Time Nick Message
20:52 oleonard See you later!
20:51 cait oleonard++
20:51 cait thx for checking!
20:50 cait ah ok that makes sense
20:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4
20:50 oleonard I would guess that the problem in 20.11.x and above was caused by Bug 20168
20:46 oleonard 20.11.x will require either a full backport or something in between.
20:45 oleonard cait: Simply adding the validation-strings include would fix 20.05.x I think
20:41 cait orignal report is even from 18.11
20:41 cait and then checked hte file was also not present on master
20:41 cait i had tested in in 20.05 to be honest
20:41 oleonard cait: 20.xx has the same problem the led me down the path I took today. It's broken. For me the validation errors are shown way down below the main part of the page.
20:36 * oleonard looks at 20.xx
20:35 cait would adding the file have owrked? i could brew up a patch for 20.xx myself then :)
20:35 cait usually love your bigger scope things :)
20:33 cait hm i am just a little worried about backporting
20:33 oleonard I hope the larger scope of my changes doesn't hold it up too much
20:33 cait thank you :)
20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27668 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Improve validation of patron entry form in the OPAC
20:31 oleonard Bug 27668 is the fruit of my T:T inquiries this morning
19:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27652 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Offer selections for preferences which ask for patron categories
19:29 oleonard Anyone care to sign off on a trivial followup to Bug 27652?
17:33 reiveune bye
16:24 Joubu bye #koha, see you tomorrow
16:17 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
16:17 Joubu @later tell dcook Hey David, can I count on you to provide patch on 27555, 27556 and 27557?
16:13 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
16:13 Joubu @later tell davidnind Hi David, we postponed your terminology suggestion during today's dev meeting. I put it on the next one's agenda (Feb 24th). Can you have a look and double check it please? Do you mean OPAC vs opac vs Opac?
15:59 tuxayo Joubu++
15:58 cait2 bye
15:57 ashimema I'm running of for a walk round the block now.. bbiab
15:57 ashimema Nice one peeps
15:57 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_10_february_2021.2021-02-10-15.01.log.html
15:57 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_10_february_2021.2021-02-10-15.01.txt
15:57 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_10_february_2021.2021-02-10-15.01.html
15:57 huginn Meeting ended Wed Feb 10 15:57:11 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:57 Joubu #endmeeting
15:56 Joubu is that correct?
15:56 Joubu #info Next meeting: 24 February 2021, 20 UTC
15:56 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting
15:56 cait2 use OPAC instead of Opac or opac
15:56 Joubu ok, will ask him and postpone
15:55 cait2 int he prefs
15:55 cait2 but i think it#s about the different spellings
15:55 cait2 maybe we can ask to clarify
15:55 cait2 the rename pref AllowOPACLists one
15:55 * ashimema switches to mobile
15:55 cait2 i had a discussion with him on a bug about this
15:55 cait2 or Opac
15:55 ashimema pass
15:55 cait2 maybe ... or catalog?
15:54 Joubu I don't get it
15:54 Joubu " Terminology list - proposed addition for OPAC: use OPAC instead of opac or OPAC for online public access catalog, including in system preference names. (davidnind) "
15:54 Joubu #topic Review of coding guidelines
15:54 Joubu haven't got reply
15:54 ashimema good plan
15:54 ashimema We need a clear roadmap/backlog to pick of more strictly in general
15:54 Joubu will stop to postpone this one I think
15:54 Joubu #action amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc.
15:53 Joubu #topic Actions from last meeting
15:53 ashimema 4 is good
15:53 Joubu yes
15:53 cait2 finishing?
15:53 cait2 and oly can add one from backlog, when one is done
15:53 ashimema well.. I'm not the RM anymore.. so can throw myself into code a bit more again :)
15:53 cait2 no 4 is good
15:53 cait2 we can add more
15:53 Joubu ..
15:53 cait2 and once done
15:53 Joubu or 6
15:53 Joubu or 5
15:53 Joubu we will have to limit to 4 topics next cycle
15:53 cait2 lol
15:52 cait2 and i am enabling him...
15:52 ashimema "helps"
15:52 Joubu your*
15:52 * ashimema helps with all the things
15:52 cait2 yeah he is terrible at that
15:52 ashimema hehe
15:52 Joubu ashimema: stop adding stuffs to you list!
15:52 cait2 that soudns good
15:52 cait2 i'll try to get in touchwith AndrewFH
15:52 ashimema happy to help with QA there cait.. if you wanted to double team it.
15:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Failed QA , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import
15:51 wahanui i guess bug 14957 is rebased against master I see
15:51 Joubu bug 14957
15:51 Joubu but I haven't followed closely
15:51 cait2 yes
15:51 cait2 it just got a rebase
15:51 Joubu there are movements there
15:51 Joubu #topic Write Protecting fields in Koha from being overwritten through import
15:51 Joubu I haven't heard anything about that
15:50 Joubu #topic Replace CGI scripts with Mojolicious controllers
15:50 cait2 :)
15:50 Joubu next date is March, for another meeting
15:50 Joubu We had a meeting, setup a git project
15:50 Joubu #topic Koha Cookbook Project
15:49 Joubu you will discuss detail off meeting :)
15:49 Joubu moving out
15:49 * ashimema wants to get out for his walk
15:49 wahanui next is Koha bibliography in Zotero
15:49 ashimema next?
15:49 ashimema okies
15:48 caroline I'll email bernardo and ask if we can point to his translated manuals or if he has an idea
15:48 cait2 we shoudl still regularly push the po files to another repo... having copies is good
15:48 ashimema I'm happy to get it working.. just need to know what people want..
15:47 cait2 maybe need to ask bernardo, as the translation server is struggling a bit too currently
15:47 cait2 there is some visual ifference in styling, but otherweise i'd be happy if we pointed to the tanslation server for the translated ones
15:47 caroline )I've had several failed pipes again today)
15:46 ashimema the community website server is struggling for space
15:46 caroline there was the duplication between translate.k-c and manual.k-c that we needed to address
15:46 caroline but that's another matter
15:46 ashimema if the translate server has the space.. perhaps we just use that..
15:46 caroline I was trying to find how to branch earlier today
15:46 ashimema or use bernardo's server
15:46 ashimema as for automating.. I need to talk to rangi or wizzyrea.. so we can do regular rsyncs
15:46 caroline I have to remember to do it, which I don't :(
15:46 cait2 and we might want to branch out 20.11 soon? currently no translations are built at all for 20.11
15:45 ashimema that now works.. i.e if caroline goes to the secret tools page, she can request a merge-request to get the latest translations and can merge them into the manual
15:45 ashimema I worked to get the pull request process working more cleanly
15:45 cait2 for the automation
15:45 cait2 i think we still lack the technical "plan" for it
15:44 caroline no, I'm not sure we decided anything
15:44 Joubu ashimema, cait2 , caroline: did something happen?
15:44 Joubu #topic Automated updates for translated manuals
15:43 ashimema ;)
15:43 cait2 more than 4 even i think :)
15:43 Joubu moving on
15:43 ashimema Slips: I've not had allot of time to focus on this one yet.. it's likely to get bits of movement soon, but will also carry on into the next cycle. Migrating the accounts slips to GetPrepparedLetter marks the start of me looking at this again.
15:43 Joubu good to know we are 4 already
15:43 Joubu that's for later :)
15:43 Joubu yes
15:43 * ashimema like fresh
15:43 ashimema +1
15:42 cait2 we could still start with a new installation and move stuff that is good maybe? I am not sure it's worth a big amount of effort really
15:42 Joubu we will take over thd, we need it to be done. I will try to find some time during the next cycle
15:42 caroline I'm happy to help if I can
15:42 thd Yes, I am stuck with a death of a former employer leaving a mountain of books and other things to address for the past few months,
15:42 Joubu ok
15:42 cait2 yes
15:41 Joubu we need to obsolete those pages
15:41 ashimema the wiki is a mess..
15:41 cait2 it can get really ocnfusing
15:41 wahanui for example is not fixed
15:41 cait2 for example
15:41 cait2 there is tons of old rfcs that never got implemented as described or at all
15:41 ashimema anyways.. happy to help when we know a direction
15:41 Joubu but we will copy some info from the wiki, that might add confusion
15:41 ashimema indeed
15:41 cait2 and i believe we shoudl tidy up some stuff
15:41 cait2 i think the wik woruld work, but some features currently don't work quite right
15:41 Joubu I am not totally against the idea
15:40 ashimema mmm
15:40 ashimema I sort of feel the guidelines could live in such a place too.. made clearer as an apendix to such a 'book'
15:40 Joubu ashimema: it's yet another places
15:40 cait2 i'd read it... if you start really low barrier
15:40 ashimema I feel the wiki upgrade has got us stuck for a very long time.. as that's still a work in progress... and may continue to be for some time to come.. I agree.. lets move the dev book to another platform
15:40 cait2 what about a series explaining more about the Koha objects?
