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19:53 tcohen        hi!
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17:17 tuxayo        oh :o
17:17 tuxayo        > there was no live stream
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17:03 cait1         bye all and have a nice weekend!
17:03 cait1         tuxayo: there was no live stream
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16:27 oleonard      Bye reiveune !
16:26 reiveune      bye
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15:22 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29427 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to oldstable , Debug mode not honoured in SMTP transport
15:22 koha-jenkins  tcohen: Bug 29427: Make SMTP transport set debug mode correctly
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15:15 oleonard-away Kohacon? As far as I know they haven't posted anything
15:15 tuxayo        *seen?
15:15 tuxayo        has anyone seem some of the talks?
15:15 tuxayo        Koha was/is this week! :o
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14:18 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29427 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to oldstable , Debug mode not honoured in SMTP transport
14:18 koha-jenkins  tcohen: Bug 29427: Make SMTP transport set debug mode correctly
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13:27 cait1         vfernandes: sounds like you should report a bug
13:20 vfernandes    after doing some debug, if we use QueryAutoTruncate, the method get_usage_count will search for authid* which can lead to incorrect results
13:17 vfernandes    why have two methods? shouldn't the result be the same?
13:16 vfernandes    the records count in the authorities search results is correct, the records count in the authority details isn't correct
13:15 vfernandes    quick question: I'm getting different count results for authorities using the method get_usage_count (https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/v21.05.07/Koha/Authorities.pm#L50) and using the method count_auth_use (https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/v21.05.07/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/Search.pm#L263)
13:12 vfernandes    hi #koha
12:54 ashimema      hehe
12:54 Joubu         but yeah, code might be wrong :)
12:53 Joubu         in practice I am pretty sure we don't do that, ampm is passed without dateformat and the syspref's value is used
12:52 ashimema      ever
12:52 ashimema      honestly.. I have no idea when am/pm strings are getting passed in
12:52 ashimema      in theory.. we should.. as ISO shouldn't support it.
12:51 ashimema      right now.. if you suggest it's iso you can still pass am/pm and we won't fail
12:51 ashimema      which is kinda crazy
12:51 ashimema      but the iso standard prior to 2004 allowed for them
12:51 ashimema      like.. 2004 they removed double digit dates and required 4 chars
12:50 ashimema      I believe
12:50 ashimema      mysql does return iso.. but an ISO from many years ago 😉
12:50 Joubu         I don't think we pass am/pm with iso
12:50 cait1         between iso and sql?
12:50 wahanui       the difference is, like, that Koha doesn't support what you wnt in any other place :)
12:50 cait1         what's the difference?
12:50 ashimema      it would be more code, but much clearer code
12:50 Joubu         (and why doesn't mysql return iso?!)
12:50 ashimema      I'd be game for a proper distinction
12:50 ashimema      yeah
12:50 ashimema      if we wanted to be fully iso.. then we'd forbid passing am/pm
12:50 Joubu         as we are sending "iso" when it's actually "sql"
12:49 Joubu         We certainly need to distinguish "sql" and "iso"
12:49 ashimema      but also wouldn't hurt.. right?
12:49 ashimema      indeed
12:49 Joubu         anyway, not important
12:49 Joubu         The support is really only for DT strinfigication, which is using T
12:48 ashimema      whilst the standard suggests it should be T.. the expectation in real life is that the parsing is generally case insensative
12:48 wahanui       basically is checks the Bugzilla statuses are correct, then updates the status, adds the 'released in versions' text and adds a comment
12:48 ashimema      basically..
12:48 ashimema      and yielded to someone asking for it to be.. when I was going about the same thing for the RFC3339 handling
12:48 ashimema      I've been here before 😉
12:47 ashimema      it's been buggy for years.. it's awesome we're getting it better
12:47 Joubu         already wondering why T should be insensitive however :D
12:47 ashimema      no rush
12:47 Joubu         ashimema: ok I will get back to it next week.
12:46 ashimema      hehe
12:46 oleonard      "submitting patches" bad is my favorite kind of bad.
12:45 * ashimema    has been bad today.
12:45 ashimema      and now.. I really need to stop procratinating and get back to my task list..
12:45 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , DateTime - our 'iso' is not ISO 8601
12:45 ashimema      I posted comments and patches to bug 29718
12:45 ashimema      no worries
12:43 Joubu         ashimema: not really, but shoot
12:00 ashimema      Joubu still around?
11:59 ashimema      lol, digging back into ISO dates is hilarious.
