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06:26 reiveune     hello
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09:30 cait         hello #koha :)
09:33 cait         someone else around here today for doing #koha things?
09:33 Joubu        yep
09:34 Joubu        hi cait
09:34 cait         hi Joubu :)
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10:12 oleonard     Hi #koha
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10:33 oleonard     Bugzilla appears to be down
10:34 oleonard     Oh, not anymore.
10:40 cait         oh good
10:40 cait         hi oleonard :)
10:45 cait         oleonard: translation finds
10:45 cait         obviously :)
10:46 oleonard     It's unfortunate that the translation process turns up bugs which can't be fixed until the next release
10:47 cait         yes, but it can be in .01
10:47 cait         and it does turn up things we would have not spotted otherwise i guess
10:47 cait         and actually... the translations will be correct, the original remains wrong
10:51 oleonard     ashimema here?
10:58 cait         may be a holiday, it's one here
11:00 oleonard     Ah, that's why you asked if anyone was here
11:04 cait         yep
11:05 cait         was looking for some bug fixing company
11:11 ashimema     hi
11:12 cait         hello
11:12 ashimema     I'm here
11:12 ashimema     not a holiday in the UK
11:12 ashimema     juts got a head scratcher of a bug I'm working on for Nick
11:14 * cait       hands the cookie jar over to ashimema and sends him back to his bug
11:14 ashimema     haha
11:15 ashimema     funny thing is.. I've actually already fixed it in master (well.. master plus a bug that's awaiting SO)
11:15 ashimema     but backporting that is proving interesting
11:15 ashimema     bug 28421 for the interested
11:15 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28421 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , When refunding lost fees we should not include voided payments
11:45 cait         ashimema: added to qa team email
11:45 cait         rb
11:45 cait         brb
11:45 ashimema     :)
11:58 oleonard     ashimema if you've got time for a question, one came up while I was looking at Bug 28426. I'm curious why transfer_reasons.inc isn't used in returns.tt
11:58 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28426 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Terminology: Reserve should be hold
11:58 oleonard     I see that transfer_reasons.inc is slightly different than what's in returns.tt, maybe that's all it is.
12:00 ashimema     hmm
12:01 ashimema     probably just an oversight
12:01 ashimema     ah, I see
12:02 ashimema     yeah.. partly oversight.. partly what is passed back if I remember correctly..
12:03 ashimema     It may have improved now thinking about it.. certainly at some point the 'messages' return from C4::Circulation::AddReturn didn't include the transfer object.. it just returned codes.. so the 'trigger' is just a code.. as such we couldn't use the include as it expects a transfer object.
12:03 ashimema     it would certainly be nicer to use the include if/when we can
12:09 cait         back
12:09 ashimema     bug 28382 cait.. 'Reserve' pre-existed as a reason
12:09 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28382 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , 'Reserve' should be passed through as transfer reason appropriately in branchtransfers
12:10 ashimema     it should totally be fixed.. but in it's own bug ;)
12:10 ashimema     to catch the DB update and the places where it's referred to already
12:10 cait         already commented there to that :)
12:12 ashimema     ta
12:12 * ashimema   is struggling to keep on top of all his trees again...
12:17 ashimema     ok.. oleonard are you working on that bug?
12:17 oleonard     28426? I planned to.
12:18 ashimema     if you are.. I've worked out the weirdness... I'd update the inc to not need a full transfer object.. instead just pass it the code so it's only used for translation.. then I'd use it in both places
12:19 ashimema     we can't pass a full transfer object back in returns.. as the 'NeedsTransfer' case isn't yet a transfer so we don't have such an object yet
12:19 ashimema     hugs
12:19 * ashimema   will happily SO/QA that bug once it's done ;)
12:23 tcohen       morning
12:27 fridolin     Bug 28363 any opinion welcomed
12:27 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28363 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, In Discussion , Always use semicolon when preference CSVDelimiter is missing
12:27 * fridolin   preferes chocolat ^^
12:28 ashimema     looks pretty sane to me
12:29 Joubu        ashimema, kidclamp: have a look at the comment I've just posted on bug 28158 please
12:29 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28158 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Lost items not charging when marked lost from batch item modification
12:31 ashimema     ah, will read now
12:31 ashimema     it confused the heck out of me.
12:36 Joubu        ashimema: I've also added bug 17600 to the roadmap
12:37 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Standardize the EXPORT
12:37 ashimema     nice one
13:28 tuxayo       hi #koha o/
13:29 oleonard     Hi tuxayo
13:33 cait         oleonard: looking at bug 28418
13:33 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28418 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Show template_id of MARC modification templates
13:33 cait         and the Actions column is like super super wide for me
13:34 cait         it shows as width: 1055.2px;
13:34 oleonard     Yes. It looks unusual because most tables have more non-data columns to make things wider. I didn't know if it was worth adding some kind of custom style to try to change it.
13:34 oleonard     I mean non-action columns.
