Time Nick Message 06:29 reiveune hello 06:29 wahanui what's up, reiveune 06:46 alex_a Bonjour 06:46 wahanui bidet, alex_a 07:32 ashimema morning 07:57 magnuse \o/ 08:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 14233: Set default for NoticesLog to 0 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa71e7132c3a5d956ef35e3e4d47502852f65808> 08:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28055: (follow-up) Revert changes to aoColumnDefs option name <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4625df32284b2432397fe447d2c26707bb5e1632> 08:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27069: (follow-up) Only display rules if one is set <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a3a9a17c643b056594407af0ffba2998113a1a2> 08:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #561: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/561/ 08:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1614: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1614/ 08:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #149: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/149/ 09:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #259: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/259/ 09:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #544: SUCCESS in 1 hr 11 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/544/ 09:54 severine_q Hello #koha ! 09:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #289: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/289/ 10:22 oleonard Hi all 10:30 severine_q Hello oleonard :) 10:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1618: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1618/ 11:13 oleonard Anyone willing to sign off on Bug 27566? Help me recover from my terrible mistake? 11:13 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , CSS rule not applying to HTML select / option - displays with serif font ignoring rules 11:25 oleonard Joubu around? 11:26 Joubu yes 11:26 oleonard You're quite right about Bug 27830.... the FR and DE address formats end up being identical 11:26 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27830 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , OPAC library list does not use AddressFormat 11:26 oleonard That's because library addresses don't use Street Type or Street Number. 11:27 Joubu yes, that's the feeling I had when I read the include file 11:27 oleonard Is there any reason to keep things the way they are JUST IN CASE library addresses change to use street type and number? 11:27 Joubu I'd suggest to create a new block "display_library_address_fr_de", fr and de blocks will call it 11:27 Joubu we can split them later if we need it 11:28 oleonard Okay, will do 11:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1619: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1619/ 11:40 tcohen buen dÃa 11:42 oleonard Hi tcohen 11:55 oleonard davidnind++ 12:05 Joubu oleonard: https://snipboard.io/bzRJ1C.jpg - just noticed a weird shift on the patron result view 12:06 Joubu the toolbar is few pixels on the left, and each th is not aligned with the td of the table 12:16 oleonard It's a mystery 12:19 oleonard ByWater sandboxes still down? 12:34 oleonard I can't seem to reproduce the problem described in Bug 28118 12:34 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28118 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Fix missing "selected" attribute in "Pickup at" dropdown 12:35 oleonard When I place a hold for the patron the selected library == the library I'm logged in at. Isn't that correct? 12:41 oleonard Joubu tcohen ^^ 12:42 tcohen it is correct 12:42 tcohen that's what the patch does 12:42 tcohen BUT 12:42 tcohen there was another bug, which changed which branch is taken into account for determining if an item can be reserved 12:43 tcohen which left $pickup // <the right way to calculate that branch> 12:43 tcohen so my original patch would revert that fix 12:43 Joubu I would keep || instead of // 12:43 tcohen so I sent a follow-up, that removed the $pickup // portion 12:44 tcohen why? 12:44 Joubu for empty string 12:45 tcohen but why do we care about $pickup there? 12:45 tcohen I removed it entirely 12:46 tcohen I think the $pickup variable is only used to (a) set a default on the template (b) in case of an error (?) ir carries the previous selection 12:47 Joubu I actually think it's a left-over 12:47 Joubu when it got pushed, we were not using the api route 12:47 Joubu aa221e0c8bcf0fa0377d6c2154bad0ef61c97a2b 12:47 Joubu Bug 27071: Use GetReservesControlBranch to pick the branch 12:47 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27071 critical, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Hold pickup library match not enforced correctly on intranet when using hold groups 12:48 Joubu test plan from this patch needs to be followed as well 12:54 tcohen yes, it was a leftover, that only worked because the patchset removed setting userenv 13:13 ashimema Joubu still around? 