Time  Nick         Message
23:11 dcook        Busy 16 hours there eh
18:35 huginn       oleonard: The operation succeeded.
18:35 oleonard     @later tell Joubu I will probably end up creating 7 or 8 bugs to finish the Flatpickr move. Should I create a new omnibus bug or just make them all depend on 28376?
18:31 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28376 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Replace obsolete jquery-ui-timepicker-addon
18:31 oleonard     Wrong bug before... it's a follow-up to Bug 28376
18:30 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28938 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Correct Flatpickr's default 12hr time formatting
18:30 oleonard     Bug 28938
18:30 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use Flatpickr on circulation and patron pages
18:30 oleonard     Anyone around who can sign off on a trivial followup to Bug 28937?
18:05 Guest5996    Thank you for confirming.
18:04 oleonard     Guest5996: Yes, the user will have to at least have elevated privileges to do the export.
17:32 Guest5996    Thank you both for your assistance! It is greatly appreciated.
17:18 Guest5996    And the user will need to have the root pwd for the database to do so?
17:16 ashimema     That should work
17:16 ashimema     Yup
17:12 Guest5996    So export the old db, do a separate 21 install, import and run the update script?
17:05 oleonard     I'm not an expert, but I believe you can import a version 3 database dump into a fresh 21 installation and it will be correctly updated when you run the database update script.
17:01 Guest5996    That's my assumption, since they are non-technical it's difficult to get at some answers.
16:59 oleonard     They have Koha installed in some kind of virtual machine on Windows?
16:58 Guest5996    I am advising a tiny library on upgrading to version 21 from version 3. They have it installed on a Windows platform, and are non-technical. Is there good guidance for such a large leap to be found online?
16:56 oleonard     What is your question?
16:56 oleonard     Oh, that's odd.
16:55 Guest5996    I attempted to subscribe and that subscription was never approved.
16:55 oleonard     What question did you ask on the list that didn't get an answer?
16:54 Guest5996    No, I am new to this channel. I was hoping someone more fluent in Koha could answer a couple questions, since the listserv isn't panning out for me.
16:51 oleonard     jcamins?
16:48 huginn       ashimema: I have not seen Jared.
16:48 ashimema     @seen Jared
16:48 ashimema     Jared...
16:40 wahanui      somebody said Which Cait was around now?
16:40 ashimema     Which Cait
16:04 ashimema     :)
15:42 tcohen       I'm happily back to Linux, but suffering some glitches
15:39 huginn       oleonard: I have not seen linuuuux.
15:39 oleonard     @seen linuuuux
15:38 tcohen       linuuuux
14:59 ashimema     funny you should say that.. I'd love such a thing
14:58 ashimema     hahaha..
14:58 Joubu        ashimema: ideally we would like a SQL::Abstract-like syntax to build a query
14:55 ashimema     so we should probably rename to drop the _
14:55 ashimema     ok
14:55 ashimema     but that is currently only used internally in build_query_compat really
14:55 Joubu        yes I think _clean_search_term must be available from everywhere
14:55 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28316 normal, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Signed Off , Fix ES crashes related to various punctuation characters
14:55 ashimema     bug 28316 improves the filtering in _clean_search_term
14:54 ashimema     ES crashes etc
14:54 ashimema     we have a bunch of messy bugs around here
14:54 ashimema     my code affects the same sort of area
14:53 ashimema     where he starts using the private method in a controller
14:53 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28484 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Elasticsearch fails to parse query if colon or exclamation point is in 245$a
14:53 * ashimema   is looking at bug 28484
14:53 ashimema     so would you suggest _clean_search_term should/could be made public?
14:53 ashimema     fair enough
14:53 ashimema     lol
14:53 Joubu        this sub is meant to generate the query from the HTML elements
14:52 Joubu        because you have the query already
14:52 ashimema     why not?
14:52 ashimema     hmm
14:52 Joubu        I wouldn't try to convert it
14:52 ashimema     but...
