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06:12 magnuse \o/
06:21 alex_a Bonjour
06:43 reiveune hello
06:51 magnuse yay, the "Technical highlights" section of the 20.11 release notes are super awesome!
06:51 magnuse Joubu++
07:01 * dcook waves to magnuse
07:01 dcook FYI I always think of your name as "mag-noose" rather "magnus-e" heh
07:02 dcook fewer syllables I guess. Maybe I'm lazy
07:14 fridolin hi there
07:14 wahanui bidet, fridolin
07:16 fridolin arf yesterday was dev meeting, sorry i couldnt make it
07:18 cait fridolin: just checked - the strings for 20.11 pushed last are still missing. were you in touch with Bernardo?
07:19 cait eager to translate, as I am currently locked out of other thigns here...
07:23 fridolin cait: i will mail im, he said he exports strings on each 15th
07:23 cait he did
07:23 cait you announced later
07:24 cait i had already translated the updates from 15th
07:24 cait i check almost every day, since we are slowly working through translating the manual... 10 minutes a day if possible :)
07:26 Joubu rangi: new merge request for the dashboard - https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dashboard/-/merge_requests/114
07:29 magnuse dcook: it's really just magnus, the e is from my surname, because the magnus nick was taken when we moved to oftc :-)
07:40 ashimema monring
07:41 cait good morning ashimema
07:42 ashimema Think I'll have an accounts day today.. seems people are suddenly finding bugs with cash management
09:31 dersmon hi everyone
09:32 dersmon i got a follow up question to yesterdays error
09:32 dersmon quick recap: i get a "Uncaught TypeError: b.settings()[0].aoColumns[c] is undefined" in my basket.pl view
09:34 dersmon which blocks initialization of other components (we tripped over this when we were unable to reopen baskets)
09:34 dersmon i removed the columnsettings and now everything else seems to be working as expected:
09:34 Joubu dersmon: which exact Koha version do you use?
09:36 ashimema hum
09:36 ashimema whens the next documentation meeting?
09:36 dersmon https://pastebin.com/ppewxL9m
09:36 dersmon we are currently on 19.05.17
09:36 dersmon which is quite old, i am aware
09:37 dersmon the columnsettings look like this:
09:37 dersmon https://pastebin.com/hpuPfsVq
09:37 dersmon so
09:38 dersmon now it works for me, but i am unsure which unintended consequences deleting the column settings may have
09:38 dersmon so i thought i'd ask ;)
09:38 Joubu it won't display the "columns" button at the top of the table
09:39 Joubu that's all
09:39 Joubu just tested right now on 19.05.17 and it's working ok for me
09:42 dersmon interesting
09:42 dersmon do you see anything in the columnsettings variable pasted above?
09:44 dersmon we did a minor upgrade from 19.05.07 because of some elastic search error, before we did not have that problem
09:45 Joubu dersmon: http://paste.koha-community.org/213
09:46 Joubu I've played a bit with the hidden values in the admin area
09:46 Joubu so it's not the default values that are displayed
09:48 Joubu dersmon: you can try and delete the entries in columns_settings related to this table
09:48 Joubu module=acqui, page=basket, tablename=orders
09:48 Joubu in the DB I mean
09:49 dersmon then it will be re-added based on some config file?
09:50 Joubu yes, admin/columns_settings.yml
09:50 dersmon ok cool, will try
09:50 dersmon thank you :)
09:52 dersmon hm
09:52 dersmon i only got some cataloguing entries
09:52 dersmon xD
09:54 Joubu weird. Sorry I cannot help you more for a version that is no longer maintained. But comment the line, it won't hurt more than removing the "Columns" button to hide/show columns by default
09:55 dersmon yeah
09:55 dersmon so this means that we are actually using the defaults?
09:55 dersmon i mean the fact that there are no entries in the database for acqui
09:55 Joubu no, defaults are in the js variable
09:56 Joubu defaults are picked from the yml file. The admin interface let you overwrite the file, and if you do so the DB will contain your config.
09:56 Joubu 906 var columns_settings = [% ColumnsSettings.GetColumns( 'acqui', 'basket', 'orders', 'json' ) | $raw %];
09:56 Joubu this line is retrieving the "current state" (either default or specific)
09:57 Joubu 909 KohaTable("orders", {
09:57 Joubu [...]
