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06:28 fridolin      hi there
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06:53 IgorAS        Hi! "UseControlNumber" only works in marc21?
06:58 IgorAS        https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/catalogingpreferences.html#usecontrolnumber
07:09 reiveune      hello
07:09 wahanui       kia ora, reiveune
07:56 alex_a        Bonjour
07:56 wahanui       bonjour, alex_a
08:01 jsicot        Hi #koha
08:29 magnuse       \o/
08:53 * cait1       waves
09:10 cait1         ashimema: cuold you please kick translate again?
09:12 * cait1       offersa virtual cookies as a bribe
09:34 Joubu         ashimema: no wait
09:34 * cait1       freezes
09:34 cait1         it's back
09:34 Joubu         ha...
09:34 Joubu         I've asked to stop restarting it without trying to underestand what's happening
09:34 Joubu         otherwise we will keep restarting it forever
09:35 cait1         true
09:35 Joubu         I sent an email with a command to run before the restart
09:40 tcohen        morning
10:03 ashimema      haha.. I'm slow today so have only just seen this
10:03 ashimema      are you on the case Joubu?
10:17 Joubu         it's fixed apparently, I haven't done anything
10:17 cait1         self-fixed
10:17 cait1         i just translated a bit, it works normally
10:17 cait1         i am still working on the manual....
10:19 ashimema      twas not I
11:38 * cait1       waves
11:45 oleonard      Hi all
12:12 magnuse       \o/ again
12:18 ashimema      morning oleonard
12:18 ashimema      did I imagine a conversation with you about converting the cash register transactions table to an api driven table?
12:18 ashimema      and getting rid of the 'Older transactions' bit..
12:18 * ashimema    is looking for a bug for that
12:18 oleonard      Yes :D
12:19 ashimema      yes I imagined it?
12:19 ashimema      or yes we did talk about it
12:19 oleonard      I don't remember talking about it
12:19 ashimema      lol
12:19 ashimema      could have swarn it was you
12:19 oleonard      ...but then again my memory is terrible these days
12:19 ashimema      perhaps not.. lol
12:20 ashimema      ok.. different topic
12:20 ashimema      are you still keen to chase bug 27427 through?
12:20 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update the way form validation errors are displayed
12:20 oleonard      I was gathering my strength ;)
12:21 ashimema      hehe
12:22 oleonard      I'm looking at your last comment there...
12:22 ashimema      do feel completely free to shoot it down..
12:22 ashimema      I was trying to be a bit 'blue sky' with my thinking
12:24 ashimema      the 'when should validation take place' question is very wide open.. and in my opinion should be done as a set of bugs.. not a single one.. if we come up with an answer to that question that is..
12:25 oleonard      I think generally the validation doesn't happen until you try to submit the form. I think the POS form is different because validation is explicitly called during the data entry process.
12:26 ashimema      indeed
12:26 ashimema      I think that's the thing cait really doesn't like
12:26 ashimema      perhaps she's right and for consistency we should stop doing that?
12:27 oleonard      Stop validating as we going in that form?
12:27 * ashimema    hasn't actually tried.. we need to update the rules based on entered data.. I have a feeling that triggers a validation in itself.
12:27 ashimema      yeah
12:27 ashimema      it's inconsistent with elsewhere..
12:27 ashimema      but it did get me wondering if we aught to go the opposite direction.. and start validating as we go for other forms..
12:28 ashimema      especially with your nicer green valid display
12:28 ashimema      if we validate as we go the form inputs all start red and turn green one by one as we input them.. I kinda like that
12:29 ashimema      not sure if jQuery validator allows for single field validation to take place though.. that would be nicer.. rather than validate the whole form as you complete the first field.. validate each field as it's completed and then do a final validation at the end for the whole set (just in case we have fields that depend on other fields)
12:35 oleonard      Yeah I think the bug in question should go into "In discussion" while we look at options.
12:36 ashimema      or move the 'validating as we go' question to it's own bug
12:36 ashimema      and get your nice visible stuff working in this one?
12:36 ashimema      or do you feel they're too closely related?
12:36 oleonard      I don't want this bug to block Bug 27289
12:36 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Template tweaks for point of sale page
12:36 ashimema      I'm jsut aware that there's a major down the line
12:36 ashimema      exactly
12:50 mif           Good time of the day to you all! I have koha configured fine with ICU and search returns the right result, it does list Cyrillic items first, does anybody have any suggestions on how to void that ?
12:50 mif           Thank you!
13:03 magnuse       mif: Zebra or Elasticsearch
13:03 magnuse       ?
13:04 magnuse       (i don't think i know the answer for either of them, but it is the first question that springs to mind :-)
13:26 ashimema      Indeed, I don't know the answer either
13:26 ashimema      And they left
13:40 magnuse       i have a hunch there is a sort.* file for zebra, but not sure
13:43 magnuse       maybe this: https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/etc/zebradb/lang_defs/ru/sort-string-utf.chr
13:45 ashimema      mwhahaha.. I stole the top slot from cait again :)
13:58 ashimema      oleonard around still
13:58 oleonard      About to start a meeting, so sort of
13:58 ashimema      QAing bug 27294
13:58 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27294 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Error when deleting claim
13:59 ashimema      it feels like there may be other bugs in here... we call the same issuesTable. stuff a few places.. yet we don't define the variable as global anywhere in the file
13:59 ashimema      I'm wonering if we'd be better off doing similar for that table as we do for the returnClaimsTable..
14:00 ashimema      i.e. adding a glabal var and a refresh function
14:01 oleonard      I don't remember how the page works well enough to comment off the top of my head
14:01 ashimema      no worries
14:03 magnuse       ashimema++
14:03 ashimema      ?
14:03 magnuse       for stealing the top slot from cait
14:04 ashimema      :)
14:05 magnuse       next goal is to also beat her in the fqa ranking ;-)
14:47 cait1         you have to either add tem up or beat me in each separately
14:47 cait1         your choice :)
14:49 ashimema      I'm not great to FQA.. i tend to leave comments to try and coax it along.. I should really leave those and set the FQA status too
15:25 tcohen        ashimema: you are mean, poor bug
15:30 ashimema      :'(
15:30 tcohen        kidding, you are right
15:30 ashimema      I can try and take a look at adding the get your
15:31 ashimema      Route... Even
15:39 tcohen        I'm on a call
15:39 tcohen        might do it while they talk
15:41 ashimema      Haha
16:12 reiveune      bye
16:51 caroline      how is the table tmp_holdsqueue filled? does it use builkd_holds_queue?
16:59 oleonard      Yes
18:15 cait          Joubu: if you want to have a look... translate is off again
18:35 cait          Joubu: bac know
18:36 Joubu         I've just restarted it
18:36 Joubu         :)
19:05 cait          Joubu++ :)
19:05 cait          got my evening translatoin session done now
22:57 oleonard-away cait++