Time Nick Message 00:00 dcook The only logic that should be in the controller should be related to input/output 00:00 dcook The business logic should be int he model 00:00 tuxayo Right, HTML or REST stuff, that's all 00:00 dcook Yep 00:01 dcook And that way you get that DRY (do not repeat yourself) and code reuse 00:01 tuxayo yes! 00:01 dcook We already kind of have that in parts of Koha, but we need to really embrace it 00:03 dcook I've been thinking a bit too about how we could potentially inject controllers via plugins as well.. 00:03 dcook I mean we already do it for the REST API 00:03 dcook But we could do it for the HTML interface too 00:03 dcook Which would make for some very powerful plugins I reckon 00:04 dcook But that's future talk heh 00:04 dcook I'm actually not that far from fixing the View stuff I mentioned before 00:05 dcook I just need to make a Koha::Template module and have it take into account all the awful stuff we do in C4::Templates heh 00:05 dcook Then we're "cooking with gas" as they say in North America 00:05 tuxayo dcook++ 00:05 tuxayo The third decade of Koha looks great :D 00:06 dcook Actually, one fear I have is that I'll try to implement all this but then other people won't follow the vision heh 00:06 dcook Or that they'll make the same mistakes that we've made before 00:06 dcook Of course, I could become Release Manager to try to mitigate that in the beginning.. 00:06 dcook But I don't have the time for it :( 00:06 dcook Plus, if I just build a solid core from the beginning... then it should be OK 00:07 tuxayo To do the actual migration work, being RM might not help due to the additional work 00:07 dcook Especially if mistakes are just made in individual controllers.. 00:07 dcook mmm true 00:07 * dcook would rule with an iron fist 00:07 dcook heh 00:07 tuxayo Doing an RFC to try to agree on that direct would help maybe 00:07 tuxayo lol 00:07 dcook Actually, if I were RM, I probably would slow down the queues.. 00:07 dcook And be more selective 00:07 dcook But maybe that would make me a bad RM 00:08 dcook Hmm that randomly gave me a thought.. 00:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #115: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/115/ 00:10 dcook I was just thinking how it could be nice to.. 00:10 dcook Well making it easier to make customizations 00:10 dcook When things are module based, all you need to do is make sure that your desired/customized module is found first in @INC... 00:11 dcook I took over a Perl project years ago where core modules were customized that way 00:11 dcook (Of course, that makes for a nightmare migration path) 00:11 dcook Well not core modules. Third party modules. But CPAN modules. 00:12 dcook I'm just thinking about plugins that insert modules at the start of @INC... you could override default Koha controllers.. 00:12 * dcook is such a nerd 00:13 tuxayo I hope your company gets rich an you could have more time for all this :P 00:18 dcook Hehe me too 00:18 tuxayo The easy patch of bug 26363 has been signed off :P 00:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Provide a systemd unit file for background_jobs_worker 00:19 dcook Hehe cool 00:20 dcook I wonder a bit if the lack of an init system in Docker means that we shouldn't bother with the systemd unit files... but I don't think anyone is running in Docker and if they were running in Docker we'd do it differently anyway.. 00:20 dcook I think a lot of open source software doesn't actually provide init scripts anymore 00:20 dcook For things like Kong, Keycloak, uWSGI, I've had to write my own 00:20 tuxayo I still have my quick guide for a devbox so I could test it that way is no one is around with a devbox. 00:20 dcook I think cait still uses kohadevbox 00:21 dcook The koha-common package is very opinionated... 00:21 tuxayo > but I don't think anyone is running in Docker 00:21 tuxayo Biblibre is running in 97% LXD containers 00:21 dcook :o 00:21 dcook Whaat? Really? 00:21 dcook Nevermind me. They should be spearheading more container developments :p heh 00:23 tuxayo Indeed, maybe they can help on some things. frido is the right person to talk about that ^^ 00:23 dcook I have been thinking about doing more locally in containers, but just haven't had the motivation yet 00:23 dcook frido holding out on me all this time... heh 00:23 dcook Motivation... maybe more like incentive or "drivers" 00:24 dcook Inertia.. status quo.. 00:25 tuxayo > frido holding out 00:25 tuxayo I dont think BibLibre has really specific stuff to use LXD 00:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #112: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/112/ 00:26 tuxayo To use nginx yes, a few bugs blocked in bugzilla ^^ 00:26 dcook Yeah I've seen some of the nginx stuff 00:26 dcook Or rather heard about 00:26 dcook I don't know if I've seen.. 00:26 dcook I'll look 00:26 tuxayo One is to fix export.pl ^^ 00:26 dcook :o 00:26 dcook Do you have a link for that? 00:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #112: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/112/ 00:31 tuxayo dcook: I'll check the "biblibre" branch. Currently 19.11.09 + patches that they use everywhere. That's the interesting stuff. 