Time Nick Message 20:07 oleonard (but I still don't know how to get GD::Barcode to show an error message ) 20:02 oleonard It's always fun to be Googling some Perl thing and end up with Koha code in the results 19:36 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha cait tcohen 19:36 mtompset Now that I have this working again. I will check in more often. :) 18:37 mtompset So, what's the kid count now? 18:36 mtompset Kind of important when you have comorbidities like being overweight, sleep apnea, heart issues, etc. 18:35 tcohen nice you're vaccinated, same here 18:35 tcohen :-D 18:33 mtompset I'm mostly doing coding in PHP now. Haven't had much time to look at the koha code base recently. 18:32 mtompset Just came on to see that I could still do so, since I saw hex-chat update a couple times in the past. I had to reset my password. I forgot it. 18:31 mtompset Oops... I think I *LIVE* 18:31 mtompset I think I like in the most locked down province in Canada. Generally okay. I have the power of 3 vaccines in me. But, I suspect with my son's rapid test positive, my family and I probably have Omni. Thankfully, it's just a bad cold as a result of being vaccinated. 18:25 tcohen how are thing??? 18:25 tcohen hi mtompset !!!! 18:18 mtompset Thanks, cait . 18:18 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. Long time no see, online. :) 17:54 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:54 tcohen @later tell Brooke I missed your message! 17:54 huginn` tcohen: Brooke was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Brooke> :) how's it going? 17:54 tcohen @seen Brooke 17:44 cait wb :) 17:38 mtompset Wow! I finally made it back here. YAY! 17:26 davidnind Seem to have given myself lots more things to do! :) 17:23 marie-luce davidnind++ 17:22 cait a great idea 17:22 davidnind I'll start weekly updates to the mailing list from this week, so hopefully that can get some discussion going on documentation topics and tasks 17:21 cait davidnind++ 17:21 lucyvh Bye all 17:20 lucyvh Thanks davidnind++ 17:20 aude_c thanks. See you next time! 17:20 marie-luce thanks davidnind++ 17:20 davidnind Apologies for going over time! 17:20 caroline thanks davidnind++ 17:20 davidnind Thanks everyone! 17:20 huginn` Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/documentation_irc_meeting_6_january_2022.2022-01-06-16.00.log.html 17:20 huginn` Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/documentation_irc_meeting_6_january_2022.2022-01-06-16.00.txt 17:20 huginn` Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2022/documentation_irc_meeting_6_january_2022.2022-01-06-16.00.html 17:20 huginn` Meeting ended Thu Jan 6 17:20:06 2022 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 17:20 davidnind #endmeeting 17:19 davidnind #info Next meeting: 3 February 2022, 16:00 UTC 17:19 davidnind which would be 3 February 2022, 16:00 UTC 17:19 aude_c yes 17:19 davidnind Same time if that suits everyone, and the first week of the month? 17:18 davidnind Okay we will go with having a video conference meeting for the next meeting 17:18 cait +1 17:17 davidnind #topic Set time of next meeting 17:17 marie-luce +1 17:17 aude_c sure 17:17 lucyvh Yes sure 17:16 davidnind Is everyone okay to make the next meeting a video conference one? 17:15 aude_c I've used Jitsi before; very easy to use 17:15 davidnind I was going to test Jitsi, but will leave to next time.. 17:15 davidnind #action davidnind to add a Bugzilla task for reorganising the manual so that it is less linear 17:14 cait just glad the video meeting was not today, but wlil be ready next time :) 17:14 davidnind I will add a Bugzilla task for reorganising the manual, and add some ideas there as a starting point - everyone is welcome to comment 17:13 lucyvh cait++ 17:13 davidnind excellent idea cait! 17:13 cait we also had discussed having a video meeting - maybe that could be a first topic to gather ideas? 17:13 davidnind I do 17:12 davidnind its not you, just a limitation using GitLab and large rst files - you can generally click on the raw link 17:12 caroline I know we're way overtime, but do we still have plans of going in a less linear manual? 17:12 cait so it also caters to the structure of the manual 17:12 cait yes, best is to make the split 'logical' in some way... 17:11 caroline the thing is that when we split sections, they are also split as different pages in the manual, so we have to be mindful of that 17:11 lucyvh No worries if it's only me - I probably need a new laptop :) 17:10 lucyvh I'll look into the local repository approach 17:10 davidnind and my spelling is atrocious this morning! 17:09 davidnind OI'll have a think about how to organise the system preferences section a bit better - am open to ideas if anyone has any... 17:09 cait just was hoping it was something that I had an idea abou thow to solve :) 17:08 cait not your fault at all 17:08 lucyvh cait: I know sorry!! 17:08 cait i was hoping it would be enough 17:08 cait :( we had already split that one up 17:08 lucyvh I haven't been doing much lately but tried circpreferences.rst this afternoon and couldn't work with it 17:08 davidnind it's not too bad, once you get the hand of it - clone the repository locally, 17:07 cait lucyvh: not super bad, but involving git instead of only the gilab website 17:07 davidnind cait++ 17:07 cait lucyvh: which are the files most problematic right now? 17:07 lucyvh Thanks davidnind - 'complicated workflow' sounds bad!! 17:07 cait but it's also good to keep docs in mind when doing QA 17:06 cait I hope to just get sth done right now tbh 17:06 davidnind I think I try to avoid cataloging (and MARC things) :-D 17:05 davidnind lucyvh: I think the only solution there is to work on them locally (which is a more complicated work flow intially) until we can break things up into smaller files 17:04 marie-luce :) 17:03 aude_c No particular areas I want to work on; but certainly some I'll try to avoid!! 