Time  Nick         Message
00:12 tcohen       @later te..
00:12 huginn       tcohen: I suck
00:12 tcohen       @later tell Joubu there are some plugin warnings on Jenkins, it is because the .deb install of jenkins is a release behind. It should get fixed soon
00:12 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
00:13 tcohen       ^^ https://plugins.jenkins.io/branch-api/
00:13 tcohen       requires a newer version
00:13 tcohen       seems to work correctly, though
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02:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
02:50 wahanui      Congratulations!
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07:36 alex_a       Bonjour
07:36 wahanui      salut, alex_a
07:42 reiveune     hello
08:06 * cait       waves
08:12 magnuse      \o/
08:33 nlegrand     Bonjour !
08:34 nlegrand     tuxayo: do you see some activity around Bug 25439?
08:34 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25439 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [Omnibus] Prepare Koha to ElasticSearch 7 - ES7
10:18 tuxayo       hi nlegrand :)
10:21 tuxayo       No activity unfortunately, and fortunately, ES 8 isn't out yet.
10:22 tuxayo       There are some low hanging fruits in bug 25684 bug 25668 bug 22520
10:22 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25684 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ElasticSearch 7 start crash: at least one of [discovery.seed_hosts, discovery.seed_providers, cluster.initial_master_nodes] must be configured
10:22 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25668 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ElasticSearch 6 deprecation: the default number of shards will change in version 7
10:22 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22520 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Be Elastic compliant 7.x and 8.x (_doc)
10:23 tcohen       morning
10:25 Joubu        Native English speaker around?
10:30 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
10:30 wahanui      Congratulations!
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10:34 ashimema     Hi
10:34 * ashimema   tries to kick his grumpy mood..
10:34 ashimema     What's up Joubu.. native speaker here
10:36 Joubu        ashimema: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=114245&action=edit
10:36 Joubu        is that correct?
10:41 kidclamp     yeah, the phrase is a little awkward either way but I think it makes sense
10:44 Joubu        what would be a less awkward phrase?
10:45 * ashimema   reads
10:45 cait         Joubu: i hate when the native speakers say something like that :)
10:45 cait         ;)
10:45 kidclamp     'Claim returned' has become a thing in libraries, I think that is what makes it awkward, that those two words now go together as a pair
10:46 kidclamp     "Claim an item was returned" 'Claim this issue was returned" - its shorthand for things like that
10:46 ashimema     I think without the patch is better personally..
10:46 ashimema     as it matches the content of the later string
10:46 ashimema     'Claim returned' and 'Claim returned is disabled' feel like they go together
10:46 ashimema     could even be 'This is disabled'
10:47 Joubu        "This feature is disabled"?
10:47 ashimema     that would work for me :)
10:47 kidclamp     "ClaimReturnedLostValue is not set, this feature is disabled"
10:47 Joubu        ok thanks
10:47 kidclamp     let them know how to enable ;-)
10:47 Joubu        yep
10:47 ashimema     or hide the button entirely if the feature is disabled?
10:48 kidclamp     disable Koha entirely if they don't set things the way we like them!
10:48 ashimema     not sure it's really needed unless we actually want to draw attention to the disabled function hoping they'll go an enable it?
10:49 Joubu        the button is hidden if the ft is disabled
10:49 Joubu        but they can still display the column
10:49 Joubu        best would be to not have this option, but it's more work
10:49 ashimema     I see.. ok
10:50 ashimema     in which case "This feature is disabled" seems best to me
10:50 tuxayo       Thanks for the feedback folks :)
10:52 Joubu        Explaining how to turn it on makes sense to me
10:54 ashimema     are these translatable?
10:54 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25583: Improve wording <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cae0ef76f398bb3d9f60235ff10611cc8d8eacb7>
10:54 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 12430: Fix Search.t failure <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a37ba7903d6e7c18b2e2f8d9e145936b0dc8b938>
10:54 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 12430: Fix selenium/regressions.t failure <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48e74cebedea733e0a6528cd275c1b2925ff46bd>
10:54 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27142: Don't interpolate batch_type variable <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b62806a979fea789661b3d85113b57dbff0e62d>
10:54 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 26905: Purchase suggestion button hidden for users with suggestion permission... <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30acf1a9884b98b5e7e965fc057aa632cd781f8f>
10:54 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25583: Disable the "claim returned" button if the feature is disabled <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ae3981d3c881bbbd136015ae94e91961236d15e>
10:54 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24658: (bug 22008 follow-up) Correct update DB entry 18.12.00.031 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb0a659684a70204c1922675df18efca257bddd9>
10:54 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 26946: Set maxlength for cash register name <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=012229c5ea77a009dc708db4370bf499e48dad01>
10:54 ashimema     explaining how to enable it would be nice
10:57 Joubu        yes, titles are translatable
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11:45 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:45 wahanui      Congratulations!
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11:45 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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12:55 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:55 wahanui      Congratulations!
