tools conditions, and after giving a test user no other sub-tool permission but the edit_calendar, it's enough for all the CAN_user_tools condition to be true 09:29 liliputech Joubu: lol ^^ 09:28 Joubu that's definitely confusing 09:28 cait1 so that might be the confusing bit? 09:28 cait1 I think the templats work a bit different than the checks in .pl 09:27 Joubu always confirm yourself what I am saying ;) 09:25 liliputech Joubu: just checked with FlorianB, if any sub-tools permission is enabled, CAN_user_tools is then true 09:21 Joubu FlorianB: no, you need the whole permission "tools" to have CAN_user_tools == 1 09:21 alohabot 🎠🷠Koha '21.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸœðŸªðŸŒ¯ 09:19 wahanui Congratulations! 09:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D9 build #99: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D9/99/ 09:19 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:18 FlorianB If a user has the, let's say, CAN_user_tools_moderate_tags permission at 1; would a more general [% IF ( CAN_user_tools ) %] return true? 09:18 FlorianB Hello! Got another permission related question here. 09:12 liliputech \o/ 09:10 wahanui Congratulations! 09:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D12 build #92: FIXED in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D12/92/ 09:10 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:02 magnuse \o/ 08:24 liliputech morning 08:02 wahanui hello, dcook 08:02 dcook hola 08:00 ashimema Evening dcook 08:00 ashimema Morning #koha 07:47 dcook cait1: I'm already working late tonight O_O 07:39 cait1 I have done generator plugins that populates the field, but nothing die other way around 07:33 cait1 another question: someone aware of a value builde for validating data? giving feedback on your input 07:33 cait1 found 2 videos ;) 07:23 fridolin the code ^^ 07:20 cait1 is there any documentation for the koha-plugin-label-maker? 07:19 cait1 you can always volunteer ;) 07:11 cait1 hm 07:10 dcook The Label Creator is really begging for a makeover/replacement... 07:10 dcook I think we might go with https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-label-maker 07:08 dcook Not an issue for single language libraries but harder for multilingual ones 07:08 dcook It seems like Latin, Greek, Cyrillic OR CJK 07:08 dcook I can't find a font file that supports both English and Chinese 07:08 dcook Yeah it looks liek it 07:08 cait1 i think it just depends on the fonts you use? 07:07 cait1 hm i did test once with arabic, but it's been a longer time 07:07 dcook It's looking kind of impossible to me... 07:07 dcook Or rather... a mix of English and Chinese? 07:07 dcook Question... does anyone have Chinese, Japanese, or Korean printing in their label creator? 07:07 dcook Morning morning 07:07 cait1 good morning #koha 02:27 davidnind[m] (I'm still using the old shortcuts, haven't tested or changed to the new way yet...) 02:27 davidnind[m] for your opac span - I think that might be an error - I can't replicate as I'm not sure how to enable the "Did you mean" 02:26 davidnind[m] actually you only need to kd once 02:25 davidnind[m] you then have to kd twice 02:25 davidnind[m] I just tried starting another one with the current one I have running - you get error messages, and the current one running crashes for me 02:22 wajasu if I run: ktd up -d while one is running, will I get another set of instances ie. koha-koha-2 or will it collide 01:47 wajasu koha version 22.06.00.008 01:46 wajasu wonders why <span> shows. 01:46 wajasu ./koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/text/explodedterms.tt 01:45 wajasu opac Did you mean: <span>Search also for broader subjects</span> ... showing in my ktd 00:05 nugged this is missing: https://github.com/NatLibFi/Koha/commit/b4dc29458eaff2092a51a500a951d6b381725cee 00:03 nugged seems it is.