17:03 lucyvh I'm still finding that I can't edit some of the larger rst files using gitlab in a browser - the edit page just hangs. Not sure if anyone else finds this or has any advice? 17:02 davidnind Also, where has the last hour just gone! :-D 17:01 davidnind Do any of you have any particular areas you want to work on? 17:01 davidnind Otherwise, I'm, happy to suggest something 17:01 davidnind If anyone would like something to work on, using the manual keyword Bugzilla queries would be the place to start, and pick something 17:00 davidnind if anything the priority should be on updating new features for past releases 16:59 davidnind feel free to add anything you would like there 16:59 davidnind I will update the list of easy, medium and hard tasks (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Documentation_Team#Easy.2C_medium_and_hard_tasks) 16:58 davidnind I don't have any particular priorities at the moment 16:57 davidnind I'm still updating Bugzilla with the manual keyword for 21.11 release changes, 22.05 was up-to-date last week... 16:56 davidnind #topic Next steps 16:56 davidnind I normally try and check, for release related changes, which version I need to go back to 16:55 davidnind so either add something along the lines that "This change was made in Koha XX.XX", which will act as a prompt for me 16:55 lucyvh Will do, thanks 16:54 davidnind If it helps you can add it to the commit message, otherwise add as a comment to the merge request 16:53 lucyvh Or does that overcomplicate things 16:53 lucyvh To help with cherry picking to previous versions? 16:52 lucyvh Is it useful to know which versions the change is for? 16:52 davidnind If we do it this way then the commit history should be relatively clean, see https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/commits/master 16:51 aude_c not from me 16:51 davidnind Any comments/questions? 16:51 davidnind This is basically similar to how Koha does things 16:50 davidnind - Description: Explain briefly what has changed and why 16:50 davidnind - Title = Bugzilla number: Short title 16:50 davidnind The main thing (and an update to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_guide_for_documentation#Commit_messages is required) is to used the format: 16:48 davidnind I added commit messages as an agenda item, does anyone have any questions about this? 16:47 davidnind hopefully we can get it fixed up reasonably quickly, so those who translate can translate! 16:46 cait i think we need Bernardo to clear up some steps of th eprocess ultimately 16:46 davidnind apologies, am a bit slow this morning... 16:45 davidnind anything else on translation - the mystery bit for me is how Pootle gets updated with the recent manual changes 16:44 cait +1 16:44 davidnind #action davidnind to work on getting the po files for the manual updated (bug 29647) 16:43 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29647 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david, ASSIGNED , [DOCS] Update po files in manual repository 16:43 davidnind I think the other change I was going to make was to get the strings updated once a month - see bug 29647 16:41 cait recent changes didn't shop up for translatoin on the olders ones 16:41 davidnind I haven't sent a message to the translation manager (Bernardo) yet, so I will do that after this meeting 16:41 cait it doesn't seem to have happended in a while 16:40 cait on first glance the docs look good - some details like updating the po on pootle I don't know about either 16:40 davidnind the only think I'm not sure of is updating the strings on Pootle - I think I need to send a message to the Translation Manager (Bernado) 16:39 davidnind I've documented the process, so any any comments welcome 16:38 davidnind #link Process for translating the manual: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_management#Translating_the_manual 16:37 davidnind Not too much here, I will cover the translation issue first 16:37 davidnind #topic Content development guidelines 16:36 davidnind Also, there are queries for Bugzilla for 22.05 and 21.11 to list items for a release with the 'Manual' keyword = see the agenda for the link 16:35 davidnind I hope I've got that right! 16:35 davidnind 3. Add Manual-updated keyword (and remove Manual keyword) 16:35 davidnind 2. When the manual is updated: add a note to the bug saying the change to the manual was made, here it is for review, and that comments are welcome 16:35 davidnind 1. Bugzilla task for release change has 'Manual' keyword added 16:35 davidnind summary of work flow change- using Bugzilla for managing documentation changes: 16:31 davidnind was trying to add a summary of the workflow change... 16:30 davidnind no problem! 16:29 cait sorry ok 16:29 davidnind It's on the agenda so will cover next 16:28 cait not sure if this topic will still come up - is there any progress on translations, more so updating the po files for 21.11? 16:28 davidnind mostly that works okay, but h=if there are a lot of other changes it may need to be done manually.. 16:27 aude_c Ah, great :) 16:27 davidnind I generally try to - master is updated, then I "cherry pick" the change for the previous version 16:26 aude_c Like, for the one I did the sys pref name changed in 21.11 - so will the 21.11 manual be updated? 