15:39 cait2 maybe :)
15:39 Joubu I think that's the only ones that are up-to-date
15:39 cait2 the more boring things
15:39 cait2 it might also be time to review installation guides and such?
15:38 ashimema awesome Joubu :)
15:38 ashimema I could happily add a few more articles now I've learnt some more :)
15:38 Joubu ashimema: it's in my calendar already :D
15:38 ashimema but I've learnt allot since
15:38 cait2 lots of discussion things where the status is not clear
15:38 ashimema that was the focus area of the calendar..
15:38 cait2 the information in the wiki is very scattered there
15:38 cait2 maybe
15:38 cait2 but ithink the calendar covered that?
15:38 Joubu if we get no answer, we can forget about it :D
15:38 ashimema it was very much a first go.. I'd love to see us do it again next year.. but with more planning and more officially
15:38 cait2 i tihnk Rest API
15:38 cait2 need to get at least some links on the official pages
15:38 Joubu on which topics you need more tech info/examples?
15:37 cait2 it was on social media, but harder to find there
15:37 Joubu maybe we should ask the dev list?
15:37 cait2 it would be nice to see these kinds of things also linked to the website somehow
15:37 ashimema perhaps we could do a series similar to it.. but with a clearer timetable that commits us to writing stuff.. but not all at once
15:37 cait2 it was still very worthwhile
15:37 cait2 once i get a bit more free time i could try to do some wiki weeding at least
15:36 ashimema I liked the advent calendar.. but I feel we took on too much too late with that
15:36 cait2 i proposed a fresh start a whlie ago
15:36 Joubu rm wiki; mkdir wiki
15:36 Joubu yes, that's a big one, and we don't really know where to start
15:36 cait2 I think there was some discussion about how to use a different tool than the wiki maybe
15:36 * ashimema just has too many projects on..
15:35 Joubu (we knew that already)
15:35 Joubu I think that's the conclusion
15:35 Joubu devs don't want to write documentation
15:35 Joubu this is.. stuck
15:35 Joubu #topic Developer handbook and documentation
15:35 ashimema :)
15:35 Joubu (At least I am waiting for him)
15:35 Joubu waiting for dcook
15:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27557 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add the ability to display the error that caused a 500
15:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27556 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve error pages
15:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Use psgi_env from errors/* controller scripts
15:34 Joubu see bug 27555, bug 27556 and bug 27557
15:34 Joubu we need to make it pretty now
15:34 Joubu it's almost done :)
15:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26048 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to master , PSGI Koha does not use custom ErrorDocument pages
15:34 Joubu see bug 26048
15:34 cait2 should we mark it in the reaodmap?
15:34 Joubu (and that's awesome)
15:34 Joubu that's done
15:34 Joubu #topic Handling of errors 500
15:34 cait2 i think that sums it up
15:33 Joubu waiting for tcohen to write more things to test!
15:33 Joubu it's ongoing, a bit slow right now but the first step has been pushed already
15:33 cait2 there are curently no patches to test for this one I am aware of
15:33 Joubu tcohen: around?
15:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24403 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [OMNIBUS] OpacHiddenItems should hide items everywhere in the OPAC
15:33 Joubu #topic Fix OPACHiddenItems [Bug 24403]
15:33 ashimema ah yes.. so you did
15:32 cait2 but some are moving, that's nice :)
15:32 Joubu (I did CC you ashimema! :D)
15:32 ashimema soooo many projects on the go
15:32 cait2 i guess it would be appreciated
15:32 ashimema :)
15:32 Joubu I sent him a ping
15:32 ashimema that's kinda what I meant.. take a look, see if he needs a hand
15:31 ashimema I Josef aware and looking at fixes..?
15:31 Joubu but you can fix if you don't want to wait for Josef :)
15:31 Joubu ashimema: I FQAed it last week
15:31 ashimema +1
15:31 Joubu more info coming in the next weeks certainly
15:31 ashimema I'll try to get to look at the current submission again soon
15:31 Joubu like we should rename this, from "news" to.. "additional contents"?
15:30 cait2 #info we discussed the different uses cases and probably a new naming scheme for the future, but moving forward with the move to the Koha namespace first
15:30 Joubu the idea is to start with what is submitted yet, then improve a bit more the UI
15:30 Joubu There are some (private) discussions, we are in a FQA state for now
15:30 cait2 sec
15:30 Joubu #topic Improve our "news" module
15:30 Joubu (must be updated every night, I am in touch with rangi)
15:29 Joubu I haven't communicated on it yet as the DB is still not updated
15:29 cait2 ok
15:29 Joubu I will and it will be done
15:29 cait2 shoudl we add it to the wiki page yet?