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11:52 wahanui       Congratulations!
11:52 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
11:26 wahanui       hi oleopard
11:26 cait1         hi oleonard
11:21 oleonard      Hi #koha
11:10 cait1         I am to blame too... just trying to get better, also giving earlier feedback on nso bugs where we can
11:10 cait1         but especially the old to new doesn't work well - I have been asking for the same bugs again and again over last cycle there
11:09 tcohen        hi ashimema
11:09 cait1         I think the only thing we can do right now is prioritize... (bugs before enh) and oldest to newest...
11:09 tcohen        hola #koha
11:09 ashimema      wish I had a solution
11:09 ashimema      exactly
11:09 cait1         so it's probably not an issue of slwo, it's overall a matter of backlog and missing hours
11:07 ashimema      indeed
11:05 cait1         all the bugs, that won't get tested by testers not close to the code
11:04 cait1         also the devs don't check on NSO bugs a lot - and so architecture/internals get stuck
11:04 cait1         and we don't have balance right now
11:01 cait1         you did...
10:59 cait1         For being slow to get code in... I think ti boils down to people writing more code than reviewing - for our model we need double the review time to write code time to blance it out...
10:58 marcelr       htg
10:57 marcelr       i warned you :)
10:57 marcelr       dont do it cait
10:55 cait1         ... and so much to read back here
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10:55 wahanui       Congratulations!
10:55 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
10:53 cait1         well... maybe not hell, but I could do with some chocolate and less rules
10:53 * cait1       is in hell today entering circulation rules
10:53 cait1         thx for mentioning chocolate .)
10:45 ashimema      you guys have pulled me out of a defeatist stupor a few times in recent times of late 🙂
10:44 ashimema      I think we're all feeling the pain recently.. we certainly need an in person meet up some time to 'chew the cud' and have a drink/chocolate/whatever together
10:43 marcelr       i am glad to have contributed to a critical patch today; two hours ago i felt different ;)
10:40 ashimema      my initial mistake.. but the fix, though simple, caused us all sorts of pain
10:40 ashimema      it was a big of a painful one that..
10:40 ashimema      thanks dude
10:40 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29457 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Fee Cancellation records the wrong manager_id
10:40 marcelr       bug 29457 in PQA for the last time
10:34 marcelr       Will fix this: File must have the exec flag
10:34 ashimema      and on the odd occasions I go and do a SO queue purge.. I tend to grab all the smaller looking one's and move them straight through doing an SO + QA in one wherever I feel I can
10:33 ashimema      so for the small ones, I often miss then
10:33 ashimema      as for 'small bugs that never get SO attention.. personally I'd be happy for them to go straight to the QA queue.. I try to focus my efforts on QA unless specifically prompted to look at an SO..
10:32 ashimema      cool
10:32 marcelr       yes
10:32 ashimema      they're on my list.. I just haven't found a moment to test them fully
10:31 ashimema      marcelr, did you see Joubu's 2FA patches already?
10:30 marcelr       Joubu: finally i send my reply; ashimema helped me do it
10:29 ashimema      thanks
10:29 marcelr       can we wake up fridolin lol
10:29 marcelr       i will have a look right now
10:21 ashimema      ok
10:21 marcelr       please submit
10:21 ashimema      fair
10:21 marcelr       or so
10:20 marcelr       You can ignore this remark if you saw it before?
10:20 marcelr       and note that this can be the second time
10:19 ashimema      literally something like: 'You might have some incorrect data for account cancellation lines, see the bug for details'
10:19 ashimema      exactly..
10:19 marcelr       no sql statements
10:19 marcelr       or yes, a very very general remark that you will be writing now ?
10:18 marcelr       can we get it out of discussion by doing so ?
10:18 marcelr       hence my remark earlier: just push the fix
10:17 ashimema      there's no wording that can fit inside the db update that will be totally clear
10:17 ashimema      the point is..
10:17 ashimema      they read the comments on the bug to understand
10:17 ashimema      or not
10:17 marcelr       ashimema: no the second run will confuse people since things will have changed in the meantime with correct data
10:16 marcelr       the comment on the bug lists two sql options
10:16 marcelr       you are free to remove my patch and submit a new one :)
10:14 ashimema      we don't give any directions of anything to actually do
10:14 paxed         Waiting for table metadata lock
10:14 ashimema      you still only tell them to check the comments of the bug
10:14 paxed         god damn it
10:14 ashimema      if we make the comment generic enough the second run doesn't matter
10:12 marcelr       add a local pref, set it and skip the warn the second time
10:12 marcelr       ashimema: the problem is the second run
10:11 * ashimema    goes to get tea
10:10 ashimema      leave it to the administrator to read the discussion and come to their own conclusion?
