Time  Nick          Message
21:39 cait          messages-js hsoudl have the js ones actually... and messages hte ones using the new syntax from tt... i thought
21:39 cait          now you got me
21:39 cait          huh
21:37 caroline      and what is the difference between messages and messages-js?
21:37 cait          when they were in the tt
21:36 cait          staff-prog was what they came from
21:36 cait          because all the javascript ones go into messages
21:35 caroline      just wondering why it went into messages.po rather than staff-prog.po
21:34 caroline      It looks like a regular string that could be in staff-prog.po
21:34 caroline      http://paste.koha-community.org/27739
21:33 caroline      I was looking at this example
21:31 cait          hehe
21:31 cait          :)
21:31 cait          i thought it would make a nice follow-up in qa
21:31 cait          a lot of these were moved 1:1 - but could use plural/singular
21:31 caroline      I already blamed you and Jane Wagner... might as well blame oleonard too while I'm at it ;)
21:31 cait          a ton of the new ones are moving the strings out of  templates into js, they go there
21:31 cait          i thin you got to blame oloenard :)
21:30 cait          and you don't have to do the singular/pluarals
21:30 cait          it's optional
21:30 cait          i tihnk there is a way to write these without giving context
21:29 caroline      maybe I should wait for Joubu to be around to ask that
21:28 caroline      why are some strings without context or plurals in messages.po? what makes strings go in that one rather than staff-prog or opac-bootstrap?
21:01 caroline      I tried to work on the cookbook last night, but I didn't have much success
21:00 caroline      yes of course
21:00 cait          translting will happen again when you branch, just merge before oyu brnach heh
21:00 cait          :)
21:00 cait          it's ok, just excited
20:59 caroline      do you need them merged to translate?
20:57 caroline      it's somewhere in my todo list
20:57 cait          caroline: when are you merging my docs patches? :)
20:56 cait          and  noone ever questioned it
20:56 cait          it might have been taken from a template from a library or so
20:56 caroline      same
20:56 cait          i would suggest we remove it
20:56 caroline      because it's only present in the HOLD_PRINT notice
20:56 caroline      my hypothesis though is that it was a request to change from print to email maybe?
20:55 oleonard-away That would have been a LONG time ago
20:55 cait          kptfs - the US one
20:55 caroline      ... seems to be from a Jane Wagner... not sure who that is
20:48 caroline      ok i'll try that
20:48 cait          and do the git blame again
20:48 cait          jump to that commit
20:47 caroline      yeah, I'm not good enough with git
20:47 cait          oyuneed to go further back
20:47 caroline      its capitalization
20:47 cait          only fixed capitalization there
20:46 caroline      dc2c19bd515
20:46 wahanui       which commit are you trying to remove?
20:46 cait          which commit?
20:46 cait          heh not true :)
20:46 caroline      OMG LOL! git blame says Katrin Fischer XD
20:45 cait          or we could just kick it out of the template
20:45 cait          maybe :)
20:44 caroline      I wonder if I can git blame and find the person who added that line
20:44 caroline      :)
20:44 caroline      i'm kinda glad I'm not the only one who doesn't understand
20:44 cait          not very helpful  - just showing you are not alone :)
20:44 caroline      thanks cait
20:43 cait          caroline: i asked the same recently and noone could explain
20:12 caroline      What does "Change service requested" mean in the HOLD sample notice?
20:05 * cait        waves
19:32 tcohen        oleonard-away: you are using an arrayref, things listed there are OR-ed. It feels like you want a big hash instead
19:11 oleonard      It worked with "like" but I guess I don't know the right syntax to add it as an exact search http://paste.koha-community.org/27737
19:08 oleonard      I've been hitting this with a rock but it still doesn't want to search by uploadcategorycode: https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=Koha/UploadedFiles.pm;h=2f44e974c84714674de5c6d959908def20ee21c3;hb=HEAD#l153
19:06 oleonard      It can wait if you're busy. Need some Perl help.