16:26 reiveune bye 16:25 aude_c I'm afraid I have another "newbie" question... Will the updates to the manual be in previous versions too? 16:24 davidnind thanks 16:24 davidnind aude_c++ 16:24 aude_c I used https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_2021-12-16 16:24 davidnind one sec... 16:24 davidnind just trying to find where we discussed this 16:22 davidnind #action davidnind to write up changed workflow processes on the Wiki - using bugzilla for managing documentation tasks 16:21 davidnind #action davidnind make sure spreadsheet for release changes (22.05 and 21.110 is editable by others 16:20 cait hm so should we update bugzilla and spreadsheet then? 16:20 lucyvh davidnind++ 16:20 davidnind the spreadsheet should be writable, so I will check that out 16:20 caroline is there a link with the new procedure? Some of these things are new to me 16:20 lucyvh thanks davidnind 16:20 cait aude_c: couldn't find a picture yet, sorry 16:19 aude_c thanks 16:19 davidnind I will have a look and document it next time I do a change 16:18 aude_c is it called squashing or is that something else? (Sorry, not used to the terminology!!) 16:18 lucyvh We were not sure what needed going regarding the google spreadsheet? It's read only, so will you update that davidnind? 16:18 lucyvh Will do that in future too 16:18 cait the tickbox 16:18 cait I tihnk it might be on both sies then - when making the merge request and when merging it? 16:17 davidnind cait: there is in GitLab, it is a tick box to say merge the commits so that there is just one commit for the history - it made it much easier than doing manually from the command line 16:17 aude_c cait: thanks for the gitlab tip 16:16 cait :) 16:16 aude_c I used your new keyword! 16:16 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29180 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, System preference RequestOnOpac should be renamed 16:16 aude_c cait: Bug 29180 16:16 davidnind Anyone got anything else to share on what they've been working opn - nothing from me (apart from everything seems to be work in progress, and nothing finalised) 16:15 cait i have set it a few times, but didn't check the outcome 16:15 cait I think there is a checkbox on gitlab that might achieve that when doing the merge request 16:15 aude_c Should I be merging all the commits into one before creating the merge request, then? 16:15 cait could yo ushare the bug number as an example? 16:14 davidnind thanks for updating the bug as well, I think that is the first using the new way! 16:14 davidnind it was mostly there - I ended up merging all the commits into one and changing the commit message slightly 16:13 aude_c I tried to follow your instructions from the last meeting's agenda too davidnind (regarding Bugzilla); hope that's how you thought it should work 16:12 cait lots of small steps are great :) 16:12 davidnind Thanks lucyvh! 16:12 lucyvh I'm good at spotting the easy ones! 16:12 davidnind lucyvh++ 16:12 aude_c Thanks; lucyvh picked a very easy one for me to start with. 16:11 davidnind hope the process wasn't too daunting and that there will be more! :) 16:11 caroline aude_c++ welcome! 16:11 marie-luce aude_c++ 16:11 cait aude_c++ 16:11 lucyvh aude_c++ 16:11 aude_c Haha, thank you! 16:11 davidnind aude_c++ 16:11 davidnind congratulations to aude_c - first change pushed to the manual! 16:10 davidnind It's been pretty quite of the holiday period, so not too much to report in the way of updates 16:09 davidnind #topic What's been done so far 16:08 davidnind #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Documentation_Team#Projects 16:08 davidnind Nothing from me to report on any of the projects, still adding as tasks to Bugzilla 16:07 davidnind #topic Project updates 16:06 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29752 enhancement, P3, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , [DOCS] Look at adding documentation tasks to the dashboard 16:06 davidnind #action ashimema to look at adding docs tasks to the dashboard https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ (bug 29752) 16:06 davidnind ashimema is not here I think to update us on his one, so I will carry forward 16:05 davidnind #action davidnind to look at previous meetings and add any current or still relevant items as tasks to Bugzilla 16:05 davidnind Not too many so far, I've addressed tow of mine but one still to do 16:04 davidnind #topic Review of action points 16:04 marie-luce davidnind++ 16:04 davidnind I eventually get there, sometimes... 16:03 caroline davidnind++ for reigniting this :) 16:03 davidnind and Hi everyone 16:03 davidnind Great to have so many people here! 16:02 lucyvh #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe 16:02 marie-luce #info marie-luce, inlibro Montreal, Canada 16:02 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 16:01 kellym #infor Kelly McElligott, ByWater Solutions 16:01 aude_c #info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK 16:01 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Quebec (Canada) 16:01 davidnind #info David Nind, New Zealand 16:01 davidnind #topic Introductions 16:01 davidnind #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_6_January_2022 16:00 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_6_january_2022' 16:00 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00 huginn` Meeting started Thu Jan 6 16:00:48 2022 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00 davidnind #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 6 January 2022 16:00 aude_c hello and happy new year to you all as well :-) 16:00 davidnind hi lucyvh, happy new year to you to! 15:58 lucyvh Hi all, happy new year! 15:56 marie-luce Hi David 15:55 davidnind hi marie-luce, happy new year to you to! 15:55 marie-luce thanks cait 15:54 cait hi marie-luce and happy new year to you too :) 15:54 marie-luce Happy new year! 15:54 marie-luce Hi all 15:07 cait yep - not sure what I looked at earlier! 