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06:18 magnuse      ouch?
06:18 tuxayo       the builds?
06:18 tuxayo       hi magnuse  :)
07:13 magnuse      hiya tuxayo - yeah the ouch was for the builds
07:36 cait         hm is there a way to see the releases on the new git?
07:36 cait         I get an empty page when looking at "Releases"
07:36 cait         ah ok, Tags looks better
07:56 cait         noone here too :)
08:32 magnuse      kia ora cait
08:37 magnuse      if a library wants to forgive all OVERDUE fines generated between date1 and date2, there is no tool or script to help with that, right?
08:42 cait         i think there is a waive fines script in the latest version now
08:42 cait         but not sure about the overdues - you'd only want to update the non-accruing
09:07 magnuse      hm, guess i never understood accruing fines... is it a fine where the document is still on loan, so new fines are accruing?
09:08 ashimema     correct
09:09 ashimema     bug 27049
09:09 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27049 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Add a script to bulk writeoff debts
09:09 ashimema     you can filter on type of debt and before a certain date
09:09 ashimema     using that script
09:10 ashimema     the idea being that it runs in the cron before running delete_borrowers and finally cleanup_database
09:10 ashimema     giving you fine grained control of writing off debts
09:10 ashimema     then moving borrowers to deleted
09:10 ashimema     and finally deleting the borrower from the database forever
09:10 ashimema     but.. it'll work for other use cases
09:11 ashimema     there's not 'between' handling though.. just 'before'
09:11 ashimema     you can pass it a file though...
09:12 ashimema     so if you can write a report to get the accountline id's you want
09:12 ashimema     you can pass the result file to the script
09:12 ashimema     magnuse: ^
09:18 magnuse      cool, thanks!
09:22 magnuse      and if a fine is already paid in part or in full it will handle that properly?
09:23 * magnuse    wonders if that script will work on a 20.11.x install...
09:27 magnuse      running without --confirm seems ok, at least
09:28 ashimema     :)
09:29 ashimema     interesting
09:29 ashimema     it appears to writeoff 'amount' rather than 'amountoutstanding'
09:29 ashimema     that feels a little wrong actually :(
09:30 ashimema     it's also "dumb" in so much as it doesn't account for 'status'..
09:30 ashimema     so if a fine is still accruing it will continue to accrue after
09:30 ashimema     it doesn't "fix" the fine
09:30 ashimema     I think that bit was deliberate
09:31 ashimema     but the 'writeoff all' rather than 'writeoff outstanding' wasn't
09:31 ashimema     my bad
09:31 ashimema     if you want a quick and dirty fix.. just replace the 'amount' accessors on lines 74 and 77 with 'amountoutstanding'
09:32 magnuse      so if a patron had a fine of 220, then paid 20... will they be left with a credit of 20 when the 220 is written off?
09:33 magnuse      (if amount = 220, amountsoutstanding = 200)
09:35 magnuse      ah, saw your last comment now, ashimema
09:36 ashimema     exactly
09:36 ashimema     sorry it's not perfect
09:37 ashimema     please do feel free to make that comment on a bug and I'll get a fix submitted.. (or submit one and I'll SO/QA it 😉 )
09:39 magnuse      perfection is boring :-)
09:39 magnuse      i can do a patch after lunch
09:40 ashimema     nice one :)
09:42 cait         magnuse++ ashimema++
10:34 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:10 magnuse      ashimema: i'll do some proper testing before i submit a patch, probably tomorrow ( wonder if $line->amount on line 90 is wrong too)
12:43 ashimema     good call
13:56 tuxayo       meeting in 3 min!
13:56 tuxayo       rmaints?
13:56 wahanui      rmaints is fridolin, khall, kidclamp, wainui and tuxayo
13:57 tuxayo       qa_team?
13:57 wahanui      qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, kidclamp, khall, tuxayo, petrova, nugged
14:04 tuxayo       #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 8 September 2021
14:04 huginn       Meeting started Wed Sep  8 14:04:27 2021 UTC.  The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:04 huginn       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:04 huginn       The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_8_september_2021'
14:04 tuxayo       #topic Introductions
14:05 tuxayo       #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Global Services Inc. ,France
14:05 henryb       #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK
14:06 thd          #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [mostly above water again]
14:09 tuxayo       #topic Announcements
14:10 tuxayo       Anyone have something?
14:10 henryb       Nothing from me
14:12 tuxayo       Joubu while sending apologies for not being able to attend left and important message:
14:12 tuxayo       #info Update! The last security update has been directly released in the Debian packages.
14:13 tuxayo       #info The koha-devel and general mailing list also contains instructions for directly applying the patches for installations not using the Debian packages.
