Time Nick Message 00:09 wajasu hey wow. plack arrived :) 00:32 dcook_ Oh neat I have one of the oldest bugs needing sign off heh 00:32 dcook_ bug 11158 00:32 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11158 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Authorities 'starts with' search returns the same as 'contains' when using ICU 00:36 dcook Interesting... commenting on that bug made it drop off the "10 Oldest bugs" list :| 00:44 tuxayo > plack arrived 00:44 tuxayo LOL 00:44 dcook tuxayo: 100% CGI may have been before your time 00:44 dcook The bad old days... 00:45 dcook One way of reducing the number of critical bugs in Koha... reclassification heh 00:47 tuxayo dcook: My time was when we would use 16.11 ^^ 00:47 dcook I know that was 6 years ago but it seems so recent heh 00:47 tuxayo > One way of reducing the number of critical bugs in Koha... reclassification heh 00:47 tuxayo That can also increase it :P 00:47 dcook tuxayo: Yeah I was just de-prioritizing some and now I'm like "Crap, I should up the priority on this other one.." 00:48 tuxayo ha ha 00:48 tuxayo dcook++ 00:48 tuxayo bug-wrangling++ 00:48 dcook I should probably be doing other things but... 00:49 dcook Maybe I'm just sad my bugs are sitting as "Needs Signoff" so I'm trying to be helpful haha 00:51 tuxayo You could try to offer crossed signoffs attempts to people having bugs waiting also ^^ 00:53 dcook tuxayo: Yeah I do like a bit of quid pro quo. Now I feel like a sucker for signing off other people's bugs for nothing last week heh 00:53 tuxayo > quid pro quo 00:53 tuxayo Doesn't that means "misunderstanding"? 00:54 dcook "a favour or advantage granted in return for something." 00:54 tuxayo > Now I feel like a sucker for signing off other people's bugs for nothing last week heh 00:54 tuxayo What is your global balance though? neutral should be to have 2 signoffs done per patch submitted. 00:55 dcook I was kidding :p 00:56 tuxayo today I learned another meaning of quid pro quo. I only knew this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quid_pro_quo#Other_meanings 01:51 tcohen hi wajasu 02:24 dcook tuxayo: That's quite interesting! 02:47 wajasu after i get my old koha library recovered and deployed, i'll look into signing off bugs. 02:50 wajasu are signoffs still through email submitals? my memory is coming back. 02:57 davidnind[m] wajasu: not anymore, most people use koha-testing-docker (docker containers with all the things required https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker) - process I use is 0) Replicate the problem 1) Apply patch git bz apply bugnumber 2) Follow test plan 3) git so X (where X = number of patches) 4 ) git bz attach -e bugnumber HEAD~X.. (where X = number of patches) 02:59 davidnind[m] wajasu: the other way is to use the sandboxes, which mean you don't have to install anything locally https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes 03:00 wajasu ok. i'll look into the docker method. that's good news. 03:39 mtj hey #koha, i was looking at marcel's problem on the ML, re: Search::Elasticsearch 6.80 03:41 mtj ...is deb11's libsearch-elasticsearch-perl (7.715-1) pkg is incompatile with ES6? 03:42 mtj i guess the good news is that our deb11-es6 jenkins build is passing, so thats promising 03:46 mtj i think Search::Elasticsearch-7 is not backwards compatible with Elasticsearch 6.x APIs :( 03:48 mtj deb11's pkg is built from here... 03:49 mtj https://metacpan.org/release/EZIMUEL/Search-Elasticsearch-7.30 03:49 mtj https://metacpan.org/release/EZIMUEL/Search-Elasticsearch-7.30/view/lib/Search/Elasticsearch/Client/7_0.pm 03:50 mtj which says... 03:50 mtj This version of the client supports the Elasticsearch 7.0 branch, which is not backwards compatible with earlier branches. 03:50 mtj If you need to talk to a version of Elasticsearch before 7.0.0, please install one of the following packages: 03:50 mtj Search::Elasticsearch::Client::6_0 03:52 mtj so, i think it is just by a chance that koha on deb11 works with ES6 03:53 mtj i have seen mention that Search::Elasticsearch::Client is forward-compatible 03:55 mtj ..so we could force a lower version, similar to our workaround with json-validator, etc 03:58 mtj something like libsearch-elasticsearch-perl_7.999+really6.80-koha1_all.deb 04:02 mtj hmm, this looks promising.. https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch-perl/issues/198 04:04 mtj ..we can build ourselves a pkg that includes both 6 and 7 versions of Search::Elasticsearch::Client 04:08 mtj im still a little suspicious that our deb11/ES6 tests are passing 04:09 mtj ..perhaps the tests are not covering the incompatible parts of the ES API 04:16 tuxayo mtj++ thanks for the analysis 04:16 tuxayo Why doesn't installing 6.80 work directly? 