09:57 dersmon i see
09:57 Joubu 919 }, columns_settings);
09:57 Joubu ^ this is telling: create me a table on "#orders" with this columns settings
09:57 Joubu if you replace 919 with "});" the table will be created without the "columns settings" featuer
09:57 Joubu feature
09:58 Joubu one other possibility is that your cached version of the yml file is not up-to-date
09:59 Joubu but if you upgraded, you certainly reset the cache anyway
10:24 fridolin cait: Bernardo tells me PO files where updated on 15th, but a few commits pushed after impact strings so he updated right now
10:25 fridolin should be ok now
10:25 Joubu mtj: you created the "Wiki team" on the roles for 21.11, but the link points to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles#Wiki_team which is not created
10:25 Joubu thx fridolin!
10:36 oleonard o/
10:46 oleonard This would be a great day to QA Bug 27566... Y'know, if you were a QA person maybe
10:46 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , CSS rule not applying to HTML select / option - displays with serif font ignoring rules
10:50 tcohen morning
11:22 cait fridolin: thx - there are some quite prominent strings changed, like the navigation links
11:26 cait fridolin: updates happened now, i have translated. Maybe worth another email? other might have already checked and won't do it again
11:41 fridolin yep ok
11:54 cait fridolin++
12:38 tcohen oleonard around?
12:39 oleonard Present
12:39 tcohen in your vast experience
12:39 tcohen he
12:39 tcohen is it common to find some glossary of icons in the UI
12:40 tcohen for example: on the circ page, current checkouts, we provide some information in a textual way
12:40 tcohen and it feels like we could be using self-explanatory icons
12:40 tcohen and/or colors
12:40 tcohen with maybe such glossary
12:41 tcohen so, instead of just a warning icon with a tooltip, have an explanation on the UI
12:41 tcohen and then add new icons for new things you want to highlight
12:41 tcohen for example, a checkout is flagged for automatic checkin
12:42 tcohen I would hate to add, yet more, text saying 'This is scheduled for automatic checkin'
12:42 * ashimema likes icons with tooltips
12:43 oleonard Yeah I think if we use an icon to communicate all by itself we need a tooltip of some kind
12:43 tcohen oh my oh my
12:43 oleonard I don't think it's fair the user to make them refer to a separate thing in order to understand the interface
12:43 * tcohen is happy to see new routes pushed
12:43 tcohen haha
12:44 tcohen oleonard thanks, that was my doubt
12:44 oleonard I agree that there are cases where it's nice to use an icon by itself instead of text, especially for a page like the circ page where it's crowded already
12:45 tcohen ✌ðŸ»
12:46 Joubu tcohen: I would add something similar to the auto renewal flag
12:49 tcohen good
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28064: (QA follow-up) Remove value from button <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e77fa64e31cdf026030c4a354bf73e4ee7e2bb14>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16787: DBRev 20.12.00.036 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ac1067b64edfb8d250d61b5242bdefbe241cf83>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16787: (follow-up) Add noReservesAllowed to ERROR_MAP <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9c2416b94cec6718d29ccd24750dbec2560d6d1>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23195: (follow-up) One text invoice should be open <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cabe5e184fb1d02464eda4de859bb6ebf2109d9>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28157: Add handling for the x-koha-library header <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d1b7ca3a05466d5b6307e112adcb94c311f668b>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28157: Regression tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d84ca49570343b729dd515d50742833cdd07e5fb>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28157: Add Koha::Patron->can_log_into <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a8855b789bd9595639cac8e6ed74a3a9cefb5a1>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16787: (follow-up) Fix check to ensure reasons are passed to template <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=750a7646b8529eb228d8192464bc5821c58c10fb>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23195: Always count shipping costs as 'spent' <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83941d2ee18c4c94485b0feea510d5899c1ee050>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23195: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d505e5ba06ba12194676b5183bed4827d4b9eea>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28002: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fee4a653f4819c5b73e6dcb46149a980385b3349>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28064: Add dotransfer field to slip print submission <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccd72425327d50ec7595f48021f9e53a30c0b90d>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23666: (follow-up) Adjust to new exceptions <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=49d764e413c58b580e45541626e007d2aa993c7c>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28002: Add extended_attributes support to POST /patrons <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79087e0674258f79a3e810f0bcbcb6a0246b2bdf>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23666: Add PATCH /patron/:patron_id/extended_attributes/:extended_attribute_id <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d011bd9983926488f783730ca43e98e6e07dabe>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23666: (QA follow-up) Fix wrong required permissions <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12b6d1f79201f7d0702199afb841dc3ed24ff94b>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23666: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e964b12284355e973265cbf1645526e3e5dfad9>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23666: Add extended attributes routes <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd2e57a13f0ce4e27b55eb23481b104e78a53af8>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23666: Add spec <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13bebbaa26161badb4ad490d7477a17cb9d8b420>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27240: Basket export cleanup. <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e5d654c7ae16167af347adfd1e5008cb4d99034>
12:54 kohaputti interesting, it is possible to define decimal number for how many holds are possible :D
12:58 kohaputti and seems to be possible to break the smart-rules.pl if enough decimals :D http://paste.debian.net/plain/1194680
12:59 oleonard kohaputti: I'm surprised a library hasn't asked for official support for half a hold
12:59 caroline_catlady interesting!
