Time Nick Message
00:13 fridolin tuxayo: we may start with breakcrumbs
00:13 fridolin whould be a good start
00:13 tuxayo You mean like
00:13 tuxayo <title>Self check-in › [% IF ( LibraryNameTitle ) %][% LibraryNameTitle | html %][% ELSE %]Koha [% END %]</title>
00:14 tuxayo rsaquo is the symbol like ">" we use for breadcrumbs IIUC
00:30 fridolin yep
00:30 fridolin some parts of the breakcrumbs surely are common
00:31 fridolin › should be replaced by CSS in my opinion
00:32 fridolin ahhhh but there can not be HTML in title, forget
00:33 fridolin i've also once been in that rabbit hole
00:37 tuxayo > yep
00:37 tuxayo Part of the 2300 string that I'm reviewing and some changing are these breadcrumbs
00:38 tuxayo > ahhhh but there can not be HTML in title, forget
00:38 tuxayo oh nooooo
00:39 tuxayo Thanks fridolin you caught something big there
00:44 tuxayo ah blast, I changed like all those from the opac for nothing.
00:44 tuxayo fridolin++ thanks again so I didn't do all Koha
00:47 fridolin same for you bro :D
00:51 tuxayo fridolin: For <title> we could use this, right? [% t('A translatable string') %]
00:56 fridolin i hope so
01:03 tuxayo fridolin: Would that be too risky to start adding a lot of t() (albeit only one per page) if I want to stand any change of my patch to pass QA before string freeze. (which is today!!!!!)
01:03 tuxayo *stand any chance
01:05 fridolin iiich too risky indeed
01:05 fridolin it will be usefull for next release cycle
01:07 tuxayo fridolin: ok, I'll try next cycle then for the <title> Thanks for the advice :)
01:13 fridolin thanks for translators ;)
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23352: DBRev 21.12.00.054 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=350cf44770b6b38e00aa2aed1d9eaf0fcdf45ff4>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28082: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ee36d174b8dd3ecd0fbae6402fb34778cec8e6c>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30611: DBRev 21.12.00.053 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81ed12df8c1f0f4592ac2f835b83937224ed5699>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30290: DBRev 21.12.00.052 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=032deac223693f449bdf50c411532a5400e91b4f>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30611: (follow-up) Use constants <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f81b5e29e572b78069bbd542c8c51797b00792f>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30611: (QA follow-up) Only show reset option for allowed categories <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b5b3919c04527bb8e2d693fa6d274fcb912b8a6>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30611: Add STAFF_PASSWORD_RESET notice <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e86c1e67362270e365c537b7d93844c94bf27420>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30611: Add ability for staff to send password reset emails <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5a93edea574ecae1e30d6e7b7969be66b8b3619>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30290: (QA follow-up) Sample notices/database update: Change phrasing to Yes/No <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de350e0bf225ebcdf35ec73b1906a2cc4f8cfa24>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30438: Add select all/clear all buttons to invoices.tt <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b40d4750290079604cd2a014391e2d81a2e523ee>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30510: Add Patron reason column to suggestion tables <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa13ec2e9360ce08728644a48165d0eadda9752c>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23352: (follow-up) Fix QA test failure <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68c697f7a2ce5ee942a3a514c5db250582e4d732>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28082: Add acquisitions toolbar to vendors on vendor search page <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=56aa775602add25b81ba251bb4fb120cbeaddb10>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30290: (follow-up) Add warning for translated notices <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f37d3bc2d3990fcec96374b1d23e2ee7f4bb27a>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30290: Database revision for existing notices <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d96207f2d7996745e34bb5b44980993259b603c>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23352: (follow-up) Fixes for QA review <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=add825664dbb5e37da7eb2762868e17966046d48>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20615: Add the link of number of times the authority are used in edit mode <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=594adf2190ebfab2efe504ae1e8e43df7f204b79>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23352: Update DBIC schema <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6b898fd039ff8bd11c8ff55ef921487d64259b4>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23352: Set default collection code when creating subscription <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad6d1265e03cd1dc057e363f40c044d924382230>
01:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23352: Database changes <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c196a3437f1a7c5e9d016d0984206ecd4829ecfd>
01:47 alohabot 🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo 🥘🥠ðŸœ
01:50 tuxayo «%s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s "%s %sby %s%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s%s%s"â »
01:50 tuxayo just no
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02:18 tuxayo 554/2291 strings done (checked en eventually changed). I wish so much that I would have started that a week ago and not 24h before the string freeze.
02:18 tuxayo *checked and
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03:23 tuxayo https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=_bW4vEo1F4E
03:23 tuxayo «Monty Python SPAM»
03:24 tuxayo That's me now but with <span>
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05:39 dcook Nothing like waiting forever for koha-testing-docker to start only for it to have crashed out due to a missing dependency haha
05:39 dcook This is not my week..
05:40 paxed hm. looks like it's no longer possible to create select2 elements with ajax handlers and whatnot? or at least the select2 v4 removed the initialization support from the non-full js
05:41 paxed this makes creating value builders quite annoying. :/
05:45 dcook :(
05:46 dcook The select2 stuff drives me a bit crazy in general..
