Time Nick Message 23:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #188: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/188/ 23:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #190: STILL UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/190/ 23:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #218: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/218/ 22:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #184: STILL UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/184/ 22:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #49: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/49/ 22:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #83: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U2010/83/ 22:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #187: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/187/ 21:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #184: FAILURE in 18 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/184/ 20:58 ashimema A small few of monitor them.. be nice to increase that minority number.. 20:58 ashimema Or.. submitting issues there if you're not confident submitting code 20:57 ashimema I think contributing to most side projects now is basically submitting merge requests on gitlab oleonard 20:10 huginn Bug 24480: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Failed QA , Fields added with Marc modifications templates are not added in an ordered way 20:10 philor khall_: for https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24480 should we treat SimpleMARC as a stable API and add new methods to insert/copy/move fields in order? 18:56 * oleonard needs a lesson on how to contribute to "side" projects like qa-test-tools 18:16 ashimema BASIC auth might work cait? 18:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #451: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/451/ 18:14 wahanui Congratulations! 18:14 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 18:13 ashimema looks like it uses standard 'get_template_and_user' 18:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1535: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1535/ 18:10 wahanui Congratulations! 18:10 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 18:09 ashimema I think rangi wrote it originally..maybe he knows 18:09 ashimema But never managed to work it out 18:08 ashimema I've wanted to do this in the past too 17:25 cait2 hm that only seems to apply to biblios? 17:24 cait2 can you use csv/authentication? 17:21 cait2 https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/de/html/webservices.html#json-reports-services 17:20 cait2 i assume you could get the cookie via curl or so? 17:20 cait2 but our documentation is lacking there :) 17:19 cait2 it requires authentication 17:19 cait2 ashimema: if i want a program to use a reprot via json that is not set to public 17:17 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 17:17 ashimema @later tell rangi any chance of merging those two outstanding requests on the dashboard? 17:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #185: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/185/ 17:16 wahanui Congratulations! 17:16 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:14 ashimema ? 17:14 cait2 does doemoen know how the authentification for "non-public" reports via json works? 17:12 cait2 so it will not show the red long message until you emty it out? 17:12 cait2 oleonard: loosk nice :) 17:11 cait2 i think i call them search links 17:06 caroline Author, Publisher, Subjects, Genre/Form 17:06 caroline For example http://rn20-test.hapax.inlibro.net/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=260958 17:06 caroline I would say authority, but it's not neccesarily authorities 17:05 caroline Is there a term encompassing all the things that are links in a record? 16:59 ashimema :) 16:59 oleonard Combine that with shorter warnings on the POS page and I think we've got something 16:35 ashimema That's pretty oleonard 16:35 ashimema back now.. 16:22 oleonard https://zivotdesign.com/n/index.php/s/6WrBe3G8mzoLXsN 16:22 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Template tweaks for point of sale page 16:22 oleonard ashimema Bug 27289 has me thinking about how we could improve validation errors globally 16:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26962: Make print.css pure black <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0b82280f82f0846938bf101502c403a09cfc4e4> 16:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27263: Link to preferences mentioned in system preference descriptions <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eccc6ee7159fd1e589ee6b3d3a8477c2f88a5b38> 16:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27325: Fix singular/plural forms on the OPAC dashboard <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=231d74702198f1513223a8cb2fd93c3e575c690a> 16:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26962: (follow-up) Catch other #000066 occurrences <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2a537c88b8b632eb3393a51012ca51c893e7ca5> 16:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27416: Make "Modify tag" and "Add tag" translatable <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4491cdd803226c22c585f3a23f6aa77000841bed> 16:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26950: Fix SIP/Message.t <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a861e9c008ab9192521b61b10c555a0c86490b0b> 16:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26962: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7d6ac62a8ac5d14f4cbdc7fcb073bb09ed4c7cf> 16:08 reiveune bye 15:45 tuxayo oleonard: that's inconvenient ^^" 15:45 Joubu stuck in 2020?? erk! 15:45 tuxayo Thanks for chairing Joubu and thanks all :) 15:45 oleonard I forgot to announce that I left my brain in 2020 15:44 oleonard Joubu++ 15:44 Joubu thanks 15:44 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021.2021-01-13-15.01.log.html 15:44 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021.2021-01-13-15.01.txt 15:44 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021.2021-01-13-15.01.html 15:44 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jan 13 15:44:36 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:44 Joubu #endmeeting 15:44 ashimema works for me 15:44 Joubu #info Next meeting: 27 January 2021, 20 UTC 15:43 Joubu no 15:43 Joubu #info Next meeting: 27 January 2021, 14 UTC 15:43 ashimema I'll fix that 15:43 ashimema haha 15:43 ashimema ok.. there's a bug in the dashboard then 15:43 ashimema ah.. 15:43 ashimema seems weird we test it against U18 if we don't 15:43 Joubu Koha_19.11_D10 15:43 ashimema do we test 19.x against D10? 15:42 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting 15:42 tuxayo Joubu++ 15:42 wahanui i think anything else is necessarily going to be incremental. 15:42 Joubu anything else? 15:42 ashimema nice one 15:42 kidclamp Joubu++ 15:42 ashimema :) 15:42 Joubu done 15:41 Joubu yes 15:41 ashimema jsut delete it from the CI 15:41 ashimema as it's already not appearing in the Dashboard.. yeah.. I think that it' 15:41 tuxayo If there isn't, what to do, just delete the job in the CI or there are more steps? 15:40 tuxayo No objections? 15:40 tuxayo It was proposed during a discussion about the system requirements and recommendations. 15:40 Joubu I will take on it 15:40 Joubu yes for me (already answered by email) 15:39 ashimema ++ 15:39 Joubu #topic CI: ok to remove mysql 8 from 20.05 and only test in master? [tuxayo] 15:39 ashimema kidclamp++ 15:38 kidclamp please comment more on the bug - i will talk to tomas when he is back about how the REST api can serve similar function, but just seeking discussion at this point 15:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17229 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , ILS-DI HoldTitle and HoldItem should check if patron is expired 15:37 kidclamp bug 17229 made me think, and the idea that REST and ILS-DI shoudl match behaviour, raises questions of how they should perform 15:36 ashimema but yes.. I'd be keen to reduce our api surface a bit and instead encourage people onto one well maintained one... 15:36 kidclamp but we have some bugs/enh in the queue and no real clear guidance on how exactly it should work 15:36 Joubu the other softwares can do the job if they know we are going to drop ILSDI 15:36 kidclamp agreed 15:36 ashimema I have a feeling it's widely used at the moment 15:35 Joubu kidclamp: if we have the REST API routes for the same info, I'd be ok to deprecate them (IMO!) 15:35 ashimema we could certainly start to advertise an intention to eventually deprecate it. 15:35 kidclamp there are access concerns with current ILS-DI - it provides a lot of unprivileged access that must be managed via server config 15:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , New interface for revamped circulation rules 15:34 wahanui hmmm... bug 15522 is the right place 15:34 ashimema bug 15522 15:34 kidclamp cait made a good point about it being different from rest api, but I think we could find a way to provide the info more in line with rest 15:33 tuxayo Sorry, was long to write that >< 15:33 tuxayo And not sure what more to do to review and I don't know about where is best to put them. 15:33 tuxayo System requirements and recommendations: I'm trying to focus consitently on some other tasks so I'm not sure I'll push much on that. 15:33 kidclamp It seems this specification is not managed anymore, so I think we should deprecate and consider replacing it 15:33 kidclamp Just to be clear, I am not suggesting we disable or remove it anytime soon 15:32 Joubu kidclamp: ? 15:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27423 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ILS-DI should be deprecated and functions moved to REST API 15:32 Joubu #topic ILS-DI bug 27423 15:32 Joubu hum.. last minute topics 15:32 Joubu #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 15:31 Joubu #action amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc. 15:31 Joubu postponing 15:31 Joubu I sent a later to amoyano, will send an email 15:31 Joubu #topic amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc. 15:31 Joubu ok, will continue by email for now, and update the action for the next meeting if needed 15:29 Joubu Is someone else willing to work on that? 15:29 cait2 phone call 15:28 ashimema well done on collecting all the info tuxayo 15:28 ashimema they looked solid to me.. seems I forgot to say that :) 15:27 Joubu tuxayo: willing to continue on it? 15:27 ashimema +1 15:27 tuxayo +1 15:27 Joubu then we should point to that place from everywhere else 15:27 Joubu next step would be to review it and find a good place to put them 15:27 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_requirements_and_recommendations 15:26 Joubu #info tuxayo: wikipage draft for System requirements and recommendations. Used by the RMaints for the latest minor release. 15:26 Joubu #topic davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) (still working on this - feel free to reallocate) 15:26 Joubu #topic Actions from last meeting 15:26 Joubu # Actions from last meeting 15:25 ashimema ah, that ol' chesnut.. 24488 has been on my list to look at for ages.. but every time I have I'd struggled to wrap my brain around it. 15:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24488 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Holds to Pull sometimes shows the wrong 'first patron' details 15:24 Joubu and bug 24488 15:23 ashimema at the minute.. it's been a bit easy to pick low handing fruit ;) 15:23 tuxayo2 :) 15:23 tuxayo2 Had a hard time since last week to spend time on Koha & QA, hopefully thing will get better 15:23 ashimema I'd love to see some others grabbing more of the easy ones.. and thus pushing me back into the harder ones.. 15:23 magnuse qateam++ 15:23 Joubu pick that one 15:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27251 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Rewrite the QOTD editor using the Koha REST API 15:23 Joubu bug 27251 15:23 kidclamp I apologize to anyone who has been subjected to me rewriting things when I tery to QA, I will reign it in 15:23 cait2 but seriously, some I am not confident to touch, so always happy to see you guys go there 15:22 cait2 yes, I need you devs to get rid of the scary ones for me ;) 15:22 kidclamp ^same 15:22 ashimema working myself up to looking at the bigger things again 15:22 cait2 please keep this up! 15:22 ashimema I had a slow start this year.. but have been working through bugs this week 15:22 cait2 #info Very glad to see more interaction in QA team and quite a bit of QA activity spread out a bit more 15:21 cait2 #info QA queue is around 50ish, not super bad, but could be better! 15:21 Joubu #topic Updates from the QA team 15:21 Joubu moving on? 15:20 ashimema `Ex Libris Titley - http://home.ostara.titley.com`.. interesting one to be in our stats 15:19 * tuxayo2 does one now 15:19 tuxayo2 Nope, the only way is to make snapshots at https://web.archive.org/web/2020*/https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences 15:19 tuxayo2 > can we see history in hea somehow? 15:18 tuxayo2 Koha is taking over the world :D 15:17 cait2 11.600 libaries too - i guess we can up our assumed number quite a bit 15:17 ashimema i.e. is there a sudden decrease in 20.05 usage when 20.11 came out 15:17 ashimema I'm interested to see how many of those are new installs vs how many are upgrades 15:17 ashimema can we see history in hea somehow? 15:16 ashimema 423 live on 20.11 in hea.. wow! 15:16 cait2 good to hear that! 15:15 ashimema big public libraries so far.. might get a uni to thing about testing soon 15:15 ashimema they won't go live on it for a few more months.. but are testing the heck out of it with massive datasets copied from their live sites. 15:15 kidclamp we upgrade to 20.05 in february 15:15 ashimema we have a couple of early adopters testing 20.11 15:14 tuxayo2 wow 423 reported instances on 20.1100000 15:14 cait2 we are testing 20.05 but a bit behind and building our own packages... 15:14 tuxayo2 https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences 15:14 tuxayo2 stats about version usage? 15:13 cait2 is it 2011 or 20.05? 15:13 fridolin do we have stats ? 15:13 fridolin BTW is anyone using it ? 15:13 Joubu will see later if needed 15:13 Joubu ok, all good if fixed now :) 15:13 fridolin juste Andrew had not SSH access 15:12 fridolin https://download.koha-community.org/ yep 15:12 Joubu was there a known problem about 20.05 tarball? 