10:10 ashimema      or something along those lines
10:10 ashimema      'You might have some incorrect data for account cancellation lines, see the bug for details'
10:10 ashimema      just output the message saying
10:10 ashimema      the db update does nothing, not even a lookup
10:09 ashimema      How about we just generalise the comment down again
09:57 ashimema      I've not managed to get on with todays real tasks yet
09:57 ashimema      I can add a followup with that now
09:54 ashimema      I wondered about a temporary syspref approach too
09:52 ashimema      I replied to your post at last
09:51 marcelr       but i wont write code on that report anymore now
09:50 marcelr       we could add a temporary local syspref to store the first event that we warn
09:46 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Store each database migrations state in database
09:46 Joubu         Worth noting that the problem appears because we don't have bug 27880. Maybe time to focus on it for next time something like that happens..
09:46 Joubu         this will be true and display incorrect warnings
09:45 Joubu         +        my ( $count_bad ) = $dbh->selectrow_array( q{SELECT COUNT(*) FROM accountlines WHERE credit_type_code = 'CANCELLATION' AND manager_id IS NOT NULL} );
09:45 Joubu         the problem is the backport. With your patch backported, the warning is irrelevant
09:42 marcelr       it is an edge case
09:42 Joubu         at least we know the situation
09:42 marcelr       the warn is for most people irrelevant
09:41 marcelr       i dont understand: without the fix we are better off, you mean?
09:41 Joubu         but at least now we can warn in one situation
09:40 Joubu         2x impossible
09:40 Joubu         it's already impossible to deal with the problem now, it will be really impossible once the fix is pushed and backported
09:38 marcelr       split the report?
09:38 marcelr       the fix needs to be pushed
09:38 marcelr       i spent hours already there changing the dbrev, and now again discussion?
09:35 Joubu         what's your suggestion? Never warn?
09:34 marcelr       no reason to wait?
09:34 marcelr       if we cant agree about the warnings, please push the fix on its own !
09:33 marcelr       why is bug 29457 in discussion again ?
09:31 paxed         end of the year crunch. thankfully we finished ours last week, moving 8 old consortia to a new hosting provider
09:30 Joubu         and the 6 majors..
09:29 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29457 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, In Discussion , Fee Cancellation records the wrong manager_id
09:29 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29696 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , "Suggest for purchase" missing biblio link
09:29 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29689 blocker, P4, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Update to 21.11 broken auto-generated barcode in <branchcode>0001 option
09:29 ashimema      that's where I focus the majority of my community time
09:29 Joubu         bug 29689, bug 29696, bug 29457
09:29 ashimema      indeed
09:29 Joubu         top priority is always the same, dashboard > criticals and blockers
09:29 Joubu         to be honest, it's not the top priority
09:25 * ashimema    is trying to get better at managing his time
09:24 ashimema      It's a lack of time and serious customer deadlines looming that I'm struggling with
09:24 ashimema      I also need to reply
09:18 marcelr       Joubu i still must send that reply
09:11 Joubu         almost nobody replies :)
09:10 Joubu         I sent an email to offer my help for the next 6 months, on specific topics
09:10 paxed         marcelr: i share your sentiment. re. so slowness (and how hard it is to get code in)
09:10 Joubu         marcelr: that's the typical type of answer I was expected for my "dev list for 22.05" email ;)
09:08 ashimema      My bad
09:08 ashimema      Ah, insee
09:08 Joubu         marcelr: let's work on that next week, I cannot today
09:08 marcelr       ok
09:07 ashimema      Typing from phone here whilst on the school run ;)
09:07 marcelr       ^
09:07 ashimema      Please add 'bug' so I get quick links and descriptions ;)
09:07 marcelr       29390
09:07 marcelr       29309 can be quite nasty
09:06 ashimema      Perhaps, for some select devs we should allow them to skip SO so they hit the QA queue instead
09:06 Joubu         didn't*
09:06 Joubu         you let me a comment on 29390 and I did reply
09:06 marcelr       thats a deadlock: i dont start on the second before some response on the first
09:06 Joubu         ha :D
09:05 Joubu         and 29390 does not have patches
09:05 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29390 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Authorised values: Why not adding the FK on the way?