00:31 tuxayo https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commits/branch/19.11/biblibre-min1 00:32 tuxayo dcook: meh 00:32 tuxayo use constant BYTES_DIGEST => 4294967296; 00:32 tuxayo https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commit/3a4ee6c5629b0ec4f2db4331cfd0b887d3048646 00:34 dcook Well I'll keep Frido in mind 00:34 tuxayo Maybe for useful: 00:34 tuxayo https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commit/cc0babf449c0b7df920a136c40547a691f48f804 00:34 tuxayo bug 17240 00:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17240 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, In Discussion , Allow processes that rely on background jobs run in Plack mode 00:34 dcook And I should really start posting patches soon so that people can see what I'm doing.. 00:35 dcook Oh yeah I didn't like frido's changes there 00:35 dcook They're not really robust enough 00:36 dcook Really there's no workaround due to Plack::App::Cgibin being used 00:36 dcook So we have to use something else 00:36 dcook I already locally proved my Mojolicious replacement for export.pl but it's not polished enough yet 00:37 dcook Actually, in that case, I also need to rewrite the Perl module because it doesn't work with Mojolicious due to Mojolicious's non-blocking design 00:37 dcook But the rewrite will be great 01:04 tuxayo dcook to test «Provide a systemd unit file for koha-worker in package installs» 01:04 tuxayo should I just run systemctl start koha-worker@NAME.service and see that there is no error? And check the process running. 01:04 dcook I think I provided an updated test plan 01:04 dcook You'll probably want "systemctl start koha-worker@kohadev.service" 01:06 tuxayo yes, it was clear that NAME was a variable. So I'll do that 01:06 tuxayo (when I devbox will actuall start ^^") 01:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #113: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/113/ 01:17 dcook Ah great :) 01:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #59: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/59/ 02:03 tuxayo dcook: I might have missed something, background_jobs_worker.pl isn't in /usr/share/koha/bin/ 02:03 dcook Hmm 02:03 tuxayo So the unit fails 02:04 dcook That's odd.. 02:04 tuxayo Wait 02:04 dcook root@kohadevbox:koha(bug_26363)$ ls /usr/share/koha/bin/background_jobs_worker.pl 02:04 dcook /usr/share/koha/bin/background_jobs_worker.pl 02:05 tuxayo Should I also do the test plan of the first patch before? 02:05 dcook Nah, it shouldn't be relevant 02:05 dcook It should "just work" 02:06 dcook I'm using a slightly different version in prod now 02:07 tuxayo find / -name background_jobs_worker.pl 02:07 tuxayo /home/vagrant/kohaclone/misc/background_jobs_worker.pl 02:07 tuxayo /home/vagrant/kohaclone/blib/SCRIPT_NONDEV_DIR/background_jobs_worker.pl 02:07 dcook Ah, so that's the git version 02:07 dcook It could be that your kohadevbox hasn't been set up right 02:07 dcook or rather it might be outdated 02:08 dcook It should install koha-common from master which should have /usr/share/koha/bin/background_jobs_worker.pl 02:08 dcook (in theory) 02:08 tuxayo It's fresh and the devbox repo up to date. 02:09 dcook Hmm what's in... /etc/apt/sources.d/koha.list or whatever the list file is.. 02:09 dcook Maybe this is a case of kohadevbox and KTD being configured differently.. 02:10 tuxayo deb [trusted=yes] http://debian.koha-community.org/koha unstable main 02:10 dcook You could also do "dpkg -l koha-common" 02:10 dcook Hmm weird 02:10 dcook maybe try a "apt-get update" and "apt-get install koha-common"... 02:10 tuxayo 20.06.00-16~git+2020072804 02:10 dcook hmm what's in /usr/share/koha/bin? 02:11 tuxayo koha-common is already the newest version 02:11 dcook Oh wait.. 02:11 dcook That's actually really old 02:11 dcook 2020072804 02:11 dcook Or rather the comment is old.. 02:11 dcook KTD is using 20.06.00-49~git+20201013020020 02:11 dcook Ah yeah kohadevbox is definitely quite old.. 02:12 tuxayo Isn't the repo the same? 02:12 tuxayo > what's in /usr/share/koha/bin? 02:12 tuxayo https://copycat.drycat.fr/?f5a61dbd2d53832d#46Ui14eC1NdtaoYNd73SW7HXusFbYYB6jHDhVuWFmxM2 02:12 dcook seems not 02:12 tuxayo I did the update 02:12 dcook deb [trusted=yes] http://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging dev main stretch 02:12 dcook That's from KTD 02:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #112: UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/112/ 02:13 dcook Yeah looks like different repos 02:13 dcook I'll send out an email 02:15 tuxayo user.yml: 02:15 tuxayo # koha_use_custom_repo: no 02:15 tuxayo The custom repo is koha-staging 02:15 tuxayo I'll try that 02:15 dcook Interesting... I'll just keep this in draft then I guess 02:16 * dcook is also going to head off for lunch ina minute 02:17 tuxayo good appetite! 02:17 dcook hehe thanks 02:17 dcook I haven't heard that literal translation in a long time 02:18 dcook merci quand même! 02:18 * dcook grabs foooood 02:18 tuxayo lol 02:19 tuxayo enjoy your meal! 02:19 tuxayo thanks wiktionary 02:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 02:56 wahanui Congratulations! 02:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #113: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/113/ 03:02 dcook wiktionary is wonderful 03:12 tuxayo Ok, I'll have the right version now after tweaking user.yml 03:12 tuxayo just wait the devbox to provision (if that's the right term) 03:17 tuxayo dcook: «active (running)» 03:17 tuxayo Started Koha Task Queue Worker. 03:17 dcook :D 03:17 tuxayo confetti! 03:17 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 03:17 dcook That's good :) 03:21 tuxayo see ya o/ 03:22 dcook Done for the day? 03:23 tuxayo yep 03:46 dcook then good night tuxayo :D 07:20 ashimema Documentation will be key in your plans dcook 07:20 ashimema Perhaps organising a meeting of Devs to showcase what you've done, how it works and what advantages it brings too. 07:20 ashimema Sounds interesting 07:21 * ashimema would love to start coding up non-blocking mojo based controllers 07:21 ashimema The progress to moving away from CGI and logic heavy controller scripts is slow going.. but we are trying 07:22 ashimema That pretty much how I spend my days... So many of my bugs end up as trees full of refactoring now.. 07:23 ashimema Instead of just piling stuff on top of already fragile controller code. 07:23 ashimema 'tis hard though.. no-one funds this approach 07:29 Joubu dcook: I did not succeed Postgres compat because of the lack of interest from other community members 07:30 Joubu now we have DBIC to answer the need, but we are not there yet 07:30 Joubu and hi #koha ;) 07:30 Joubu bug 7365 07:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7365 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha should support PostgreSQL 07:39 Joubu @later tell caroline do you think Maryse will have time to answer on bug 12446 today? (it's string freeze!) 07:39 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 07:39 magnuse \o/ 07:49 ashimema I like postgres.. but I'm not the biggest fan of trying to be database agnostic.. if we really want to support Of, personally I'd rather we switched than just prevent ourselves from ysu g the best features of any db 07:54 jonrog Good morning! When upgrading on Ubuntu using APT (18.11 -> 20.05), is there anything else then change the APT-repository and run apt upgrade that I need to do? 07:56 Joubu Hi jonrog, yes see https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian#Follow_a_codename_.28version_number.29:_20.05.2C_19.11.2C_19.05 08:02 jonrog Joubu: Thanks for the reply! when i tried the upgrade on our test-environment i changed it to "deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha 20.05 main bionic" and then ran "apt upgrade", it seemed to work without any issues 08:05 Joubu great, good to hear :) 09:19 magnuse @later tell oleonard can you still reproduce the problem on bug 22248? 09:19 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 09:33 cait1 good morning #koha people 09:34 Joubu MacOS user? We need you on bug 7882 (comment 71) 09:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7882 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Pushed to oldstable , Add ability to move and reorder fields and subfields in MARC editor 09:34 Joubu hi cait1 09:35 Joubu @later tell lukeG Hi Lucas, are you on macOS? If so, could you have a look at bug 7882 comment 71? 09:35 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:48 Joubu inlibro: hi!? 09:48 wahanui it has been said that hi is anyone around today? 09:48 Joubu wahanui: forget hi 09:48 wahanui Joubu: I forgot hi 10:04 Joubu @later tell caroline wrong bug number! it was 12446 10:04 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:01 tcohen morning 11:02 ashimema morning 11:09 ashimema hmm 11:10 ashimema is ccode a required field for items? 11:12 Joubu I don't think so 11:20 ashimema aha.. 11:20 ashimema OK.. so I think my golfing expedition on bug 26963 was worthwhile then.. I still think I need to put the actual golfing patches in a new bug.. but doing it meant I understood the code better and have uncovered a bug :) 11:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26963 major, P3, ---, nick, Signed Off , Koha::Template::Plugin::Branches::pickup_locations is very inefficient, causing timeouts on records with large numbers of holds/items 11:21 * ashimema tells kidclamp 11:28 oleonard Joubu: I can confirm Bug 7882 comment 71 11:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7882 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Pushed to oldstable , Add ability to move and reorder fields and subfields in MARC editor 11:28 oleonard It is broken in Safari on macOS 11:30 Joubu oleonard: could you have a try to fix it? 11:30 Joubu :) 11:56 oleonard I can try! 12:29 tcohen today is veteran's day in the US, expect delays in responses 12:49 ashimema aha, thanks for that heads up 13:01 tuxayo hi #koha :) 13:39 ashimema @later tell mtj any thought on bug 26893 13:39 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 13:56 cait1 hm we are seeing issues with search in elastic with 19.05 that you can't search for a single term 13:57 cait1 like au:zanker - doesn't work, but as soon as you add a word or another term with operators all works perfectly 13:57 cait1 kidclamp: maybe? 