13:14 Joubu yes 13:14 ashimema did you squash lots on bug 26734 upon push? 13:14 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26734 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Convert accounts (monetary) notices to use GetPreparedLetter 13:14 ashimema it looks like most of it is missing from master 13:15 * ashimema is trying to rebase bug 26689 but it, to me, doesn't look like 26734 is actually applied to master 13:15 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Patch doesn't apply , Monetary accounts notices should be definable at the credit_type/debit_type level 13:16 Joubu I didn't mean to push 26734! 13:17 ashimema aha, I see 13:17 Joubu I forgot to remove one line during a rebase -i :-/ 13:17 ashimema ok.. well let me know what you want to do 13:17 Joubu I don't manage to convince myself it's ok to push it 13:17 Joubu because of the notice templates 13:17 ashimema mm 13:17 Joubu for now consider the first patch reverted 13:28 ashimema ta 13:37 ashimema anyone around whose familiar with the holds process and what should happen when you receive a transfer that was initiated by a hold? 13:49 ashimema all sorted 14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21260: DBRev 20.12.00.031 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=49a795ceb3273627c9f3ec8edd95f709ef7ebce9> 14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21549: DBRev 20.12.00.030 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=871a2fc6ffe4f8f6fb21bb15ce6d27a241c60595> 14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27773: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a75139bfccc7e856efcc3a6996f78d09bdd0a08> 14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21260: (follow-up) Consolidate preference <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7956605401be015d34367ce474a1b3b574c31ca> 14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28132: (follow-up) Update basket group page <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c30c8c7a5367cb68bd1a2db16972f8668a630282> 14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21549: Make filter_by_last_update returns a Koha::Objects-based object <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b010b6905225a64c2e265d92d66365ea1c4a646b> 14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28136: Handle Transferred status for ResFound <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d7f55a8748c5e148d805195e314f189c886a492> 14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21549: Rename filter_by_dateexpiry with filter_by_expiration_date <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c58590f58df6825d39c8c973e56f237722fcfa2> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21549: Use filter_by_last_update from filter_by_dateexpiry <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4ad6987f76b018b21705a276ec149e0619776b9> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27695: (follow-up) Add specificity to CSS changes <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c42c24fa03709496d0c21b98fe7db228f02d3983> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28114: Fix error in MARC21slim2OPACResults - correctly select singleBranchMode <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0aadb774a981b3599e3445d0bd0e61ad544808c> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28110: Require YAML::XS 0.67 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ad325b82718462a223164957dba356968d2aa9c> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28014: Add table settings to batch patron modification <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24f510d479a2d6bbcd1a0d73b51e388e15824b6c> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21549: (QA follow-up) Get pref at start of run and rename variable <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f0effd9a0bb80b2d504d8f2f886461730f3b7d7> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21549: (follow-up) Adjust preference description <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b43cedcd86754a6f590a756b7398c61f77844db0> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21549: (follow-up) Switch to filter_by <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cad75c394018055270f9204066d74c014894cb8> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27773: Hide unique holidays and exceptions which have passed <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d3bf55cdcc6619959edac8db3715e5238210e65> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27746: prevent regexp undefined warning when checking subfield contents ($oclc) <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a34e1f9f0d32e4cf0f282016e52166d309b25ef7> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27695: Fix style of messages on Elasticsearch configuration page <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9d2aa498b38343f51a51822c68995bd72110d50> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21549: Database revision for new preference <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=46ae8a2cdb899d21e02a867bc86d02a37caf3b72> 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21549: Lock expired patron accounts <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e85ac9612fd942bf613d52f2e3f06fc0da28162> 14:23 oleonard ashimema: Do you know why I would not be able to upload files on a PTFS-E sandbox? 