Time  Nick           Message
07:08 fridolin       hi tehre
07:08 reiveune       hello
07:08 wahanui        que tal, reiveune
07:35 ashimema       Morning
07:37 liliputech_asu morning ashimema
07:47 alex_a         Bonjour
07:47 wahanui        bidet, alex_a
07:51 Joubu          postponing yesterday's dev meeting
07:51 Joubu          #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 27 January 2021
07:51 huginn         Meeting started Thu Jan 28 07:51:52 2021 UTC.  The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
07:51 huginn         Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
07:51 huginn         The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_27_january_2021'
07:52 Joubu          #info meeting postponed
07:52 Joubu          #action amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc.
07:53 Joubu          #info Next meeting: 10 February 2021, 15 UTC
07:53 Joubu          #endmeeting
07:53 huginn         Meeting ended Thu Jan 28 07:53:09 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
07:53 huginn         Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_27_january_2021.2021-01-28-07.51.html
07:53 huginn         Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_27_january_2021.2021-01-28-07.51.txt
07:53 huginn         Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_27_january_2021.2021-01-28-07.51.log.html
08:06 hagud          morning, I have added a new facet at elasticsearch, but I am not able to add the labet at facets, anybody has an idea how to do it?
08:17 cait1          you can't do it with configuration I think, you'll have to change the templates
08:19 hagud          I guess I should edit  opac-facets.inc
08:26 hagud          threre is huge differences between indexes in zebra and elasticsearch, should I open a bug explaining didferences? for example topic facets at zebra is just 650$a but ES are 6xx... what do you advice?
08:38 cait1          i think opening a bug for improvements on elasticsearch would be good
08:38 cait1          6xx does not actually make sense
08:38 cait1          as a default as we have some other facets for other 6xx? (places?)
08:51 hagud          yes su-geo is places,... subject should be 6xx, I will do all 'required changes' I have found that authority indexes are not defined (some of them)
08:52 hagud          mistake subject should not be 6xx
08:56 cait1          i think ther eis a bug already for improving the elasticsearch defaults
09:06 magnuse        bug 15522
09:06 wahanui        hmmm... bug 15522 is the right place
09:06 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , New interface for revamped circulation rules
09:10 Joubu          cait, hagud: bug 27314
09:10 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27314 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, NEW , Update default Elastic mapping
09:10 Joubu          not much on it however
09:21 cait           but a good idea in general :)
09:21 cait           Joubu++ btw
09:21 cait           thx for looking after translate in the mornings for me
09:26 Joubu          Williamson, Catherine 12/18/1930 (90 years) Kid (C)
09:26 Joubu          lol
09:31 hagud          have you realize the select css is not working for firefox at koha 20.11
09:31 hagud          font-family rules are not applied the select dropdown options at any dropdown with firefox
09:32 Joubu          @later tell oleonard Hi Owen, waiting for your feedback on bug 27440 comment 7 and bug 27493 comment 10 :)
09:32 huginn         Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:33 Joubu          hagud: no, haven't realised that. Which rule isn't applied correctly?
09:33 Joubu          do you have the line and path of the .scss file?
09:59 hagud          In firefox select and option css rules are being not processing css rules from external fonts... I am going to open a bug at bugzilla...
10:34 tcohen         buen día
10:34 tcohen         bon dia
10:41 liliputech_asu dobre bzien tcohen
10:42 liliputech_asu bz 17314
10:42 liliputech_asu bug 17314
10:42 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17314 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Routes to create, list and delete a purchase suggestion
10:42 liliputech_asu dobre dzien
11:00 tcohen         liliputech_asu: I'll take on it today
11:00 tcohen         thanks for the reminder!
11:28 oleonard       Joubu I'll take a look
11:30 oleonard       Joubu in return can I ask you a question about Hea installation? It's telling me it can't get a database connection but I've verified the db credentials
11:54 liliputech_asu tcohen: i've did a bit of rebase :)
13:00 oleonard       Joubu: I agree on Bug 27493, have attached a followup
13:00 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27493 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Improve structure and style of checkbox columns in tables
13:21 Joubu          thx oleonard!
13:34 ashimema       thanks oleonard
13:34 ashimema       :)
14:55 ashimema       oleonard around?
14:55 ashimema       or cait
15:13 oleonard       I'm here now ashimema
15:14 ashimema       Search filters on a datatable.. i.e the ones in a column header
15:14 ashimema       with 20212 it appears they get reversed
15:15 ashimema       i.e 'Search blah blah'
15:15 ashimema       as apposed to 'Blah blah search'
15:15 ashimema       do you think that's a negative change?