09:05 Joubu         "This one should be pushed along with bug 29390 in my opinion."
09:05 Joubu         marcelr: I let you a comment
09:05 ashimema      Hugs
09:05 marcelr       once again
09:04 marcelr       if it takes three months to signoff patches with 10 lines, i am out
09:04 ashimema      I can try to take a look at those though
09:04 marcelr       right
09:04 ashimema      I don't like dropping developments, but there is only so many hours in a day and not enough people interested in testing and QAing
09:04 * paxed       frowns at SendCirculationAlert and boos
09:03 ashimema      It's hard
09:03 paxed         oh joy. "Waiting for table metadata lock"
09:03 marcelr       hmm
09:03 wahanui       it has been said that marcelr is just amazed that next is faster than count
09:03 nlegrand      hey marcelr
09:03 marcelr       i am in the drop development mood now
09:03 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29336 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Some authorised_value FKs are too short
09:03 ashimema      bug 29336
09:02 marcelr       hi nlegrand
09:02 nlegrand      a good day
09:02 marcelr       does anyone want to test 29336 ?
08:59 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28943 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Lower the risk of accidental patron deletion by cleanup_database.pl
08:59 marcelr       bug 28943
08:59 Joubu         and so we *don't* actually have a perltidyrc in qa-test-tools
08:59 huginn`       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28962 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Unverified self registrations should be removed shortly
08:59 wahanui       bug 28962 is, like, ready for signoff
08:59 marcelr       bug 28962
08:59 marcelr       if no one cares for 28962 or 28943 i will close them within a few weeks just like two others i already dropped
08:58 fridolin      with a 4K screen there is virtualy no limit ^^
08:58 ashimema      It's very arbitrary and small given I don't know if any terminal emulators that limit that these days
08:57 ashimema      I don't agree with Max line 80 these days..
08:55 marcelr       i hope we are not starting spaces and tabs again ;)
08:55 fridolin      https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/xt/perltidyrc
08:54 fridolin      --maximum-line-length=178 i see
08:53 fridolin      oki ouf
08:52 Joubu         max line length must not be enforced to 80, we are not ready for that..
08:51 fridolin      aaaa be have also xt/perltidyrc
08:51 cait1         ah
08:51 Joubu         * we have perltidyrc in the QA repo
08:51 Joubu         isn't the we have perltidyrc in the QA repo
08:49 davidnind     Add to .editorconfig ?
08:46 fridolin      Joubu: can you confirm the maximum line length is defautl value 80 please ?
08:43 fridolin      max line length i mean
08:43 cait1         ah ok, I was thinking perlcritic, sorry
08:43 fridolin      i'll leave what is in master but i'll be carefull for next time
08:42 cait1         in the project I man or used to have
08:42 fridolin      same result now
08:42 cait1         i think we have one
08:42 fridolin      Ok i found max lines 80 whas missing in my IDE config for PerlTidy
08:33 fridolin      +1
08:29 * ashimema    opinion
08:29 ashimema      We aught to have a perltidyrc in the project, even if it reflects the defaults so we can ensure anyone's local perltidy gets overridden without have to have them manually add nopro
08:27 ashimema      I had a mojo inspired perltidy sometime ago . But I assumed we had a project specific one in Koha and haven't actually checked for it in years
08:26 ashimema      I bet my perltidy setup is wrong
08:25 ashimema      Interesting, not earn that page for a while
08:18 fridolin      https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Perltidy ?
08:17 Joubu         perltidy
08:14 fridolin      is there a special config ?
08:14 fridolin      Joubu: ah i use perl tidy in my IDE, i should use CLI
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08:12 Joubu         it's not consistent, if you decide to clean it should be consistent (space before/after, etc.)
08:11 Joubu         fridolin: what do you use to "format" code? - https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=128640
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08:08 marcelr       hi cait1
08:04 cait1         good morning #koha
07:55 alex_a        Bonjour
07:04 marcelr       hi #koha
05:53 wahanui       kia ora, reiveune
05:53 reiveune      hello
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00:44 bag           ha
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00:32 huginn`       News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 29403: Unit tests" <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dda19c7811fc05615b42c583b31d83160d4880d6>
00:32 huginn`       News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 29403: Match the whole string" <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a11ccd2d28f1c6040061d9ea6f3842a3d879c3f5>
00:32 huginn`       News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 29403: Fix api/v1/patrons.t" <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bfba3740b92f132365bb4046c84892455dd1ba8>
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