14:23 ashimema erm 14:23 ashimema can you on ByWater ones 14:24 ashimema I don't know off the top of my head if we set the directories in the config on sandboxes 14:24 oleonard ByWater sandboxes have been broken for many days 14:26 ashimema oh 14:26 ashimema does khall know? 14:44 Joubu General meeting in 15 14:45 tuxayo thank, I would have missed it! 14:48 khall oleonard still? That server got deleted by accident, it should have been restored by now! 14:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1615: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1615/ 14:59 oleonard khall: Yeah still (or it worked for a while and I missed it?) 15:00 henryb Is there a meeting now? 15:00 ashimema will be as soon as Joubu starts it 15:00 ashimema I think 15:00 Joubu #startmeeting General IRC meeting 14 April 2021 15:00 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 14 15:00:54 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_14_april_2021' 15:01 Joubu #topic Introductions 15:01 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 15:01 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 15:01 Joubu #chair ashimema 15:01 huginn Current chairs: Joubu ashimema 15:01 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 15:01 henryb #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK 15:01 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 15:01 Joubu qa_team? 15:01 wahanui rumour has it qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo 15:01 Joubu rmaints? 15:01 wahanui rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo 15:02 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 15:02 Joubu #topic Announcements 15:02 Joubu Anyone have something? 15:03 ashimema Nope.. 15:03 Joubu #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) 15:03 Joubu Release dates for 21.05 will be publish soon, 21.05.00 should be expected for May 28th. 15:03 ashimema not far from release now I suppose 15:03 Joubu Don't expected freshly published big things to be part of 21.05, and please focus on what is in the queue already. 15:03 ashimema do you have release timeline for May Joubu? 15:03 Joubu It would be great to see some progress on the roadmap topics and the RM priorities: 15:03 ashimema oh.. and the roles page is open 15:03 ashimema that could be announced 15:04 Joubu * QA needed on bug 22544, bug 26703, bug 27623, bug 27624 and bug 27625 15:04 Joubu * Help QA failures on bug 14957 15:04 * ashimema was a bit slow off the mark there 15:04 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move C4:NewsChannels to Koha namespace 15:04 Joubu * SO + QA on bug 27526 15:04 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wainuiwitikapark, Signed Off , We should reconsider best practice for our title elements 15:04 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27623 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove pl-PL installer data 15:04 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27624 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove ru-RU installer data 15:04 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27625 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove uk-UA installer data 15:04 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 new feature, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Failed QA , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import 15:04 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27526 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove Mod/AddItemFromMarc from additem.pl 15:04 Joubu There are also a bunch a major bugfixes waiting for QA, and 7 criticals (!) 15:04 Joubu #info QA needed on bug 22544, bug 26703, bug 27623, bug 27624 and bug 27625 15:04 Joubu #info Several majors and criticals in the queue right now 15:04 Joubu The roles for 21.11 are opened - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.05 15:04 Joubu #info The roles for 21.11 are opened - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.05 15:05 Joubu We are missing a release maintainer for 21.05 and it would be nice to see the QA team growing a bit more. 15:05 henryb Are there any priorities still needing sign off? 15:05 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:05 wahanui Congratulations! 15:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #260: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/260/ 15:05 ashimema You were working through all the title and header level bugs weren't you henryb.. 15:05 Joubu henryb: there is only 1 major waiting for SO 15:06 tuxayo #info errata, previous link: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.11 15:06 Joubu indeed! 