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13:27 Joubu mtj, tcohen: timeout for all the master jobs upped to 20min (instead of default 10)
13:27 Joubu (timeout for the git fetch)
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13:34 mtj hi koha, thanks Joubu
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13:35 Joubu it should pull instead of wipe out at the end of the job and clone the whole repo before starting a job
13:40 mtj Joubu: any plans to move jenkins builds over to your great build.pl script?
13:41 Joubu mtj: yes, I am waiting for tcohen's stamp on the merge request
13:41 tcohen gimme a few
13:41 mtj ok ok :p
13:43 mtj i see ubuntu 21.04 is released today, shall we add some ktd/jenkins builds for it?
13:46 Joubu mtj: we should rename Koha_Master_U2010 with Koha_Master_Ubuntu_Latest
13:47 Joubu and yes, make it use U21.04
13:47 mtj Joubu: great idea
13:47 Joubu happy to let you do it if you want to :)
13:48 mtj ok, can do
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14:03 Joubu mtj, tcohen: do you know why we set "delete workspace before build starts" for our jobs?
14:05 mtj its to stop jenkins from using too much disk space, and crashing the system
14:06 Joubu mtj: but I bet it's also why we have to clone the repo before the job starts :)
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14:07 mtj Joubu: yes its true
14:10 mtj always repo cloning is bad... but its probably better than having the jenkins nodes randomly crash
14:11 tcohen well
14:11 Joubu the problem is that now we have 7 nodes cloning the repo at the same time when a push happened :)
14:11 tcohen we use clones from a local clone
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14:11 tcohen Koha_Source is already there
14:12 tcohen so it should just be updating that with the latests refs
14:12 tcohen and performing a shallow clone, locally
14:12 Joubu tcohen: definitely not what happened ~20min ago
14:12 Joubu https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/270/console
14:12 Joubu 14:51:10 Using reference repository: /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Source
14:12 Joubu ha, yes
14:13 tcohen well, so gitea was overloaded and failed with small chunks
14:13 Joubu I don't understand why it was so slow then
14:14 Joubu good news, so the behaviour is correct :)
14:15 mtj if we disable 'delete workspace', im not sure how much extra disk a node would need
14:15 tcohen "good news" LOL
14:15 Joubu I was confused by the "15:01:11 ERROR: Error cloning remote repo 'origin'"
14:15 Joubu which is actually a timeout for the git fetch, not a git clone
14:15 ashimema oleonard around?
14:15 Joubu tcohen: yes it's good news, we don't clone the repo for each job
14:16 tcohen https://snipboard.io/Dkz0w5.jpg
14:16 tcohen no swap usage
14:16 Joubu upping the timeout to 20min is the only thing we can do for now then
14:17 mtj Joubu, tcohen - do we switch to a mirror repo to help with the load? (gitlab/github)
14:17 tcohen not a bad idea
14:17 Joubu not gitlab
14:17 tcohen yeah, that's the issue
14:17 Joubu the problem is the repo won't necessarily up-to-date
14:17 tcohen let's keep trying with gitea
14:17 Joubu be*
14:18 tcohen Gitlab has size limitations
14:18 Joubu no, gitlab is not syncing when a push happened
14:18 Joubu github is synced with a gitea post-push hook
14:19 tcohen github then?
