Time Nick Message
02:39 tuxayo mtj: hi, about bug 28302, so I need to push the patch, bump the version number, new tag, new tarballs, push them. Is that all?
02:39 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28302 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to oldoldstable , Koha does not work with CGI::Compile 0.24
03:03 mtj hi tuxayo, perhaps we could tag the release as 19.11.18-1 instead
03:04 mtj ...then no need for new db version bump
03:05 mtj just upload new tarball
03:05 tuxayo mtj: so, patch, tag, tarball ?
03:06 mtj its a trivial non-breaking bug. you could pass on the patch too
03:06 mtj yep ^
03:07 tuxayo mtj: what do you mean "pass on the patch"?
03:07 mtj means decide not too apply patch
03:08 tuxayo What would this do then to have a mini release? Oh maybe you'll apply the patch later in the pipeline?
03:09 tuxayo (already applied anyways ^^)
03:17 tuxayo Patch applied, tarball being uploaded (10min...), TODO push tag
03:30 mtj oops, tuxayo - can you push tag as 19.11.18-2 please
03:31 tuxayo ok, I didn't pushed -1 it yet since it would be non reversible I was waiting a bit ^^
03:31 mtj ..i forgot packages are built as x.x.x-1 by default
03:33 tuxayo So, I got locally 19.11.18-2
03:33 tuxayo What about the tarball?
03:56 mtj tuxayo: hmm, perhaps build 19.11.18-2 tarball to be consistent
03:56 tuxayo ok
03:59 tuxayo mtj: uploading tarballs, anything to check or I can push the tag? I just applied the patch, checked about.pl and tagged.
04:02 mtj 1 tic..
04:04 tuxayo tic?
04:11 mtj hmm, sorry i spotted something unexpected with the ktd builds
04:13 mtj aah, ktd rebuild has fixed it
04:14 mtj tuxayo: push the tag merci
04:15 mtj sorry, was a long tiiiic
04:18 tuxayo ok I push
04:24 tuxayo mtj: it should be ok, tag pushed, tarball there. old one moved
04:26 mtj perfect
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04:51 tuxayo Thanks for the guidance mtj
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06:02 reiveune hello
06:03 Joubu tuxayo: erk, so you pushed already?
06:03 tuxayo Joubu yes ^^"
06:03 Joubu I was going to ask you 28367
06:03 tuxayo I can do 19.11.18-3 if needed
06:04 Joubu but I should have told you yesterday :-/
06:04 Joubu tcohen faced the problem yesterday, but he didn't tell me much about it
06:05 Joubu don't do anything for now, we will see later if it's needed
06:05 tuxayo Joubu: It depends on mtj if they already did the work for 19.11.18-2 . And if bug 28367 can wait next month.
06:05 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28367 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Wrong plack condition in C4/Auth_with_shibboleth.pm
06:05 tuxayo ok
06:05 tuxayo I should still backport and leave in the branch right?
06:10 Joubu ho I missed we had rmaints for another cycle
06:10 Joubu I thought it was the last release
06:13 mtj me too ^
06:13 tuxayo Joubu: yes indeed, Wainui will take over
06:19 Joubu mtj: 28476 - you removed mirko from 17.11 but he is the one on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_17.11
06:20 Joubu mtj: I am skipping it for 21.05.00, it's not about new changes
06:32 mtj oops, i'll fix that
06:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28475: Fix searching all headings <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69fb1be22d42bdfe1421b4e23ea783c858ec23d2>
06:49 magnuse \o/
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06:54 alex_a Bonjour
06:56 lds hi
06:57 nlegrand hey !
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07:14 kohaputti Today is the day! Very excited for a new koha release :)
07:17 cait1 :)
07:17 cait1 it never stops being exciting somehow
07:17 cait1 and then... we shall start again
07:19 kohaputti haha
07:20 cait1 very glad to have you around btw kohaputti :)
07:20 cait1 a good time to say that too
07:20 cait1 kohaputti++
07:20 kohaputti you too :)
07:21 cait1 :)
07:24 TadasG hello
07:25 cait1 hi
07:26 TadasG We have Koha installed in our server for education purposes, everything looks fine, but there are a few issues: 1. We decided to use Hold function to reserve a book for patron. But, i.e., if there is only one book, many patrons are able to reserve a book using Hold function. Is it possible to make a book reservation only for one patron (one book -> one patron reservation; two books -> two patrons reservations; etc.)?
07:28 kohaputti TadasG, I haven't come across such feature (but there could be though, so many ways to configure koha)
07:29 magnuse kohaputti++
07:29 cait1 TadasG: I think it#s not possible right now
07:30 cait1 the expectation usually is that there is a queue
07:30 cait1 and limits are on the patron side
07:31 cait1 so a patron can only have 5 holds... but holds on a record by different users arenot limited
07:31 cait1 you can make it visible to users, that there are not first priority for an item, woudl that help a bit?