15:16 ashimema       also.. any idea's why column widths might differ between an ajax datatable and a non-ajax one?
15:16 oleonard       Can you give me an example of the search filter issue?
15:17 * ashimema     sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/uAtPWCqdpqcgqnWqgnwshzQM/message.txt >
15:17 oleonard       Hm... Not like what I see on the item search table
15:18 ashimema       item search table?
15:19 oleonard       I just thought it was odd that neither of your screenshots resembled how it looks on the item search results view
15:20 * ashimema     also isn't sure why 'Order cost' wraps on the updated version of the table
15:20 ashimema       silly question.. how do I get to item search to see what you're talking about :PS
15:21 oleonard       The catalog item search, either from the header menu or the advanced search page.
15:22 ashimema       aha..
15:22 ashimema       I would say my 'before' shot looks pretty similar?
15:23 ashimema       except you have some that are dropdowns rather than pure string searches
15:24 oleonard       I don't know what to tell you ashimema, 20212 doesn't apply for me.
15:24 oleonard       https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15409892513019
15:24 ashimema       oh really
15:24 ashimema       it applied for me only minutes ago
15:24 ashimema       it has a tonne of dependencies though
15:26 ashimema       second question.. in your knowledge to librarians use the form type filter options at the top left on the acquisitions screen.. this patchset removes them
15:28 oleonard       Don't know about that, but I'm assuming there is a way to make that form act as a DataTables filter. We did that on the news page.
15:28 ashimema       as new bug perhaps.. if anyone misses them
15:34 oleonard       (IMO we should offer a full-featured sidebar filter rather than table header filters... I don't like them)
15:35 Joubu          we implemented the ajax based DTs to have column filters
15:35 Joubu          It's complicated to have 2 group of filters to filter the same table
15:35 Joubu          why don't you like them?
15:36 oleonard       I think they're awkward, and they make my job harder :)
15:37 Joubu          on 20212 for instance we are adding filters on almost all the columns
15:37 Joubu          when before we add only a few on the left
15:37 Joubu          how do they make your job harder?
15:38 oleonard       I don't have direct experience with how librarians use it, but I suspect that a keyword filter would be sufficient for most searches
15:39 oleonard       Why they make my job harder: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23565#c2
15:39 huginn         Bug 23565: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add columns configuration and export options to item search results
15:39 cait1          i don't like the search filters muche either .)
15:39 cait1          on the columns
15:39 cait1          and i'd really leave off the "search" word
15:39 cait1          altogether
15:39 cait1          the translations never fit in there and you can't read the last bit anyway *shrugs*
15:40 cait1          I thin librarians tend to miss them
15:40 cait1          and we can't offer hints as easily as in a sidebar
15:40 cait1          or a clear link
15:40 cait1          it's all a bit more narrow
15:42 ashimema       funny you should say 'leave the search off entirely' I was thinking the opposite approach.. and only putting 'search' or 'filter' in there.. as you have the column context directly above anyway.
15:44 tcohen         I attempted to leave it clear, and add an icon
15:44 tcohen         but embarrasingly failed to align it properly
15:44 tcohen         fa-search
15:45 ashimema       lol
15:47 Joubu          oleonard: we are no longer using jquery.dataTables.columnFilter.js, it's obsolete. So maybe things have changed now
15:47 oleonard       Since Bug 20212?
15:47 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Slowness in receiving in acquisitions
15:47 tcohen         on that specific table
15:47 Joubu          bug 27402
15:47 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Add column filtering to the Datatables REST API wrapper
15:48 Joubu          yes, where the REST API wrapper is used
15:48 Joubu          so not impacting the existing tables
15:49 Joubu          to be clear, I removed the filters in the sidebar because the code was not trivial (and ugly)
15:49 Joubu          If there is an open question about it I prefer to not push it
15:49 Joubu          because once pushed, nobody will re-add them for sure
15:50 oleonard       I don't know why we need both, I think removing it is fine if the table header searches are there.
15:50 Joubu          that's why I removed them
15:51 Joubu          and keeping both in sync was a mess
15:51 tcohen         I think we could re-add them if required, but let's give this a few weeks for people to get used to it
16:29 cait1          ashimema: leaving it empty would also work for me :) (teh column search header field thignies)
16:29 ashimema       :)
16:30 ashimema       accessability wise I think we'd need decent aria descriptions
16:30 cait1          i think the text doesn't look so nice there really doubled up, like you sid
16:30 ashimema       but toherwise I'm good with that
16:30 cait1          agreed
16:30 ashimema       'Search' or 'Filter' would be my preference.. just to give the extra little hint at what the input does
16:30 cait1          this feeling of being happy that it#s friday tomorrow and slight panic when looking at your todo list that the week is almost over...
