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in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/141/ 19:51 tuxayo «error: index-pack died of signal 15» 19:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D8 build #34: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D8/34/ 19:49 tuxayo AndrewFH: unlikely related to your work 19:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D8 build #33: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D8/33/ 19:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D8 build #32: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D8/32/ 19:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #136: STILL UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/136/ 19:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D8 build #31: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D8/31/ 19:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26988 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to oldstable , Defer loading the hold pickup locations until the dropdown is selected 19:09 koha-jenkins tcohen: Bug 26988: (QA follow-up) Unit tests 19:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #44: NOW UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U2010/44/ 19:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #148: NOW UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/148/ 19:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #139: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/139/ 19:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #143: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/143/ 18:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #84: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/84/ 18:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D8 build #30: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D8/30/ 18:41 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 18:41 huginn AndrewFH: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 18:41 AndrewFH @tuxayo @mtj @Joubu anyone around to look at this Jenkins error I created on my first push as rmaint? 18:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #140: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/140/ 18:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #138: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/138/ 18:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #83: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/83/ 18:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D8 build #29: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D8/29/ 18:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #174: UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/174/ 18:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #135: UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/135/ 18:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #139: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/139/ 18:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #142: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/142/ 18:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #43: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U2010/43/ 17:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #147: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/147/ 17:55 KotH and the root cause of the problem is a missing <log4perl_conf>/etc/koha/sites/$SITE/log4perl.conf</log4perl_conf> in koha-conf.xml. apparently the debian package adds the log4perl config file but forgets to add it to the global config 17:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #82: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/82/ 17:40 KotH see https://pastebin.com/BLdekBze for a stack trace 17:38 KotH this looks very much like it should be "unless defined $config" 17:38 KotH could it be that the check in said line is wrong: $data = config_read($config) unless defined $data; 17:38 KotH it seems like config_read() is called with an undefined variable in Log4perl/Config.pm line 147 17:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D8 build #28: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D8/28/ 17:37 KotH I get a Configuration not defined at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Config.pm line 579. when trying to add an item 17:37 KotH good evening! 17:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #138: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/138/ 17:31 tuxayo Good news, it will be easier to expand the coverage with two other people that can review 17:21 ashimema I'd encourage more.. 17:20 ashimema Tomas and I write some 17:19 tuxayo Good thing I have Jonathan providing QA feedback. Does anyone know who else writes UI tests? So in the future I won't always have to rely on Jonathan for reviews. 17:19 reiveune bye 17:14 ashimema That's a good one to test 17:14 tuxayo Using Firefox 47 for automated test is quite an issue. I'm keen to write more UI tests but this update needs to be done first. 17:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27055 major, P5 - low, ---, victor, Needs Signoff , Update Firefox version used in Selenium GUI tests 17:12 tuxayo Hi again :) If someone using Koha testing docker wants to do an easy signoff (change config and run tests) bug 27055 is for you ;) 17:04 domm ah, I see I can choose a plugin for each MARC21 field in the Tag editor (Administration › MARC frameworks › BKS framework structure › Tag 000 subfield structure › Edit subfields constraints) 16:30 domm like via some plugin system or a config entry? 16:30 domm Can I somehow override / adapt / change cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_005.pl 15:48 caroline Can someone read it and tell me what it does? (like changes to uppercase, removes spaces, etc) 15:46 caroline I need a dev's help for documentation... I'm updating this section of the manual https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/administration.html#classification-sources which is ... let's say lacking... For the filing rules, Koha's dev's did a great job in the comments ecxplaining what C4/ClassSortRoutine/Dewey.pm and Generic.pm do but LCC is a perl library and I can't figure out what it does 15:39 fridolin you can create new in Koha plugins 15:38 fridolin real API il /api/v1/ 15:38 fridolin check execution permission first 15:38 fridolin it reguolar perl CGI 15:38 fridolin ivandz: oh opac/svc/ is not a 'real' API 15:38 fridolin piouf what a mess 15:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27164 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Fix item search CSV export 15:37 fridolin Bug 27164 15:07 tuxayo there are various and the one for the API is separate 15:07 tuxayo ivandz: hi :) which logfile did you check? 