15:29 ashimema nice
15:29 Joubu to tell us if it's up-to-date or not
15:29 Joubu I've added few commits, like the "Latest patch from" date on https://splitter2.koha-community.org/files
15:28 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:28 tuxayo confetti!
15:28 cait2 #link https://splitter2.koha-community.org
15:28 ashimema ah yes
15:28 ashimema #info Splitter backup is now available at https://splitter2.koha-community.org
15:28 Joubu still need to sync the DB from the original server however
15:28 Joubu https://splitter2.koha-community.org
15:28 cait2 awesome :)
15:28 ashimema :)
15:28 ashimema brill
15:28 Joubu we have it!
15:28 Joubu #topic Backup splitter on a separate server
15:28 Joubu ashimema and me, we need to focus on that one, maybe closer from the release, like April
15:27 Joubu #topic Release tools improvements
15:27 ashimema :)
15:27 Joubu certainly in March
15:27 Joubu I need to start this one! I am really excited about it
15:27 tuxayo lol
15:26 cait2 don't kill the laptop
15:26 Joubu #topic Git repository shrinking
15:26 ashimema stick it in a fridge
15:26 Joubu I bought a new CPU fan, so can continue the benchmark, but I am a bit hesitant :D
15:26 Joubu it almost burn my laptop everytime I run the benchmark
15:26 ashimema Joubu++
15:26 cait2 thx for doing the stats, it's really interesting
15:25 ashimema #info First major identification lead to the backgrounding of the ES indexer bug.. work ongoing :)
15:25 Joubu I need to redo some benchmarks and see if it lower the difference in exec time
15:25 ashimema :)
15:25 Joubu It's related to using the task queue for ES reindex
15:25 ashimema ?
15:25 Joubu #topic Performance investigation
15:24 Joubu #toic
15:24 ashimema thanks Joubu :)
15:24 ashimema #info Phase two will remove the last remaining cases where the C4 methods are used and drop those methods.
15:24 Joubu will be mostly off the week after, so... you know what to do
15:24 cait2 #info cait to check the old transfer bugs to give the new work some serious testing once pushed
15:24 Joubu I can try and review it next week
15:24 ashimema #info Phase one adds all the methods we need for transfers to the Koha:: namespace, with clear uses and workflows for each
15:23 ashimema #info Looking for someone to QA the final bug on that tree which adds a nice 'Transfers to send' report.
15:23 Joubu queue*
15:23 Joubu There is a huge pile of things that is hitting my QA
15:23 ashimema #info Joonas has QA'd the Phase One tree :)
15:22 Joubu ashimema: ?
15:22 Joubu #topic Improve the reliability of transfers
15:22 Joubu #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_roadmap
15:22 Joubu #topic Status of roadmap projects
15:22 Joubu can try
15:21 cait2 not going through all of them
15:21 * fridolin nothing special
15:21 cait2 i think maybe we could do some quick ones for the ones that have people present?
15:21 ashimema he should get extra points..
15:21 fridolin #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France
15:21 Joubu I will try to prepare it for the next dev meeting, asking the different groups where they are
15:21 cait2 yes, kohaputti++ definitely worth a shoutout
15:21 ashimema kohaputti++ # not shying away from the bigger scary QA's
15:20 Joubu cait2 added a new entry on the agenda, "Status of roadmap projects"
15:20 cait2 you can band up on me, I really don't mind :)
15:20 ashimema someone help me kick her off ;)
15:20 ashimema as ever, cait2 has set us a challenging target to try and knock her off the top spot
15:20 cait2 Numbers are a little too high for my liking in the queue right now and we have some things from last year still waiting
15:20 Joubu #info Please do QA!
15:20 cait2 Please do QA! :)
15:19 cait2 Not much special for QA I think
15:19 tuxayo 19.11: Not much, catching up with the flow of patches resulting from the Catalyst academy :D
15:19 Joubu #topic Updates from the QA team
15:18 Joubu nothing special?
15:18 wahanui it has been said that rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo
15:18 Joubu rmaints?
15:18 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
15:17 ashimema thd.. not yet ;)
15:17 Joubu other questions?