15:04 oleonard My calendar says it's in an hour 15:04 cait and you are right about the time :) 15:03 cait ah - I see why, display issue 15:03 cait it's not showing in my calendar at all :( 15:03 caroline I have 11am in my calendar and it's 10 am now 15:03 cait oh! I am double checking 15:02 caroline I thought it was still in a nhour 15:02 caroline Are release notes still kept in the git repo? I'm not finding 21.05.01 + here https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/koha-release-notes 15:02 cait do i have the right time? 15:02 cait hm no davidnind yet :) 15:02 cait caroline: just happy to see you :) 15:00 caroline thank you! 14:59 oleonard caroline: No apologies necessary 14:58 caroline sorry I've been MIA for so long, last year was rough for me... now I feel like I'm integrating the community as if it's my first time! 14:50 oleonard As well as can be expected! 14:49 Brooke :) how's it going? 14:49 oleonard-away Hi Brooke 14:48 Brooke 0/ 14:41 caroline He told me he did all of this, but I can check again (onboarding while in lockdown is not easy let me tell you) 14:41 caroline Is it this part? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Configure_git-bz 14:40 tcohen (on git-bz) 14:40 tcohen did they set the bz credentials? 14:40 caroline yes 14:40 tcohen ? 14:40 tcohen git bz attach -e 29616 HEAD 14:37 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace library information popup in the OPAC with a modal 14:37 caroline our newest intern is trying to signoff bug 29616, but when he gets to git bz attach -e HEAD, he gets "Failed to update bug 29616, status=200" Anyone know how to resolve this? 14:22 cait back in a little for docs meeting 14:15 cait happy new year caroline :) 14:15 caroline Happy new year everyone!! 14:13 cait if you'd stop making more bugs/changes it'd be much easier to go through the bug mail! :) 13:26 cait by far 13:25 cait Joubu++ tcohen++ - that was not as bad as I had expected ;) 13:25 cait goign to dig into bug and mailing list mails for a little while now :) thx all! 13:25 tcohen elastic on the mac 13:25 cait aah 13:24 oleonard I think my problem is that those instructions don't work on macOS 13:24 cait oleonard: maybe use the chat to have anothre try and levelling up your mage? 13:23 cait just wondering - I am happy to know how to do it now and switching to zebra works as wlel 13:23 cait is there a reason we are not doing elastic by default? 13:22 tcohen everytime you bust something, just start over clean 13:22 cait well kd ku-es6 :) 13:22 tcohen cait: you will learn to love the kd + ku secquence 13:22 Joubu \o/ 13:22 cait it certainly seems so :) 13:22 cait elastic is working 13:22 tcohen QA is a way of living, cait 13:22 tcohen :-D 13:22 tcohen awesome 13:22 Joubu done 13:21 Joubu tcohen: I am doing it 13:21 cait looking better 13:20 cait I can't help to accidentally QA all the things I guess 13:19 cait heh 13:19 Joubu tcohen: ^^ 13:19 cait update README? :) 13:19 Joubu yes 13:19 cait kd ku-es6? 13:19 Joubu I've tried the command now and it's working with -a ;) 13:19 cait ah ok I'll run the second 13:18 cait not trusting yourself? :) 13:18 Joubu that's what the command does 13:18 Joubu and add "vm.max_map_count=262144" at the end 13:18 cait I suspected that 13:18 Joubu sudo vim /etc/sysctl.conf 13:18 Joubu or it will truncate /etc/sysctl.conf 13:18 cait ;) 13:18 cait sure? 13:18 Joubu *-a* 13:18 Joubu echo "vm.max_map_count=262144" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf 13:18 cait i am not going to ask what we just averted 13:17 Joubu pfiou 13:17 cait waiting 13:17 Joubu wait 13:17 Joubu try that ^ 13:17 Joubu echo "vm.max_map_count=262144" | sudo tee /etc/sysctl.conf 13:16 Joubu yes, the command is wrong 13:16 cait gives me a permission denied 13:16 cait sudo echo "vm.max_map_count=262144" >> /etc/sysctl.conf 13:16 cait the second line is not working for me 13:16 cait hm 13:15 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/#tldr 13:15 Joubu it's in the readme iirc 13:14 Joubu there is a trick 13:14 cait koha_es_1 exited with code 78 13:14 cait db_1 | 2022-01-06 13:12:24 140650976937728 [Note] InnoDB: Starting shutdown... 13:14 cait db_1 | 2022-01-06 13:12:24 140650079037184 [Note] InnoDB: FTS optimize thread exiting. 13:14 cait db_1 | 2022-01-06 13:12:24 140650976937728 [Note] Event Scheduler: Purging the queue. 0 events 13:14 cait db_1 | 2022-01-06 13:12:24 140650976937728 [Note] mysqld: Normal shutdown 13:14 cait db_1 | 2022-01-06 13:12:24+00:00 [Note] [Entrypoint]: Stopping temporary server 13:14 cait db_1 | 13:14 cait db_1 | 2022-01-06 13:12:24+00:00 [Note] [Entrypoint]: Giving user koha_kohadev access to schema koha_kohadev 13:14 cait db_1 | 2022-01-06 13:12:24+00:00 [Note] [Entrypoint]: Creating user koha_kohadev 13:14 cait db_1 | 2022-01-06 13:12:24+00:00 [Note] [Entrypoint]: Creating database koha_kohadev 13:14 cait db_1 | 2022-01-06 13:12:24 140650977244928 [Warning] 'proxies_priv' entry '@% root@8483a49c9004' ignored in --skip-name-resolve mode. 13:14 cait es_1 | [2022-01-06T13:12:24,014][INFO ][o.e.x.m.p.NativeController] [yuZdYLK] Native controller process has stopped - no new native processes can be started 13:14 Joubu yes, this is the start of the JVM, all good 13:13 cait ah there is more sec 13:13 cait https://paste.koha-community.org/7112?tx=on&wr=on&submit=Format+it%21 13:11 Joubu and try to catch the last line starting with "es_1" 13:11 cait ok 13:11 Joubu cait: try kd, then ku-es6 again, without -d 13:10 tcohen jenkins tells us it works 13:10 cait I'd love ot be able to test elastic again too 13:10 cait thx 13:09 Joubu I am starting it, pulling right now 13:08 cait any ideas what went wrong? 