04:18 mtj well, there is no package for 6.80 https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/libsearch-elasticsearch-perl 04:20 mtj ..if we created a 6.80 pkg, it would only be used by deb10, but not deb11 and higher 04:20 tuxayo Why wouldn't it be used? 04:21 mtj because deb11 has a 7.30 version, that would be pulled instead 04:21 tuxayo has the koha repo lower priority? 04:21 mtj both repos have the same default priority (500) 04:22 tuxayo ok, hence the workaround 7.999+really6.80 04:23 mtj yep, as deb12 has libsearch-elasticsearch-perl 7.715 04:25 tuxayo Is there a reason to have the same priority of repos? Would it help in the future (to no mess with versions) if we start having in install instructions and release note instructions for people to give higher priority to our repo? 04:26 tuxayo (↑side topic, that doesn't really change how to solve the current issue) 04:27 tuxayo > we can build ourselves a pkg that includes both 6 and 7 versions of Search::Elasticsearch::Client 04:27 tuxayo We can have multiple simultaneous versions? :o 04:27 tuxayo How is that sorted out in the code? 04:28 mtj asking admins to give a repo a higher priority is a big security risk... its basically a no-go fix 04:30 mtj > How is that sorted out in the code? 04:30 mtj i have no idea :) 04:31 mtj its described as 'working' in a bug report, thats all i know :) 04:31 mtj https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch-perl/issues/198#issue-766244141 04:37 mtj tuxayo: hmm, i think we do not ask for an ES client version, so who knows which version ES will give us? 04:41 mtj hmm, it might be possible to add "client => '6_0::Direct'" in koha-conf.xml file 04:46 mtj it would be good to have the ES tests give us some more verbose diag info, as they run 04:49 wajasu so i guess debian10/buster is the latest that I should try. bullseye must be work in progress 04:58 mtj yeah, koha 22.05 has just released too, so probably better to go with koha 21.11 on deb10 05:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #2080: ABORTED in 37 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/2080/ 05:57 reiveune hello 06:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_ES6 build #5: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_ES6/5/ 07:46 liliputech hi koha 07:58 cait1 good morning #koha 08:24 ashimema morning #koha 08:24 ashimema morning cait1 08:36 cait1 morning ashimema :) 08:36 ashimema morning 10:32 oleonard o/ 10:47 cait1 hi oleonard :) 10:59 ashimema cait1 still around? 11:05 cait1 arond again, what's up? 11:20 oleonard I wish I understood what was going on with Bug 22070 cait. I still can't seem to reproduce the problem 11:20 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22070 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , OpacBrowseResults has broken link back to search results 12:46 tuxayo hi, RM and assts :) tcohen , ashimema , Joubu with Arthur we noticed a regression on his almost released 21.11.x, but the tag is already pushed. Can we retag or should we bump the version? 13:19 alohabot 🎠🮠Koha '21.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ‹ðŸðŸ¥– 13:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D10 build #113: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D10/113/ 13:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U20 build #98: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U20/98/ 13:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U22 build #33: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U22/33/ 14:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D11 build #126: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D11/126/ 14:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D12 build #88: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D12/88/ 14:06 tcohen hi all 14:06 tcohen \o 14:06 lukeg hi tcohen 14:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U18 build #105: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U18/105/ 14:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D9 build #94: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D9/94/ 14:33 tcohen tuxayo: I see no problem bumping another version 14:34 liliputech tcohen: that's what i did, hence the version gap between 21.11.06 and 21.11.09 (uuups) 14:34 tcohen LOL 14:35 tcohen sounds correct anyway! 