13:59 Joubu ashimema: it needs to be fixed at code level IMO 14:00 ashimema hmm.. 14:00 ashimema I don't think that's likely to happen prior to release 14:00 Joubu cait1: looks ok for me on master 14:01 magnuse cait1: doesn't work = zero hits? 14:13 magnuse bug 26893 14:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26893 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , New version of JSON::Validator (D11) break our REST API routes 15:01 Joubu tcohen: 26988 - ask ashimema! 15:01 Joubu he faced that few days ago 15:02 ashimema bug 26988 15:02 Joubu (no idea if it's related I did not check the code, but sounds familiar) 15:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26988 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Don't load hold pickup locations unless dropdown is selected 15:02 Joubu ashimema: he is saying it works under Chrome but FF 15:03 tcohen amoyano and I are looking at it 15:03 tcohen I'm playing with a select2 implementation 15:03 tcohen amoyano as my JavaScript guru is checking WTF is going on 15:03 Joubu ok, that's not related then. Sorry for the noise 15:03 tcohen haha 15:03 ashimema :) 15:08 Joubu ok, last bit for 20.11 15:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: DBRev 20.06.00.069 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f11484ae7f43092352f7b9376e86328e9fd7f66d> 15:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23019: DBRev 20.06.00.068 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6adc4514c69a5fa95ff54caf73d2542e97769863> 15:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=031ce225455decf24dbff53670136fdae49cf7c1> 15:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: DBIC schema changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb28f35021247fbfdee428253ee2a557cac90d23> 15:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Make requested changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=887022e0d23050d586970ef306df0d5630e1dd65> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23019: (follow-up) Fix test permissions and API definition bugs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6853a2d7f6bf8795b204beeeaa65a8eb61f09308> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26987: (bug 23463 follow-up) Fix serial receipt if makePreviousSerialAvailable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc465736cd14a860ffbda1571012fe94fb1e65fa> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Swap the column for "Unlimited" handling <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98f0e5047d8538f31ef9854395b5979e815f1bfb> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Delete the new rule when needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2093e41620f92987c5f1a17d8b22597837f66a1> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23019: (follow-up 2) set table name to import_batch_profiles <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa36a4c22f81d2d20fb862baf09cd4121f82afb2> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23019: (follow-up) Fix other things <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f5596afd66b1757092f252a7e9496d125e45315> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23019: (follow-up) set table name to import_batch_profiles <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d53ae88b617638215c0e2fafd6e3db1d3b8eb40> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Respond to QA feedback <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbfdc72303a2ebd5130c39c743a2d0040b2c0e2c> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Squashed follow ups <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e311a1be124cc93756183aefea7768be74849ad> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Include SelfCheckInModule <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e429d90fb3065a7c7c4bd6951ffb9d47135aa5ce> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Fix params to AddRenewal <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b80d3ba6532dd0ae911ff4a7ce5f266f30dc6f8> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Add unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2110746d44861c55714e8bb68ab665247b6cbd8> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Add support for unseen_renewals <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8595e80b7858c7eeb7b11a1dd33f338fce12791c> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Add circ rules management <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d67b2b5d46cef3dc221c05431a5ce5f7d2563cf1> 15:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Required atomic updates & DB update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07bc35615649f466674ce2e6f2534d47926b02e8> 15:25 tcohen ashimema Joubu what'ya think https://snipboard.io/8BXx0o.jpg 15:27 ashimema orty 15:27 ashimema prty 15:27 ashimema prettyi 15:27 ashimema pretty 15:27 ashimema even! 15:29 Joubu tcohen: what's the context? 