Time Nick Message 21:40 * ashimema slinks off to bed 21:39 ashimema we noticed bulkmarcimport has got slower with recent releases caroline 19:34 tuxayo For the screen reader use case at least. 19:34 tuxayo Pretty sure that yes. It's one the of most told things about accessibility 19:34 tuxayo > aria-friendly even? 18:43 caroline I started an import of 136000 records yesterday (!!) and it's still running... I don't remember it ever being this long before 18:43 caroline has anyone noticed if bulkmarcimport is slower in 20.05 va 19.05? 18:35 tcohen aria-friendly even? 18:35 tcohen is using alt="description" translatable in Koha? 17:09 tuxayo ashimema: «does it only now work with that one?» I just tried with two and the other one worked 16:53 ashimema I'm not sure I understand how it works.. I should remind myself what states got is in at the time preapplypatch runs 16:52 ashimema Does it only not work on that one..m wonder why 16:52 ashimema Huh 16:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27044 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Deprecate core support for PayPal payments 16:50 tuxayo ashimema: shall I remove the section or add a warning? «Currently broken when applying bug 27044 for example. Needs adaptation.» 16:42 ashimema interesting 16:41 tuxayo Indeed the same code works as a pre-commit hook 16:39 ashimema well.. broke it for pre-applypatch 16:39 ashimema wouldn't be surprised if I broke it. 16:38 ashimema I re-worked the pre-commit hook a fair bit a while ago 16:38 ashimema haha 16:38 ashimema I had never noticed the line about pre-applypatch on tips and tricks 16:38 ashimema interesting 16:38 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Tips_and_tricks#pre-applypatch 16:38 tuxayo «The pre-commit hook can also be useful as a pre-applypatch hook to catch issues with others bugs when applying via either `git am` or `git bz`. » 16:36 * ashimema doesn't have a pre-apply hook 16:36 ashimema that would make some sense 16:35 ashimema could be 16:35 tuxayo I enabled it yesterday 16:35 ashimema hmm 16:35 tuxayo It might be the pre apply hook 16:35 ashimema that is very strange 16:35 tuxayo ashimema: I know! 16:34 tuxayo it's like it's trying to execute the patched file :o 16:33 tuxayo BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at about.pl 16:33 ashimema git-bz is python 16:33 ashimema it's weird that git-bz is the issue 16:32 tuxayo I always used git-bz in the host system 16:32 tuxayo wut 16:32 ashimema did perl5lib go awol somehow? 16:32 tuxayo ok now it asks for a Koha thing 16:31 tuxayo Can't locate C4/Output.pm 16:29 ashimema er.. that's weird 16:27 tuxayo It even asks for Search/Elasticsearch.pm when I'm just doing an apply :o 16:27 tuxayo hm, git bz suddenly asks for a ton of perl deps even though nothing perl related or git bz was updated 16:26 tuxayo caroline: that's a sad story :( 16:22 ashimema any of the cait (s) around 16:13 caroline historically the two people have always been opposed (since colonization, but even before in europe i guess) 16:13 caroline its a thing in canada unfortunatelym the anglophones don't like the francophones (esp. quebec fracophones) and francophones don't lkike the anglophones 16:12 tuxayo ^^ 16:12 caroline lol! 16:12 ashimema us english are horrible people :S 16:11 ashimema understandable 16:11 ashimema I see 16:11 caroline some people here get insulted if things are in English (historic thing) so I really need to translate stuff asap :) 16:11 ashimema hugs 16:11 ashimema :) 16:10 ashimema in both opac and staff 16:10 caroline ok thanks! 16:10 ashimema the strings should be coming from /inc/accounts.inc 16:10 ashimema correct 16:10 caroline ok, so if in debit_types.pl I see them in english, it means my .po file in incomplete 16:10 ashimema you, in fact, signed off one of the patches that did that template stuff for translations caroline :) 16:09 ashimema they're coming from a template include 16:09 ashimema as the user facing strings are not coming from the database for those.. 16:09 ashimema right.. so I those actually don't count 16:09 ashimema they need sql files still 16:09 ashimema like changing syspref defaults for your locality 16:08 ashimema unless you had some additional customisations that were beyond translations and were 'localisations' instead.. 16:08 caroline asking specifically for account_credit_types.sql and account_debit_types.sql which are in installer/data/mysql/mandatory, but are in english 16:08 ashimema you shouldn't.. the strings should all now be in pootle 16:08 ashimema "It depends" 16:08 caroline do we still have to submit language specific sql? 16:07 caroline what's up with the sql/yml files for translation? 15:57 * tcohen will check what it says if the credentials are wrong, just in case haha 15:56 Joubu with the comment it's perfect imo 15:56 Joubu tcohen: yes, read better 15:54 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: settled" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26210 15:38 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26209 15:30 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: we've got something already, to work with" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26208 15:00 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:00 Joubu @later tell oleonard did you see my comment on bug 26465? 