15:17 Joubu yes, 1 file should ineherit, and overwrite things. But then it get more complex :)
15:17 ashimema +1
15:17 Joubu ashimema: let's discuss this after the meeting
15:17 ashimema lets move on
15:17 ashimema anywho.. I digress ;)
15:16 ashimema you shouldn't then have to list it in various places for it to actually ever get called
15:16 ashimema adding a job type should be as simple as adding a class file to me..
15:16 ashimema I don't like right now that we have to change lots of files to list the jobs
15:16 thd Is there a means to sequence separate worker index processes?
15:16 ashimema that's my very first step at looking at the background jobs code more clearly
15:15 ashimema I did add a bug to clarify the warning on the about page for the message broker
15:15 ashimema but will certainly try to make some time for this one too
15:15 cait2 that's a general problem :)
15:15 * ashimema has soooooo many projects on the go right now..
15:15 Joubu I am joining you if you want to improve it :)
15:14 ashimema anywho.. it's a great way to go.. just needs a little more ;)
15:14 ashimema so those are the questions I'm asking and reasons I'm asking them ;)
15:14 ashimema exactly..
15:14 ashimema and thus have the second run replace the first with older data
15:13 ashimema if we send it along in the job.. then you could have them run out of order
15:13 Joubu and we absolutely need to async this task
15:13 ashimema do we send the record data changes with our call to ES.. or do we lookup the latest version from the DB with each run?
15:13 Joubu I am not saying that's the perfect way of doing it, but it's the easiest for now
15:13 ashimema but..
15:13 ashimema it's processed twice.. that's fine
15:13 tcohen we need some sort of precedence, right?
15:13 ashimema I feel like we need one worker dedicated to the task.. then it can get through the queue without interuption from other jobs.. and also make sure they index runs are done in order
15:12 Joubu it's processed twice
15:12 ashimema if we pass two with overlapping record ids what happens?
15:12 ashimema we pass a 'bulk' call to the indexer
15:12 Joubu ashimema: you volunteered and I will be happy to test :)
15:12 ashimema also.. can our ES implementation cope with running multiple indexing simultaneously ;)
15:11 Joubu I had a hard time getting it pushed, it's always hard for me to get back to things I need to pull strongly
15:11 Joubu And I understand your point ;)
15:11 ashimema indeed
15:11 Joubu if you have 3 workers and 3 big things are running, yes, it will be delayed
15:10 * ashimema also wants 'delays' in the job queue system.. but that's another track entirely.
15:10 Joubu ashimema: but you can have several workers
15:10 ashimema ;)
15:10 ashimema except.. currently there's no way to specify what jobs a worker can take on
15:10 Joubu that's a sysop job
15:10 Joubu ashimema: then you need several workers
15:10 ashimema indexing jobs need their own worker in my opinion
15:10 cait2 some kind of prioritizing maybe?
15:09 ashimema I'm sold on 27344, but I feel strongly that we need to ensure that indexing doesn't get stuck behind long running batch jobs
15:09 Joubu it-IT answered yes, so far
15:09 Joubu ha, and I am contacting "people" to get their go on removing the installer files for translated languages
15:09 ashimema I'd like to see some improvements to the task queue system prior to bug 27344..
15:08 Joubu that's moving behind the scene, check the pad regularly to know what's happening
15:08 tuxayo https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_roadmap
15:08 Joubu There are also things from the roadmap btw
15:08 ashimema I've commented on many, but it would be great to get more eyes on them.
15:08 tcohen reading
15:07 Joubu that's all for me, any questions?
15:07 ashimema all interesting work.. all things I have on my list to work through :)
15:07 cait2 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
15:07 Joubu #info be involved on 25078, 27526, 27467 and 27344 (please)
15:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27344 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Implement Elastic's update_index_background using Koha::BackgroundJob
15:07 Joubu Bug 27344 - Rely on RabbitMQ to schedule the record indexation (ES). That will speed up several workflows (see 27341). If we don't go with RabbitMQ we have to write an async solution anyway.
15:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27467 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Provide a static URL for tables
15:06 Joubu Bug 27467 - To add the ability to share a "datatable view" with an URL.
15:06 Joubu It's only a first step, it needs to be tested carefully to let us apply it to other places where items are created/modified. Please test!
15:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27526 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Remove Mod/AddItemFromMarc from additem.pl
15:06 Joubu Bug 27526 - Start removing MARC from our items form.
15:06 Joubu There is still a lot of work to do but we need first to agree on *how* that must be implemented.
15:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Gracefully stop updatedatabase/installer when a database change cannot be applied
15:05 Joubu Bug 25078 - Rebuild the way our upgrade process is done. See comment 17 for screenshots.