13:07 tcohen I have my own aliases for that reason, Joubu 13:07 cait it's not working 13:07 Joubu for instance with the aliases you cannot specify a DBMS version and an ES version 13:06 cait [NoNodes] ** No nodes are available: [http://es:9200], called from sub Search::Elasticsearch::Role::Client::Direct::__ANON__ at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/Indexer.pm line 415 13:06 cait i think this one is on oleonard 13:06 Joubu but so that you know, they only add additional docker-compose yml file to the `docker-compose -p koha up` command 13:05 Joubu I don't use the aliases 13:05 cait I wante to spend today testing... but switching to ktd might be worth spending the time 13:05 cait yes, I saw tuxayo's mail 13:04 tcohen and 6 will be sooner than we would want 13:04 cait ok 13:04 tcohen 5 is deprecated (elastic deprecated it) 13:04 Joubu I think so 13:04 cait so 6 is the good one usually? 13:03 Joubu I replied to use ku-esX ;) 13:03 cait does it not automatically select a nice one? 13:03 cait orrr, i was asking that :) 13:03 Joubu cait: run koha-es6 instead of ku 13:03 cait looks better 13:03 cait maybe it didn't finish , trying again 13:02 Joubu but she said she ran it :) 13:02 Joubu the kd 13:02 tcohen you forgot to run kd 13:02 cait what did I do wrong? 13:02 cait Database is not empty! at /kohadevbox/misc4dev/populate_db.pl line 101. 13:02 cait Running [sudo koha-shell kohadev -p -c 'PERL5LIB=/kohadevbox/koha:/kohadevbox/koha/lib:/kohadevbox/qa-test-tools perl /kohadevbox/misc4dev/populate_db.pl -v --opac-base-url http://kohadev.myDNSname.org:8080 --intranet-base-url http://kohadev-intra.myDNSname.org:8081 --marcflavour MARC21']... 13:01 cait and a ku -d 13:01 cait then did a kd 13:01 cait hm i set the .env for elastic 13:01 ngospodinov aha okey 13:01 Joubu I think you will need to set the env var AND use the alias with ku-esX 13:00 Joubu the alias will use different docker file for ES 13:00 cait because you increase the risk that they will receive multiple emails for one checkout session 13:00 cait I would not recommend to set this to a much shorter interval 13:00 cait the checkout emails are sent every 15 minutes 12:59 ngospodinov Hello. When a patron borrows a book, he receives an automatic email only after 10 minutes. Is there a way to send the email faster. The patron uses gmail 12:59 cait Joubu: so I don't need one of those other ku commands? 12:58 cait oh 12:56 Joubu set it to 1 12:56 Joubu 35 KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH= 12:56 Joubu /var/flag 12:56 Joubu there is a ELASTICSEARCH var 12:55 Joubu edit .env 12:54 oleonard In my experience if you want Elastic you have to be a 12th-level mage 12:51 cait if I want Elastic, which one would I use? 12:50 cait ku -d 12:49 tcohen now most of the things will be familiar to you, as we basically migrated kohadevbox here 12:48 cait yep foudn that already 12:48 tcohen kshell 12:48 tcohen now you enter KTD using 12:48 tcohen yeah :-D 12:48 tcohen it will sit there on that terminal, it just prints any init script output 12:48 cait now i get the -d 12:48 tcohen it is done 12:48 tcohen :-D 12:47 cait Zebra is working too, returning results... 12:45 cait i have a koha :) 12:45 cait or is it just done? 12:44 cait tcohen: not moving from there - anything I could check? 12:42 cait first time i'll see that n action if it works, rabbitmq wasn't there on my kohadevbox 12:42 cait koha_1 | Starting RabbitMQ Messaging Server: rabbitmq-server. 12:42 cait We are her now, taking a while 12:40 cait we are reindexing :) 12:39 cait watching it now again 12:39 tcohen now ku 12:39 cait yep did that first 12:39 tcohen to take it down 12:39 tcohen kd 12:38 cait redo? 12:38 cait new terminal 12:38 cait ok, sync_repo pointing now to the right koha repo 12:38 tcohen ah, yes 12:38 tcohen and then call reset_all in KTD 12:38 cait maybe we focus on master for onw 12:38 tcohen I git checkout 20.11.x 12:37 tcohen and if I need to test something on 21.05 or 20.11 12:37 tcohen I have the master-buster docker image 12:37 tcohen ^^ that's what I do due to my bandwidth limitations 12:37 cait ? 12:37 tcohen or you can have a working master one, switch to 20.11 your codebase, and make a few tweaks before callling reset_all 12:36 cait i used to switch between 2 with the kohadevbox (just don't ask) 12:36 cait th erepo it pointed too was ancient 12:36 tcohen you can export KOHA_IMAGE=20.11-buster 12:36 cait yes, i am on it 12:36 tcohen if you want to test past branches 12:35 tcohen then make sure SYNC_REPO points to the right repo 12:35 tcohen so it takes all the things down 12:35 tcohen run kd 12:35 tcohen kd 12:35 cait i'll fix that env variable, what do i need to do after that? 12:34 cait it's the wrong git repo for koha 12:34 cait i see what happened 12:34 wahanui i think master is the WIP version. In May, whatever is in the master will become version 19.05 and we'll continue to work on it for the 19.11 version 12:34 tcohen or master? 12:34 tcohen is it 20.11? 12:34 cait hmm 12:33 cait ah in kohaclone... not far from master for sure, i was testing beginning ofo the week sec 12:33 cait master 12:33 tcohen what branch are you on (kohaclone) 12:33 tcohen or is it an ancient image? 12:33 tcohen did it actually pull koha/koha-testing? 12:32 cait https://paste.koha-community.org/7109 12:31 cait yep, i think we have issues 12:31 cait ? 12:31 cait koha_koha_1 exited with code 1 12:30 tcohen and? 12:20 cait yep 12:20 tcohen baby steps 12:20 cait let's keep it simple fo rnow :) 12:19 tcohen docker logs -f koha_koha_1 12:19 tcohen and you can see the progress with 12:19 cait that's ok, i can have another terminal... 12:18 tcohen so it doesn't take over the terminal 12:18 tcohen I usually launch it with -d at the end, cait 12:17 tcohen that don't need to be downloaded all the time 12:17 tcohen right, because it is downloading things 12:16 cait it#s only taking this long the first time... right? 