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23:48 alexbuckley    thanks lisettelatah!
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23:39 lisettelatah   Happy new year alexbuckley
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23:10 alexbuckley    happy new year everyone!
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22:29 wahanui        Congratulations!
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22:20 * cait         sends oleonard-away cookies
21:36 ashimema       Humm.. decisions
21:36 ashimema       But Caroline informed me they don't branch for a long time yet.. so it'll just be a clear be of what we're pushing for 20.05
21:35 ashimema       Indeed.. that's why I added it
21:24 cait           not so good
21:22 rangi          (help links)
21:22 rangi          the links in 20.11 koha will break then though
21:21 rangi          dont really want to drop old ones unless we really have to tho, but i can drop the 20.11 one
21:20 rangi          we go back to 16.11
21:19 rangi          i can drop the 20.11 if you like
21:15 ashimema       I think we can delete one version of the manual.. currently 20.05 and 20.11 are duplicates of each other so I dropped building 20.11 again but it built one copy of it before it filled the disk.. i think
21:14 ashimema       or liz
21:14 ashimema       rangi still around?
20:26 magnuse        i don't think it would be wise to always assume Joubu is kidding :-)
20:26 thd            If general meetings are never late, then it is a difficulty for Oceana.
20:24 thd            Joubu is not a kidding
20:22 cait           wahanui.. not sure that is true
20:22 wahanui        Joubu is kidding, right ;)
20:22 cait           Joubu?
20:22 cait           i think it's more forgetting in this case?
20:22 cait           he sometimes is
20:21 thd            Someone official should be fixing door handles to my building but they building people have tended to do a poor job with the door and it would be broken again in a week or so risking all of us being locked out or locked in.
20:19 caroline       I think it's a bad idea to have the general meetings this late if the rm is never there at this time
20:19 thd            If it is not going to happen today I have the door handle to the entrance to my building to fix.
20:18 caroline       oh yeah, I forgot
20:17 thd            Was anyone here for the general meeting?
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19:50 magnuse        same to you, same to you
19:49 rangi          kia ora magnuse, happy new year
19:49 magnuse        kia ora rangi
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19:25 huginn         rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:25 rangi          @later tell ashimema you'll need to ask liz to make the partition bigger or we will need to delete some older manuals
19:23 rangi          apart from delete stuff
19:22 rangi          it's not my server so i cant do much about that
19:22 rangi          and yep the /var/www/manual partition is full
19:21 rangi          ashimema: the server is the www.koha-community.org site
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18:20 * caroline     really needs to get on top of merging requests so that it doesn't come to that...
18:20 * ashimema     would have walked you through it.. but brain is in end of day mode and I have kids screaming at me for tea ;)
18:20 ashimema       no worries
18:19 caroline       ok thanks!
18:19 ashimema       it checked out ok here.. so I rebased it and force pushed over the top of Lucy's branch for you
18:19 caroline       ashimema: thank you so much! what did you do?
18:19 ashimema       no idea why you were getting that weird issue with checking the branch out
18:18 caroline       I also experimented with .. Tip:: and .. Warning::
18:18 ashimema       you should be able to click the magic button now Caroline
18:17 caroline       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ReStructuredText_-_Tips_and_Tricks#Images
18:17 cait           remind me if i shoudl forget contributing?
18:17 caroline       it looks so nice
18:17 caroline       we also started using the .. Note:: command for notes
18:17 ashimema       it's those bloomin images.rst again
18:16 cait           :)
18:16 * caroline     is very excited about this
18:16 cait           gotta read back!
18:16 caroline       YES! since last meeting!
18:16 cait           ooh great, are we using named images now?
18:15 cait           s
18:15 * cait         is lost in cat hat
18:14 ashimema       interesting
18:14 caroline       and by colland line I mean command line...
18:14 caroline       I try to follow the colland line instructions, but it saysfatal: 'origin/lucyvh-master-patch-95749' is not a commit and a branch 'lucyvh-master-patch-95749' cannot be created from it
18:13 caroline       ashimema: can I bother you again? I'm having trouble with this one https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/merge_requests/434
18:08 caroline       aw she also made the matching dog fox hood https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/dachshund-fox-hood
18:04 caroline       oleonard: https://cutecatsinhats.com/
18:03 caroline       cute!
18:03 cait           (if you wonder what keeps me from qa these days....) ;)
18:03 cait           already have the hat... but need to attach cat like ears that stand up :)
18:03 oleonard       Oh that one is nice cait!