19:05 tcohen        sort of
18:50 oleonard      tcohen: still around?
18:22 cait          :)
18:12 tcohen        or Haskell
18:12 tcohen        ashimema: Rust
17:58 cait          or whitespace... or how thatis called
17:58 cait          ashimema: just don't use Blank
17:06 ashimema      lol.. or perhaps Velato.. that looks a cool language
17:04 ashimema      Java.. even
17:04 ashimema      it's been one of those days.. I think I best clock off too before I start re-writing Koha in Jaa
17:02 ashimema      lol
16:51 * oleonard    checks the dugout for cait2, cait3, and cait4
16:49 cait1         maybe back online later too
16:47 cait1         i was about to leave and cook dinner
16:47 cait1         to it
16:47 cait1         let's talk tomorrow maybe about some prio bugs? i don't want you to rebase and me not getting to tit
16:47 cait1         most likely
16:46 ashimema      I'd love to see them progress.. but I think you were the one it was waiting on.
16:46 cait1         ame for me :( although i'd still like to have it a lot
16:46 ashimema      matts was asking about them.. but they've basically dropped off my radar now
16:46 ashimema      I was going to ask if you still intended to get back to the accounts notices bugs..
16:46 wahanui       what's up, cait1
16:46 cait1         hi
16:46 ashimema      hello
16:44 * cait1       expects him to pop out of her mirror
16:44 cait1         ashimema ashimema ashimema
16:44 cait1         huh?
16:14 * oleonard    looks at his regexp-related search history and quickly bows out
16:13 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27597 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Searching "kw:term" does not work with Elasticsearch
16:13 fridolin      Bug 27597 for a good regexp expert :)
16:12 ashimema      cait, cait1, cait2
16:12 ashimema      cait still around?
15:58 reiveune      bye
15:43 Joubu         if*
15:43 Joubu         it would be part of the query is an option is selected, but without like (with exact)
15:38 oleonard      Would you then take out the "like" stuff?
15:37 Joubu         oleonard: why not a select with the different categories?
15:35 pastebot      "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is this dumb?" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27737
15:27 Joubu         it's quite hidden so far
15:27 Joubu         and it will "show" the permanent/temporary feature
15:26 Joubu         yes, definitely
15:26 oleonard      A default wouldn't be a bad idea since it would eliminate the step of creating the UPLOAD category itself.
15:25 oleonard      I guess we could add it as a default, or we could just direct the user to do so
15:24 Joubu         are you going to add a specific category for audio?
15:24 oleonard      Joubu: I have confirmed that it's possible, following kidclamp's description
15:23 oleonard      Joubu: I'm chipping away at it. Next I'm wondering if you can search uploads by category
15:23 Joubu         cait1: Bernardo worked on the translation server today. The restart has been removed from the crontab. We will see this night/tomorrow how it behaves
15:21 Joubu         are you still trying to make the upload feature works with the audio alerts?
15:20 Joubu         so it's either linked to a AV and then it will be considered "permanent" and kept, or it will marked as temporary and removed when the cronjob will be run
15:19 Joubu         ha!
15:18 oleonard      68                 <div class="hint">Note: No upload categories are defined. Add values to the UPLOAD authorized value category otherwise all uploads will be marked as temporary.</div>
15:18 oleonard      It's in the code Joubu!
15:17 Joubu         so the question for me is more "how to add a permanent upload?"
15:17 Joubu         and the directory used to store the files is /var/lib/koha/kohadev/tmp/koha_kohadev_upload
15:17 Joubu         oleonard: actually, when I use tools/upload.pl the permanent flag in DB is 0
15:17 oleonard      :P
15:16 Joubu         obvious
15:16 Joubu         294         permanent => $self->{temporary}? 0: 1,
15:16 Joubu         it's in the code oleonard!
15:15 oleonard      What would be the use-case for uploading a temporary file via the upload tool?