12:12 tcohen :-D 12:11 tcohen good thinking 12:11 cait QA... right? 12:11 cait i might need it to run tests 12:11 cait 3: Pulling from selenium/standalone-firefox 12:11 tcohen if you don't need selenium... 12:11 cait yes i tihnk so 12:11 tcohen downloading? 12:10 cait i think it's at selenium 12:10 cait the tea is nice while watching it do stuff for sure 12:09 cait I'll update nice to awesome then :) 12:09 oleonard Yes 12:08 cait could it output the URL/img tag to use too? 12:08 tcohen nice! 12:08 cait nice too 12:08 cait nie! 12:08 oleonard Here's something I was tinkering with yesterday: https://snipboard.io/PtBDoj.jpg 12:07 cait tcohen++ Joubu++ oleonard++ 12:05 tcohen :-D 12:03 cait we'll see what happens, we are not done yet! 12:03 cait nothing fancy, just a bag of earl grey 12:02 tcohen cait++ # share some of that tea 12:02 tcohen oleonard++ 12:02 tcohen shouldn't we make 10.3 the default DB? 12:02 oleonard I think it was the tea that did it 12:02 tcohen awesome :-D 12:00 cait 10.1: Pulling from library/mariadb 11:59 cait good news - it seems to have done the trick 11:56 cait brb, I'll try a reboot 11:55 cait did you run into this by chance? https://paste.koha-community.org/7106 11:54 oleonard In my experience the transition is rough but worth it 11:53 cait be warned... grumpy cait deleted her kohadevbox repo and is now trying to switch to ktd with the usual unexplainable errors :( 11:53 wahanui hi oleopard 11:53 cait hi oleonard 11:52 oleonard o/ 11:52 cait re 11:45 cait brb, fixing grumpiness with tea 11:44 cait it reported it all as uninstalled, but the instructions said not to worry 11:44 cait i ran this sudo apt-get remove docker docker-engine docker.io containerd runc 11:42 Joubu did you remove the .io package? 11:42 cait same error 11:42 cait well, it's installing, not working yet, the computer is working on intalling it 11:41 cait it's working 11:41 tcohen :-D 11:41 tcohen once you QA this step 11:41 tcohen we can update them 11:41 cait sorry, a little grumpy 11:40 cait then maybe udate the instructions 11:39 tcohen that's why I suggest that 11:39 tcohen cait: I have always had issues with the distro docker 11:38 cait Joubu: i have found the same and someone eet it to 666 which another commented was very unsafe 11:38 tcohen I'm on Ubuntu 21.10 with the official Docker 11:38 cait tcohen: I can, but it seems bad 11:37 Joubu maybe not related, it's django there 11:37 Joubu they are saying there is a perm issue on the docker socket 11:37 Joubu https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56784492/permissionerror-errno-13-permission-denied-manage-py 11:36 tcohen cait: can you install the official docker package as I suggested? 11:34 cait the instructions never work for me - I had you all warned about trying to switch me over *sighs* 11:34 Joubu weird 11:34 Joubu The internet is saying that you need to install docker.io, but it's what you did 11:33 cait i am logged in as me 11:32 Joubu are you logged in as root? 11:31 cait in the last line 11:31 cait docker:x:145:katrin 11:31 cait yes? 11:31 tcohen cat /etc/group 11:30 Joubu ha 11:30 cait no change 11:30 cait i logged out and logged in even 11:30 Joubu open a new terminal, maybe, and try again 11:30 cait yes 11:30 Joubu did you run the usermod command? 11:29 cait i am trying ku 11:29 Joubu which command are you running? docker-compose up? 11:29 cait it seems to have installed and is running 11:29 cait why? 11:28 cait systemctl status docker.service is green if that helps 11:28 tcohen ^^ use those instructions, cait 11:28 tcohen https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/ubuntu/ 11:28 tcohen Joubu: exactly 11:28 cait i installed it using apt-get per instructions 11:27 cait ? 11:27 tcohen docker-ce? 11:27 cait newest ubuntu 11:27 Joubu so maybe a sudo is missing, but you shouldn't need it 11:27 tcohen cait: what OS are you using? how did you install docker? 11:27 Joubu the error is "permission denied" 11:27 Joubu cait: which command are you running? 11:26 cait should I have a $DOCKER_HOST env variable too? (googling) 11:26 Joubu tcohen: ^^ 11:26 pastebot Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "@ Koha/Template/Plugin/Branche" (16 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/7107 11:24 cait https://paste.koha-community.org/7106 11:19 cait tcohen: same, splodes 11:18 tcohen so just run what the instructions say heh 11:16 cait so leave unchanged it is? 11:16 cait yes 11:15 tcohen set | grep USER 11:15 tcohen cait: USER is always set on unix 11:04 cait check the SYNC_REPO one onw 11:03 cait the instructions, trying to see what you meant there, but just my user worked 11:03 tcohen what is that, cait? 11:02 cait i guess not 11:02 cait do I leave hte ${? 11:01 cait what I said, me :) katrin 11:01 Joubu echo $USER 11:01 cait ok 11:00 Joubu don't replace 11:00 Joubu no 11:00 cait ${USER} < replace with me? 10:59 cait Joubu: need to fix my koha first now :( 10:59 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29805 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Database update fails in MySQL 5.7 because it's missing REGEXP_REPLACE 10:59 Joubu bug 29805 10:58 cait i am scared 10:58 tcohen it is :-D 10:58 tcohen :-D 10:54 cait is this a good day to switch? 10:54 cait tcohen: you will be happy... i accidentally deleted my kohadevbox repo *sigh* 10:50 cait everyone has gone? oh. 10:46 cait re 10:42 cait restarting, brb. 10:40 cait i think also the shipped ones usually? 10:40 tcohen what about Perl versions? 