05:50 paxed i also suspect having two select2 libraries would not go over very well, and i don't really want to replace the minimal one koha has, so i no idea how to update those value builders yet
05:50 ashimema Haven't we always used version 4 of select2 ?
05:50 paxed since 2020
05:50 ashimema Indeed.. I don't entirely remember when we introduced it in Koha
05:52 ashimema Hmm, interested to see what you mean.. I found select2 pretty well documented and easy to use.. but I don't remember how it was done before.. only how's it's done now
05:52 ashimema What are you trying to achieve paxed?
05:53 ashimema We have a REST API wrapper for it if that's what your thinking?
05:53 paxed ashimema: i have value builder plugins that turn a marc field into a select2 drop-down that queries the entries from external api via ajax
05:54 ashimema I see, fair enough.
05:54 ashimema So it's updating old code your not keen on. Thats fair, it's a pain in the proverbial
05:55 reiveune hello
06:01 paxed ashimema: "keen", uhh...
06:03 paxed more like "how tf do i do this now?"
06:06 * ashimema turns on computer and tries to dig out an example
06:09 paxed frex. https://github.com/KohaSuomi/Koha/blob/master/cataloguing/value_builder/finto_yso-kauno.pl
06:12 ashimema https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/select2.js#L41-L76
06:12 ashimema does that help at all?
06:12 ashimema it's not as involved as your code.
06:12 ashimema just reading yours
06:13 paxed maybe.
06:13 paxed will have to see
06:14 Joubu fridolin: "Yep I push what is passed QA", everything?
06:14 alex_ Bonjour
06:18 fridolin1 ashimema: sample notices also on Bug 24865
06:18 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24865 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Customize the accountlines description
06:18 ashimema is everyone scared to QA bug 27619?
06:18 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27619 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Remove fr-FR installer data
06:19 * dcook waves to all the people
06:19 ashimema I'm at the point of trusting it given that Arthus has tested it, Bernardo has contributed it and Joubu wrote most of it..
06:19 ashimema but I didn't feel expert enough in our translation workflows to actually QA it myself..
06:19 ashimema any thoughts?
06:19 ashimema logically it all seems sound to me.. but yeah.. I'm by no means an expert in that area
06:20 ashimema as for bug 24865 I think personally I'd leave that for next cycle now
06:21 ashimema I can rescue it with tcohen early in the cycle.. I reckon we can do a little better somehow.. it feels weird to have it in a notice still
06:21 dcook Speaking of release cycles..
06:22 dcook [off] ashimema: I was going to look at rescuing bug 22990
06:22 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22990 is not accessible.
06:22 ashimema 🙂
06:23 ashimema that one is a bane
06:23 cait1 good morning #koha
06:23 cait1 bug 24865
06:23 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24865 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Customize the accountlines description
06:23 dcook ashimema: It is and I want it so much..
06:23 cait1 hmm maybe, it could be a little risky
06:23 dcook I don't get why no one but you and me seem to care about it :(
06:23 magnuse \o/
06:24 magnuse ooh, kia ora dcook
06:24 dcook heya magnuse
06:24 dcook Long time no chat
06:24 magnuse yup
06:24 magnuse it's almost like we are a world apart ;-)
06:25 ashimema [off] We have customers who can't believe we don't care about this in community.
06:25 ashimema [off] on the verge of leaving
06:25 magnuse [off] care about what?
06:25 ashimema bug 22990
06:25 cait1 [off] what magnus says?
06:25 dcook World apart.. I barely see people who live in my own city heh
06:25 magnuse hehe
06:26 dcook [off] sorry to hear that ashimema :(
06:26 dcook [off] I've spent a lot of time patching local instances and the thought of having to do it again for the next upgrade makes me want to tear my hair out..
06:27 ashimema they're not that serious thankfully.. we're still the best option.. but it's annoying to keep backporting little parts rather than spending time catching more cases once the base is actually in
06:27 cait1 [off] I am not sayin we shoudl not do this... but are they aware of the security issues a lot of other ILS have? still getting clear text passwords on every migration we do. I think it will be fixed after release - I wanted to push for the bug then (not one for me I am afraid)
06:27 dcook 100% that
06:28 dcook [off] They're not getting security reports for other ILSes :p
06:29 dcook Patches didn't apply so just did a rebase and fixed up some merge mistakes. Hopefully caught it all..
06:30 dcook Ok and oleonard wanted qa tools run..
06:30 * dcook never remembers how to do this part..
06:30 dcook qa 8?
06:32 dcook Or maybe it worked it out itself.. whatever. I think I got what I need..
06:43 fridolin1 ashimema: Bug 30275 looks quite heavy , is it ok to leave it to next cycle ?
06:43 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30275 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Checkout renewals should be stored in their own table
06:44 ashimema yeah, certainly
06:44 Joubu fridolin1: only my opinion, but it's too late for pushing enhancements..