16:31 cait1          is it just me?
16:32 ashimema       I have an all day training tomorrow so I'm not hugely looking forward to it.
16:32 ashimema       but am looking forward to the weekend
16:32 cait1          can you share the topic? :)
16:32 caroline       I just want the week to be over tbh... todo list is like the universe, always in expansion
16:32 cait1          lol
16:32 cait1          that's actually too true to be funny...
16:33 caroline       lol! like I sometimes say, it's sad and funny at the same time
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Restore price formatting for ecost and replacement_price <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=03fa53c4475c2d2ca2288c63a1107fdbb618b996>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 27493: (follow-up) Remove redundant class <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfabf09d7051c12ccab6b361b04d4b95c9deac57>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 21851: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f2a0bdea8fdb8e5d71d8c4b3821f7760e1a57a1>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 27440: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ede297cfab18e85c5b40892c058be3355ee8407d>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 27493: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36975a143819dda6fb44dd7bae244d051f1291f3>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Filter on publisher and notes <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0669a0c1afd922db6f3a3c14ddafaf81fd7b52a>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 26755: Make the guarantor search popup taller <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5fbfecdb2f9dc690eec4a03569edef624fd6f452>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20238: Display description of ITEMTYPECAT in search category <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1e12c95e1d1ec907f6ed4465270569aa6c5a40d>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 27493: Add styling for hidden columns <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25106761cee20d54b5d222a65c8ac0ce07b48526>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 27493: Set column width for checkbox only columns <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7175906eaddcd970d879998f41a403bf2a6053c>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 27395: Add a warning to PatronSelfRegistrationDefaultCategory <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=065c955cc67b6f113c9fb5d5ed918ba1400b5af9>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 27440: Improve structure and style of result toolbars in the OPAC <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab4267f18cc73e92a17d4caa89c16939c4d6c490>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Remove fix_query and assume ugliness <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24a7fec4459250ff2461213da22dbb4dc2ed8f18>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Fix query for the global filter <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=43e0b298bf5c235dd21a60bbd42cddb04c505264>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Re-add EAN for UNIMARC <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=41c20e07cd4748556f125cd74289b51c3cee531c>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Remove fixedHeader <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=379b949d247a772126c794dcf02ea4d98e639a0a>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Use the DT column filtering provided by the wrapper <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6180725e61796252e3f9f735b0af2e91876acf86>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Search on fund's name instead of id <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f853584d55b7c890121a9e48de86cf4f59e0158>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20212: (follow-up) Avoid pagination on full resultset test <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=39f8f3988c6c3af5509d96d1b414451e7cb1f1ca>
16:35 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 21851: Improve style of sidebar forms <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f53606b6006a3a6b8e00a33b496640d3d552e960>
16:39 reiveune       bye
16:40 cait1          caroline: is there a date yet on branching 20.11? I wonder because of the link in koha
16:41 caroline       I do it when I start to receive merge requests for 21.05... I guess we could do it now
16:41 cait1          especially the translation https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/de/html/index.html can't really be updated, because there is no 20.11 translation project yet
16:42 cait1          hm maybe to it next week?
16:42 caroline       Hum, right
16:42 cait1          i might send in some more patches :)
16:42 cait1          do it... gr.
16:42 cait1          translating has side effects of seeing things
16:42 caroline       lol!
16:43 oleonard       Kind of like how writing test plans often shows you how your patch is lacking
16:43 cait1          but we are amost done with 20.05...but i worry that there will be lots of changes so would rather start on translating 20.11 now
16:43 cait1          true
16:44 cait1          a lot of the takss i had for the students came from notes i took while translating the manual, acually all of them
16:44 cait1          the only bad thing is now that they fixed those i will have to translte the parts again :)
16:44 cait1          caroline: no rush, but maybe think about a good time? I can try and work thorugh some more of my notes first maybe
16:44 caroline       that's always what I think about when updating the manual... it's like double the work
16:44 cait1          or triple... translate,... fix ... translate
16:45 cait1          but i believe it's getting better overall
16:45 cait1          our manual
16:45 caroline       I think so too... bit by bit
16:48 cait1          ok, time to go :) bye!
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