14:15 ashimema thanks kidclamp :) 14:00 Joubu thx kidclamp 13:59 kidclamp followup added 13:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Pushed to master , Koha should support "seen" vs "unseen" renewals 13:58 kidclamp Joubu: bug 24083 13:04 mtj but i do see your point about it failing on slower systems, still.. i can offer a better patch 13:03 mtj Joubu: i thought it was a timing problem, that could be fixed with a sleep 12:59 Joubu mtj: why do you think it could fix the failing tests? 12:58 Joubu sleep() in tests always proved it was a bad idea 12:40 tuxayo +1 12:35 mtj ..then we can still retain the other 88 reliable tests 12:34 mtj re 26031, there seems to be only 4 tests that fail randomly - so another option would be to just remove those 4 problematic tests 12:29 mtj the failing test has no risk, so it presents no danger :) 12:27 oleonard I mean, if you don't want to live dangerously. 12:27 mtj oleonard: no, most patches can be tested without being pushed 12:24 oleonard mtj: So just like every other patch? 12:24 mtj Joubu, re 26031, theres only one way to find out if the patch works - push it and see what happens :) 12:21 magnuse \o/ 12:05 mtj hi folks 11:40 tuxayo hi #koha o/ 11:38 oleonard o/ 11:13 Joubu ok, thanks for the confirmation! 11:12 kidclamp semantics, yes 11:12 Joubu kidclamp: highest you mean? 11:12 Joubu highest you mean? 11:06 kidclamp joubu: the cases where libraries have lowest priority greater than 1 seem to be very rare, and usually have reasons (suspended holds, holds in future, missing items) so I think that is the right way forward 10:54 ashimema connection times out for me now on translate 10:54 ashimema hmm 10:37 tcohen it is working now, right? 10:36 Joubu tcohen: we are experiencing network issues apparently 10:32 ashimema thats good to know, thanks tcohen 10:32 tcohen that server only hosts the communty translation stuff 10:31 tcohen reboot the server if it is not running any process 10:31 ashimema interesting 10:30 tcohen bgkriegel told me he couldn't find the apache problems cause 10:30 wahanui hello, tcohen 10:30 tcohen bonjour 09:49 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:49 Joubu @later tell kidclamp could you have a look at bug 24488 comment 93? 09:42 ashimema no idea how long any of them take.. wouldn't be at all surprised if they overlap 09:42 ashimema there are three scripts that run one after the other at 0:15, 1:15 and 2:15 respectively 09:41 ashimema not that I can see.. but it might be buried in a script 09:34 cait1 or even intentional to wait until finished? 09:34 cait1 maybe the apache problem is related to updating the po files 09:33 cait1 I see new strings on pootle 09:14 Joubu testing if the mysql server is reachable?..... 09:10 ashimema seems an odd thing to see in the chron 09:10 ashimema any idea what this does? */5 * * * * mysql test -e "update fecha set fecha =now();" 09:10 ashimema er.. 09:09 cait1 not that we interrupt update processes 09:09 cait1 can you check if jobs are running or so? 09:08 ashimema the server is asking for a restart and update upon login anyway.. that's something I'll defer to bernardo anyway.. bit rude to go ahead and reboot someone elses server.. haha. 09:07 kohaputti so that will make it definitely sluggish ssh experience 09:06 ashimema I'll ask bernardo to take a more detailed look.. he has a team of ops at the uni who look after it as infrastructure I believe 09:06 kohaputti it is 500ms ping from finland to the server 09:06 ashimema so yeah.. something funky is going on 09:06 ashimema any and all commands take seconds to respond.. one's I'd normally expect to be pretty much instant 09:05 ashimema I am suspecting network.. my ssh terminal is sluggish.. I type something and it take a second or two to actually appear 09:05 ashimema indeed 09:05 kohaputti the network could be satured maybe.. lots of possible causes :P 09:04 ashimema dmesg not really reporting anything either.. a few firewall blocks but not so many that I'd worry 09:04 ashimema so all the obvious look OK. 09:04 ashimema yup.. 09:04 * ashimema sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/EBABMOMhXgbaeTqTNbsmjnlb/message.txt > 09:04 Joubu it still times out for me 09:04 ashimema but then I don't know what else the server is really used for 09:04 ashimema ther's a java process running elastic on here.. which surprised me 09:04 kohaputti and enough of disk space? The Koha jenkins server we hosted was sluggish because of one partition getting full. 09:03 ashimema Swap: 952M 192M 760M 09:03 ashimema Mem: 7.8G 2.3G 226M 23M 5.2G 5.1G 09:03 ashimema total used free shared buff/cache available 09:02 kohaputti did you check dmesg for hw problems 09:02 kohaputti ashimema, how's the ram/swap? 09:01 ashimema wierdly though.. nothing stands out in top 09:01 ashimema but the system feels very sluggish 09:01 ashimema I managed to ssh in 09:01 Joubu I've tried to ssh few minutes ago but it was not working 09:00 ashimema indeed 08:59 kohaputti everybody getting prepared for 20.11 08:56 ashimema the system seems very slow today 08:55 kohaputti ok, I have no idea either because I don't use pootle that much 08:55 ashimema I've not been tracking it all that closely 08:55 ashimema not sure to be honest 08:55 kohaputti do you know if it happens every day or just once a week or randomly? 