10:39 cait should we make a note to drop support for the old ubuntus asap? 10:38 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29805 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Database update fails in MySQL 5.7 because it's missing REGEXP_REPLACE 10:38 Joubu I will submit a patch on bug 29805 10:38 cait with the old versions, the wiki page is linked from the release notes for requirements 10:38 cait no but ubuntu is mentioned 10:36 tcohen there's no mention of MySQL 10:36 tcohen ah, they don't tell 10:33 tcohen what counts is the release notes 10:33 cait so we promised it would work I guess :( 10:32 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_requirements_and_recommendations 10:32 cait we do list Ubuntu 18.04 Ubuntu 16.04 for 21.11 10:31 tcohen 18.04 has extended security support up to... 2028 10:31 cait i couldn't find the info, so better to make sure we have that written down 10:31 tcohen https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle 10:31 cait just for documentation 10:31 cait I am not voting for endless support 10:30 tcohen I agree 10:30 Joubu yes but we announced the release and its requirements 10:30 tcohen Joubu: I agree, just saying we put ourselves into trouble sometimes... 10:30 tcohen we cannot be backwards compatible with all the things 10:30 Joubu otoh it's easy to adjust the code and do the replace in perl... 10:29 tcohen which is our only LTS release 10:29 tcohen we should only support Bionic on 19.11... 10:29 tcohen I think... 10:26 cait but giving us trouble? 10:26 cait so not officially unsupported yet 10:26 Joubu 5.7 is in Bionic/18.04 10:26 Joubu https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mysql&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all 10:25 cait are we? 10:25 tcohen we are so cool sometimes :-D 10:19 cait if we don't support 5.7, we should at least note it somewhere 10:19 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29805 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Database update fails in MySQL 5.7 because it's missing REGEXP_REPLACE 10:19 cait i have filed bug 29805 10:19 tcohen trivial fix, patches just submitted 10:19 tcohen found in production 10:18 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29804 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Koha::Hold->is_pickup_location_valid explodes if empty list of pickup locations 10:18 tcohen can I mention bug 29804 10:18 tcohen :-D 10:16 ashimema tuxayo was your man.. he was the last person to properly dig into dependencies and supported versions. 🙂 10:15 cait i have just replied he rmai lto me to the mailing list - maybe have a look 10:14 cait I just wonder if I should file a bug or recommend installing a newer dbms? 10:13 cait 10.0.5 for REGEXP_REPALCE in mariadb so that would fit 10:13 ashimema but you now have to actively try to install mysql instead of maria 10:13 ashimema I think the oldest debian that's currently in support has switched to maria.. but you can install mysql 8.. not sure how far back the mysql support on the oldest support debian goes 10:13 Joubu mean *from* MariaDB 10.1 10:12 Joubu MariaDB 10.1, no idea for MySQL 10:12 cait oh got all the right people 10:12 tcohen good morning 10:12 ashimema indeed 10:12 cait i can only find it in the 8.0 manual 10:12 Joubu we should support DBMS versions brought by the OSes we support 10:12 ashimema but I can't entirely remember the discussion 10:12 ashimema I think we recently dropped 5.5 support 10:12 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_requirements_and_recommendations 10:12 cait and our wiki only lists mariadb versions now 10:11 cait so the additional contents update fails 10:11 cait it looks like REGEXP_REPLACE is ont in 5.7 10:11 cait what is our current policy for mysql support? 10:11 ashimema good morning #koha friends 10:11 Joubu cait: yes 10:09 cait Joubu: around? 09:56 Jean38 Ok, thank you. I'll repost on the general list. 09:52 davidnind same to you! 09:50 cait hi davidnind - happy new year :) 09:49 davidnind hi cait! 09:49 davidnind I'm not aware of an out of the box feature that would do that, but there are reports, notices and cronjobs, so a combination of these may work. 09:49 cait hello #koha 09:48 davidnind It's a bit quite on IRC at the moment with holidays, etc. Maybe post to the general Koha list and see if you get a response. 09:40 Jean38 I don't know much about Koha, so I'll start with looking into that report feature I guess. But I'm surprised, as it doesn't seem to be a backed-in feature. Surely most libraries must be sending some kind of newsletter of latest arrivals... 09:40 Jean38 I don't know much about Koha, so I'll start with looking into that report feature I guess. But I'm surprised, as it doesn't seem to be a backed-in feature. Surely most libraries must be sending some kind of newsletter on latest arrivals... 09:39 Jean38 hmm ok, I can look into reports to check. Ideally it would be some dedicated feature though, considering html email is usually dumbed down to tables for broad compatibility. Also, being able to get a template and separate steps (select period of time to extract arrivals from, choose between text-only and html+image format, ability to exclude some of the results before generating the email-optimized html code). 09:30 davidnind Jean38: I've sure of heard of something similar being done - you could create and run a report to get the list of latest arrivals to include in your newsletter 09:18 Jean38 Hi there, I am looking for a way to generate html email of latest arrivals from Koha. We want to send our members a newsletter with the latest arrival. I'm not finding anything about that doing online search. Is it possible, via Koha or an additional plugin? 09:12 magnuse \o/ 08:01 wahanui hello, alex_a 08:01 alex_a Bonjour 06:37 ngospodinov If anyone can help me I will be grateful. 