15:12 tuxayo2 it's there so it seems ok https://download.koha-community.org/ 15:12 tuxayo2 > is 20.05 release tarball ok now ? 15:12 fridolin yep ;) 15:11 ashimema nice to see you back in the swing of things fridolin :) 15:11 fridolin is 20.05 release tarball ok now ? 15:11 ashimema :) 15:11 wahanui i heard anything else was necessarily going to be incremental. 15:11 Joubu anything else? 15:11 fridolin i mailled 15:11 Joubu (hopefully) 15:10 Joubu #info 20.11.01 is out, deb packages will be released soon! 15:10 cait2 or maybe just do the sign-off with a note if i can 15:09 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 15:09 Joubu Testing the UI would be very useful 15:09 cait2 i not so confident about the code checking there, but can test the gui 15:08 cait2 i could share testing with anothr qa member if possible 15:08 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 15:07 Joubu any questions? 15:07 Joubu It's ready for another SO+QA run. It's quite fun to test if you like REST API and DataTables. 15:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Enable fixedHeader for Datatables 15:07 Joubu bug 27403 15:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add column filtering to the Datatables REST API wrapper 15:07 liliputech_asu #info Arthur Suzuki, BibLibre 15:07 Joubu with bug 27402 and 15:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Slowness in receiving in acquisitions 15:07 Joubu I'd like to highligh bug 20212 on which I worked in the last couple of days to improve it a bit. 15:06 Joubu and will continue sending emails next week. 15:06 Joubu I am assuming everybody put there names and topics for now and I will move the topics without enough volunteers at the bottom ("LATER") 15:06 Joubu You can see the status of some of them (search for "Status:"). 15:06 Joubu About the roadmap (https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_roadmap) I've sent some emails in the last 2 weeks to start working on some of the topics. 15:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , RaiseError must be set for the UI 15:06 Joubu I really would like to push bug 25026 before end of January. 15:06 Joubu I am starting to push new enhancements for 21.05. We are entering the month where we can push big things! 15:05 cait2 mjames on koha-testing-docker - so I think he is around in the background 15:05 Joubu #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) 15:05 Joubu indeed cait2 15:05 fridolin yep oki 15:05 Joubu fridolin: sent him an email! 15:05 cait2 there were some gitlab notices yesterday triggered by him i think? 15:05 fridolin oki no pb 15:05 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 15:04 Joubu maybe he is on holiday 15:04 Joubu I don't, mtj does not seem to be around much 15:04 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe, UK 15:04 fridolin i see perldeps is still 20.11.00 15:04 fridolin Joubu: do you know about packaging ? 15:04 fridolin Release of 20.11.01 is there 15:03 Joubu Anyone have something? 15:03 Joubu #topic Announcements 15:03 fridolin #info Fridolin Somers, Biblire 15:03 jajm #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre 15:02 cait2 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 15:02 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 15:01 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway 15:01 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 15:01 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 15:01 wahanui somebody said rmaints was fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo 15:01 Joubu rmaints? 15:01 wahanui qa_team is probably cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo 15:01 Joubu qa_team? 15:01 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 15:01 Joubu #topic Introductions 15:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021' 15:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Jan 13 15:01:20 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021 15:01 Joubu :) 15:01 cait2 we are heere 15:01 cait2 yep 15:01 Joubu shhhhut 15:01 Joubu I am about to start the meeting 15:00 ashimema yes.. we need to get to work on working through that roadmap :) 15:00 cait2 i think it would be great to have before finishing 15:00 cait2 and let the people split it out later 15:00 oleonard I could use help with that. I tried to do it in the template and was unsuccessful. 