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07:37 Joubu can you take one last look at https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_tech_release_notes please?
07:41 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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07:52 tuxayo Joubu: I can't say if anything is missing or wrong but it's clear and very informative :D
07:52 tuxayo Though there is still «### Pickup locations (Tomas?)»
08:06 Joubu kohaputti: do you know if nugged or petro will be around today?
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08:17 TadasG cait1: Thanks for the reply :)
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08:30 kohaputti Joubu, I think so, but not sure if petro is on IRC / can't remember the nick
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08:45 severine_q Bonjour #koha !
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08:58 magnuse bonjour severine_q
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09:12 nugged <Joubu>, I was around, for some reason my irccloud app on phone lost notifications (thanks <kohaputti> for pushing me)
09:13 severine_q halo magnuse :)
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10:21 oleonard-away Hi #koha
10:22 magnuse kia ora oleonard_
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11:29 tcohen morning
11:32 severine_q hi tcohen :)
11:33 severine_q does anyone has issues with Pootle ?
11:33 severine_q I can only do suggestions, no way to save my translations :/
11:37 kohaputti oh! severine_q I noticed that change also recently
11:37 kohaputti maybe it requires nowadays special priveleges to submit?
11:37 kohaputti cait1, any info on that?
11:38 Joubu yes
11:38 Joubu Bernardo modified the default permissions
11:39 Joubu apparently it was a recent change that was not expected
11:39 kohaputti I think it is better now, if you need to submit / get review rights you can contact someone who has admin on the server
11:39 Joubu I have admin access
11:39 Joubu let me check
11:40 kohaputti I think maybe then also the commenting functionality was disabled at the same time
11:40 kohaputti because that button also disappeared
11:41 severine_q thanks kohaputti and Joubu for theses informations, I was affrais I did something wrong
11:45 Joubu done, severine_q is the "fr" team and kohaputti in the "fi" team, as "reviewer"
11:45 Joubu let me know if it's enough
11:46 severine_q well done Joubu, you're a great guy :)
11:46 kohaputti should be more than enough, I don't do much translations nowadays :D
12:11 Joubu We regret any omissions. If a contributor has been inadvertently missed,
12:11 Joubu please send a patch against these release notes to
12:11 Joubu koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org.
12:11 Joubu is there anyone receiving that?
12:15 kohaputti Joubu, do you get these on latest master as well:
12:15 kohaputti t/db_dependent/MungeMarcPrice.t ........................ 8/22 {UNKNOWN}: DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot delete or update a parent row
12:15 kohaputti there is 3 such test with same failure
12:15 kohaputti t/db_dependent/Contract.t and t/db_dependent/Budgets.t in addition to that
12:16 magnuse Joubu: no messages on that list since May 2018. maybe better to refer to Bugzilla?
12:18 Joubu kohaputti: seems ok on jenkins, which setup?
12:18 kohaputti oh wait
12:18 Joubu magnuse: yes, good idea
12:18 kohaputti no, it was with other patches still applied
12:18 kohaputti Joubu, false alarm
12:18 Joubu magnuse: nobody has complains, that's good to know :)
12:38 magnuse Joubu: yup :-)
12:59 huginn News from kohagit: Koha 21.05.00 is here! <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=949f0aad6889d830697504cc5b597e05bafb6c8f>
12:59 huginn News from kohagit: Add release notes for Koha 21.05.00 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07af6c7370af6c766f25f004476515288ecae273>
12:59 huginn News from kohagit: Add and fix few messages in second plural form for pl, be, ru languages <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a93f45ecc9c5fdeaf8ed75bc9df6dc94ed009615>
12:59 huginn News from kohagit: Fix translation issues <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=152733f66c7d8e247b12a170d63dc5d880054714>
12:59 huginn News from kohagit: Translation updates for Koha 21.05.00 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f80ab7f62375fb61a6d8bcfbd5794f005451e55>
12:59 huginn News from kohagit: 21.05.00 - Update history.txt <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c23cdd25c74cc7b8345e96cf60fc476a40b7ef2>
12:59 huginn News from kohagit: 21.05.00 - Update contributors.yaml <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbb4c847b42c30ab785f21aa3195bf8831b452c6>
13:05 kohaputti wohoo!
13:07 magnuse hooray!
13:07 magnuse @confetti
13:07 huginn magnuse: I've exhausted my database of quotes
13:07 magnuse confetti
13:07 severine_q Bravo !!!
13:14 tcohen Joubu++
13:32 nlegrand Bravo!
13:36 cait1 oh no
13:36 cait1 i missed the confetti moment!
13:36 cait1 confetti!
13:36 cait1 Joubu++
13:36 cait1 thx for everything
13:39 Joubu thx you all <3
13:39 Joubu I am wondering what it the super important thing I missed
13:40 Joubu is*
13:40 Joubu so we will have a... oldoldoldstable?