15:05 Joubu Then I'd like to highlight some patches I wrote in the last couple of weeks that need to be discussion/feedback/testing:
15:05 Joubu and I forgot the 3rd one
15:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26048 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to master , PSGI Koha does not use custom ErrorDocument pages
15:04 Joubu This is a quite big change, the SQL requests that are exploding will not longer explode silently. With bug 26048, a nice 500 will be displayed to the end user (only if not running a dev install).
15:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , RaiseError must be set for the UI
15:04 Joubu 2. Bug 25026 is turning on RaiseError on the DB handler
15:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Slowness in receiving in acquisitions
15:04 Joubu 1. Bug 20212 is adding all the DataTables features (we implement so far) on the parcel page
15:04 Joubu we push some interesting things lately
15:04 Joubu #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05)
15:04 tcohen nope
15:03 khall_ #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions
15:03 Joubu Anyone have something?
15:03 Joubu #topic Announcements
15:03 Joubu I have ton of things to tell you
15:02 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France
15:02 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_10_February_2021
15:02 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
15:01 kidclamp info Nick Clemens, ByWaterSolutions
15:01 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
15:01 wahanui rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo
15:01 Joubu rmaints?
15:01 wahanui rumour has it qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo
15:01 Joubu qa_team?
15:01 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK
15:01 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart
15:01 Joubu #topic Introductions
15:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_10_february_2021'
15:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
15:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Feb 10 15:01:04 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:01 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 10 February 2021
15:00 Joubu Track suggestion for this dev meeting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc9DjDtrYKk
14:59 Joubu yes, be ready, it's coming
14:59 ashimema not sure I'll make it.. gotta do some homeschooling
14:59 ashimema dev meeting
14:59 ashimema oops
14:41 cait2 caroline++
14:40 Joubu tcohen: forget that for now
14:38 cait2 oleonard: yep, 22 now :)
14:37 cait2 Joubu++ thx
14:37 Joubu hum I don't recreate on master
14:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, Error 500 when mailing list
14:33 Joubu tcohen: see bug 27662
14:33 oleonard dev meeting in 30 minutes? I will probably be late because I have a conflict.
14:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Replace YAML with YAML::XS
14:32 Joubu khall_: bug 27673
14:30 wahanui magnuse: I forgot this one
14:30 magnuse wahanui: forget this one
14:26 wahanui somebody said this one was big enough as is
14:26 cait2 this one
14:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, Error 500 when mailing list
14:26 cait2 bug 27662
14:26 cait2 not that one...
14:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27665 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Clarify usage of matching dropdown on addorderiso2709.pl
14:26 cait2 as we already had soem YAML discussion going on, can someone help me with bug 27665?
14:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27671 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Missing include in orderreceive.tt
14:23 Joubu kidclamp: can you SO bug 27671 please?
14:13 nlegrand kidclamp: thanks
14:10 magnuse yeah, that sounds likely. i saw it, but thought it wasn't relevant at first...
14:09 magnuse ah, maybe
14:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27655 minor, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Pushed to master , Barcode column is missing from "Holds to pull" table preferences yaml file
14:09 oleonard Bug 27655? :)
14:09 magnuse oleonard: no, that sounds different
14:08 magnuse oh and the links like "Jump to: view_holdsqueue | returns | overdues | holds | holdsratios | holds_awaiting_pickup | circulation" are not always in the same order
14:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27538 trivial, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Pushed to oldstable , Cells in the bottom filtering row of the "Holds to pull" table shifted
14:08 oleonard Bug 27538?
14:07 oleonard I think there is a bug for that already...
14:06 magnuse hm, on 20.05.06 there seems to be a mismatch between the settings on admin/columns_settings.pl and what is displayed in the "holds to pull" table. i check the box to make call_numbers hidden by default. but the column that goes away is the barcodes column. anyone else seeing that?
14:06 khall_ Joubu I have not, thanks!
14:05 Joubu khall_: I can write the /YAML/YAML::XS/ patch if you haven't started yet
13:57 kidclamp https://github.com/kidclamp/koha-plugin-simple-search/blob/master/Koha/Plugin/Com/ByWaterSolutions/SimpleSearch/Controller.pm
13:57 kidclamp https://github.com/kidclamp/koha-plugin-simple-search
13:56 nlegrand kidclamp: Thanks! What's an API route ? I was thinking something like an apache alias. But I wanted to check if there were Dos and Don'ts on the subject or a WIP.