14:35 tuxayo tcohen each time something is wrong: redo DB and koha.pm version bump and release notes again. This is the 3rd time XD 14:35 liliputech tcohen: still have an issue with the release_note script, it won't get the proper team! 14:35 tuxayo > sounds correct anyway! 14:35 tuxayo Yes it's correct for the 1st release to be very messy :P 14:35 liliputech (changed etc/user.yaml already) 14:36 tcohen I never used the scrip 14:36 tuxayo even though bu 30808 has been backported 14:36 tcohen t 14:36 tuxayo *bug 30808 14:36 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30808 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Release team 22.11 14:36 tcohen ask ashimema or Joubu 14:37 ashimema cait around? 14:37 wahanui cait around is, like, cait cait1 cait2 cait3 cait4 cait5 14:44 tcohen tuxayo: have you backported it? 14:44 liliputech tcohen: i've just pushed it so, he might backport it in a minute 14:44 tuxayo right 14:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 31053: Add Context module to Koha::Encryption <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=147f6e0293ce5817bca450a54c83213c7f0f1585> 14:55 tuxayo tcohen: shoots, I don't have the team also >< 14:56 tcohen I cannot start KTD on my laptop \o/ 14:56 tcohen and am stuck downtown with it... in a cafe... 14:57 ashimema ouch 14:58 tcohen is it only me? 14:58 tcohen koha-koha-1 | Running [sudo koha-shell kohadev -p -c 'PERL5LIB=/Users/tcohen/perl5/lib/:/Users/tcohen/git/koha:/Users/tcohen/perl5/lib/perl5/ perl /kohadevbox/misc4dev/populate_db.pl -v --opac-base-url http://kohadev.myDNSname.org:8080 --intranet-base-url http://kohadev-intra.myDNSname.org:8081 --marcflavour MARC21']... 14:58 tcohen koha-koha-1 | Can't locate C4/Installer.pm in @INC (you may need to install the C4::Installer module) (@INC contains: /Users/tcohen/perl5/lib/ /Users/tcohen/git/koha /Users/tcohen/perl5/lib/perl5/ /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.32.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.32 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32 14:58 tcohen /usr/share/perl/5.32 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at /kohadevbox/misc4dev/populate_db.pl line 25. 14:58 tcohen ah, it is inheriting PERL5LIB... 14:58 tcohen just noticed 15:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D9 build #95: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D9/95/ 15:02 liliputech tcohen: had this error too, solved by "source .env" in ktd source dir before ku 15:05 tcohen yeah 15:05 tcohen I just unset PERL5LIB and it did the trick 15:05 tcohen I wonder what changed 15:05 tuxayo ashimema: any hint about why bug 30808 isn't working for my and liliputech ? 15:06 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30808 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Release team 22.11 15:06 tuxayo I can get 22.05 in release notes but not 22.11 15:06 tuxayo Empty team 15:07 tuxayo *me 15:07 tuxayo lukeg: hi :D 15:07 tuxayo lukeg: are you are the point of making release notes for you release? 15:08 tuxayo *your 15:10 ashimema hmm 15:10 ashimema that's strange 15:10 ashimema I can take a look shortly 15:11 ashimema oop.. meeting.. bbiab 15:16 alohabot 🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo 🌮ðŸˆðŸ¥” 15:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U20 build #99: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U20/99/ 15:18 tuxayo tcohen , ashimema , Joubu it's etc/config.yaml in the release tools which doesn't have the new team. Shall I open a ticket in the release tools? 15:19 tuxayo lukeg: issue found ↑, with Arthur we will copy the right team from docs/teams.yaml in Koha to etc/config.yaml in the release tools 15:21 tcohen tuxayo: yes please 15:21 tuxayo ok ^^ 15:26 wajasu pulls down koha repo. and koha-testing-docker. getting familiar with it. will probably jettison my docker setup from years ago. 15:28 wajasu i wonder if i can use the docker.env config to select an old release tag, then restore mysql backup. then move through releases to upgrade to koha 2022 15:29 alohabot 🎠🱠Koha '22.05.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸŸðŸŒðŸ’ 15:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D10 build #114: UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D10/114/ 15:39 ashimema ah yes, well spotted tuxayo 15:39 ashimema yes please 15:43 tcohen wajasu: what I'd do is just start it with the right Koha version image, like in KOHA_IMAGE=21.11 ktd up -d 15:43 wajasu whew koha is a big repo 15:43 tcohen and then mysql -hdb -uroot -ppassword 15:43 alohabot 🎠🰠Koha '21.