13:41 tcohen you did an amazing job, Joubu
13:43 oleonard Joubu++
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14:02 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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14:30 cait1 Joubu: i hate that feeling :)
14:31 reiveune bye
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14:33 cait1 arrrrg
14:33 cait1 German (99.9%)
14:33 cait1 i swear i aws finished yesterday
14:33 cait1 there must have been another update
14:33 cait1 meeting facilitator was smuggled in!
14:36 kohaputti It was probably the addorderiso2709.pl page
14:37 cait1 no i had finished that
14:37 kohaputti ok :)
14:37 cait1 it was really the meeting facilitator addition to the about page and the new error string in circ
14:37 cait1 btw Joubu: it did hurt pushing it, it untranslated all the others as they are one string :P
14:37 kohaputti 99.9% still sounds really good :P
14:37 cait1 we were both wrong there :)
14:38 cait1 yep, i just needed to know what heppened, it will be fixed soon :)
14:38 cait1 if that's the important thing Joubu misse,d we are good ;)
14:38 kohaputti we will start using the new version on Monday :P
14:44 cait1 that's brave, but we need the brave ones
14:44 cait1 good luck!
14:44 cait1 did you make more progess and getting thigns in you needed?
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14:56 kohaputti cait1, we have, currently 6 features only on top of master and regression/bug fixes which didn't make to the 21.05 release. I think we started from around 20 features.
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14:58 kohaputti regarding those regression now in 21.05 i wonder if we should switch to release candidate model and only do final release when the amount of regression bugs found get very rare. Currently I think our strategy is to take in only major bugs but I think it is quite bad to have many of those normal regression bugs too
15:03 Joubu kohaputti: which regressions are you talking about?
15:03 kohaputti bug 28171 and bug 28204 for example
15:03 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28171 normal, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Passed QA , Serial enumeration / chronology sorting is broken in biblio page
15:03 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28204 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Table highlighting is broken at the cataloguing/additem.pl
15:04 kohaputti they are not major but when having lots of these small issues the user experience gets worse
15:06 Joubu The main problem is the delay to get them in
15:06 Joubu ho, misread the date :)
15:07 Joubu the patch is one week old
15:08 kohaputti only a problem if we need to have a fixed date for the release
15:10 kohaputti or maybe instead of just allowing >major bugs we could allow regression bug fixes compared to previous released version
15:10 kohaputti compared to allowing all minor/normal bug fixes
15:10 Joubu if you are waiting for all the bugs to be fixed, you will never release
15:11 Joubu I understand your point "only majors / only regressions"
15:12 Joubu I think you are correct with the regressions, and we are not too strict about that. If minor bugfixes reach the line late, we usually push them anyway
15:12 Joubu depending on the consequences
15:12 Joubu and everybody has different feelings about a bug
15:13 Joubu you could have asked me for 28204 if you really needed it
15:14 Joubu for the bugfixes in PQA I looked at the dependency bug, if it was only in 21.05 I was more keen to push it (considered as a regression, or a bug on a new enh)
15:15 Joubu Anyway, see you next week #koha, have a great weekend
15:15 kohaputti I wouldn't wait for all bugs to be fixed but maybe try to get that Signed-off / PQA bug queue to just a few bugs
15:16 kohaputti Joubu, you too, see you :)
15:16 Joubu it was hard enough to get attention on the few (<5) bugs I flagged 21.05..
15:22 kohaputti Now looking at our bug reports: 57 unsolved ones :o
15:23 kohaputti / needing review
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15:55 lukeG1 good morning Koha!
16:13 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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16:14 cait1 kohaputti: I feel you - but I think joubu is right, we would never release
16:14 cait1 I think blocker bugs would lead to pushing the release date... but for the small ones it's often not possible to wait up
16:14 cait1 .01 will have a lot more of those i think
16:16 kohaputti I think people would start paying more attention to those bugs if they cannot get their features in because we are not accepting them because of bugs that need to be fixed first
16:16 kohaputti in other projects I'm involved this has been working fine
16:17 cait1 we could get better there... but I think we kinda tried that
16:17 cait1 but certainly something to discuss
16:17 cait1 also for QA, I feel bad about things we didn't do - always. need to improve the "waiting time" in QA
16:19 cait1 you are not wrong at all, just wondering if it will work with our dynamics
16:20 cait1 ok, time to leave :) cya later #koha
17:46 Nemo_bis congrats for the release :)
19:21 ivandz Hi all! It's good to use this condition `CGI::Session->load() or die CGI::Session->errstr();` in Koha? Thanks!
20:24 Nemo_bis "It's the most wonderful time of the year… It is that time of year again for many libraries - the close of their academic fiscal year."
20:24 Nemo_bis curious stuff software vendors write
20:43 caroline ah yes, wonderful closing of fiscal year, my favourite time of the year!
21:00 Nemo_bis :)
21:17 tuxayo wat