14:54 ivandz I created my own file (API) opac/svc/..pl, but when I do GET to this file, I see always a 500 Internal Server Error. I don't have problems in my log. Why? 14:51 ivandz Hello! 14:33 caroline drago and drop would be nice 14:32 oleonard Drag-and-drop reordering was on the menu, fwiw 14:32 * ashimema doesn't think he has the brains today to update this modal.. the code is too random in here 14:32 ashimema mmm, 14:31 caroline but the drop-down on the left and the arrowns on the left do the same thing afaik 14:31 clrh oups hello 14:31 clrh .4 14:31 caroline no I get why the arrows on the left and right (the arrown on the right is dangerous, it has to be separated) 14:30 ashimema but if it does.. perhaps it should have a different icon entirely. 14:30 ashimema maybe 'toggle lowest priority' does something different to 'move to bottom' ? 14:30 ashimema dropdowns, arrows on the left and arrows on the right you mean ;) 14:29 caroline I don't see the use of have the drop-downs AND the arrows though 14:29 ashimema fair enough 14:29 ashimema lol 14:29 caroline Kind of, but I'm used to it (I mean, I have to show it at every training and there are much more frustrating things in Koha than this) 14:28 ashimema or am I just going a little mad 14:28 ashimema do you agree the UX here is just plain weird? 14:28 caroline weird... 14:27 ashimema interesting.. I can't use the dropdowns.. they're greyed out too 14:27 caroline ashimema: The only time I've used the button 'Update hold(s)' is when I change the priority using the drop-down instead of the arrows 14:24 ashimema fair enough 14:24 oleonard I was reluctant to make incremental changes to the form since an API conversion would touch every aspect of it. 14:24 ashimema okies 14:23 oleonard No idea. 14:21 ashimema there's a JS hidden 'cancellation reason' select box under the 'Update hold(s)' button.. any idea how that is ever exposed? 14:20 ashimema it's a weird mix of flows at the minute 14:20 ashimema just making it more consistent 14:20 ashimema even without updating it to full on API I'm sure we could do better 14:19 ashimema it's a mess 14:19 oleonard Was waiting on his DataTables API stuff 14:19 ashimema :) 14:19 oleonard I've taken a crack at it but never really got anywhere 14:19 oleonard ashimema tcohen and I have talked about updating that table to use the API for many months now 14:00 ashimema but they do flash up on page load before dissapearing again 14:00 ashimema there's some weirdly hidden forms in there too.. which I can't for the life of me work out how to trigger them 13:59 ashimema but changing date, expiration and pickup library I 'think' require you to click the 'Update hold(s)' button above the table? 13:59 ashimema changing priorities, cancelling and suspending are inline actions in the table(s) 13:58 ashimema frankly.. I find that page really funky and odd 13:58 ashimema I 'think' it is only used when you change the pickup location 13:58 ashimema biblio page, holds tab 13:57 caroline ashimema: where is that button? user's file or holds lists? 13:34 * ashimema is trying to understand what the 'Update hold(s)' button does.. it's really unclear from the UI 13:33 ashimema anyone here familiar with holds and the cancellation flows? 13:17 domm tuxayo: ok, so I'll wait a bit if anybody comments here, and if not, send a mail... 13:10 tuxayo domm: hi :) here can be a good place, it depend on the moment and who is around. Otherwise it's the Developers List https://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 13:03 magnuse s/bath decord/batch record/ 12:51 magnuse same lack of results for "Update existing or add new" 12:51 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "batch_record_modification" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26425 12:50 magnuse anyone else having trouble with bath decord modification and marc modification templates? i'm trying to do "Add new field 942$c with value Y if 952$c matches X" but no 942 is added to the record. there are some errors in the apache log 12:43 domm And if there is better place to discuss this than IRC (mailing list? bugzilla?), please point me to it. 12:43 domm And if you prefere a JavaScript solution, or something actually happening in the Perl backend. 12:43 domm I'm not sure if we should implement this in Koha itself (cataloguing/addbiblio.pl and cataloguing/value_builder/) or via a plugin. 12:43 domm AFAIK Mark Hofstätter discussed our (very rough) plan here? 12:43 domm Currently users get an alert containing missing fields, and after closing the alert the defaults are prefilled. 12:43 domm We are thinking of adding functionality to either prefill some fields (000, 004, 005) on load, or before the submit. 12:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27146 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , add pluggability to save/store on add/edit bibliographic data 12:43 domm We are currently looking into fixing/implementing bug 27146 (prefill/autogenerate values). Currently we can use the value_builder plugins to create a value when a user focuses a field. But users still need to click/tab through all the fields. 11:46 ashimema I'll have a punt 11:46 ashimema that could still work 11:46 ashimema oh.. hang on.. it's 'Confirm and return' OR 'Confirm' depending on a param 11:45 ashimema I've not spotted we already have a 'Confirm' and 'Confirm and return to' option on one of the modal 11:45 ashimema further to that.. at what point would you say we cross into 'too many button options' territory 11:45 ashimema coolios.. that's what I thought 11:44 oleonard And we have other instances of "confirm and notify" so it won't look weird 11:43 oleonard Off the top of my head I'd say buttons for everything. Checkboxes are so fiddly. 11:42 ashimema wanted your thoughts on "Checkbox for notify" vs "Confirm/Confirm and notify/Cancel" buttons 11:42 oleonard Sure 11:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold 11:42 ashimema I'm resurrecting bug 26282 11:41 ashimema got a moment for some UX thoughts? 11:41 oleonard Kinda! 11:41 ashimema oleonard around? 10:28 fridolin whoo 09:56 ashimema https://koha-community.gitlab.io/KohaAdvent/2020-12-08-translate-plugin/ 09:56 ashimema Joubu++ #KohaAdvent 08:54 ashimema sorry, ISO 639.. and if we do.. do we stick to a particular version? 08:54 ashimema do we stick fo ISO 359 ? 08:53 ashimema our translations system.. what 'language codes' do we use.. 08:53 ashimema OK.. silly question 08:47 magnuse \o/ 08:37 wahanui nlegrand: sorry... 08:37 nlegrand wahanui: calire taught me how to speak proper english 08:37 wahanui nlegrand: huh? 08:37 nlegrand wahanui: a good day sir 08:37 wahanui hi, nlegrand 08:37 nlegrand bonjour 08:36 ashimema good morning 'koha 07:39 reiveune hello 07:24 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 07:24 alex_a Bonjour