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ²ðŸðŸ¥¥ 15:43 tcohen to remove the DB 15:43 tcohen and then restore the backup 15:43 wajasu thank you. tcohen. saving me so much time. 15:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U22 build #34: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U22/34/ 15:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_U18 build #106: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U18/106/ 15:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D12 build #89: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D12/89/ 15:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D11 build #127: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D11/127/ 15:55 wajasu trying to clone koha. it failed at 82%. fetch-pack: unexpected disconnect while reading sideband packet. will try again. time for lunch 16:00 tcohen wajasu: maybe try cloning the github mirror 16:00 tcohen then change the remote url? 16:09 tcohen @seen gmcharlt 16:09 huginn tcohen: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 39 weeks, 4 days, 18 hours, 52 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> this one is fun: bug 29087 16:10 tcohen gmcharlt: sent you an urgent-ish email 16:10 tcohen bug 29087 16:10 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29087 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds to pull list can crash with a SQL::Abstract puke 16:18 alohabot 🎠🼠Koha '22.05.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ–ðŸðŸ’ 16:26 tcohen here we 16:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23991: (follow-up) Silence useless warnings <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e439d710517b291b5a065200ef20a3fdf798de2> 16:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23991: (QA follow-up) Fix tabbing <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd401736edc47655a7936260ec7abff234a5569e> 16:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30937: Surroung Yes/No with span <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=148e93d45d5813232e06ed7ff18726b2cb558fbe> 16:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30937: Add a 'does not exist' hint if branchcode is invalid <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6173de92bbd595299a75e943d9822cb4ec3a0da1> 16:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30775: Make 952w to have datepicker plugin by default <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b25dfb50a10390e1fa4f66c40ecc6da7aeb3af79> 16:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23991: Move SearchSuggestion to Koha::Suggestions <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d533a92aa8283de29dd64cdf698588dd707af353> 16:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30937: Add a detail view for libraries <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da31437d1a7e2ac3f4a71b78ac652ed6c3d57731> 16:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26486: Group edit buttons in reports toolbar <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22afd8b4e7be875f737a4dd86d9f69e4ca117ce1> 16:27 tcohen go 16:28 mtj hey #koha 16:29 mtj tcohen: any chance we can get test.jenkins running some builds soon? 16:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_22.05_U20 build #19: SUCCESS in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.05_U20/19/ 16:30 mtj we could start running just ES builds on it 16:31 mtj im happy to help, etc 16:32 tcohen my plan was to migrate it all together 16:32 tcohen i.e. overwrite the whole configuration 16:32 tcohen you mean we could try using it also as a worker node? 16:32 tcohen sounds like a good idea too 16:33 tcohen can we use an external ES with the test suite? 16:33 tcohen I'm not involved in build_jenkins.pl 16:33 tcohen (yet) 16:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_22.05_U22 build #18: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.05_U22/18/ 16:33 tcohen bbiab 16:35 mtj either is ok with me... but sooner is gooder :) 16:38 mtj hmm, im not sure about an external ES setup 16:38 mtj ..i guess its possible, but has not been attempted yet? 16:44 alohabot 🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ§ðŸŒ¯ðŸˆ 16:47 mtj tcohen: can you give more info about 'an external ES with the test suite' 17:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_22.05_D11 build #26: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 14 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.05_D11/26/ 17:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #887: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_My8/887/ 17:19 tcohen mtj: hi, sorry, lunhc got longer than expected 17:19 tcohen I think the sandboxes work like that, there's a single ES server 17:20 tcohen and multiple