14:52 ashimema     indeed
14:51 Joubu        if you have the query already you don't need to build it
14:50 ashimema     aha, thanks
14:50 Joubu        lol
14:50 ashimema     `((rcn:$biblionumber AND cni:OSt) OR rcn:OSt $biblionumber) NOT (bib-level:a OR bib-level:b)`
14:50 Joubu        and the bottom contain the filters/limits
14:50 Joubu        open the adv search page, you have the 'indexes, operands, operators' at the top
14:49 Joubu        no, the itemtype, branchcode, year, etc.
14:49 ashimema     I think I understand
14:48 ashimema     like ;opac only' for example?
14:48 Joubu        the 'limits' contains the filters
14:48 ashimema     so I can take advantage of the work going on to clean up search terms
14:48 Joubu        idx1:foo AND idx2:bar will bee { indexes => ['idx1', 'idx2'], operands => ['foo', 'bar'], operators => 'AND' }
14:47 ashimema     to instead use build_query_compat
14:47 * ashimema   is trying to wrap his head around converting get_volumes_query here https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=26314&attachment=124367
14:46 ashimema     is operands an array of search terms, operands the 'AND', 'OR', 'NOT' and indexes the array of indexes to search for each operand
14:46 Joubu        it gets the inputs and send them to the 'compat' sub
14:46 Joubu        it's what is on the adv search page
14:45 ashimema     so..
14:45 ashimema     so
14:45 ashimema     opertors, operands, indexes, limits etc
14:45 Joubu        (which was a bad idea)
14:45 Joubu        the one from ES has been written to take the same param as the existing zebra one
14:45 * ashimema   is confused by all the inputs
14:45 Joubu        more precisely?
14:43 ashimema     how does build_query_compat work
14:43 ashimema     my brain hurts
14:38 oleonard     :)
14:38 Joubu        share the link!
14:37 * oleonard   starts a Twitch channel where he stares blankly at the screen thinking about datepickers for 7 hours a day
14:37 Joubu        the communication, I mean, not the low number of meeting attendees
14:36 Joubu        maybe that will help a bit as well
14:36 Joubu        I am still hoping to come with a 'ML => discourse move' proposition in the next months
14:36 * ashimema   needs a walk
14:35 ashimema     anywho...
14:35 ashimema     there's still loads of scope for improvements in Koha at the wider level I feel... be great to somehow get more people on board with that.
14:35 ashimema     Which is fine.. though I would love to see some of those feed back up..
14:34 ashimema     indeed
14:34 oleonard     Joubu++
14:34 oleonard     ashimema++
14:34 oleonard     I wonder if general community interactions are moving more to regional meetings e.g. Koha-US.
14:31 ashimema     no point wasting everyone's time with empty agenda's
14:31 ashimema     I just sent an email to the lists mooting the idea of switching to biannual general meetings
14:23 tuxayo       *thanks
14:22 tuxayo       thank ashimema for chairing :)
14:22 tuxayo       good idea
14:22 huginn       Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/general_irc_meeting_1_september_2021.2021-09-01-14.02.log.html
14:22 huginn       Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/general_irc_meeting_1_september_2021.2021-09-01-14.02.txt
14:22 huginn       Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/general_irc_meeting_1_september_2021.2021-09-01-14.02.html
14:22 huginn       Meeting ended Wed Sep  1 14:22:25 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:22 ashimema     #endmeeting
14:22 ashimema     #info Next meeting: 13 Oct 2021, 14 UTC
14:21 ashimema     and maybe moot that we have one or two a year as more of an AGM instead from then on.?
14:21 tuxayo       ok
14:21 ashimema     lets slip it to 6 as they're so badly attended
14:21 ashimema     indeed
14:20 Joubu        and 1 "general" for kohacon vote
14:20 Joubu        which could be done by email
14:20 Joubu        and kohacon updates
14:19 oleonard     I'm not sure what General meetings are for anymore since they're only attended by devs
14:18 Joubu        every quarter
14:18 ashimema     not sure which would actually get more attendance though.