15:06 ashimema that tree is high importance to me.. makeing sure they make sense again after the first bug makes them a bit all over the place as a first step 15:07 Joubu I've created a new 'IRC_meeting_facilitator' role. I described what I expected from the role there - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles#IRC_meeting_facilitator 15:07 Joubu Let me know if you are interested in doing it, I will be happy to help! 15:07 Joubu That's all for me 15:08 Joubu any questions? 15:08 henryb ashimema: sure, I'd lost track of where they'd got to but I can look at those 15:08 Joubu are you referring to bug 26703? 15:09 henryb I like the idea of an IRC_meeting_faciitator role (but I'm not volunteering!) 15:09 tuxayo 26703 - We should reconsider best practice for our title elements 15:10 ashimema Well, yes.. you highlighted that one Joubu 15:10 ashimema I was also thinking about the tree that hangs off bug 27610 15:10 henryb And bug 27876 too? 15:10 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wainuiwitikapark, Pushed to master , Accessibility: OPAC - <h1> on each page is Logo but should be page description/title 15:10 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wainuiwitikapark, ASSIGNED , Accessibility: OPAC - Reduce heading redundancy 15:10 Joubu yes, it's part of the priorities, mainly because it will be a nightmare to rebase 15:10 ashimema indeed 15:11 ashimema and the first one is pushed.. that one breaks the heirarchy in lots of places.. the subsequent ones fix it again 15:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #290: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/290/ 15:11 ashimema so yeah.. those one's would be really helpful to help me work through henryb.. I've lost track of them personally at the minute 15:13 Joubu ok, moving on 15:13 Joubu #topic Update on releases 15:13 Joubu I don't think there is much to highlight for stables 15:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #150: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/150/ 15:13 tuxayo 19.11: indeed 15:14 Joubu #topic Actions from last meeting 15:14 Joubu #topic 15:14 Joubu #topic caroline Officially announce KohaCon21 will be organized by Koha Pakistan Community & National Library of Pakistan 15:14 Joubu #info KohaCon21 announced on the list - https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2021-March/055951.html 15:14 cait1 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 15:15 Joubu #topic General development discussion 15:15 Joubu Info about the NSO and NQA queues: 15:15 Joubu both are quite high 15:15 Joubu NSO is 193 and NQA is 127 at the moment 15:15 Joubu I've bypassed QA this morning to help the QA team a bit 15:16 cait1 not good, but necessary 15:16 * ashimema kinda hit burn out and needed to switch to customer priority work for a couple of weeks.. I hope to get back to SO + QA soon 15:16 Joubu but we are really lacking movements, and the few around are loosing motivation 15:16 cait1 we need more hands on deck 15:17 Joubu what can we do? 15:17 cait1 yes, I've been very busy at work and that relfects in my tme for QA a lot 15:17 Joubu I can continue to skip QA but it's not ideal 15:17 cait1 I think calling on the other QA team member and trying to grow the team 15:17 cait1 I'll also try to catch up a bit 15:17 ashimema indeed.. it shouldn't be so noticeable when one or two of us have to prioritise other things for a week or two... I realise some people have stepped up a little whilst I've been out.. but the numbers are still telling. 15:19 cait1 I have another big event next week, after that it will hopefully improve a bit 15:19 cait1 i also can't touch some or they are out of my league, so need the dev people on the team to do those 15:20 cait1 we have quite a few bad bugs we need to focus on, but also some long sitting enh in the queue, that deserve a chance to make deadline 15:20 Joubu We are entering an important slot, few weeks left before the release. We need people around for the bugfixes and stabilisation period 15:20 cait1 exactly 15:20 cait1 bugs and the old things i am mostly worried about, a lot of them got close already once 15:21 Joubu the old things? 15:21 Joubu which ones do you have in mind? 15:21 cait1 we have soe things in qa queue from december, january and so on 15:21 cait1 last change date 15:21 cait1 we have been great managing the numbers and waiting times last cycle, but this cycle thigns have relapsed 15:22 cait1 (if that is a word you can use here?) 15:22 cait1 so we need to get pushing but at the same time ashimema and I are low on time - Call to QA Team for rescue! 15:22 Joubu ok, I have not much to offer/suggest, as said I will try to do some QA in the next following days 15:23 cait1 of course 15:23 cait1 that was just a summary and you do a lot - thx for that 15:23 Joubu and I will send an email to the team 15:23 cait1 i will try to catch up some until beginning of next week, at least to see where we are and where I can help most 15:23 Joubu (but it does not help much most of the time :D) 15:23 cait1 it's still something :) 15:24 * ashimema still thinks perhaps we need to somehow monetise QA.. 15:24 cait1 you know i keep pestering them weekly as well 15:24 ashimema but that's a broader discussion 15:24 Joubu it's more "give and take" 15:24 cait1 yeah, not something for this release at elast 15:26 Joubu another topic you have in mind before I close the meeting? 