06:45 Joubu You announced ft freeze 2 weeks ago, and today it string freeze
06:45 ashimema I'd deliberately left off the rel_ keyword for that one 😜
06:45 Joubu we won't have time to bugfix
06:45 Joubu do what you want with that
06:45 fridolin1 some poeple asked me to push there enhancements
06:45 liliputech hi
06:45 fridolin1 i think i'm neerly done
06:46 ashimema let me add a new keyword.. rel_22_11_candidate
06:46 fridolin1 OK super
06:46 Joubu you pushed the real-time holds queue because people asked you to. Now we have 3 new bugs
06:46 ashimema then I can happily go through and mark things up to say 'first thing next cycle'.. that should keep people happy and help clear your queue a bit
06:49 dcook [off] koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/virtualshelves/tables/shelves_results.tt is so annoying...
06:50 ashimema ohhh yes
06:57 dcook It keeps injecting newlines and I'm about ready to arrrrrrgh
06:58 dcook Renders "\n" on the html page :|
06:59 dcook Template::Toolkit is pretty great overall but this seems pretty basic..
07:00 dcook And my time is up :(
07:01 ashimema have a good night dcook
07:01 dcook Thanks, ashimema
07:04 paxed does the template perhaps need [%- -%] markers? iirc, those eat the whitespace away
07:05 dcook Ahh Fing did it
07:05 * dcook kicks the air
07:05 dcook paxed: Nah it was the INCLUDE automatically adding an extra newline despite those
07:05 dcook You could add [%~ or [%- and it would just ignore them
07:06 dcook So I put the INCLUDE within a BLOCK put that into a variable and them did var.trim
07:06 dcook There might be a better way but it's the only way I could get to work
07:06 dcook ashimema: Might not work with your detection script but I'm giving up for tonight. Good e-nuff.
07:07 paxed dcook: [% INCLUDE myfile | trim %]
07:07 dcook I'll give that a go
07:08 dcook Legend
07:08 dcook cheers, paxed
07:08 dcook Trying to get out the door to my evening plans so stress getting to me haha
07:10 dcook And qa tool passing yaaay
07:12 ashimema my detection stuff was certainly a work in progress 😜
07:12 ashimema more than happy to work on improving it now there's some momentum again
07:12 * dcook just wants this to get in
07:12 dcook Well, you've got a friend in me for sure
07:13 dcook ashimema: 22990 is ready for your sign off for my last 2 patches and I"ve already signed off your earlier ones
07:13 dcook And on that note... really leaving this time
07:13 dcook Ciao for now and good day
07:13 dcook paxed++
07:14 dcook ashimema++
07:14 ashimema 🙂
07:42 magnuse dcook++
08:37 liliputech hi severine_q!
09:02 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27619: Remove fr-FR installer data <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdb6f28139b01b98397107f9f919b818f775763e>
09:02 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27619: Add custom for fr-FR <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc498997057156d4dd1eb6028809a7309ca0447e>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13142: DBRev 21.12.00.055 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb0eecfc6e633a9153ef63d18b09dca36d5aeddb>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30710: Regression tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a10f88bd3e727ee4655ac830748de0f3feb13cb6>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30710: (QA follow-up) Add POD <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63002fa58914bf90db9b5ca1802a96f120762a69>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30603: Fix other occurrences <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1473575317423b01e03d5eb09ab03625f0ad0a49>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30603: Display Sort1 and Sort2 as free text if no AV exists <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc235e72ce7d545c8c44dae294f542e378c7e231>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30710: Build holds queue once per biblio when batch deleting items <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3649905dfc7117bf566b234e06eaedc23e824c3>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30695: (QA follow-up) Catch moremember.tt too <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a2d659b7d4421b3fbf7e3b394426638a7b9567e>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30695: Display tabs more consistently in patron details <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac461ec797612a2426c36d041f59fb08efd83674>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30127: By default show pending suggestions tab <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b6fd415b450e66058cd97923d9ea68a37223479>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13142: (QA follow-up) Convert database update to current format <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=38db9932d2df0895b0f542525e539f95c4dc7903>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13412: (QA follow-up) Rephrase and link system preference descriptions <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=32ea1742f80a671004e7c84e390d638b51d3d295>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13412: (QA follow-up) Fix alphabetic order in sysprefs.sql <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=985fcf970c6be0bdb248b64cc3442000b6121387>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30511: Don't lock up entire database while running koha-dump <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da93be46ff26bb05a20160fd992d583a76308827>
09:12 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13412: Allow configuration of auto-created authorities <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55d1e68024aabbbb36855e23718df0857f2af185>
09:17 alohabot 🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ§ðŸ£ðŸ‘
09:37 zb hey. what does recall mean in koha language? is it a when a long loan period is shortened when somebody else requests the item?
09:40 tuxayo zb hi :) https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_IT_Recalls
09:40 liliputech zb: this is what it does. it is going to be available in 22.05 (coming release)
09:40 liliputech https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19532
09:40 huginn Bug 19532: new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, RESOLVED FIXED, Recalls for Koha
09:41 zb thanks!