15:00 ashimema there's some work to convert to Objects.. but I'm not sure if it's testable yet or not 15:00 cait2 migratet hem to all languages instead of duplicating 15:00 cait2 that would make the migrations much more fun 15:00 ashimema yup.. me too 15:00 oleonard ^^ Yes 15:00 cait2 :) 15:00 cait2 i still want a "all languages" setting 15:00 Joubu yes, in the roadmap ;) 14:59 ashimema the News migration stuff that is.. finishing the job and doing it in a somewhat clearer way 14:59 ashimema we could really do with cleaning up that work.. 14:59 magnuse that was not quite obvious 14:58 magnuse ah yes, i think i see what happened now. some news items are set to "all" locations, including the OpacCustomSearch one 14:57 caroline It may have been moved to the news tool? 14:57 oleonard OpacCustomSearch is in news now 14:56 caroline https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/implementation_checklist.html#editable-opac-regions 14:56 caroline OpacCustomSearch 14:55 magnuse what's the syspref for replacing the opac simple search box? or did we get rid of it? version 20.05 14:55 ashimema ohla 14:50 cait2 oi 14:44 Joubu dev meeting in 15 14:35 ashimema that's the one 14:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26188 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow disabling SMTP configuration in koha-conf.xml 14:35 Joubu bug 26188 14:34 ashimema I think there's also a bug open to force the use of koha-conf or not too 14:33 Joubu but what to do if there is one defined in koha-conf? 14:33 domm yeah, I agree that this would make sense! 14:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27424 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , One should be able to assign an SMTP server as the default 14:29 ashimema :) 14:29 ashimema right.. reported bug 27424 for it. 14:27 Joubu that would make sense 14:26 ashimema so you can override the hard coded fallback in one hit 14:25 ashimema I feel like you should have a 'Make default' option somewhere in the smtp servers configuration UI 14:25 ashimema at the moment to get a server to be used you have to add it via SMTP servers.. then go to each library and update it to use the newly added server.. 14:25 Joubu ashimema: nope 14:25 liliputech_asu hi koha 14:24 ashimema yeah.. but I mean in the UI too 14:24 Joubu in $KOHA_CONF 14:24 ashimema that would be a nice addition.. right? 14:24 ashimema I could have swarn there was a simple way of making one of the defined smtp servers the default for all libraries 14:24 ashimema tcohen did this development 14:23 ashimema tcohen.. wasn't there a way to set a particular smtp server as the default ? 14:23 ashimema nice one 14:23 domm yay, I got mail! 14:21 magnuse step 5: holiday! 14:21 caroline step 4: profit! 14:21 ashimema lol 14:20 domm step 3: spam! 14:20 domm step 2: link SMTP server with library 14:20 domm step 1: define SMTP server 14:19 ashimema there's certainly not the greatest user experience 14:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27420 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , A mistake in bug 5161 leads to some patron attributes appearing without a fieldset 14:19 Joubu oleonard: I was going to SO bug 27420, were you saying it does not work for you? 14:19 domm again, now that I see it, it makes sense :-) 14:19 domm ah, ok, foudn it 14:19 ashimema and then edit a libray your interested in.. you can select which smtp server it uses there 14:19 ashimema so.. if you go to 'System administration > Libraries' 14:19 domm (the db table library_smtp_servers) 14:18 domm library_smtp_servers is emtpy, from the code I assume something needs to be in there 14:18 ashimema domm, it seems we didn't finish adding something I requested.. an easy way to one smtp server as the system default 14:16 * ashimema reminds himself how it works for domm 14:16 ashimema you can then assign it to the branches 14:16 ashimema once you've defined an smtp server from that UI 14:16 ashimema you don't ;) 14:16 oleonard ashimema I'm trying to leverage some of the more obscure settings of the validation plugin 14:16 domm or how do I mark another smtp server as default? 14:15 domm how do I tell cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl to use the non-default smtp server? 14:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Template tweaks for point of sale page 14:15 ashimema did you say you had some idea's for bug 27289 oleonard.. or should I take a look myself? 13:58 oleonard cait2: I hope I didn't miss some code somewhere... I didn't expect to only find template stuff 13:58 ashimema :) 13:55 domm well, I'm still finding my way around Koha, so it's unfortunantley not always very clear to me, what is what. But if i figure out where to look (or what I'm actually after) it's usually very well documented :-) 13:53 ashimema this is it's own configuration area self contained 13:53 domm ok, good that you added this, because I want to send via localhost:1025 on my dev machine, so I can use a fake-mailer 13:53 ashimema the search-system-prefs box only searches the 'System preferences' 13:52 domm (but when I enter smtp into the search-system-prefs box, this option does not show up..) 13:51 ashimema prior to this release you had to just configure it at the server.. i.e via your systems MTA 13:51 ashimema but it does work well when I tested it.. 13:51 ashimema it's very new.. hence I'm not sure it's been fully documented yet 13:50 ashimema hehe 13:50 domm ah, ok, NOW i see it.. 13:50 ashimema in that case :) 13:50 ashimema Koha administration > SMPT servers 13:49 ashimema aha.. :) 13:49 domm 20.11 13:48 ashimema that's very recently changed in Koha domm.. what version are you running? 