15:26 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting 15:27 Joubu #info Next meeting: 12 May 2021, 14 UTC 15:27 Joubu For the election team, will be a bit less than 3 weeks before the release 15:27 Joubu sounds reasonable 15:27 ashimema sounds good 15:27 cait1 maybe shoudl send the meeting date for election to list? 15:27 cait1 might hopefully trigger some more sign-ups 15:28 Joubu yes, please..? 15:28 Joubu :) 15:28 cait1 i was going to say, please don't make me do it 15:28 Joubu ashimema? 15:28 wahanui ashimema is suspecting network.. ashimema's ssh terminal is sluggish.. I type something and it take a second or two to actually appear 15:28 reiveune bye 15:28 cait1 we shoudl make reiveune do it 15:28 cait1 :) 15:28 tuxayo lololol 15:29 cait1 ooh a tuxayo 15:29 wahanui it has been said that a tuxayo is on a role 15:29 Joubu ok, I will send a reminder 15:29 Joubu #endmeeting 15:29 huginn Meeting ended Wed Apr 14 15:29:12 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:29 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/general_irc_meeting_14_april_2021.2021-04-14-15.00.html 15:29 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/general_irc_meeting_14_april_2021.2021-04-14-15.00.txt 15:29 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/general_irc_meeting_14_april_2021.2021-04-14-15.00.log.html 15:29 tuxayo :o 15:29 cait1 Joubu++ 15:29 cait1 we msised our chance to make tuxayo od it 15:29 oleonard Thanks Joubu 15:29 tuxayo >< 15:29 cait1 see al the typos are the reason i should not do it 15:29 cait1 oleonard++ too tuxayo++ and all the things :) 15:30 cait1 goign to log out, cya later! 15:31 tuxayo Joubu: I'm preparing the email for the election meeting ^^ 15:31 Joubu tuxayo: thanks! 15:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #545: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/545/ 15:39 ashimema thanks guys 15:39 ashimema sorry.. had to duck out for a phone call for a moment at the end there 16:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #562: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/562/ 16:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1620: SUCCESS in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1620/ 16:32 oleonard Anyone around who is familiar with background jobs? 16:33 oleonard I noticed we're outputting an English string ("finished") directly to the template... I'm wondering if there are other possible values for a background job's status. 16:34 oleonard Looks like "cancelled" and "started?" 16:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #563: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/563/ 18:42 kidclamp do we have a 'preferred browser' for koha? 18:42 kidclamp like is firefox our favorite? 18:43 kidclamp :q 18:45 oleonard Koha should work in any modern browser 18:45 oleonard Firefox, Chrome, Safari. 18:48 oleonard kidclamp: I feel like that question is followed by a browser-compatibility bug 18:57 tuxayo kidclamp: IIUC Firefox is the preferred one and is continuously tested but bugs reported against Chrome, Safari and Edge Chromium should be valid. 18:58 kidclamp we just had that 'preferred' in our head, but didn't know where it came from 18:58 kidclamp i.e. is that an official declaration fot he community 18:58 kidclamp or like, '9 out of 10 devs prefer' 18:59 tuxayo I wouldn't be surprised that chromium and chrome would be used by more than 1 dev out of 10. 18:59 oleonard I've lost track in my head of official declarations 19:00 tuxayo About official declaration, IE 11 has been kicked out. It's the only one I remember, though I'm not here for very long compared to the topic. 19:07 tuxayo Does IE 11 being officially dropped means that we acknowledge Edge Chromium being officially supported? (even if it's not tier 1 support) 19:10 tcohen old IE prevented us from evolving 19:10 tcohen that was the whole point 19:11 tcohen we should say developers test mainly on Firefox and Chromium-based browsers 19:11 tcohen at least that's my opinion 19:11 tcohen I wouldn't mention proprietary Chrome explicitly unless we want to highlight it 19:17 tuxayo Yep not advertising for non-libre browsers is better if possible. 19:18 tuxayo Found something! kidclamp tcohen 19:18 tuxayo https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/intro.html 19:18 tuxayo > When working in the Koha staff interface it is strongly recommended that you use an up-to-date version of either Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome. 19:18 tuxayo > The Koha community doesn’t support Internet Explorer for the staff interface. 19:18 tuxayo > If your organization only allows Microsoft products, use Edge instead of Internet Explorer. 19:18 tuxayo I remember the creation (or last edit) of this phrase was for the IE11 drop 19:23 tuxayo Meeting discussion about this: 19:23 tuxayo http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2020-07-15#i_2269641 19:55 kidclamp Tuxayo++ 23:39 dcook Anyone around in #koha atm? 23:47 tuxayo at bit around ^^ 23:47 tuxayo *a bit