09:41 tuxayo zb: IIUC It's a hold that asks the current borrower to check back in the item early.
09:42 tuxayo That seems a bit mean, I wonder in which situations librarians resort to that.
09:42 ashimema it's patron driven too tuxayo
09:43 paxed that's ....
09:43 ashimema recalls is a think in the UK.. but not the way it's implemented here
09:43 paxed sorry, my first reaction is "wtf?"
09:43 zb ah. i know something like this has been used in a voyager library where i have worked
09:43 ashimema here meaning in this koha submission
09:43 ashimema in the UK they're very much tied to actual holds
09:44 zb university staff had longer loan periods by default than others, but had to accept that the period could be shortened if somebody needs the item
09:44 ashimema and it's staff initiated or automatically triggered based on hold queue demand
09:44 ashimema yup
09:44 ashimema that sort of thing zb
09:44 zb maybe not the best way to do things :)
09:44 tuxayo ok i see
09:44 ashimema but I don't believe that's how this feature works in Koha..
09:44 ashimema but honestly I tapped out on that bug long ago.. so things may have changed
09:45 alohabot 🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ˜ðŸ¥–ðŸŽ
09:45 paxed definitely not something public libraries in finland would use or allow for patrons.
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09:46 ashimema yeah.. it's really for the academic use case in the UK.. no idea how NZ use it
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09:53 * ashimema just clearing the queue to the latest pushed gets built instead of waiting in line
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09:53 tuxayo Meanwhile, finally finished to inspect 2291 strings and added 665 <span> (T_T) everywhere in templates to get rid of most of the obnoxious very long strings with %s everywhere and split them into clean strings.
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09:54 ashimema nice
09:54 ashimema tuxayo++
09:54 tuxayo Now time to proofread and try to make a nice not too scary patch submission.
09:56 liliputech tuxayo++ (et bon courage pour la suite, + bon courage pour le reviewer)
10:06 tuxayo fridolin++ again. If they hadn't told me that we can't put a <span> inside a <title>, I would be halfway onto the task and half of the work would be invalid.
10:07 ashimema lol
10:07 ashimema yeah.. that nearly caught me once
10:10 oleonard o/
10:22 paxed does it recall all the copies of the same item, or randomly picks one?
10:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #401: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/401/
10:25 ashimema Joubu still around?
10:26 ashimema I found a "bug" in bug 27619 now of course
10:26 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27619 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Remove fr-FR installer data
10:26 ashimema we can just plain drop xt/sample_notices.t can't we..
10:27 ashimema that should probably have been in the patch-set but I totally forgot about it existing 😛
10:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27619: (QA follow-up) Remove xt/sample_notices.t <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5462a72aea93745d2ba53645775a58136fff66b>
10:38 Joubu ashimema: same! Yes we don't need it anymore
10:38 ashimema done 🙂
10:39 tuxayo paxed: I think there is configuration about the strategy.
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10:43 cait yay :)
10:44 ashimema and cait1 became cait again
10:45 alohabot 🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ«ðŸŒðŸ¥®
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11:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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11:36 wahanui Congratulations!
11:41 tcohen bonjour
11:41 wahanui bidet, tcohen
11:43 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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11:43 wahanui Congratulations!
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12:20 tcohen c'mon internet
12:20 tcohen you can do it
12:20 tcohen am I online?
12:20 tcohen wahanui: ?
12:20 wahanui tcohen: i haven't a clue
12:21 tcohen fair enough, wahanui
12:21 wahanui tcohen: excuse me?
12:22 tcohen hola ashimema Joubu cait oleonard
12:22 tcohen and all
12:23 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U22 build #60: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U22/60/
12:23 wahanui Congratulations!
12:24 oleonard kidclamp: I hope my followup fixes the issues you saw with Bug 30579
12:24 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30579 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , When placing item level hold, some options that are not used are not disabled
12:36 ashimema debugging selenium tests sucks
13:05 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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13:05 wahanui Congratulations!
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13:33 magnuse it sounds like the AUTO_RENEWALS_DGST letter includes every checkout the patron has in the "checkouts" variable? has anyone succeeded in using checkout.lastnreneweddate to only list those checkouts that were done today (or had errors) in the output?
13:35 magnuse something like [% IF checkout.lastreneweddate = TODAY OR checkout.auto_renew_error %]output checkout[% ELSE %]skip[% END %]
13:36 magnuse s/=/==/
13:42 magnuse oops, gotta run, will read back if anyone has anything to share :-)
14:20 * oleonard finds the new API documentation system confusing
14:20 tcohen https://api.koha-community.org?
14:24 tcohen that one, oleonard?
14:25 oleonard http://127.0.0.1:8081/api/v1/.html
14:26 oleonard Yours is better tcohen :)
14:27 tcohen that's THE reference oleonard :-D
14:27 tcohen they are similar, but the baked-in one doesn't translate the labels etc
14:28 oleonard Good to know... I had no idea that existed.
14:55 liliputech bye koha
15:06 reiveune bye
15:16 cait cya tomorrow #koha
16:51 tuxayo If anyone can review even partially Bug 30733, that would be a huge help for translators if this can make it for this release.