14:19 Joubu but, on a big push, you may have a sync issue (jenkins triggered before github mirror is done)
14:20 oleonard I'm here ashimema
14:20 Joubu tcohen: we can try
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14:21 ashimema I'm struggling again with bloomin number inputs and accessability/localisation
14:21 ashimema I think our ACC guidelines is wrong
14:21 ashimema the UK gov site recommends one thing.. then links of to examples that actually recommend something different again.
14:22 oleonard :/
14:23 ashimema I'm tempted to ditch the pattern match entirely.. thoughts?
14:23 caroline_catlady government making it easy for citizen to find accurate info on their website since 1990!
14:23 ashimema https://design-system.service.gov.uk/components/text-input/#numbersI'm looking at 'Asking for decimal numbers' on
14:23 Joubu mtj, tcohen: I am going to update master's jobs to use build.pl, and will switch some jobs to use github
14:24 ashimema currently our guideline recommends 'pattern="[0-9]*"'
14:24 ashimema which actually prevents `.` and `,` doesn't it
14:24 ashimema which you found and fixed in some places.. but not all
14:24 ashimema on the manual invoice page you updated it to `^\d+(\.\d{2})?$`
14:24 ashimema but.. that prevents ',' in french
14:25 ashimema hence my thinking just remove that validation entirely (which reminds me.. 'amount' is a required field.. but it's not marked as such on manual invoice or manual credit forms
14:26 mtj Joubu: i think github is a good start
14:27 oleonard ashimema: So their recommendation is "just use a text input, whatever." Without any advice on how to provide validation.
14:28 ashimema pretty much :(
14:28 ashimema `<input type="text" inputmode="numeric">` I think
14:29 oleonard It would certainly be nice to hear more details about why inputmode decimal doesn't work sometimes.
14:29 mtj tcohen, Joubu, i think we can eventually disable 'delete workspace', but we will need to make sure the nodes have enough disk space - which has been an historic problem for us
14:29 ashimema I bet it's a bug in certain phones
14:29 ashimema I've not seen it in real life
14:29 ashimema but I only have one phone to play with.. haha
14:29 mtj tcohen, Joubu so, better system monitoring/alerting, ssh access etc
14:30 ashimema I still kinda like input masks..
14:30 ashimema but
14:30 ashimema I have no idea how accessible they are..
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14:30 ashimema it causes us no end of issues having mixtures of 1,000.00 or 1.000,00 for example
14:35 ashimema I reckon we'd be safe to allow almost anything .. to allow for pasting
14:35 ashimema then post process it..
14:36 ashimema dropping symbols other than .,\d (like USD or $ for example)
14:36 ashimema then working from the tail backwards and looking for the first non digit char ( comma or dot)
14:36 ashimema if it's two places in.. it's the decimal separator
14:37 ashimema if it's three it's a thausand separator..
14:37 ashimema if it's a thausand separator and we've not come accross a decimal one.. add two '0' and a decimal sep
14:38 ashimema sounds complicated.. but should do the trick I reckon
14:38 * ashimema goes looking at the jquery validator docs and if they support validation functions
14:44 caroline_catlady do any of your libraries not allow on shelf holds?
14:47 oleonard We've always allowed on-shelf holds.
14:48 caroline_catlady I have a case of a library who does not allow on shelf holds, but for serials, I specified in the circ rules that opac users are forced to choose a specific item
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14:49 caroline_catlady I think even though on-shelf holds are not allowed, if one item in a serial record is checked out, I should be able to place a hold on that item?
14:49 caroline_catlady I think I'll just try to convince them to allow on-shelf holds lol!
14:50 caroline_catlady I don't think a lot of libraries still don't allow on-shelf holds, it's probably a very fringe case
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14:51 oleonard caroline_catlady: What you describe does sound like a bug, but I fear it would be difficult to fix
14:52 caroline_catlady holds are never an easy fix from what I understand
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14:54 caroline_catlady maybe i just still misunderstand the options of the on-shelf holds options (yes, if any unavailable, if all unavailable)
14:55 Joubu mtj, tcohen: https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/104
14:56 Joubu mtj, tcohen: and also the comment there - https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/102
15:00 reiveune bye
15:09 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:09 wahanui Congratulations!
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15:14 Joubu ashimema: number validation - not sure I am understand. I would base the validation on a pref or the locale of the browser
15:15 Joubu s/ am//
15:15 Joubu kidclamp: could you have a look at the failing test from bug 16787?
