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23:08 dcook        Maybe it'll mean more Koha users on Debian/Ubuntu heh
23:08 dcook        Well this is fun: https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
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20:15 tuxayo       Meh, multiple issues
20:15 tuxayo       > stderr: error: failed to write new configuration file /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_20.05_D8/.git/config.lock
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19:55 tuxayo       AndrewFH: That's why the CI is here for ^^ to catch that
19:54 AndrewFH     Thanks, @tuxayo, happy I've created an instability rather than a failure :P I'll bug kyle and nick about that issue
19:53 tuxayo       AndrewFH: however, for the builds that don't crash, the failure on t/db_dependent/api/v1/holds.t looks legit.
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19:51 tuxayo       «error: index-pack died of signal 15»
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19:49 tuxayo       AndrewFH: unlikely related to your work
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19:09 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26988 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to oldstable , Defer loading the hold pickup locations until the dropdown is selected
19:09 koha-jenkins tcohen: Bug 26988: (QA follow-up) Unit tests
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18:41 wahanui      i already had it that way, huginn.
18:41 huginn       AndrewFH: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
18:41 AndrewFH     @tuxayo @mtj @Joubu anyone around to look at this Jenkins error I created on my first push as rmaint?
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17:55 KotH         and the root cause of the problem is a missing <log4perl_conf>/etc/koha/sites/$SITE/log4perl.conf</log4perl_conf>  in koha-conf.xml. apparently the debian package adds the log4perl config file but forgets to add it to the global config
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17:40 KotH         see https://pastebin.com/BLdekBze for a stack trace
17:38 KotH         this looks very much like it should be "unless defined $config"
17:38 KotH         could it be that the check in said line is wrong: $data = config_read($config) unless defined $data;
17:38 KotH         it seems like config_read() is called with an undefined variable in Log4perl/Config.pm line 147
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17:37 KotH         I get a Configuration not defined at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Config.pm line 579. when trying to add an item
17:37 KotH         good evening!
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17:31 tuxayo       Good news, it will be easier to expand the coverage with two other people that can review
17:21 ashimema     I'd encourage more..
17:20 ashimema     Tomas and I write some
17:19 tuxayo       Good thing I have Jonathan providing QA feedback. Does anyone know who else writes UI tests? So in the future I won't always have to rely on Jonathan for reviews.
17:19 reiveune     bye
17:14 ashimema     That's a good one to test
17:14 tuxayo       Using Firefox 47 for automated test is quite an issue. I'm keen to write more UI tests but this update needs to be done first.
17:12 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27055 major, P5 - low, ---, victor, Needs Signoff , Update Firefox version used in Selenium GUI tests
17:12 tuxayo       Hi again :) If someone using Koha testing docker wants to do an easy signoff (change config and run tests) bug 27055 is for you ;)
17:04 domm         ah, I see I can choose a plugin for each MARC21 field in the Tag editor (Administration › MARC frameworks › BKS framework structure › Tag 000 subfield structure › Edit subfields constraints)
16:30 domm         like via some plugin system or a config entry?
16:30 domm         Can I somehow override / adapt / change cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_005.pl
15:48 caroline     Can someone read it and tell me what it does? (like changes to uppercase, removes spaces, etc)
15:46 caroline     I need a dev's help for documentation...  I'm updating this section of the manual https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/administration.html#classification-sources which is ... let's say lacking... For the filing rules, Koha's dev's did a great job in the comments ecxplaining what C4/ClassSortRoutine/Dewey.pm and Generic.pm do but LCC is a perl library and I can't figure out what it does
15:39 fridolin     you can create new in Koha plugins
15:38 fridolin     real API il /api/v1/
15:38 fridolin     check execution permission first
15:38 fridolin     it reguolar perl CGI
15:38 fridolin     ivandz: oh opac/svc/ is not a 'real' API
15:38 fridolin     piouf what a mess
15:37 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27164 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Fix item search CSV export
15:37 fridolin     Bug 27164
15:07 tuxayo       there are various and the one for the API is separate
15:07 tuxayo       ivandz: hi :) which logfile did you check?
14:54 ivandz       I created my own file (API) opac/svc/..pl, but when I do GET to this file, I see always a 500 Internal Server Error. I don't have problems in my log. Why?
14:51 ivandz       Hello!
14:33 caroline     drago and drop would be nice
14:32 oleonard     Drag-and-drop reordering was on the menu, fwiw
14:32 * ashimema   doesn't think he has the brains today to update this modal.. the code is too random in here
14:32 ashimema     mmm,
14:31 caroline     but the drop-down on the left and the arrowns on the left do the same thing afaik
14:31 clrh         oups hello
14:31 clrh         .4
14:31 caroline     no I get why the arrows on the left and right (the arrown on the right is dangerous, it has to be separated)
14:30 ashimema     but if it does.. perhaps it should have a different icon entirely.
14:30 ashimema     maybe 'toggle lowest priority' does something different to 'move to bottom' ?
14:30 ashimema     dropdowns, arrows on the left and arrows on the right you mean ;)
14:29 caroline     I don't see the use of have the drop-downs AND the arrows though
14:29 ashimema     fair enough
14:29 ashimema     lol
14:29 caroline     Kind of, but I'm used to it (I mean, I have to show it at every training and there are much more frustrating things in Koha than this)
14:28 ashimema     or am I just going a little mad
14:28 ashimema     do you agree the UX here is just plain weird?