16:51 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, victor, NEW , Simplify translatable strings
16:54 tuxayo The changes in templates to get clean translatable strings are simple (wrap in a <span>) but there are a lot of strings to clean up. Which is why this simple but long patch will get rid of most of the terrible strings to translate.
21:03 tuxayo hi!
21:04 davidnind hi tuxayo!
21:04 tuxayo :D
21:05 thd Hello all.
21:05 davidnind who would like to chair the meeting?
21:05 thd Goodbye all day headache.
21:05 davidnind hi thd!
21:06 thd The headache from three days of no sleep restoring my internet and telephone service has subsided.
21:06 tuxayo I was planning to chair but was late. And now I'm writing a last minute email to advertise the meeting ^^"
21:06 fridolin yooo yep Im here
21:06 davidnind tuxayo: great!
21:07 fridolin lets wait a bit for poeple
21:07 davidnind thd: doesn't sound good :-(
21:07 fridolin https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_11_May_2022
21:08 tuxayo hi fridolin ^^
21:08 fridolin davidnind: great to see you, thanks for your several signoff
21:08 fridolin you are our testing angel :D
21:08 davidnind :-D
21:09 aleisha hello! tuxayo i just got your email
21:09 tuxayo great!
21:09 aleisha did i miss the meeting?
21:09 tuxayo It will start
21:09 thd The good part is that my new landlord spent months obtaining new internet service for his business which both killed my service and made the new installation possible.
21:09 tuxayo I'll note to email alex also. Hi alexbuckley ^^
21:09 alexbuckley Hi tuxayo !!
21:10 alexbuckley Thank you that would be great :)
21:10 tuxayo #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 11 May 2022
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21:11 tuxayo Actually it's the 12th in Aotearoa/NZ ^^
21:11 tuxayo #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_11_May_2022 Today's agenda
21:11 tuxayo #topic Introductions
21:11 tuxayo #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo ASBL, France
21:12 aleisha #info Aleisha Amohia, Catalyst IT New Zealand
21:12 alexbuckley #info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT New Zealand
21:12 fridolin #info Fridolin Somers, BibLibre, France
21:12 rangi[m] #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, New Zealand
21:12 davidnind #info David Nind, New Zealand
21:12 fridolin NZ is in the place \o/
21:12 aleisha \o/
21:13 alexbuckley :)
21:13 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [internet back on hooray]
21:13 * fridolin waves looking above the sea :D
21:13 tuxayo Great to have that attendance for a last minute call!
21:13 tuxayo #topic Announcements
21:14 aleisha yes thank you for the reminder tuxayo
21:14 tuxayo yw
21:14 tuxayo Anything to announce that doesn't fit the other topics?
21:14 aleisha kohacon22 announcement?
21:14 davidnind Call for presentations for KohaCon22 are now open
21:14 fridolin yep
21:15 tuxayo great!
21:15 fridolin [Koha] KohaCon22 Conference Announcement and Call for Presentations
21:15 fridolin in mailling list
21:16 davidnind #info Call for presentations for KohaCOn22 are now open (close on 3 June 2022): https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2022-May/057755.html
21:16 aleisha #link https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2022-May/057755.html
21:16 fridolin thd: how is the Covid situation is US ? getting better ? i mean this info is important for KohaCon
21:16 tuxayo davidnind++ aleisha++ I was searching the email
21:17 davidnind Great that presenters can be in-person and online (live or pre-recorded)
21:17 tuxayo cool
21:17 thd In New York City the COVID-19 infection rate is worse every week.
21:17 fridolin ich
21:18 tuxayo Much can change about covid until September 20-23rd hopefully it will be okay between two waves ^^
21:18 fridolin i've traveled throw LA recently, so it will be OK for me
21:19 thd Major urban areas in the US are expected to have a summer surge of COVID-19.
21:19 fridolin who from NZ is coming ?
21:19 aleisha we're not sure if we can attend in person
21:20 tuxayo > Major urban areas in the US are expected to have a summer surge of COVID-19.
21:20 tuxayo Good news is that Lawrence is in the middle of nowhere I heard ^^
21:20 aleisha will definitely be attending online though!
21:21 tuxayo Anything else to announce? Before the other topics?
21:22 thd Middle of nowhere helps currently except for traveling in a small tube with 50% air recycling. Wear a good mask with a tightly fitted seal.
21:22 tuxayo I forgot to do the usual IRC calls.
21:22 tuxayo rmaints?
21:22 wahanui rmaints is khall, AndrewFH, wainui and tuxayo
21:22 tuxayo qa_team?
21:22 wahanui qa_team is probably cait, joubu, tuxayo, marcelr, kidclamp, khall, tcohen, ashimema, nugged, kohaputti, petrova
21:22 thd I have enough exposure from my job to put my off air travel indeffinately.