15:15 oleonard      Okay, follow-up question... :)
15:14 tcohen        you upload a marc file, you cancel the first import step
15:11 oleonard      What is the purpose of a temporary upload?
15:10 oleonard      No not that one huginn, it was a joke.
15:10 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2020 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, search.pl chokes on searches with "+and+" in the url
15:10 oleonard      You're thinking of Bug 2020: "Remove all that is normal"
15:08 Joubu         lol, NORMARC
15:08 Joubu         the NORMAL removal has a nice diff as well  55 files changed, 58 insertions(+), 13282 deletions(-) :D
15:06 oleonard      Cool Joubu, thanks!
15:05 Joubu         22 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 1615 deletions(-)
15:05 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20410 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove OpacGroupResults system preference and feature
15:05 Joubu         bug 20410
14:55 geor          thanks, Joubu .finally it was a plugin that caused i
14:49 tcohen        I just noticed its existence
14:47 oleonard-away tcohen were you trying to summon me?
14:44 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18984 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove support for NORMARC
14:44 Joubu         magnuse: any chances to get a SO from you on bug 18984?
14:42 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26471 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Datatables js error on missing pdfmake.min.js.map
14:42 tcohen        bug 26471
14:37 Joubu         geor: you should try to extend Apache's timeout value
14:37 tcohen        right, that's my understanding
14:36 Joubu         (that's the theory)
14:36 Joubu         *should* only be used for output
14:36 Joubu         hum, shouldn't be
14:34 tcohen        is it still true that changing dateformat is dangerous?
13:55 ashimema      http://irc.koha-community.org/out.pl?channel=koha;date=2021-01-22 was our conversation for reference
13:54 AndrewFH      thanks @ashimema!
13:53 geor          good day, i am having problems, i copy here part of the log. this happened to someone, we were not doing anything special. this is [proxy_http:error] [pid 6667] (70007)The timeout specified has expired: [client 104.197.122.43:58706] AH01102: error reading status line from remote server httpd-UDS:0. thank you very much for your help!
13:52 ashimema      looks like I didn't add a linked bug though :(
13:52 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25552 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Add missing Claims Returned option to MarkLostItemsAsReturned
13:52 ashimema      I detailed my findings in the POD on bug 25552 AndrewFH
13:47 oleonard      :)
13:46 * AndrewFH    appreciates the chance to be right about something first thing in the morning
13:45 oleonard      Thanks AndrewFH you're right, cleanup_database can delete temp uploads
13:40 AndrewFH      no worries! I'm meeting with the other BWS trainers this morning to play around with that, figure out how best to deal with it in the meantime. I can file a bug based on our conversation and testing. I'll CC you on it, if you like
13:39 ashimema      not sure I remember the bug
13:39 ashimema      I remember the conversation..
13:38 ashimema      humm
13:37 wahanui       i already had it that way, huginn.
13:37 huginn        AndrewFH: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
13:37 AndrewFH      @ashimema do you remember the terrible truth you spoke the other day about Claims Returned and how it doesn't prevent overdues from generating if one does not charge the lost fee? Did you file a bug for that?
13:36 AndrewFH      I think cleanup_database can delete temporary files based on that flag?
13:35 oleonard      kidclamp do you know? ^^
13:23 oleonard      When uploads are "marked as temporary," does that have any actual consequences? In what way are they temporary?
12:38 kidclamp      Yup
12:37 oleonard      kidclamp: Oh so the link is the opac-retrieve-file.pl link
12:36 ashimema      all caits
12:35 * cait1       wonders if cait1 cait and cait2 are the same person after all :)
12:35 cait1         sure
12:35 Russ          Thanks cait1
12:35 cait1         that sounds about right
12:35 cait1         yep
12:35 Russ          okay can i replace the path with /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Illbackends/FreeForm (that's were i symlinked the files)
12:35 cait1         as that part can vary depending on how koha was installed, we can't easily put the right thing there
12:34 cait1         not meant to be copied
12:34 cait1         __PERL_MODULE_DIR__ is only a placeholder for something local
12:34 cait1         but you need to make sure the backend_directory has a real path
12:33 cait1         ok
12:33 Russ          the koha-conf.xml i have edited is in /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
12:32 cait1         if you have a package install, i think it will probably be in /etc/koha/sites...