14:28 caroline     weird...
14:27 ashimema     interesting.. I can't use the dropdowns.. they're greyed out too
14:27 caroline     ashimema: The only time I've used the button 'Update hold(s)' is when I change the priority using the drop-down instead of the arrows
14:24 ashimema     fair enough
14:24 oleonard     I was reluctant to make incremental changes to the form since an API conversion would touch every aspect of it.
14:24 ashimema     okies
14:23 oleonard     No idea.
14:21 ashimema     there's a JS hidden 'cancellation reason' select box under the 'Update hold(s)' button.. any idea how that is ever exposed?
14:20 ashimema     it's a weird mix of flows at the minute
14:20 ashimema     just making it more consistent
14:20 ashimema     even without updating it to full on API I'm sure we could do better
14:19 ashimema     it's a mess
14:19 oleonard     Was waiting on his DataTables API stuff
14:19 ashimema     :)
14:19 oleonard     I've taken a crack at it but never really got anywhere
14:19 oleonard     ashimema tcohen and I have talked about updating that table to use the API for many months now
14:00 ashimema     but they do flash up on page load before dissapearing again
14:00 ashimema     there's some weirdly hidden forms in there too.. which I can't for the life of me work out how to trigger them
13:59 ashimema     but changing date, expiration and pickup library I 'think' require you to click the 'Update hold(s)' button above the table?
13:59 ashimema     changing priorities, cancelling and suspending are inline actions in the table(s)
13:58 ashimema     frankly.. I find that page really funky and odd
13:58 ashimema     I 'think' it is only used when you change the pickup location
13:58 ashimema     biblio page, holds tab
13:57 caroline     ashimema: where is that button? user's file or holds lists?
13:34 * ashimema   is trying to understand what the 'Update hold(s)' button does.. it's really unclear from the UI
13:33 ashimema     anyone here familiar with holds and the cancellation flows?
13:17 domm         tuxayo: ok, so I'll wait a bit if anybody comments here, and if not, send a mail...
13:10 tuxayo       domm: hi :) here can be a good place, it depend on the moment and who is around. Otherwise it's the Developers List https://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
13:03 magnuse      s/bath decord/batch record/
12:51 magnuse      same lack of results for "Update existing or add new"
12:51 pastebot     "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "batch_record_modification" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26425
12:50 magnuse      anyone else having trouble with bath decord modification and marc modification templates? i'm trying to do "Add new field 942$c with value Y if 952$c matches X" but no 942 is added to the record. there are some errors in the apache log
12:43 domm         And if there is better place to discuss this than IRC (mailing list? bugzilla?), please point me to it.
12:43 domm         And if you prefere a JavaScript solution, or something actually happening in the Perl backend.
12:43 domm         I'm not sure if we should implement this in Koha itself (cataloguing/addbiblio.pl and cataloguing/value_builder/) or via a plugin.
12:43 domm         AFAIK Mark Hofstätter discussed our (very rough) plan here?
12:43 domm         Currently users get an alert containing missing fields, and after closing the alert the defaults are prefilled.
12:43 domm         We are thinking of adding functionality to either prefill some fields (000, 004, 005) on load, or before the submit.
12:43 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27146 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , add pluggability to save/store on add/edit bibliographic data
12:43 domm         We are currently looking into fixing/implementing bug 27146 (prefill/autogenerate values). Currently we can use the value_builder plugins to create a value when a user focuses a field. But users still need to click/tab through all the fields.
11:46 ashimema     I'll have a punt
11:46 ashimema     that could still work
11:46 ashimema     oh.. hang on.. it's 'Confirm and return' OR 'Confirm' depending on a param
11:45 ashimema     I've not spotted we already have a 'Confirm' and 'Confirm and return to' option on one of the modal
11:45 ashimema     further to that.. at what point would you say we cross into 'too many button options' territory
11:45 ashimema     coolios.. that's what I thought
11:44 oleonard     And we have other instances of "confirm and notify" so it won't look weird
11:43 oleonard     Off the top of my head I'd say buttons for everything. Checkboxes are so fiddly.
11:42 ashimema     wanted your thoughts on "Checkbox for notify" vs "Confirm/Confirm and notify/Cancel" buttons
11:42 oleonard     Sure
11:42 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold
11:42 ashimema     I'm resurrecting bug 26282
11:41 ashimema     got a moment for some UX thoughts?
11:41 oleonard     Kinda!
11:41 ashimema     oleonard around?
10:28 fridolin     whoo
09:56 ashimema     https://koha-community.gitlab.io/KohaAdvent/2020-12-08-translate-plugin/
09:56 ashimema     Joubu++ #KohaAdvent
08:54 ashimema     sorry, ISO 639.. and if we do.. do we stick to a particular version?
08:54 ashimema     do we stick fo ISO 359 ?
08:53 ashimema     our translations system.. what 'language codes' do we use..
08:53 ashimema     OK.. silly question
08:47 magnuse      \o/
08:37 wahanui      nlegrand: sorry...
08:37 nlegrand     wahanui: calire taught me how to speak proper english
08:37 wahanui      nlegrand: huh?
08:37 nlegrand     wahanui: a good day sir
08:37 wahanui      hi, nlegrand
08:37 nlegrand     bonjour
08:36 ashimema     good morning 'koha
07:39 reiveune     hello
07:24 wahanui      kia ora, alex_a
07:24 alex_a       Bonjour