21:23 aleisha wainui usually doesnt start this early but i dont think there are any announcements from her as rmaint
21:23 tuxayo :/
21:23 tuxayo good so wainui is back :)
21:23 tuxayo #topic Update from the Release manager (22.05)
21:24 fridolin yey me
21:24 tuxayo fridolin: 🎙ï¸
21:24 fridolin I've pushed this week last enhancements that where passedQA
21:24 aleisha woohoo!
21:24 fridolin the remaining ones have tag for 22.11 release
21:24 fridolin we are now string freeze
21:25 fridolin only major bugs will be pushed
21:25 aleisha is there any big recalls stuff i need to turn my attention to?
21:25 fridolin 1544 commits that far
21:25 fridolin aleisha: i think not, but have a look at dependancy graph
21:26 fridolin https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=19532
21:26 tuxayo aleisha: when people ask about recall, what is the best ressources to link them to? this? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_IT_Recalls
21:27 aleisha i think so yes - im not sure how much it has moved on from that documentation when the community started chipping in but it should still be mostly accurate!
21:27 tuxayo "Patch doesn't apply" is also green in the dep graph. Confusing ^^
21:27 fridolin indeed
21:27 tuxayo good
21:28 fridolin Bug 23781 needs some refreshing
21:28 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23781 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Patch doesn't apply , Recalls notices and messaging preferences
21:28 aleisha will put it on my list
21:29 davidnind thanks aleisha - a good basis for the documentation: I'll try and have something on the manual that can be linked to
21:29 fridolin aleisha: after 22.05 release you may always ask RMaint of stable branch to backport even enhancements, if it makes sens
21:29 aleisha thanks davidnind
21:29 aleisha yes true fridolin
21:29 fridolin tuxayo: Bug 30733
21:29 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, victor, NEW , Simplify translatable strings
21:29 fridolin great work
21:30 fridolin but really to risky at this point, it a large patch
21:30 tuxayo thanks, I hope it will be able to sneak in
21:30 fridolin and translation process is already begun
21:31 fridolin tuxayo: could we imagine backporting it during next cycle ?
21:31 fridolin or will it generate too much translation work
21:32 tuxayo It will be more work for the translators compared to if it is merged in the next two days.
21:32 fridolin but risk of introducing bugs is real no ? large patch
21:33 tuxayo > or will it generate too much translation work
21:33 tuxayo If it can be merged quicky, it will be a net gain by removing a lot of horrible strings (replacing with clean ones) and it will compensate that 1 or 2 days will be lost in the beginning of string freeze
21:33 tuxayo > but risk of introducing bugs is real no ? large patch
21:33 tuxayo It's large but it's adding <span></span>
21:33 tuxayo Just that, in a lot of places
21:34 tuxayo Like bug 29602 which didn't yield any bad surprise IIRC
21:34 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29602 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, We must be nicer with translators
21:35 tuxayo via doing searches in the git log for <span></span> I can guarantee that there is no typo or mismatching tags.
21:35 fridolin ok i'll think about it, but there where already a lot of "late" pushes ;)
21:36 tuxayo I also checked carefully that an opening or closing tag don't risk to be missing depend on IF and ELSE
21:36 fridolin 29602 has some effects on places where html is forbiden : Bug 30629
21:36 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30629 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , <span> in title of patron card creator template needs to be removed
21:36 fridolin but indeed speeding up translation work is a blessing
21:37 fridolin tuxayo: do you have a count of after / before patch
21:37 tuxayo count of what?
21:37 fridolin ? like in fr-FR fr example ?
21:37 fridolin translated / untranslated strings
21:37 fridolin like in 29602
21:38 tuxayo > ok i'll think about it, but there where already a lot of "late" pushes ;)
21:38 tuxayo Indeed it's late sorry, I wish I had knew and realized about this need and possibility of refactoring sooner that 24h ago ^^
21:39 tuxayo > 29602 has some effects on places where html is forbiden : 30629
21:39 tuxayo It's well covered about <title> thanks to you warning me yesterday :)
21:39 fridolin great
21:39 tuxayo I have been careful about to not put <span> in CSV or JSON output also ^^
21:40 tuxayo I could have been fooled by an include though
21:40 fridolin tuxayo: i propose you self-passedQA it , I will have a close eye on it and I may push
21:41 tuxayo > do you have a count of after / before patch
21:41 tuxayo ok, I'll redo my count. Expect a number of new small simple string because same as bug 29602 because it's split long complex strings.
21:41 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29602 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, We must be nicer with translators
21:43 tuxayo > i propose you self-passedQA it
21:43 tuxayo I still feel having proofread from other people is needed. Loosing 2 days and messing with strings again would still be worth it for translator. Unless they rush the 1st 48h ^^
21:43 tuxayo I can test other pages also.
21:43 fridolin https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29602#c23 here is the counting
21:43 huginn Bug 29602: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, We must be nicer with translators
21:44 fridolin ok we will wait 2 days and relook at it
21:44 tuxayo thanks for your trust, I didn't though I could convince you that much ^^
21:44 fridolin look at my comment in 30733 about ":"
21:44 tuxayo Oh great you did a counting also.