12:31 cait1         that's probably the "template" one
12:31 cait1         yeah I think oleonard is right
12:31 oleonard      Russ: I would guess there is another koha-conf.xml
12:30 cait1         saying: that's not a valid path
12:30 cait1         Russ: either thew rong file or you need to replace the PERL_MODULE_DIR bit
12:29 Russ          cait1: okay i will restart everything and check again.
12:28 Russ          oleonard thats the path in the koha-conf.xml  <backend_directory>__PERL_MODULE_DIR__/Koha/Illbackends</backend_directory>
12:28 oleonard      Thanks kidclamp I'll give it a try
12:27 kidclamp      oleonard: if you make the file accessible you should be able to get a URL, it's ugly, but the hash plus the filename, attach It to a bib to see the pattern, then you should be able to use that url for the sound
12:25 cait1         it woudl also be good to know which patch you put into the koha-conf.xml, where you have the repo and if it's in the directory directly or symlinked to it
12:25 cait1         all the things = plack, memcached
12:25 cait1         Russ: did you restart all the things after making your changes?
12:24 cait1         oleonard: try to catch kidclamp - he said it already works, so he might be able to tell how they do it for their partners?
12:24 * cait1       waves
12:23 oleonard      Russ does the location where you cloned the FreeForm module match the path defined in koha-conf.xml ?
12:23 Russ          I followed the instructions from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_backends and https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha-ill-freeform
12:22 Russ          i do not know where i went wrong
12:21 Russ          I do not where i went wrong
12:21 Russ          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_backends and https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha-ill-freeform
12:20 oleonard      Russ which instructions are you following?
12:15 Russ          Does anyboby have a way around it?
12:15 Russ          I am getting an error after installing ILL backends " Can't locate Koha/Illbackends/FreeForm/Base.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Koha::Illbackends::FreeForm::Base module)
12:14 Russ          Hello
12:09 oleonard      No no luck tying audio alerts to uploads without some work :|
12:07 Joubu         I don't think so
12:02 oleonard      Still morning for me, so I guess I'll have a coffee and can uploads be accessed via a url?
12:02 Joubu         something light as it's morning for you
12:01 Joubu         what's for you oleonard?
11:39 oleonard      Oh is Joubu bartending today?
11:39 oleonard      >   <cait1> Joubu: the usual, please?
11:38 oleonard      Hi #koha
09:15 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27454 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Additional patron attributes change sequence on every reload of edit page
09:15 * ashimema    thinks bug 27454 got forgotten
08:24 ashimema      I'm hoping I'm just missing something obvious
08:23 ashimema      but I can't see any call to update_stores to then load those updated files back into the database for pootle.
08:23 ashimema      then we run a bunch of stuff against those files..
08:23 ashimema      we run sync_stores to get the latest translations from the database to file
08:22 ashimema      the frameworks one for instance.. it feels like it's missing a step to me
08:22 ashimema      I don't entirely understand at least some of them..
08:22 * ashimema    just started to read some of the scripts called in the cron
08:21 Joubu         cait1: I've set the restart 1h earlier
08:11 ashimema      humm.. I thought he'd set a cron job for restarting apache on the translate server
08:11 ere           Hi ashimema
08:11 ashimema      Morning #koha
08:11 ashimema      Morning ere
08:10 ere           Morning! :)
07:45 reiveune      hello
07:41 wahanui       privet, alex_a
07:41 alex_a        Bonjour
07:37 magnuse       \o/
07:32 cait1         Joubu: the usual, please? ;)
07:31 cait1         good morning #koha
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