13:35 cait         good question
13:35 cait         that's because the table will just grow to full page size, right?
13:40 oleonard     Yes
13:43 cait         bug 28419 is really really odd
13:43 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28419 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , addorderiso2709 untranslatable
13:43 cait         a whole page escaping translations
13:49 oleonard     Very odd
13:50 cait         i have no idea what could cuase this
13:50 cait         the de-DE translations are well maintained and complete for this version
13:50 cait         and i think fr-CA is similar, both show the issue
13:50 cait         it's really the whole file
13:50 cait         breadcrumbs and all
13:51 cait         oleonard: would you mind signing off bug 28204 maybe?
13:51 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28204 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Table highlighting is broken at the cataloguing/additem.pl
13:52 oleonard     Sure
13:52 cait         the css ther is a bit.. hard to read
13:52 oleonard     How could we have tested Bug 26339 if the template isn't translated?
13:52 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26339 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to stable , Move translatable strings out of addorderiso2709.tt into addorderiso2709.js
13:52 oleonard     Could it be related?
13:52 cait         maybe it broke after?
13:53 cait         i don't think your changes affected the template like that
13:53 cait         the tt strings are the issue
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14:12 cait         oleonard++
14:15 cait         Joubu: is the old sandbox system not coming back?
14:15 cait         then we could clean up the sandboxes wiki page some
14:15 Joubu        nope
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14:16 cait         ok
14:16 Joubu        it won't come back
14:16 cait         i'll do a bit of clean-up
14:16 cait         :)
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14:17 Joubu        The whole wiki page can be replaced by the great bywater demo video :)
14:23 cait         yep I just moved that up
14:23 Joubu        kidclamp: could you have another try at bug 28158?
14:23 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28158 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Lost items not charging when marked lost from batch item modification
14:23 cait         still working on it
14:23 Joubu        I am stuck
14:24 kidclamp     I can try to poke later, but don't have fresh ideas at the moment
14:25 Joubu        the only option I see for now is to remove the whole background stuff
14:25 kidclamp     that's what I was just thinking
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14:26 kidclamp     the rest of the modification succeeds though?
14:26 kidclamp     could make it optional and strongly recommend disabling
14:26 Joubu        the rollback fail is failing, so I am not expecting any good behaviours after that
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14:27 Joubu        s/fail//
14:28 kidclamp     the rollback is trgiggered by the savepoint release failure though? so sort of , we did it all, then couldn't release the save pont for the rollbaack, which triggers a rollback, which fails because we are done>?
14:30 Joubu        LostItem won't be called
14:35 Joubu        kidclamp: Data::Session actually fixes the issue
14:36 Joubu        huh, no
14:36 Joubu        getting tired it seems
14:40 cait         hm didn't we add installing translations recently?
14:40 cait         sandboxes still
14:40 cait         ashimema: ?
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14:45 Joubu        cait: you can test master + all languages with the strings coming from pootle (last friday), on biblibre's sandboxes
14:45 cait         Joubu: this is still for updatin ghte iwki page
14:45 cait         i was pretty sure we added something to allow people to pick a language
14:45 cait         but not seeing it on the ptfs-e ones i am just using for reference
14:46 cait         i am rewriting the written docs too - not everyone likes watching videos
14:48 cait         ashimema: git Log link for my sandbox says: raptor not found...(which i am kinda glad of..)
14:50 Joubu        yes, seems broken
14:50 Joubu        cait: https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/install_translation/master4
14:50 Joubu        working there
14:50 Joubu        but.. don't do it
14:50 Joubu        you will certainly erase the more recent ones
14:51 cait         i found it
14:51 cait         it's in Actions
14:51 cait         after creatoin
14:51 cait         right... i will pretnd it works for docs... I am sure Martin will fix it :)
14:52 cait         hm but sign-off form is broken too
14:52 cait         that's a bit of trouble
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14:54 ashimema     ptfs-e sandboxes seem to have gotten themselves into a right mess.
14:55 ashimema     rebooting
14:56 cait         Mostly done with the rewrite, please check: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes
14:57 ashimema     hopefully they'll be back in a moment.. just had to nuke all that were there I'm afraid
14:57 * ashimema   has to go on a ballet run now.. all a bit busy here at the minute
14:58 Joubu        cait: "(requires to be logged in)." - are you sure?
14:58 cait         pretty sure
14:58 cait         try it
14:58 cait         but it was there before
14:59 Joubu        I've tried it ;)
14:59 cait         i've never figured out why hm
14:59 cait         maybe someoen fixed permissions on the report?
14:59 cait         i'll verify quickly too
14:59 Joubu        "Needs Additional Work
14:59 Joubu        => this one does not work
14:59 cait         interesting
15:00 cait         wonder who owns that one
15:00 cait         if it's you we could maybe compare groups
15:00 tuxayo       thanks for the sandbox page update cait++
15:01 Joubu        cait: not me
15:02 cait         updated the logged in part, now seeing about the report
15:02 cait         hm not me either, ashimema maybe?