21:46 fridolin Lets continue meeting
21:46 davidnind #info Release Manager to consider pushing bug 30733 - Simplify translatable strings (may or may not be risky at this late stage, with translation already started)
21:46 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, victor, NEW , Simplify translatable strings
21:46 tuxayo I'll study that because our string counting yielded difference results when we did it https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29602#c52
21:46 huginn Bug 29602: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, We must be nicer with translators
21:46 tuxayo > look at my comment in 30733 about ":"
21:46 tuxayo Thanks, I'll check that out
21:46 aleisha #info Aleisha may ask 22.05.x rmaint to backport recalls bugs if necessary
21:47 tuxayo #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
21:48 tuxayo My upstream is flow of patches is low for now so I still have time to mess with translations ^^
21:49 fridolin XD
21:49 tuxayo (to polish my patch)
21:49 tuxayo moving on?
21:50 davidnind Were you still looking for release maintainers for 20.11, 20.05 and 19.11? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_22.11
21:51 tuxayo right, does Wainui or someone else at Catalyst have plans for RMaint next cycle?
21:51 tuxayo We left that option open.
21:51 aleisha sorry if it wasn't clear, we are unable to do rmaint this cycle but will be more active with bug wrangling and qa team!
21:52 tuxayo sound like a good switch :)
21:52 tuxayo > sorry if it wasn't clear
21:52 tuxayo It's just that Wainui was away and we forgot to ask before about the future plans.
21:53 tuxayo #topic Updates from the QA team
21:53 tuxayo qa_team?
21:53 wahanui well, qa_team is cait, joubu, tuxayo, marcelr, kidclamp, khall, tcohen, ashimema, nugged, kohaputti, petrova
21:54 fridolin after release we will define 20.11, 20.05 and 19.11 as unsupported
21:54 tuxayo #topic Actions from last meeting
21:54 aleisha should we info that fridolin ?
21:55 fridolin not necessary
21:55 tuxayo That's "by default" when there is not rmaint
21:55 aleisha cool wasnt sure if it had to be minuted :)
21:55 tuxayo > tuxayo ask confirmation from koha-devel about using Vue3 for the new ERM module.
21:56 tuxayo Yes, confirmation asked in the ML , and nobody complained ^^
21:56 tuxayo > cool wasnt sure if it had to be minuted :)
21:56 tuxayo Maybe I should pay more attention to minutes rather than rely on full log
21:56 tuxayo #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
21:57 tuxayo Any topic?
21:57 fridolin I've looked a bit on bugs about Elasticsearch
21:57 fridolin still lot of work to do
21:57 fridolin we should not forget about it
21:57 aleisha yes i've had a few ES things come up recently
21:58 tuxayo > still lot of work to do
21:58 tuxayo Isn't that just bug 25669 ?
21:58 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25669 normal, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, In Discussion , ElasticSearch 6: [types removal] Specifying types in put mapping requests is deprecated (incompatible with 7)
21:59 aleisha a few things have come through on the mailing list of problems people are having with ES
21:59 tuxayo so new bugs with ES 6?
22:00 fridolin yep, general behavior bugs
22:00 tuxayo As if we weren't struggling enough to have ES 7 supported ^^"
22:00 fridolin some features from Zebra are still missing
22:00 fridolin creating fields via UI ...
22:01 tuxayo aleisha: do you ES in production on a lot of libraries?
22:01 aleisha we're trying to put more onto it recently, i think we have 4 ? now
22:03 fridolin we at Biblibre have 11 ES
22:03 fridolin we try to create each new Koha with ir
22:03 tuxayo ok, somewhat similar to other support provider I think? (trying to recall from the hackfest)
22:03 fridolin it
22:04 aleisha it's definitely our favoured search engine
22:04 tuxayo > we try to create each new Koha with ir
22:04 tuxayo even the small ones?
22:04 fridolin it depends i think
22:04 aleisha it depends but yes we would put small ones on a shared ES server
22:04 fridolin we mostly have big ones indeed
22:04 aleisha the priority and testing has been with the larger ones who need to do more complex searching
22:05 fridolin ES rebuild is reeeeealy fast, it's great
22:06 fridolin and talking with the server with curl is fun ^^
22:06 aleisha the rebuild and searching speed is just lovely!
22:08 tuxayo Anything else?
22:08 wahanui it has been said that Anything else is necessarily going to be incremental.
22:08 davidnind #info Announcement: KohaLa Symposium 2022 - 16-18 May: https://koha-fr.org/symposium-2022/
22:09 tuxayo wise words wahanui
22:09 tuxayo thanks davidnind
22:09 davidnind Maybe for a future meeting some discussion on discovery layers - Aspen and Vufind seem to be gaining in popularity as a layer on top of Koha
22:10 aleisha good call davidnind
22:10 davidnind I'll add to the next agenda...
22:10 tuxayo good idea
22:11 fridolin nice, i dont know Aspen
22:11 fridolin Vufind is used by Thesaloniki University, a big Koha fan
22:11 davidnind Aspen Discovery: https://bywatersolutions.com/products/aspen-discovery
22:12 fridolin ooo it is from the Shire ^^
22:12 thd Aspen is / was based on VuFind.