15:15 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16787 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , 'Too many holds' message appears inappropriately and is missing data
15:16 kidclamp looking
15:22 ashimema What about canada Joubu
15:23 ashimema I'm told they interchangably format number because of their history (french + english)
15:23 caroline_catlady we're weird
15:23 ashimema so they might have 1,000.00 and 1.000,00 in use on the same system
15:23 ashimema correct me if I'm wrong caroline
15:23 caroline_catlady I've never seen 1.000,00
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15:23 ashimema oh really
15:23 ashimema my sources are wrong then.. haha
15:24 caroline_catlady it could be 1,000.00 or 1 000,00 or 1 000.00 or 1000,00 or 1000.00
15:24 Joubu just wondering if adding a number with more than 2 decimals won't break your validation
15:24 Joubu think... bitcoin.. :D
15:24 * ashimema hasn't traded in bitcoin yet..
15:25 caroline_catlady But I would be comfortable telling people to always use the same format
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15:25 ashimema did those ******** decide to go wierd and trade with more than two palces
15:25 ashimema places.. even
15:25 caroline_catlady like in excel, you choose a format ad use that one exclusively
15:26 Joubu 10€=0.0022044BTC
15:26 ashimema can't we all just trade in the smallest unit
15:26 Joubu supporting numbers with more than 2 decimals can be important
15:27 caroline_catlady we do sometimes have issues with rounding because our tax rates have 4 decimals
15:27 ashimema bitcoin is a right mare.. what is the smallest tradable unit of a bitcoin..
15:27 ashimema or do they literally not care.. because it's entirely electronic
15:28 ashimema either way.. I think we need to drop the pattern match for our numeric fields
15:29 ashimema well.. out non-integer ones at least
15:29 kidclamp patch there Joubu
15:29 ashimema I'll trade you half a pig for a patch that fixes all our decimal and rounding issues kidclamp
15:30 oleonard Do I hear .5025 pigs?
15:31 ashimema How about half a pig and one chicken?
15:31 kidclamp rm -rf ./acqui; git commit -a -m "Remove problems"
15:31 Joubu thanks kidclamp, will push a bit later today
15:31 ashimema you forgot accounts kidclamp ;')
15:31 * ashimema read that as Joubu was going to nuke acq for us
15:32 oleonard \o/
15:32 kidclamp fair enough ashimema - you can have all my haypennies when you clean up my patch
15:32 Joubu acqui is not enough to get rid ot the problems
15:32 Joubu -m "Remove problems - part 1"
15:32 kidclamp what if we just stoppped having users?
15:33 oleonard How would we know who to ask for money?
15:33 ashimema rm -rf /kohaclone; git commit -a -m "Problem solved"
15:33 kidclamp "Mischief managed"
15:33 Joubu you removed the git repo
15:33 ashimema lol
15:33 ashimema oops
15:33 tuxayo PTFS-E's accounting will have questions when seeing an invoice for .5025 pig + 1 chicken shipped to the USA
15:34 ashimema 😂
15:34 ashimema you
15:34 ashimema oop
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16:29 Bob Bonjour
16:30 caroline_catlady now I have the Beauty & the Beast "Bonjour" song in my head lol! Bonjour! Bonjour! Bonjour, Bonjour Bonjour!
16:30 Bob Hi !
16:30 caroline_catlady There goes the baker with his tray like always!
16:30 caroline_catlady (sorry I can sing disney songs for days)
16:31 Bob I have a issue with koha, is it the right place ?
16:31 caroline_catlady yes, don't mind my ramblings
16:31 Bob ;-)
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16:34 kohaputti has anybody investigated startmans --preload-app option for Koha? I notice my RAM usage went down almost 2G when using --preload-app and loading plack happens in split second instead of taking 5-10 seconds.
16:35 kohaputti https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Starman/script/starman mentions it might have unwanted side effects so I don't know if that applies to koha
16:37 Bob I have this message in validation " Les champs du biblio.biblionumber et du biblioitems.biblioitemnumber doivent être liés à un sous-champ MARC," but I cannot edit those fields in koha => MARC... what can I do?