14:14 tuxayo       #link https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2021-September/046686.html
14:14 tuxayo       #link https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2021-September/046687.html
14:15 tuxayo       This is important, it's the most important security release since a few cycles.
14:18 tuxayo       Does anyone have another topic before closing?
14:19 thd          Are you skipping the agenda items for low attendance?
14:20 tuxayo       I'm grouping them all now ^^
14:21 thd          Ok.
14:22 tuxayo       No RM or assistant, no other RMaint, or QA member, not action from last meeting
14:22 thd          I have been through many cycles of starting over quickly with git to attain proper separation of version control for wiki database migration and upgrade.
14:23 tuxayo       great :)
14:23 thd          Obviously that would have been easier if I had started by committing to git instead of doing retrospectively.
14:24 tuxayo       Good to have you for some updates on the wiki roadmap project ^^
14:25 tuxayo       Do you still have work not in git yet?
14:25 thd          However, some files would have moved to much which left a challenge of rearranging the first commit.
14:26 thd          I had too much in Git and used many symlinks which had to be syphoned off to a tarball of binary files.
14:28 tuxayo       Thanks for the update, best luck with the remaining stuff to be sorted out.
14:29 tuxayo       #topic Set time of next meeting
14:29 thd          I may move unmodified extension files to the binary tarball.
14:30 tuxayo       Are these the last pieces of the puzzle?
14:32 cait         sorry for missing the meeting... too many phone calls today
14:32 tuxayo       so Next meeting: 22 September 2021, 14 UTC ?
14:33 tuxayo       #info 2021 koha-US conference happening in two weeks! https://koha-us.org/conference2021/
14:33 thd          As far as version control yes.  I have had mistakes from retrospective work where I appeared to have over a thousand changed files because of a mistake in rearranging the files for the initial commit.
14:34 tuxayo       > As far as version control yes
14:34 tuxayo       great :)
14:35 tuxayo       Is that much interference to have the meeting during the koha-US conf?
14:36 thd          I still have to look at why the Nginx default does not link to the tarball directory the way Apache had done.
14:37 thd          Having a meeting in the midst of a major national Koha conference is probably not best.
14:37 tuxayo       Planning for the 29th also works well
14:38 tcohen       ouch
14:38 tuxayo       #info Next meeting: 29 September 2021, 14 UTC
14:39 ashimema     hi
14:39 tuxayo       #endmeeting
14:39 huginn       Meeting ended Wed Sep  8 14:39:33 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:39 huginn       Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_8_september_2021.2021-09-08-14.04.html
14:39 huginn       Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_8_september_2021.2021-09-08-14.04.txt
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14:39 ashimema     sorry.. computer keeps over heating today
14:39 ashimema     as does my brain
14:40 tuxayo       > computer keeps over heating
14:40 tuxayo       ouch
14:40 tuxayo       (also ouch for the brain overheat ^^")
14:41 ashimema     it's warm here today..
14:41 ashimema     one disadvantage of working from home.. no air con ;)
14:42 * tcohen     is fighting not having installed an LTS Ubuntu he
14:42 ashimema     hugs
14:42 tcohen       I switched back to Wayland and all seems fine
14:43 * ashimema   likes wayland
14:43 tcohen       I had moved back to X11 to use some gestures
14:43 tcohen       but on the desktop I don't need that :-D
14:43 tcohen       anyone fancy looking at bug 28959
14:43 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , virtualshelves.category is really a boolean
14:43 * ashimema   goes back to cleaning up accounts tests.. they're a mess
14:45 tuxayo       That's a good sign to move back to Wayland to have things working. It used to be the contrary.
14:47 thd          At least your computer and brain has power.  I have a client where computers were likely zapped by a power interruption and surge from the fifth strongest recorded storm to hit the continental US a week ago.
14:48 tcohen       BTW, how are you doing thd? I forgot to ask
14:48 oleonard     Sorry I missed the meeting, folks... out getting my kids tested for COVID :(
14:48 * ashimema   crosses fingers for oleonard
14:49 * ashimema   wonders what his last antibody tests results were.. seem to be taking a long time to come through.
14:53 thd          I am surviving.  The storm had a relatively low effect on the block where I live.  Some of my possessions stowed elsewhere may be lost to excess water.  The new landlord is redoing the roof but he said he has to borrow money for such expenses.
14:57 tcohen       glad to hear you're fine, thd
14:57 tcohen       oleonard: crossing fingers as well!
14:58 oleonard     Thanks tcohen  and ashimema. They're vaccinated, so I'm not too worried, but I would prefer they were at school!
15:07 thd          Schools are usually an excelle
15:09 thd          Schools are usually an excellent place to catch something at least for parents and the parents friends.
15:16 oleonard     If only there were an alternative.
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21:25 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
21:25 wahanui      Congratulations!
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