Time  Nick            Message
23:56 * thd           goes to fetch laundry etc. and find a new disguise.
23:55 thd             I was never in that room.
23:55 dcook           Maybe not
23:54 dcook           https://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5113982548/in/album-72157625236896938/
23:54 dcook           ?
23:54 dcook           Ah maybe you behind a backpack there
23:54 thd             I am better at hiding.
23:54 dcook           I don't see you in any of these photos either
23:54 dcook           :o
23:54 thd             dcook: Almost all the pictures which someone claimed to be me are actually someone else.
23:53 dcook           Maybe just coincidence
23:53 dcook           Strangely I'm trying to spot someone in these photos but he's not in one of them
23:47 dcook           I love Kohacon but it does certainly reduce one's anonymity
23:46 dcook           Ahh and this is my first time seeing a photo of mtj!
23:44 * dcook         feels young until he realizes that he's been around for nearly half of Koha's life
23:43 dcook           Oh wow Koha 3.4.x..
23:43 dcook           I love how Robin looks so Robin heh
23:41 dcook           Like... I'm so generic looking that even I can't recognize myself 100% lol
23:40 dcook           One time, I thought I saw a picture of myself online, and it wound up being someone else
23:40 caroline        ok I wasn't sure, one person with a beard kinda looked like you
23:40 * dcook         does have many doppelgangers though
23:40 dcook           I started working on Koha in 2012
23:40 dcook           Nah, I wasn't in the Koha community in 2010
23:40 caroline        dcook: was it you in one of the pictures?
23:40 dcook           Whoa looking at that flickr from 2010..
23:39 caroline        cait, wouldn't ivan's suggestion work? If the first value starts with a 0, then the second value must have a 0
23:30 cait            so i'd be happy with other suggestions too that make both variations work
23:30 caroline        yes I understand, I'm just not sure how to logically go about it
23:29 cait            I just think we need to keep the ability to print without 0 as this works right onw
23:29 cait            not sure if I am making sense there
23:29 caroline        I'll try
23:26 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ivan.dziuba, Failed QA , When printing labels from a barcode range, keep zero padding
23:26 cait            caroline: cna you help outon bug 26340?
23:04 marie-luce      oh, too fast! one more!
23:03 thd             Do you know of any FOSS alternative to padlet.com service?
23:03 wahanui         hi oleopard
23:03 cait            hi oleonard
23:02 marie-luce      excellent first half of the day!
23:02 oleonard        o/
22:49 rangi           yeah, it's a cool little tool
22:47 marie-luce      nice way to interact with online people
22:42 caroline        It's fun to see the stuff appear!
22:42 caroline        https://padlet.com/anitsirk/kohacon2020
22:41 thd             whaat was the padlet URI?
22:33 rangi           heh
22:29 davidnind       ++ everyone
22:26 cait            and he had promised to teach me more git which he then did at the hackfest
22:26 cait            that's what I thought too :)
22:26 caroline        always a great way of making friends, chocolate
22:26 cait            and then i gave him chocolate
22:26 davidnind       KohaCon2010 photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/sets/72157625236896938/
22:25 cait            the first picture ther showed me tlaking to chris in person for the very first time, i was in awe heh
22:25 tcohen          cya tomorrow! duty calls!
22:23 davidnind       2010 blast from the past on the live stream!
22:22 cait            I think putting fans in the system was kind of a protest against the new building missing AC..
22:22 cait            calculators, rulers, pens, whiteboard markers, etc.
22:22 davidnind       thanks everyone for the weird and wonderful!
22:22 cait            and things that you need for presenting
22:22 cait            we have one that has everything you might forget for exams
22:21 cait            https://athen.bibliothek.goethe.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?advsearch=1&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&do=Suche&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3AGEGE&sort_by=relevance
22:21 georgewilliams  I have a couple of libraries that have community rooms that community members can use when the library is closed.  I have 3 libraries where we've cataloged the keys to their community rooms so they can check those out when needed.
22:21 cait            no idea how that works, but sounds interesting everytime I look at it
22:20 cait            i htink i'd like to check out the home planetarium
22:20 marie-luce      cait: I love the pétanque set and disco ball records
22:20 lari            season passes to botanical gardens, theaters, sports events and many more :)
22:17 davidnind       that was great caroline!