13:47 domm I can't find any hint in koha-conf.xml, google or the admin ui 13:46 domm where can I specify the smtp server (and port, etc) to use for sending mails? 13:45 cait2 oleonard-away: thx for the patch for upcoming events :) 13:11 ashimema no rush though 13:11 ashimema ok.. I might need more to go on to replicate issues when you have a moment ;) 13:11 ashimema humm 13:10 oleonard I don't have it in front of my anymore but there were still issues with things not being in fieldsets correctly 13:08 ashimema it all appears to work with my patch on master to me. 13:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27420 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , A mistake in bug 5161 leads to some patron attributes appearing without a fieldset 13:08 ashimema what issues were you still seeing with bug 27420 btw? 13:07 ashimema :) 13:07 * oleonard is fiddling with it 13:07 oleonard You can modify the error message for a generic "required" field so that it says "Required" rather than "This field is required" 13:02 ashimema I don't know that you can remove the message without also removing the actual amount validations 13:01 ashimema but it is both required and required to be a above a certain amount 13:01 ashimema ? 12:52 oleonard That's a good idea 12:50 cait2 could we go with just "required" there? 12:33 cait2 well more like very cluttery 12:31 cait2 and it's even worse in German 12:30 cait2 and it always displays then 12:30 cait2 because the text that appears is so long 12:30 cait2 i just feel it looks a bit cluttery 12:29 oleonard We talked about it for a bit and ultimately felt that trying to address your issue with the "required" labels would create more problems than it would solve. 12:29 cait2 in a video conf, so reading back is a bit hard, can you summarize? 12:28 cait2 sorry, I didn't 12:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Template tweaks for point of sale page 12:28 oleonard cait2 did you see the discussion I had with ashimema the other day about Bug 27289? 12:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #48: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/48/ 12:23 ashimema at least that's what I was seeing this morning. 12:23 ashimema and.. if there are some attributes without a class then they just sit in the parent fieldset 12:22 ashimema then I also see a fieldset per class inside that.. 12:22 ashimema yeah.. I see that 12:22 cait2 the label is "Additional attributes and identifiers" 12:22 ashimema well.. ish 12:22 ashimema yup 12:22 cait2 but back to the first question... i think a blank value is needed and in 18.11 without a class they get a general fieldset 12:21 cait2 in 18.11 you can't :) 12:21 ashimema yeay, oleonard can replicate :) 12:21 cait2 hm maybe a newer vresion thing 12:21 cait2 customization? 12:21 oleonard I get a text input if there are no values for PA_CLASS 12:21 ashimema that's interseting 12:21 ashimema oh really 12:21 ashimema and it's empty to start 12:21 ashimema can't they? 12:21 ashimema the actaul values within it can be deleted I think 12:21 cait2 mine is empty and i have no text field 12:21 ashimema the category can exists 12:20 cait2 so I'd say that's a non-standard solution :) 12:20 cait2 so you have to delete it using sQL... 12:20 cait2 hm you can't delete categoriesand this one gets added by default 12:20 ashimema if you don't have any PA_CLASS av's defined.. the box becomes a text box instead of a selectbox 12:20 cait2 ashimema: i can't type into the box 12:19 ashimema bbiab 12:19 * ashimema goes back to his call 12:18 ashimema I'll have a go with the patch on master 12:18 ashimema 'tis on my list to upgrade that customer to .01 release today actually 12:18 ashimema I actually only tested it on a 20.11.00 12:17 ashimema that's interesting 12:17 ashimema oh really.. 12:17 oleonard Unfortunately I still see problems after your patch 12:16 * ashimema is in a call with the customer who is using all this stuff right now as it happens 12:16 ashimema also.. you con't actually have to stick to the PA_CLASS av set either.. you can just type into the box if you've not added any PA_CLASS's 12:16 cait2 but it#s the general one 12:16 cait2 i think they have a container 12:16 ashimema if you don't, they just get added without a fieldset container 12:16 cait2 our PA_CLASS pull down is empty 12:16 ashimema you don't have to select one.. 12:15 cait2 i think there should be a blank.... i can check in 18.11? 