15:29 wahanui the context is that I've generally targeted 4:3 though to be honest not thought a great deal about it.. but a few libaries here mentioned in passing that it would be nice to target 16:10 now as that seems to be the prominent screen on the market 15:29 Joubu improve the UI? 15:29 tcohen no 15:29 Joubu wahanui: forget the context 15:29 wahanui Joubu: I forgot context 15:29 Joubu wahanui: forget the context 15:29 wahanui Joubu, I didn't have anything matching context 15:29 tcohen bug 26988 15:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26988 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Don't load hold pickup locations unless dropdown is selected 15:36 Joubu I need a break, see you later #koha 15:36 ashimema have a nice break Joubu 15:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #124: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/124/ 15:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #138: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/138/ 15:58 tuxayo Anyone to review a "translation guideline" draft? It's about the necessity to always translate also in newer version of Koha to not loose work. 15:58 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo:Translation#Translation_process 16:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #46: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/46/ 16:10 cait1 magnuse: even kind of yellow error message, not my installation 16:11 cait1 tuxayo: can you remind me when my brain feels... not dead? :) 16:11 cait1 had a lovely workshop but can't think now 16:14 tuxayo cait1: ok. I was already planning to send it to you later as you are the last person in the last years to have contributed to the Translating_Koha wikipage ^^ 16:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #461: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/461/ 16:25 cait1 surprise ;) 16:25 cait1 Joubu: happy translating - are you trying to mock me? ;) 16:37 * tuxayo feels there might have been a nickname confusion 16:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #438: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/438/ 16:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #140: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/140/ 16:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1492: UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1492/ 17:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22818: Fix TestBuilder.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdbc04f69d751d2b08dc256d61972330512c3a0d> 17:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #132: UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/132/ 17:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #403: UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/403/ 17:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #942: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/942/ 17:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #462: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/462/ 18:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1493: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1493/ 18:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #125: FAILURE in 1 min 13 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/125/ 18:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #439: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/439/ 18:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #141: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/141/ 18:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #139: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/139/ 18:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #133: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/133/ 19:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #404: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/404/ 19:12 tuxayo Does anyone know how to test emails in Koha? 19:12 tuxayo https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26948#c3 19:12 huginn Bug 26948: critical, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Needs Signoff , Some Koha Emails are double encoded (HOLD, ODUE, ...) 19:12 tuxayo > 3) Notice the email comes garbled / double encoded 19:12 tuxayo If I just check the message_queue via SQL is that ok? 19:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #943: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/943/ 19:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #47: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/47/ 19:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #126: NOW UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/126/ 21:58 dcook @later tell ashimema Agreed about how switching to PostgreSQL would be a better idea than trying to support both 21:58 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 22:02 dcook @later tell ashimema The trees of refactoring are the tough bit. I have been re-thinking that a bit lately... 22:02 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 22:03 dcook @later tell ashimema My hope is that my work should be obvious enough not to need extensive documentation, but I suppose documentation would be a good plan. Dev meetings are hard for me due to time zone differences, but maybe I could even do a short video or something if necessary... 22:03 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.