22:17 georgewilliams  The library in Lewiston, Idaho (USA), checks out fishing poles.  They are about 3 blocks from the Clearwater River
22:17 cait            but it's just a koha, save to click :)
22:16 cait            oh sorry for the evil link
22:16 cait            https://prag.bibliothek.goethe.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?advsearch=1&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&do=Hledat&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3AGEGE&sort_by=relevance
22:16 tosca           i would love to see collections like that in NZ
22:16 lisettelatah    birdwatching and stargazing kits
22:16 georgewilliams  We also have a library that just started checking out bicycles
22:16 cait            oh and my favourite
22:16 rangi           heh
22:16 georgewilliams  She mentioned that some of the NEKLS libraries have cake pans and bakeware.
22:16 cait            cake pans
22:16 cait            calculators
22:16 lisettelatah    At Latah County we have a curiosity collections which includes wireless hotspots, energy usage trackers, job hunting kit which includes a tie
22:16 caroline        rangi's pokemon catalog?
22:16 cait            table fans
22:16 cait            keys
22:15 davidnind       any "weird" things libraries are cataloguing?
22:15 cait            you did great
22:14 caroline        sorry kathryn for making you imporvise lol!
22:14 tosca           it was great!
22:13 caroline        ugh,. I talk so fast when im nervous!
22:13 marie-luce      great presentation!
22:12 davidnind       caroline++
22:10 cait            caroline++ :)
22:04 lisettelatah    caroline++
22:03 tcohen          caroline++
22:03 marie-luce      caroline++
22:02 marie-luce      go Caroline!
22:02 rangi           caroline++
22:02 tcohen          but wouldn't like the API design to prevent such things if someone wants that
22:02 tcohen          I wouldn't implement that
22:01 cait            but i haven't seen a request for that so far
22:01 cait            like asking them to complete the information if it's not enough
22:01 cait            maybe a feedback thing
22:01 cait            hm
22:01 tcohen          somehow?
22:01 tcohen          would we, at some point want users to 'add' infrmation to existing suggestions?
22:00 tcohen          right
21:49 lisettelatah    correct, patrons can only delete, not edit suggestions.
21:47 cait            only delete
21:46 cait            users can#t really update i think
21:46 tcohen          I guess updated_* doesn't fit, because we want to split between the user updating his suggestion, and the staff member doing stuff with it
21:45 cait            her library is behind the recent enh
21:45 cait            tcohen: i sugggest talking to Joubu and Severine
21:45 tcohen          right
21:45 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26738 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to change manager of purchase suggestion
21:45 cait            bug 26738
21:45 tcohen          suggestion.pl has an Init sub
21:43 cait            i suppose some javascript issue
21:43 cait            i was just testing what andrew supported
21:43 cait            hm there is definitely a bug there currently
21:42 tcohen          ah, any action changes managedby and manageddate
21:40 tcohen          I'll go test
21:40 tcohen          so, some statuses would change manageddate and some others not?
21:40 cait            later in the process
21:40 cait            hm a status change could also be setting to available or ordered
21:39 tcohen          are ambiguous
21:39 cait            because you might not want to show staff names there
21:39 tcohen          manageddate and <status>date
21:39 cait            in the opac
21:39 tcohen          yet
21:39 tcohen          OpacSuggestionManagedBy allows to hide the manager
21:38 cait            hm why not important?
21:37 tcohen          we only display the manager name
21:37 tcohen          managed doesn't look like important for a public route
21:37 tcohen          and trying to figure which subset of the current fields should be publicly available
21:37 tcohen          I want to propose a 'public' route to add suggestions
21:36 tcohen          some fields like that one don't look correct
21:36 tcohen          I was reviewing the RFC because the implementation looks wrong
21:36 cait            ah
21:36 tcohen          cait: the API, and consistency.
21:36 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23590 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Add the ability to change the manager of a suggestion and notify the new manager
21:36 lisettelatah    yeah it looks like 20.05 added bug 23590
21:35 cait            What's the context of the question?
21:35 tcohen          yes, someone is in charge, but some others might change the status
21:35 cait            if it gets accepted or rejected
21:35 cait            i tihnk it's the person to decide about it
21:35 cait            and i think there is a last update date now
21:35 cait            but the manager would be someone else
21:34 cait            so you woudl be hte last one to update
21:34 cait            you can also set a manager now
21:34 cait            hm not sure
21:34 tcohen          updated_by
21:34 lisettelatah    probably updatedby
21:34 tcohen          or manageddate
21:34 tcohen          in a way that tells that more precisely than managedby
21:33 tcohen          how would you call it in english
21:33 tcohen          thanks :-D
21:33 lisettelatah    tcohen it seems (at least on 19.11) to be the last user that changed a status or edited the suggestion.