18:02 cait           a bit bigger
18:02 cait           e
18:02 cait           https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/fox-hood-3 mayb
18:01 caroline       this one looks easy https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/cat-eared-baby-hat
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17:59 caroline       I did a fox hoodie a couple of years ago, I think the ears were in crochet though
17:59 cait           omg... just opened your link
17:58 cait           she won't accept it before
17:58 cait           caroline: my next "project" is finding a way to do make cat ears and attach them to the hat i made for a friend...
17:58 oleonard       Can you picture my lifeless body after I try to wrestle my cats into hats?
17:57 caroline       I can totally see you wearing one oleonard XD
17:57 oleonard       That was my favorite too
17:55 caroline       LOL https://www.etsy.com/listing/687388614/knitting-pattern-bundle-balaclava-hat
17:53 caroline       the photos are priceless
17:53 caroline       speaking of kitties and doggies... I crack up every time I stumble upon these patterns on ravelry https://www.ravelry.com/designers/valya-boutenko
17:48 cait           :)
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17:47 caroline       I should make kitty/doggy sweaters for those of use who don't/won't have babies
17:47 cait           i think she was :)
17:46 caroline       I hope she was happy :D
17:46 cait           yep, heard back yesterday, finally!
17:46 caroline       good!
17:46 caroline       lol!
17:46 caroline       did the package arrive?
17:46 cait           btw, package arrived!
17:46 cait           reminds me I told my dad today how you helped me navigate the French post service website :)
17:46 caroline       lol!
17:46 cait           caroline: before even reading it - you're a hero :)
17:45 cait           to trigger the note
17:45 cait           never know when poeple actually say something
17:45 cait           IRC is not very reliable for laters
17:45 ashimema       merge it anyways...
17:45 cait           if this here doesn't work maybe email
17:45 ashimema       i.e the clone of the 'dev' version of the manual
17:45 ashimema       I can't clean up things so I think he just needs to go on and delete some stuff
17:44 caroline       I understand!
17:44 ashimema       I've already asked before xmas but it's a busy time ;)
17:44 caroline       cait: I finished the numbering patterns part (not merged yet because of above problem) https://gitlab.com/carolinecyrlarose/koha-manual/-/blob/e503730a93ad637a389f916cf79d2ec3c20fe312/source/serials.rst
17:44 huginn         ashimema: The operation succeeded.
17:44 ashimema       @later tell rangi can you possible look at the manual builds?  I think we've run out of space on the server we're pushing too
17:43 caroline       can you help?
17:43 caroline       https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/commits/master
17:42 caroline       ashimema and/or rangi the last couple of commits on the manual failed
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16:20 * cait         waves
16:15 reiveune       bye
15:52 caroline       I only see someone with very big lips lol
15:52 oleonard       {{8{{}} Cookie monster
15:51 oleonard       8-{{}}
15:51 caroline       { mustache and } fancy mustache
15:51 oleonard       :-{
15:50 fridolin       { is mustache XD
15:04 caroline       ok that's what I'll use in the manual
15:04 caroline       that's what my partner said too (he's also a programmer)
15:04 oleonard       That's what I know them as too
15:03 ashimema       but I'm not sure that's their formal name
15:03 ashimema       I call them 'curly brackets'
15:03 caroline       what is the name for {} in English?
14:34 oleonard       Especially combined with this: https://cpriest.github.io/SnapLinksPlus/#/
14:33 oleonard       Useful for deleting multiple messages by keyword
14:32 oleonard       wizzyrea: I hacked together a patron messages management report of sorts: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Patrons#Search_patron_messages_by_keyword.2C_with_delete_link
14:31 oleonard       Hi wizzyrea
14:11 magnuse        kia ora caroline
13:48 caroline       good morning everyone!
12:08 tuxayo         hi #koha o/
11:16 oleonard       Yes
10:57 tcohen         Yes
10:56 fridolin       ^^
10:56 fridolin       do you whant coffee ? Yes/No/2
10:56 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27349 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Mana system preference wrong type YesNo
10:56 fridolin       Bug 27349
10:39 liliputech_asu server side improved handling of different currency formats is great too :) (kind of a merry christmas ^^)
10:39 liliputech_asu ok
10:38 ashimema       I still think inputmasks might be the best approach
10:38 ashimema       mine is all about the serverside handling once the data is already on the server.. we certainly need something to parse input better and validate it's formats
10:38 ashimema       yeah.. I think your side of it is coming at it from the opposite direction.. I reckon we need both
10:37 liliputech_asu nice.