13:55 kidclamp ScriptAlias /coverflow.pl "/path/to/plugins/Koha/Plugin/Com/ByWaterSolutions/CoverFlow/coverflow.pl"
13:54 kidclamp or you add an apache alias to the script, like coverflow used to do
13:53 kidclamp nlegrand: you could add an API route
13:53 Joubu yes, definitely
13:52 oleonard I think that's going to work. Thanks!
13:52 kidclamp maybejust required_hash.$field
13:51 oleonard Mmm... hash.
13:50 kidclamp [% SET required_hash.${field} = 'required' %]
13:50 kidclamp what about a hash?
13:50 oleonard That was the idea
13:50 kidclamp oleonard: so if not required it is blank?
13:48 oleonard I couldn't make it work
13:48 Joubu oleonard: yes, that's the kind of examples where it is useful :)
13:48 nlegrand *useful
13:47 nlegrand I have other needs (like stack requests) where a plugins/run.pl would be usefull on the opac side, this time with identification.
13:46 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: An idea for efficiently setting classes for form elements which are required" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27811
13:45 nlegrand I'd like it to be launch from opac without being identified.
13:45 oleonard Ah! Duh. Thank you Joubu
13:45 Joubu only attributes that are set at least once are displayed
13:44 nlegrand Joubu: for example, I wrote a plugin that do exactly what opac-search.pl do when launch with format=rrs2 (https://catalogue.bulac.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=coucou&count=50&sort_by=acqdate_dsc&format=rss2) the main idea is to custumize the XML without touching sources.
13:44 Joubu oleonard: if it's empty it's not there
13:44 oleonard The fields show up in the item edit form
13:44 Joubu this one better
13:44 Joubu https://snipboard.io/5BNUYG.jpg
13:44 oleonard Why am I not??
13:43 Joubu I am seeing them there
13:43 Joubu oleonard: https://snipboard.io/rAnDJP.jpg
13:43 Joubu oleonard: about your previous question. Which screen?
13:41 Joubu nlegrand: Salut! What do you want to do?
13:41 nlegrand Is there work on an opac equivalent of plugins/run.pl ?
13:39 nlegrand Salut #koha
13:33 ashimema :)
13:32 oleonard Joubu: If I can make it work I'll run it by you
13:29 Joubu but most of the time it's not a good idea
13:28 Joubu [% $var_1 %]
13:28 Joubu [% SET var_1 = var_name _ '_1' %]
13:28 Joubu the answer is in $
13:28 Joubu :D
13:28 oleonard I knew you would say that Joubu
13:28 Joubu what are you trying to do?
13:28 Joubu that smells oleonard :D
13:26 kidclamp [% SET ${variable _ "string"} = "value" %]
13:26 * oleonard sprinkles curlies around to see what sticks
13:26 kidclamp is it curlies maybe?
13:26 ashimema not sure
13:25 ashimema humm..
13:25 ashimema then [% SET $variable_concat = "value" %]
13:25 ashimema [% SET variable_concat = $variable _ 'String' %]
13:24 ashimema perhaps over two lines?
13:24 ashimema not sure
13:24 ashimema ooh..
13:24 ashimema you mean setting a variable name as a concatenated string
13:24 ashimema oh..
13:22 ashimema er.. I think I've done that somewhere
13:21 oleonard (I know I can't do it that way, that explodes)
13:21 oleonard Can you concatenate a variable and a string in T:T to create a new variable? [% SET $variable _ "string" = "value" %] ?
13:06 ashimema but it's perfectly workable already :)
13:06 ashimema it's a proof of concept at this point..
13:06 ashimema would love some feedback for that one
13:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14233 enhancement, P4, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Add logging support to notices and slips management
13:05 * ashimema would love to see that for bug 14233
13:05 ashimema that is actually really cool
13:04 ashimema it does for OPACUserJS
13:04 ashimema oooh
13:04 ashimema like opacheader
13:04 ashimema I'd love to see it do a 'diff' view for the more complex prefs..
13:03 ashimema just not super obvious how it works
13:03 oleonard Currently, although I think there have been some suggestions for others
13:03 ashimema it's pretty cool actually
13:03 ashimema does it only work for sysprefs?
13:02 oleonard I made that
13:02 ashimema interesting
13:02 ashimema so you can see a history as it were
13:02 ashimema it filters all all actions tacken against that system preference
13:01 ashimema aha.. I see
13:01 ashimema hmm
12:59 * ashimema thinks it's broken
12:59 ashimema anyone know what the 'compare' tickbox next to some action logs is meant to do?