06:34 ngospodinov I am using version 20.05 06:34 ngospodinov Good morning all.I am writing in connection with the attached electronic copy to an existing bibliographic record. The electronic copy is the scanned book in PDF format. The bibliographic record is on the same book. An item with a barcode, inv. number, author, title, etc has been created in this bibliographic record. My question is this: 1. After deducting (hiding it for users in OPAC) this item is there a way for users to see the attachment. 06:11 reiveune hello 03:48 triveni anybody can help me CPU and disk utilization is very high again and again 03:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1880: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1880/ 02:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1846: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1846/ 02:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U21 build #60: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U21/60/ 02:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1879: UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1879/ 02:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #271: UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/271/ 01:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #719: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_My8/719/ 01:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U21 build #59: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U21/59/ 01:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_CPAN build #505: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_CPAN/505/ 01:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #502: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/502/ 01:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #348: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Stable/348/ 01:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest build #760: SUCCESS in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest/760/ 00:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D12 build #52: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D12/52/ 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29503: Regression tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b432cec1d904af62655a77cc91a707a3820e356> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29503: Make GET /patrons use Koha::Patrons->search_limited <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=152bc1f04eb075ea2f3f276e5371263704586a81> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29506: Regression tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=91123608b25cc9413eda768c812c051376cbd23f> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29506: Make objects.search call search_limited if present <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13fba03080af3389217ca0c152a08521e0b9cd42> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29506: (follow-up) Adapt GET /patrons <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9cb8e5879a1cfac2bbe8e878107c47832164f56> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29508: Regression tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d46debdff26d1bc0290149e0da3d1f8ae60cf9cb> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29508: Make GET /patrons/:patron_id use Koha::Patrons->search_limited <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=895fc88605f7381218b38463be17531a06403c1a> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29680: Change markup to correct button radius <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=724f53e5ec86667fa74590da086e69403c1ae542> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29741: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b28f35efbfa85bf69b5eb784b887e9ded779bd0d> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29741: Add Koha::Patron->safe_to_delete <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3f19f1e95fff652fdc889e01ff2f75b38055bae> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29741: (follow-up) Make DELETE /patrons use the new validation method <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbd69d66506fbde8a6b8a2b2120d962561bd32b6> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29746: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01a38cfebd943602c35b2440d0be2f6578eec6a4> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29746: Add Koha::Result::Boolean <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8ab17f82326e34b7a6708e636ab56230a7399a0> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29765: Make Koha::Patron->safe_to_delete use Koha::Result::Boolean <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed2acc9266bd3edd563243232d219ef2e3fadef9> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29765: Adjust DELETE /patrons/:patron_id controller <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=770e263b870377e03100d5ec232fa98e6d5153f2> 00:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28020: (follow-up) Add docs about error_code on the API <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7b6a85de591df246e1c11b94e0bffac47f23f78> 00:04 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29772: Regression tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3fe6a4ba399b92d061dfb92446d9d259915ccf9> 00:04 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29772: Make DELETE /patrons/:patron_id return error codes <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=82c32a1aa50a86b87d303014866d48a2a747700c> 00:04 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29772: (follow-up) Document error codes <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf86a5554deb417dc7be4040d5a5997778c835c2> 00:04 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29746: (it-doesn't-hurt follow-up) More tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=367a90ca189b0c3f49a7b3a87ce023070a7f05ea>