10:37 liliputech_asu ashimema: yes, i think tuxayo was thinking more of js-controlling the input
10:37 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17138 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , UpdateFine() modyfies existing fine records even when there is no need
10:37 ashimema       it came about from a bunch of "quick fixes" I was seeing around the issues reported in bug 17138.. hence that being my starting point
10:36 ashimema       sure.. this was certainly a starting point draft at this stage
10:36 liliputech_asu ashimema: had a look at your draft branch for currencies, looks fine, i will test it on the issue we got from partners, if that suits, can i use it to provide patch on bugzilla? or you take/re-assign the BZ?
09:49 huginn         Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:49 Joubu          @later tell tcohen do you agree with the last patch on 27251 or do you think we should add JS to correctly show/hide the table?
09:28 ashimema       https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_roadmap - signup if your interested in helping in any regard ;)
09:27 ashimema       anywho.. mathematically the tests are all passing on that branch.. there are a few formatting ones failing at the minute that I'm aware of and need to fix.. either by dropping the formatting options in Data::Money or updating our code to use them consistently
09:26 ashimema       I reckon I'll need to take that into account somewhere too
09:26 ashimema       I think you're looking at it from the other direction though.. how to ensure input makes sense with locale cases for , vs . as decimal separator..
09:24 ashimema       it handles rounding internally and overloads standard perl operators.. so math should 'just work' with rounding included for 'free'
09:24 liliputech_asu \o/
09:24 ashimema       but my thoughts are to replace all our currency accessors.. setting them to return Koha::Number::Money objects.. which are basically a minor wrapper around Data::Money
09:23 ashimema       totally in draft at the moment..
09:23 ashimema       I'm looking for some early feedback on https://gitlab.com/mrenvoize/Koha/-/merge_requests/2/diffs
09:23 liliputech_asu yes, that's me
09:23 liliputech_asu ooooh...
09:22 alex_a         liliputech_asu ^
09:22 ashimema       arthur.. that's the person I was thinking of
09:22 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21507 major, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, ASSIGNED , Decimal separators issues in patrons payments/fines, simplified
09:22 Joubu          bug 21507?
09:21 ashimema       hmm.. I'm sure there was someone else involved at biblibre too
09:21 alex_a         Yep, that was tuxayo
09:21 Joubu          that was tuxayo
09:20 ashimema       working through issues with floor vs ceil and things?
09:20 ashimema       alex_a was it you who was keen to work on currency rounding issues at some point?
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09:01 wahanui        Congratulations!
09:01 koha-jenkins   Yippee, build fixed!
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08:48 wahanui        Congratulations!
08:48 koha-jenkins   Yippee, build fixed!
08:35 magnuse        ashimema: busy ;-)
08:04 ashimema       how is everyone today :)
08:03 alex_a         and ashimema :)
08:03 alex_a         Hello magnuse
08:03 ashimema       :)
08:03 magnuse        ...and alex_a
08:03 magnuse        kia ora ashimema
08:03 alex_a         Bonjour
08:03 ashimema       mornin'
08:03 magnuse        no snow here, so quite dark
08:02 magnuse        godt nytt år ;-)
07:45 liliputech_asu how is it in norway? :)
07:44 liliputech_asu 明けましておめでとう -> akemashite omedetou -> happy new year in japanese ^^
07:44 liliputech_asu hi magnuse :)
07:43 magnuse        happy new year liliputech_asu
07:41 liliputech_asu hi koha, happy new year!
07:38 reiveune       hello
07:35 * magnuse      waves
03:35 dcook          Hoping that other vendors find that useful too
03:34 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27267 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Create more efficient daemon for indexing Zebra
03:34 dcook          bug 27267
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00:33 wahanui        Congratulations!
00:33 koha-jenkins   Yippee, build fixed!
00:30 cait           do you remember why we need to escape with \ ?
00:30 cait           i noticed sometimes we escape _ and other times we don't
00:30 cait           might make them really small bugs, don#t be too surprised
00:30 cait           caroline: i am going to file some manual finds from tranlsating for the acadmey students
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00:26 wahanui        Congratulations!
00:26 koha-jenkins   Yippee, build fixed!
00:20 mtj            hi tcohen: https://theke-space-one.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/dbgp.tar.gz is causing a ktd build error
00:00 caroline       and there is nothing in the manual https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/serials.html#manage-serial-numbering-patterns T_T
00:00 caroline       but yeah, I haven't attacked numbering patterns... that's the biggest chunk