sandboxes 17:20 tcohen we could launch an ES instance on that server, to be used by the tasks running there 17:26 mtj hmm, i think the problem with that method, is we are testing 3 versions of ES 17:26 mtj es6, es7, and amazon os7 17:41 mtj but hey... i am sure we can sort 3 es versions, between us all 17:44 mtj ..or just start with es6 first, then add others later 17:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_22.05_U18 build #23: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.05_U18/23/ 17:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #458: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/458/ 17:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #2029: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/2029/ 18:16 wajasu the ktd up is pulling all its images. 18:17 tcohen \o/ 18:17 tcohen mtj: yes, we will figure. Priority is getting it working, so efficiency can come later I guess 18:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #2081: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/2081/ 18:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #701: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/701/ 18:48 wajasu you guys made my dream docker koha development environment come true. Awesome! 18:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U22 build #111: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U22/111/ 18:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest build #977: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest/977/ 19:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D12 build #184: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D12/184/ 19:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D9 build #96: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 18 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_D9/96/ 19:11 wajasu the ktd up is pulling all its images./quit 19:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_22.05_U20 build #20: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_22.05_U20/20/ 19:19 wajasu i start the ktd docker. do a kshell. the koha-koha-1 ends. just koha-db-1 and koha-memcached-1 remain. 19:20 wajasu i rebooted and have 24GB box. 19:33 tcohen how do you start it? 19:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #888: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_My8/888/ 19:54 cait are we missing the v21.11.09 tag now? 19:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #459: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/459/ 20:07 wajasu tried a ku in koha-testing-docker. saw am error with: Can't locate C4/Installer.pm in @INC... thus koha-koha-1 exited 20:07 wajasu was in /kohadevbox/misc4dev/populate_db.pl line 25 20:08 tcohen do 20:08 tcohen unset PERL5LIB 20:08 tcohen then ku 20:08 tcohen but please do kd first 20:08 tcohen so it cleans up 20:08 wajasu ok. must have pulled in my host PERL5LIB 20:09 tcohen exactly, it happened to me a few hours ago, must be some new docker feature -.- 20:12 wajasu worked. i'm in archlinux and just updated and rebooted to be sure to have lots of ram. 20:12 wajasu indexing zebra now 20:12 wajasu wooo we have a message queue broker now with rabbit 20:15 tcohen wajasu: I encourage you to read the README, and use the `ktd` script instead of the aliases 20:16 wajasu i will. i will be trying to stand up 3.16. after i play with 20.05, and load my backup db to see if i can upgrade. 20:18 wajasu docker stats helped, docker logs showed that PERL5LIB issue 20:21 tcohen ktd --logs 20:21 tcohen when you use it 20:46 wajasu ok. ktd environment running. now to get my backup db in place and see if the web installer upgrades as needed. 21:08 wajasu loks like http proxy uses 127.0.0.1:3142 apt-cacher-ng? It can use mine :) 21:43 wajasu i guess i can run the installer from the command line in the ktd to get my koha 3.100200 version schema upgraded. cross my fingers. 22:05 wajasu ls 22:20 wajasu when i use kshell, can I use: perl /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl 22:20 wajasu it exits with no error, no output. my database isn't upgraded in my ktd environment. 22:22 wajasu i dropped the koha_kohadev database and renamed my dump sql to use that library name, then restored it. 22:22 wajasu now i am just trying to get the updatedatabase script to do its schema mods to bring me to 2022 :) 22:23 wajasu should those maintenance scripts work in the ktd environment? 22:23 wajasu time for dinner 22:29 tuxayo > when i use kshell, can I use: perl 22:29 tuxayo YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO. 22:29 tuxayo (HAPPY CAPS LOCK DAY)