08:54 ashimema it's a bit odd.. I've not worked out why yet 08:54 kohaputti strange 08:54 ashimema yup 08:53 kohaputti restarting apache fixes this? 08:53 ashimema at elast today I could get in to reset apache 08:53 ashimema things went wrong badly yesterday for a while and neither of us could ssh into it either 08:53 ashimema weird.. I think the server may need a bit more maintanence 08:53 kohaputti thanks :) 08:53 ashimema should be back now 08:53 kohaputti works again 08:49 kohaputti ashimema, https://translate.koha-community.org/ down 08:37 Chugeistr fair enough =) apparently there isn't any. But I've found their mailing list. Thanks. 08:32 cait1 i think if there is it's probably listed on their website too 08:32 cait1 Chugeistr: sorry, I don't know, have you checked is there is a marcedit room maybe? 08:31 Chugeistr Hi everybody. Is there an IRC channel dedicated to MarcEdit by any chance? 08:29 cait1 and good morning #koha 08:29 cait1 looks like translate is down agaon 07:53 TimothyAlexis Ok I see, thank you. 07:52 magnuse as long as it is a bug (not enh), the rmaint should then backport it to 20.05.x and make it part of a future minor version 07:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9565 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Deleting a biblio should alert/fail if there are existent subscriptions 07:51 TimothyAlexis I added a patch to bug 9565 for master and we have 20.05.03. 07:49 magnuse at least that is how i would describe things, based on my experience .-) 07:49 magnuse if there is one you need backported i'm sure the rmaints won't mind if you backport it for them. it is up to them to include it or not, though 07:48 magnuse the rmaints backport the patches they deem necessary, if it is overly difficult, they might ask the patch writer to do a patch specific to "their" version 07:47 magnuse ah, my pleasure 07:47 magnuse huh? 07:47 TimothyAlexis Thank you for the code reference yesterday. 07:47 TimothyAlexis magnuse++ 07:46 magnuse \o/ 07:46 TimothyAlexis How does the backporting of patches work? Can I backport any patch? 07:39 alex_a Bonjour 06:48 Vihaan any one ther? 06:22 Vihaan hey can you help me to change the cronjob time of process_message_queue.pl from 15 min. to 1 min 03:06 dcook Ah coool. Sounds good. 03:04 mtj https://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=pb-master/.git;a=commitdiff;h=623e187f2527f616ab6f9649423a5c67e7e82ef5 03:04 dcook Oohhh Joubu's saying git move next Monday. Excitement! 03:04 mtj my packages are built from here .. -> https://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=pb-master/.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/koha-core7 03:03 dcook Or is bug 26672 irrelevant? 03:03 dcook Oh I gues I did include two different patches.. 03:02 mtj currently, koha-core and koha-full dont depend on koha-common 03:00 dcook And actually since koha-common still requires rabbitmq-server, koha-core depending on koha-common would install it.. 03:00 dcook I think that Tomas and co wanted to do things differently to how I've done them there 03:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26672 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Create metapackage to install Koha and all its dependencies 03:00 dcook Hmm so looking at bug 26672 02:59 dcook :D 02:48 mtj apt-get -qy install rabbitmq-server 02:48 mtj just testing, its manually installed and configured 02:47 dcook Oh or is that just for testing? 02:47 dcook https://gitlab.com/mjames/ktd-test-pkgs/-/jobs/859064515 02:46 dcook Hmm am I seeing rabbitmq on the koha-core-ka pipeline? 02:46 dcook mtj: I was just looking for job artifacts... heh 02:45 mtj hiya, we need to setup some ktd/jenkins to properly test them, yet :) 02:42 dcook mtj: Oooh cool 02:12 mtj https://gitlab.com/mjames/ktd-test-pkgs/-/pipelines/218229728 02:12 mtj https://gitlab.com/mjames/ktd-test-pkgs/-/pipelines/218230110 02:12 mtj hi dcook, i have koha-core and koha-full packages ready to test 01:28 mtj ..but hopefully it will be pushed, and we can see how it behaves with jenkins 01:27 mtj hi tuxayo, im not sure that ive fixed the test... as i cant get it to fail on my test system 01:11 tuxayo Better sleeping than having to remove the test 01:10 tuxayo mtj++ 00:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26893 blocker, P5 - low, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , New version of JSON::Validator (D11) break our REST API routes 00:49 mtj i'll take a look at bug 26893 over the next few days, i need to setup a CI for it 00:48 mtj hi Joubu, i had a look at "fixing" www/search_utf8.t some days ago using sleep(1), i'll upload the patch