12:40 ashimema pass
12:31 oleonard Anyone know why public note and non-public note don't appear in the table of item information in batch modification?
12:31 oleonard ashimema: Bugzilla spam
12:26 ashimema ?
12:16 magnuse oleonard: perfect timing, then!
12:08 oleonard It's funny, I was just wondering how the gig economy works
12:01 oleonard Hi all
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11:31 ashimema should at least make filtering the view log simpler
11:31 * ashimema is working on 14233 kohaputti
10:51 ashimema [off] I think turning off some of the tt features to start with is a good first step.. EVAL is just bad
10:50 ashimema test plans added to the patches
10:49 Joubu on this bug I am suggesting to move it to the admin area
10:48 kohaputti gotta be careful who to give edit_notices priveleges in koha
10:48 ashimema I've been meaning to write a patch for that
10:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26663 is not accessible.
10:47 Joubu [off] bug 26663
10:46 kohaputti probably should report to koha security bugs, seems like a big problem now that I think of it
10:44 kohaputti I also wonder if using template toolkit syntax is a good idea at all for notice templates with regards of security
10:41 kohaputti I have no solutions right now but I will try to come up with some
10:38 ashimema but I am open to suggestions
10:38 ashimema especially with most of them not having tests
10:38 ashimema what I was really keen to do was draw a line and not have loads of extra randomly named variables still available forever..
10:37 ashimema I tried pretty hard, but just couldn't seem to fixup the existing notices reliably enough :(
10:37 ashimema do feel free to take on the DB update I tried first..
10:36 kohaputti ashimema, not super sure, I hope we could still find some way to not make this a breaking change
10:34 ashimema why is everything so hard aye
10:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14233 enhancement, P4, ---, indradg, NEW , Add logging support to notices and slips management
10:34 ashimema kohaputti, do you think bug 14233 needs to come first?
10:33 ashimema nice one Joubu :)
10:33 Joubu It works better than a stick
10:33 * Joubu hands a RJ45 cable
10:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , RaiseError must be set for the UI
10:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27669 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , reverting and importing status never set when importing/reverting a batch
10:32 Joubu bug 27669, first catch from bug 25026! \o/
10:31 ashimema I agree.. wasn't expecting an SO from Kyle so quick.. it was meant as a proof of concept for some feedback
10:30 kohaputti ashimema, the backing up of the old CREDIT and DEBIT templates don't seem quite polished, I'm 99% many many libraries will need to get their old version after the upgrade in order to not have to spend hours on how the old template was. And currently if I go to /cgi-bin/koha/tools/viewlog.pl after applying the patches I cannot find the old templates unless selecting all modules and all actions
10:28 ashimema I'll quickly look at adding a clearer one now
10:28 * ashimema beats himself with a stick
10:28 ashimema kohaputti, I'm sorry I'm so terrible at test plans...
10:09 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:09 Joubu @later tell dcook did you contact Mason since you are in the packaging team? Are there any plans?
09:47 kohaputti I'm testing it right now but would be great to get your overview as the author on what things it most likely breaks
09:47 ashimema meeting, brb
09:47 ashimema :)
09:47 kohaputti ok, the one I just commented on
09:46 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26734 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Convert accounts (monetary) notices to use GetPreparedLetter
09:46 ashimema bug 26734
09:46 ashimema Yes.. well.. actually it'll be resolved by the bug two down that tree that was blocking
09:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24381 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, BLOCKED , ACCOUNT_CREDIT and ACCOUNT_DEBIT slip not printing information about paid fines/fees
09:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13961 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, emmi.takkinen, Needs Signoff , Option to include patron's total amount of fines in notices
09:45 kohaputti ashimema, any idea if bug 13961 would be resolved by bug 24381 ?
09:15 cait1 hi Oak :)
08:55 Oak Hi cait1
08:55 Oak \o/
08:55 Oak magnuse
08:53 magnuse Oak
08:19 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:19 ashimema @later tell dcook they share a db container though from memory.. there are config tweaks to setup a smaller koha_net network of containers
08:18 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:18 ashimema @later tell dcook the sandboxes do indeed use k-t-d behind the scenes
08:16 cait1 good morning ashimema and #koha
08:07 ashimema Good Morning #koha
07:38 wahanui what's up, alex_a
07:38 alex_a Bonjour
07:33 wahanui hola, reiveune
07:33 reiveune hello
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02:02 oleonard-away Anyone know why public note and non-public note don't appear in the table of item information in batch modification?