22:12 davidnind :)
22:13 tuxayo Are discovery layers like the Koha OPAC but with more features?
22:14 aleisha i think it's like instead of the Koha OPAC, they would use a lot of koha APIs
22:14 tuxayo ok, it seems it can aggregate multiple sources of records
22:14 aleisha we recently implemented koha for Auckland University of Technology and they use VUfind for the OPAC instead of KOha
22:15 davidnind nice!
22:15 fridolin you can add the Bokeh portal then
22:15 thd None of these discovery systems generally manage post-coordinated subject headings well which certainly would require much effort to do well.
22:15 aleisha davidnind: it was a fun implementation! they sponsored a bunch more work for recalls too so ill have to get some of those fixes into 22.11 :)
22:15 fridolin https://www.afi-sa.net/bokeh
22:17 davidnind alesiha: excellent, feel free to add me to the bug(s) for sign-off
22:17 aleisha thank you!
22:17 * fridolin AFK
22:17 tuxayo fridolin: does Bokeh have an english presentation page?
22:17 tuxayo ok
22:18 tuxayo Any more topics?
22:18 aleisha nothing from me
22:19 tuxayo #topic Set time of next meeting
22:20 aleisha same time next month? whats the usual plan
22:20 tuxayo Next meeting in two week will target work hours for Europe and the Americas. Anyone from Oceania still aim to attend so we try to get a less terrible hours.
22:21 tuxayo fridolin: back?
22:21 tuxayo > same time next month? whats the usual plan
22:21 tuxayo We can keep alternating and yes that would be next month for a meeting which target NZ to Americas work hours.
22:23 davidnind alternating is good
22:24 tuxayo It would be the same hours.
22:24 tuxayo Unfortunately for dcook : please paddle to get Australia closer to Aotearoa so it's the same time zone :P
22:25 aleisha heh
22:25 tuxayo So without news from fridolin let's aim the same hours for next meeting. 25th 14:00 UTC
22:26 tuxayo #info Next meeting: 25 May 2022, 14 UTC
22:26 tuxayo #endmeeting
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22:26 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_11_may_2022.2022-05-11-21.10.html
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22:26 davidnind tuxayo++
22:27 aleisha tuxayo++
22:27 alexbuckley tuxayo++
22:28 tuxayo Thanks all for attending. Happy to revive the meetings at this timeframe ^^
22:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1969: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1969/
22:50 fridolin tuxayo++
22:50 fridolin great to see NZ poeple, have a nice day/night/yesterday
22:51 tuxayo fridolin: for the meeting that targets work hours for Europe and the Americas, is there a less terrible hour for you than 14 UTC ?
22:56 fridolin no problem
22:58 tuxayo ok
23:17 dcook tuxayo: The timezone is less a problem than the announcements perhaps heh
23:17 dcook I don't recall hearing of any eeting
23:18 dcook meeting*
23:21 dcook Hmm midnight... probably won't do that next one heh
23:22 tuxayo dcook: indeed I forgot about announcing this one. Except a few minutes after the beginning ^^
23:22 dcook I probably wouldn't add anything of value anyway heh
23:22 tuxayo > The timezone is less a problem
23:22 tuxayo That's 7am for you though so no possible right?
23:23 dcook ?
23:23 dcook Ah so it was
23:23 dcook I just looked at it wrapping up at 8:30. Long meeting O_O.
23:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_ES6 build #1: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_ES6/1/
23:31 tuxayo dcook: indeed, even with nothing special in the agenda we spend quite some time on ES and on bug 30733 Which I recommend you to take a lot at ;) It would be a big plus for translators if we are able to greenlight it
23:31 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, victor, NEW , Simplify translatable strings
23:32 dcook Oh I try to stay clear of anything translation related. I don't get along well with people on that topic hehe.
23:33 dcook And since I mostly present Koha in English, I figure other people are better suited to it
23:33 dcook The ES thing is interesting. I've been meaning to do more with that..
23:33 * dcook loathes most of Koha's search code after having spent quite a bit of time with it years ago
23:37 tuxayo > I try to stay clear of anything translation related
23:37 tuxayo Here it's just ensuring I didn't broke something by putting a <span> in a wrong place in a template. Just technical about template refactoring.
23:37 tuxayo > The ES thing is interesting. I've been meaning to do more with that..
23:37 tuxayo Do you ES in production dcook ?
23:39 tuxayo *you use
23:39 dcook Ah I did recall you cursing spans the other day heh
23:39 dcook And no - no ES in prod
23:39 dcook Starting to use ES on a different project which should be launching soon
23:39 dcook And with that.. there's more motivation to use ES for Koha
23:39 tuxayo ^^
23:39 dcook Although from the sounds of it.. still sounds like ES isn't quite ready
23:39 dcook Or Koha's use of it rather
23:39 dcook I recall Koha doing some horrific things with ES..
23:40 dcook Like storing the whole MARC record in a field..
23:41 dcook I sound rather glum today but I'm actually in a pretty good mood heh