14:18 ashimema     we could do a 6 week.. or 2 week to reset it to the middle
14:17 ashimema     exactly
14:17 ashimema     yeah.. but I don't remember it being this close before
14:17 tuxayo       4w != 1mo so it moves a little by little
14:17 thd          It was the middle somewhat recently.
14:17 ashimema     we must have missed one/rescheduled one at some point
14:17 ashimema     I'm not sure how it's ended up at the beggining/end of the month.. I thought it tended to be in the middle
14:16 ashimema     indeed
14:16 Joubu        every 4 weeks
14:16 thd          ?
14:16 thd          Should it not be next month
14:16 ashimema     #info Next meeting: 29 Sept 2021, 14 UTC
14:16 thd          29?
14:15 Joubu        yes
14:15 ashimema     my brain isn't working this afternoon
14:15 ashimema     does that make it the 29th?
14:15 tuxayo       works for me
14:14 ashimema     same cadence?
14:14 ashimema     #topic Date and time for next meeting
14:13 ashimema     There were no actions
14:13 ashimema     #topic Actions from last meeting
14:13 ashimema     moving on
14:13 ashimema     [off] those were what I was looking at just prior to this meeting Joubu ;)
14:13 tuxayo       or else be DoSed!
14:13 ashimema     #info If you've not already updated, please do!
14:12 Joubu        [off] want more? :D
14:12 ashimema     #info Security releases went out as planned, well done team.
14:12 tuxayo       People should update ^^
14:12 tuxayo       Security release went ok
14:11 wahanui      well, rmaints is fridolin, khall, kidclamp, wainui and tuxayo
14:11 ashimema     rmaints?
14:11 ashimema     #info Only two months left for this cycle.. lots still to do. Please refer to previous minutes for the lists
14:10 ashimema     ta
14:10 Joubu        check what I said at the last meetings if you want to know more
14:10 Joubu        and still the same things I need
14:10 ashimema     yowsers!
14:10 Joubu        less than 2 months left
14:09 ashimema     anything you wish to say Joubu
14:09 ashimema     #topic Update on releases
14:09 ashimema     shall we move on..
14:09 ashimema     #info kohaputti is hopefully returning to Koha for a little while after winning a grant for such... :)
14:07 tuxayo       kohaputti got a grant to continue working on Koha :)
14:07 ashimema     anyone have any announcements?
14:06 ashimema     is anyone from the wider community actually attending?
14:06 Joubu        they are reactive by email
14:06 thd          #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
14:06 ashimema     has anyone heard anything from them regards the date changes etc..
14:06 ashimema     I bet we don't have anyone from the KohaCon hosts here...
14:05 ashimema     #topic Announcements
14:03 tuxayo       :D
14:03 huginn       Current chairs: ashimema tuxayo
14:03 ashimema     #chair tuxayo
14:03 ashimema     #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK
14:03 nugged       #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI
14:03 petrova      #info Peter (Petro) Vashchuk, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI
14:03 oleonard     #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
14:03 tuxayo       #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo International Ltd. ,France
14:03 ashimema     #topic Introductions
14:02 ashimema     #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_1_September_2021 Today's agenda
14:02 huginn       The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_1_september_2021'
14:02 huginn       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:02 huginn       Meeting started Wed Sep  1 14:02:27 2021 UTC.  The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:02 ashimema     #startmeeting General IRC meeting 1 September 2021
13:58 Joubu        cannot attend this meeting, sorry
13:56 ashimema     dang I'm so bad at this
13:56 ashimema     another meeting..
13:56 wahanui      hey, ashimema
13:56 ashimema     hello
13:56 ashimema     ho
13:56 wahanui      rmaints is fridolin, khall, kidclamp, wainui and tuxayo
13:56 tuxayo       rmaints?
13:56 wahanui      qa_team is, like, cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, kidclamp, khall, tuxayo, petrova, nugged
13:56 tuxayo       qa_team?
13:56 tuxayo       Meeting in 5 min!
13:43 tuxayo       Hi #koha :)
13:14 oleonard     Meeting in 45 minutes?