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13:32 SeverityOne  Hi, I was hoping somebody could help me. We (the company I work for) are installing Koha for a client. The client wants field 260 (publlisher info) to be an authority controlled field. What I've done is modify the BKS framework so that 260$a is a GEOGR_NAME and 260$n os a CORPO_NAME, but it's not quire working as expected. If I choose to edit 260$b with the authority search, it's filled in in field 260$a.
13:34 SeverityOne  Sorry, I meant 260$b and not 260$n. Typo.
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13:49 cait         tcohen: around?
14:20 henryb       Hi koha <<insert time-zone appropriate greeting>>
14:22 caroline     hi henryb!
14:22 henryb       Probably a very stupid question but are the  "xmlns:str="http://exslt.org/strings"" attributes on the OPAC necessary?
14:23 henryb       hi caroline!
14:23 henryb       Just wondering because html validators don't seem to like them
14:23 henryb       And I live off validation
14:24 henryb       (That was a bad joke that didn't really work)
14:24 henryb       But I'm serious about the question
14:28 cait1        es they are necessary
14:28 * ashimema   looks up when and why they were added
14:28 cait1        hm at least in the xslt
14:28 cait1        maybe i am thinking about something else
14:28 cait1        ignore that comment, necessary in the xslt for the uri-encode - no idea about the opac
14:29 cait1        as in they shoudl not be output from the xslt there
14:29 * cait1      goes back to a big pile of mail in her inbox
14:29 ashimema     `str:encode-uri(marc:subfield[@code='u'], true())`
14:29 ashimema     they're used for that
14:29 ashimema     i.e they properly encode uri strings for security
14:30 ashimema     bug 14441 for some detail
14:30 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14441 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, CLOSED FIXED, TrackClicks cuts off/breaks URLs
14:30 ashimema     not exactly security actually
14:30 ashimema     more getting things to work
14:31 Joubu        oleonard: did you see that bug 3766 introduced a regression? see bug 26436
14:31 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Cities/Towns only on one address
14:31 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26436 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Quick add patron will not copy over details from cities and towns pull down into patron details
14:31 Joubu        that's an ugly one to fix
14:31 henryb       Thanks ashimema  and cait1
14:31 henryb       ashimema++
14:31 ashimema     what validator are you using henryb ?
14:31 henryb       cait1++
14:32 henryb       Just the W3c one: https://validator.w3.org/
14:32 henryb       But we've got an automated accessibility checker at work and it keeps complaining that our pages aren't valid html
14:33 henryb       *wonders how much karma all the various cait, cait1 etc have
14:33 ashimema     detail, search results or both?
14:33 henryb       Search results mainly I think
14:35 ashimema     got a link to a validator result page that shows it?
14:35 ashimema     I'm really surprised we're leaking any xslt through to the end..
14:35 Joubu        I don't understand henryb, the xslt code should not be display in the html
14:35 Joubu        yes, what ashimema said
14:35 ashimema     what he said.
14:35 Joubu        lol
14:36 ashimema     OK, that's weird
14:36 ashimema     inspect a title link in a search result Joubu
14:36 ashimema     it's there..
14:36 ashimema     inside the href
14:36 ashimema     or rather.. inside the anchor
14:37 Joubu        I don't see it
14:37 ashimema     http://mrdev-zebra.koha-ptfs.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=spin&branch_group_limit=&weight_search=1
14:38 ashimema     that's on master
14:38 ashimema     I see `<a xmlns:str="http://exslt.org/strings"` all over the place
14:38 Joubu        ha, the OPAC
14:38 Joubu        I see it now
14:38 ashimema     no idea why you'ce have that as an attribute to an anchor
14:39 ashimema     or paragraphs for that matter.. seems to come out there too
14:40 Joubu        sounds like a bug
14:41 henryb       Ok, thanks for looking! Glad I'm not the only person who can see this. I'll file a bug
14:41 * ashimema   doesn't like the output of the w3c validator
14:41 ashimema     it doesn't tell you why something isn't allowed or give you any clues
14:43 magnuse      @karma cait
14:43 huginn       magnuse: Karma for "cait" has been increased 836 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 836.
14:43 magnuse      @karma cait1
14:43 huginn       magnuse: Karma for "cait1" has been increased 21 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 21.
14:43 magnuse      @karma cait2
14:43 huginn       magnuse: cait2 has neutral karma.
14:43 magnuse      cait++
14:53 henryb       Ooh interesting! Thanks magnuse
14:53 henryb       I have filed a bug for the xslt string thing 27178
14:54 henryb       bug 27178
14:54 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27178 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC results and lists pages contain invalid attributes (xmlns:str="http://exslt.org/strings")
15:00 Joubu        henryb: thanks. I think it's not coming from us however
15:01 Joubu        that might be a bug in this xslt namespace
15:16 henryb       Ah I see. So we can't fix it?
15:17 ashimema     we should investigate it and confirm that.. and if it's the case report it upstream to the libraries we use
16:35 reiveune     bye
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21:38 koha-jenkins andrew: Bug 26944: Point help link to automatic item mod in manual
21:38 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26944 minor, P5 - low, ---, andrew, Pushed to oldstable , Help link from automatic item modification by age should go to the relevant part of the manual
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