12:15 cait2 hm no 12:11 oleonard It makes me wonder if it has always been the case that one has to select a class for an attribute type. There's no "blank" option. 12:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27420 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , A mistake in bug 5161 leads to some patron attributes appearing without a fieldset 12:10 oleonard ashimema: Bug 27420 is indeed a weird one 11:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #217: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/217/ 11:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #82: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U2010/82/ 11:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #38: SUCCESS in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/38/ 11:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #189: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/189/ 11:06 cait2 ... and off for lunch break 11:06 cait2 hi oleonard :) 11:04 oleonard HI #koha 09:09 cait1 ok, maybe we can write "in french only" in hte manual to make it more clear 09:08 Joubu I'd ask paul_p 09:07 fridolin but text is only displayed for french lang I think 09:07 fridolin cait1: it is not UNIMARC specific, and can be used in non-french 09:07 cait1 french dewey? :) 09:07 cait1 oh interesting 09:06 fridolin note that french text is harcoded in script, its the Dewey classification 09:06 cait1 and can you tell if it's "French" or "UNIMARC" specific? 09:06 cait1 heh 09:06 fridolin ok then 09:06 fridolin ah oups 09:04 Joubu fridolin, cait: It's not 4, it's 304! 09:01 ashimema I only QA'd one more than you to kick you off the top spot yesterday to be fair.. so I wasn't a hard tartget for you really ;) 09:00 ashimema I know.. 09:00 cait1 I only did like 4! 09:00 * ashimema kinda wanted to encourage someone other than cait1 ;) 09:00 cait1 heh, but what about the four using it? 09:00 ashimema curse you cait1, you knocked me off the top spot :P 08:59 ashimema lol 08:58 fridolin I think you can propose to remove this code 08:58 ashimema morning 08:58 fridolin cait1: yeeeek its french hardcoded in this cronjob 08:56 fridolin Its generated by misc/cronjobs/build_browser_and_cloud.pl 08:56 cait1 thx for checking fridolin++ 08:56 cait1 fridolin: hm ok, wonder what it is! 08:55 fridolin so i think we dont enable it at Biblibre 08:55 fridolin I see only 4 with syspref on 08:55 fridolin cait1: looking at https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences 08:52 dersmon hey! 08:52 fridolin I search 08:52 fridolin "Browse by hierarchy" 08:51 fridolin old code here 08:50 fridolin hueuu 08:45 cait1 fridolin: are you using OpacBrowser in your libraries? the manual says: If you have theâ :ref:`OpacBrowser` preference set decideâ :ref:`when you want the contents to rebuild <cron-authorities-browser-label>` (French libraries only) - is it French or UNIMARC? 08:33 nlegrand o/ magnuse cait1 08:22 cait1 good morning #koha :) 08:19 magnuse god morgen nlegrand 08:18 nlegrand gut morgn #koha, un a gut yor! 07:48 alex_a Bonjour 07:36 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 07:36 reiveune hello 07:03 fridolin hi here 05:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #25: FIXED in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U16/25/ 05:45 wahanui Congratulations! 05:45 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 05:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #20: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U18/20/ 05:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U2010 build #23: FIXED in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U2010/23/ 05:39 wahanui Congratulations! 05:39 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 05:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #186: FIXED in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/186/ 05:39 wahanui Congratulations! 05:39 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 04:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #32: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/32/ 04:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #39: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/39/ 04:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #37: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/37/ 04:18 wahanui Congratulations! 04:18 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 04:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #450: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/450/ 02:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #36: FAILURE in 4 min 54 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/36/ 01:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #493: NOW UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/493/