15:03 ashimema     ?
15:03 ashimema     what?
15:03 cait         coudl be Chris - Additional
15:03 cait         it has editbugs
15:03 cait         ashimema: we are trying to figure out why the Needs Adiditonal work link on dashboard requires to be logged in in bugzilla and others od not
15:03 ashimema     i have no idea what you're talking about, sorry
15:03 ashimema     oh, no idea
15:04 ashimema     weird
15:04 reiveune     bye
15:04 cait         but the Needs Signoff i see also has editbugs
15:04 ashimema     hmm
15:05 ashimema     hmm,
15:05 ashimema     I can't remember where language comes in in the sandboxes..
15:05 cait         ok, i have no idea
15:05 ashimema     the actions menu after setup has completed perhaps
15:05 cait         ashimema: it's in Actions
15:05 ashimema     as fpor bugzilla.. I'll check later
15:05 cait         i was just wondering because it was listed as limitation - not any longer
15:06 Joubu        it has shared_id=1, so it must be rangi
15:06 cait         ashimema: don't worry, not high prio
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15:06 cait         @later tell rangi can you maybe check why the 'Needs Additional work' link on the dashboard requires to be logged into Bugzilla, but the other links don't?
15:06 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
15:07 cait         ashimema: thx for restarting the sandboxes
15:07 cait         ashimema++
15:07 Joubu        cait: we need to generate a public search and modify the link on the dashboard
15:08 cait         nt sure how this works?
15:08 cait         but i can file it somewhere if you want :)
15:17 Joubu        cait: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dashboard/-/issues
15:17 cait         brb
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15:24 tuxayo       Ouch, ES not indexing stuff due to my disk almost full ^^"
15:24 tuxayo       > es_1 [...] flood stage disk watermark [95%] exceeded  [...] all indices on this node will be marked read-only
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15:26 tuxayo       Good ES output that ~every minute in the terminal, otherwise I would have noticed that it would cause issues.
15:27 tuxayo       *Good thing
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15:39 Alby         Hi everyone, I'm testing koha on a raspi 4 for a school library. I installed Koha-community repo, but installation fails with the following error:
15:40 Alby         "Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  koha-full : Depends: koha-core but it is not going to be installed. Unable to correct problems, you have hel
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15:44 oleonard     Anyone around who can help out Alby?
15:46 ashimema     erm.. mtj around ^
15:46 Alby         Thanks! I'm trying to install the missing lib manually, but I think it may be an issue for other people.. so I wanted to let you guys know..
15:47 ashimema     sounds like we're missing some dependancies in the arm repos or something to me
15:47 ashimema     we don't build Koha for arm.. but I think it used to work so maybe something behind the scenes.. one of our dependancies is the problem.
15:47 ashimema     thanks alby
15:47 ashimema     mtj is our packaging guru at the moment.. but he's NZ time.. so may not be around yet
15:48 oleonard     How much trouble would I be in if I submitted a patch with string changes in 50 different templates...
15:49 ashimema     :')
15:49 ashimema     well... I would giggle..
15:49 cait         Joubu: added
15:49 ashimema     but others might cry ;)
15:49 Alby         Thanks to you! I'm not in a hurry, so maybe I'll try build it from source and see what I can do..
15:49 ashimema     :)
15:50 cait         oleonard: no trouble with me as long as it's readable... and I am already used to translate all the things again and again
15:50 ashimema     it's mostly perl.. so should be pretty trivial.. we use a few xs modules.. but none we wrote ourselves.. they're all cpan distributed..
15:50 cait         i might cry a little... but i love consistency more
15:52 ashimema     the Addtional search (which is what I think 'Needs additional work' links to)
15:52 ashimema     it's under 'editbugs' permission
15:53 ashimema     it's owned (i.e. shared) by Chris
15:54 ashimema     I don't think anyone other than him can change the 'Shared To' value.. it needs to be under 'Koha' to be totally public
15:54 ashimema     editbugs is a logged in perm
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15:56 cait         also updated the sign-off section now: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes#Step_4:_Sign-off
15:57 ashimema     @later tell rangi could you update your saved bugzilla search 'Addtional' to belong to the 'Koha' group instead of 'editbugs'.. it's linked from the dashboard and is the only saved search linked from there that required login 😉 (cait is QAing the dashboard.. haha)
15:57 huginn       ashimema: The operation succeeded.
15:57 ashimema     nice one cait
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16:01 cait         and thanks to henry for proof reading :)
16:05 cait         oleonard: how did you spot those capitalization ones?
16:06 oleonard     I did a regex search which returned a lot of false positives :D
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16:15 cait         oleonard: you still have me very impressed
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18:40 kidclamp     oleonard: animated gifs don't animate if used as cover images! I needs it!
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19:24 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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21:30 oleonard     kidclamp: Blame the image processing we do when images are uploaded
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