16:39 kohaputti oh, the doc also mentions the -M option to starman, so even if some of our code cannot use this preload feature we could use it in other parts
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16:42 caroline_catlady Bob I've never tried it, but maybe you can edit your bibliographic framework by exporting and importing it back
16:43 Bob Ok I will try, thanks for you help
16:43 caroline_catlady Bob https://inlibro.com/knowledge-base/modification-dune-grille-de-catalogage-marc-par-exportation-et-importation-2/
16:43 caroline_catlady it would be in the "kohafield" column
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16:47 Bob I koha-jenkins am using a fresh install of koha 20.11.04.000
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16:51 tuxayo Is that a big deal in "MARC bibliographic framework test" to have:
16:51 tuxayo The biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber fields be mapped to a MARC subfield,
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16:53 tuxayo unimarc test data have this error but marc21 doesn't
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17:23 tcohen tuxayo it means things are broken?
17:28 tuxayo tcohen: maybe, i was helping someone to troubleshoot issues and this check was failing. But so it does on unimarc base data. And I found a unimarc demo with also this check failing
17:28 tcohen this is about 999$b and 999$c being mapped
17:28 tcohen right?
17:28 tuxayo So I directed them to the french mailing list to ask if other working instances have this failing check.
17:29 tuxayo In unimarc base data it's 001 @ and 090 a . Maybe the check is only for marc21
17:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16787: (follow-up) Add and adjust ILSDI tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f096a8dffcb35c153c3f4f27ce5767b1c7fb3f75>
17:34 caroline_catlady tuxayo: I don't know if it's marc21 specific... I think it looks at Administration > Koha to MARC mapping and checks if biblionumber and biblioitemnumber have values
17:34 caroline_catlady if it's a fresh install, I think maybe something in the default framework is broken?
17:35 tuxayo fresh 20.11.04
17:35 tuxayo Even if they have values, the check fails
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17:37 caroline_catlady the sql for the framework seems ok... if it's juste that the check fails, I wouldn't worry about it too much, as long as they can catalog and the records are saved
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17:40 tuxayo thanks for the check caroline_catlady
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17:44 tuxayo code «# checks biblio.biblionumber and biblioitem.biblioitemnumber (same tag and tab=-1)
17:44 tuxayo »
17:44 tuxayo It's the same tag in marc21 but not in unimarc
17:44 tuxayo hence the check failing
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17:44 caroline_catlady ah!
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17:45 caroline_catlady I don't know why it has to be in the same tag...
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18:13 caroline_catlady khall++
18:18 * caroline_catlady wishes we could have a koha cookbook potluck
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19:17 tuxayo Is that expected :
19:17 tuxayo 1. Administration › MARC frameworks => new framework
19:17 tuxayo 2. Marc structure
19:17 tuxayo 3. Internal server error
19:17 caroline_catlady lol!
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19:59 cait not quite
19:59 cait it should ask you to copy an existing on
19:59 cait e
20:00 cait tuxayo: I don't replicate on master?
20:00 tuxayo cait: thanks I will do more tests
20:01 cait hm maybe i should repeat after a git pull
20:02 cait any special chars in your frameowrkcode?
20:03 cait tuxayo: latest master is still ok for me
20:08 philor fails for me: MARC bibliographic framework > New framework, code ABC description DEF, Submit, find it in the list, Actions > MARC structure, boom
20:09 philor not that I would actually ever do anything other than create > import, I'm not going to create a whole framework from scratch
20:57 tuxayo thanks both for trying :)
20:57 tuxayo So it seems it can crash. Now trying to find what could be different.
21:00 tuxayo 'koha_kohadev.biblio_framework.frameworktext' isn't in GROUP BY [for Statement "select count(*),marc_tag_structure.frameworkcode,frameworktext from marc_tag_structure,biblio_framework
21:00 tuxayo WHERE biblio_framework.frameworkcode=marc_tag_structure.frameworkcode group by marc_tag_structure.frameworkcode"]
21:04 tuxayo Might be the DBMS, which are yours cait , philor ? Mine is MariaDB 10.5
21:04 tuxayo A PTFS-E sandbox have MariaDB 10.1 and it crashes
21:13 philor tuxayo: maria 10.1 for me, too
21:34 cait that certainly looks like "strict mode" striking again
21:35 cait look for the mysql omnibus bug
21:35 cait and file it
21:35 cait hter are more like it that require rewrites
23:16 tuxayo :o thanks
23:52 tuxayo Is bug 17258 the one about SQL strict mode?
23:52 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17258 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , [OMNIBUS] MySQL 5.7