12:38 nlegrand     Joubu: Thanks!!
12:36 Joubu        nlegrand: installer/data/mysql/mandatory/sample_notices_message_transports.sql
12:34 nlegrand     ha! It seems my message_transports table is missing the information. From where should it be filled?
12:22 marcelr      The InvalidField sub is minor importance
12:22 Joubu        marcelr: agreed
12:07 marcelr      Joubu: I would be all for pushing the simple flags patch first
12:07 marcelr      hi #koha
12:07 nlegrand     There is no transport value pass nowhere when it is asking for message preferences.
12:06 nlegrand     Fun fact: it worked well in 18.05 with the same problem but now in 20.11, it works for item_due, but not advance_notice.
12:05 nlegrand     oleonard: there are!
12:05 oleonard     (I don't even know if that is connected)
12:05 nlegrand     And it says “messages => none” on the default page.
12:05 oleonard     nlegrand: Are there notices defined for those messages?
12:04 nlegrand     Even in categories.pl for default message preferencies, I have “-” and no checkbox.
12:03 user_        ok
12:03 nlegrand     user_: he has.
12:02 user_        nlegrand, maybe you need to add email to the patron?
12:01 nlegrand     So, if anyone has an idea on how to get email checkboxes back in Messaging Preferences, I'm interested :D.
12:01 nlegrand     In all email columns of Messaging Preferences I've got a “ - ” and no check box. I read code through and through until C4::Form::MessagingPreferences baffled me...
11:58 nlegrand     I restarted to work this week and I stumbled on a weird one.
11:57 nlegrand     Hey #koha!
11:27 oleonard     Why do we even have the option for users to choose their own library card number?
11:23 vfernandes   should we use another dir instead of /tmp/koha ?
11:16 vfernandes   the template cache dir /tmp/koha needs specific permissions?
11:15 vfernandes   hummm my problem happens with all scripts not running on plack: manage-marc-import.pl, stage-marc-import.pl, upload-cover-image.pl...
11:04 huginn       ashimema: The operation succeeded.
11:03 ashimema     @later tell jajm I took bug 24023 as inspiration but re-wrote allot of it using modern practice and to match our customer requirements. Hopefully it will also cover your customers requirements but i'd love your feedback if you have a moment some time.. My work is on bug 28854
11:02 ashimema     jajm around?
10:48 vfernandes   the script upload-cover-image.pl runs outside plack
10:48 vfernandes   can someone help me debugging this error?
10:47 pastebot     "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Upload cover images" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2567
10:43 vfernandes   hi #koha
10:16 oleonard     o/
08:42 fridolin     sse u
08:24 fridolin     ammar: from HTTP interface, some proxy are protecting from posting SQL queries. This may block sql report edition in Koha
08:17 janPasi      ammar: with underscore obviously :D
08:17 janPasi      ammar: not sure if that's the problem, but you seem to have a typo in your mysql username, kohalibray instaead of kohalibrary
08:06 ammar        actually the real issue is I cannot create a new query directly on KOHA, as page crashed on the save query page. So, as a workaround I  need to run query directly on mysql
08:04 ammar        ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'koha_libray'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
08:04 ammar        ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
08:04 ammar        but when I export the result in CSV it gives mei access denied error
08:04 ammar        when I ran the query in mysql directly on linux terminal it went good
08:03 ammar        my SFTP user is root and mysql user is koha_library
08:03 wahanui      hi, ammar
08:03 ammar        Hi
06:53 * dcook      waves
06:52 fridolin     dcook: le bonjour
06:45 alex_a       Bonjour
06:44 dcook        And hi ^_^
06:44 * dcook      also collapses into a heap
06:44 * dcook      apologizes for the Bugzilla spam but hopes the patches help
06:28 magnuse      \o/
06:17 fridolin     hi
02:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #142: FIXED in 2 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/142/
02:31 wahanui      Congratulations!
02:31 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
01:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #121: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U18/121/
01:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #188: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/188/
01:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #709: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/709/
01:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #129: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U20/129/