21:30 tcohen          anyone knows what does it mean that someone 'managed' a purchase suggestion? Is it just the last user that changed some status?
21:16 marie-luce      indeed
21:16 cait            beautiful conf morning
21:14 tcohen          recovering my breath
21:14 tcohen          it was great, rangi
21:13 cait            koha good indeed :)
21:12 marie-luce      love it!
21:11 caroline        omg, this made me cry! so cute!
21:11 marie-luce      Koha community!
21:11 caroline        Koha good!
21:09 lisettelatah    yeah, it looks great
21:09 rangi           the video play ok?
21:02 hayley          caroline++
21:02 caroline        kathryn++
21:01 caroline        fellow linguist!
21:01 caroline        hayley++
21:00 caroline        rangi++
20:59 caroline        alexbuckley++
20:58 caroline        aleisha++
20:56 caroline        hi mark! great job so far!
20:56 marie-luce      Hi Mark!
20:56 rangi           everyone say hi to mark our tech person
20:36 * oleonard      runs off to cook
20:34 marie-luce      clap clap clap
20:32 caroline        librarians are important too :D
20:21 cait            someone else had goosebumps for the "first downloads after hours"? :)
20:21 cait            oleonard: but you always look the same! :)
20:17 caroline        rangi looks like a gnagly teenager in that photo lol
20:16 davidnind       LOL!
20:13 * oleonard      ages another 20 years
20:13 oleonard        I love seeing those old screenshots
20:01 marie-luce      Yeah!
20:01 oleonard        There we go
20:00 caroline        oh there's a chat on youtube today
20:00 carlos          not sure - i have no sound either
19:59 cait            not hearing kathryn, should I?
19:57 oleonard        I made it on time today!
19:57 caroline        still tweaking my presentation though... it's so me to do this last minute
19:57 caroline        yas!
19:57 carlos          yep - all set
19:57 marie-luce      :)
19:56 cait            everyone on their seats and ready? :)
19:56 marie-luce      Hi all
18:55 wahanui         the link is strange, add / at the end
18:55 tcohen          the link
18:55 cait            still an hour
18:54 cait            or do you mean the link?
18:54 cait            i's too early i tihnk?
18:51 tcohen          anyone has the live stream channel ?
17:51 tuxayo          o/
17:47 tcohen          hola
17:28 severine_q      good bye #koha !
16:40 ashimema        Haha.. I do that too
16:35 cait            i feel you :)
16:34 oleonard        When I enter the "git bz attach" command I wish my computer would start playing an audible countdown clock because inevitably I get distracted and don't get back to it in time.
16:12 severine_q      ok oleonard ! I think the same kind of comparison will be quite useful for Catalog module too
16:11 ashimema        henryb :)
16:10 ashimema        but David beat me to it submitting it for core
16:10 ashimema        I had intended to submit that wikipedia one as a plugin
16:10 cait            henryb: and you should totally sign up :)
16:10 henryb          Thanks cait
16:08 cait            to explain - general are monthly so that's the last meeting before release
16:07 cait            adding it to the agenda right away
16:07 cait            as november is already release date
16:07 cait            i tihnk we need to vote there
16:07 cait            and if you want to test, use the patch or jus add this to your OpacUserJs. http://paste.koha-community.org/25809
16:07 henryb          Will the 20.05 roles be voted on at the next general meeting on 4 November? Just wondering how long I have to add my name
16:07 cait            henryb: please feel free to add a comment! i'd really love to unlock it one way or the other
16:06 oleonard        severine_q: I added system preference comparison to the log viewer because it seemed like the type of log entry which would benefit from it. I hadn't thought of using it for the reports log because my reports log is always turned off :)
16:05 cait            work on anything you like severine_q
16:05 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, In Discussion , Add a wikipedia-style search suggestion feature to the OPAC
16:05 henryb          cait: bug 25532 looks interesting! I take your point about the lack of visibility if this doesn't go into Koha, especially given that we are a PTFS-E customer and I had still missed this feature (or possibly been told about it and forgotten)
16:05 cait            i filed them with the DIY in mind, but i am going to just make more :)
16:04 severine_q      cait, do you want Academy patchs to be kept for the squashing days at the end of week ?
15:32 tuxayo          So we are more consistent in the announcements.
15:32 tuxayo          lukeGthanks, I couldn't find it. I'm reminding this for tomorrow. As for the recipients, koha-translate, koha-devel and BCC to bernardo right?
15:28 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, In Discussion , Add a wikipedia-style search suggestion feature to the OPAC
15:28 cait            wonder if we could get some opinionson bug 25532?
14:42 ashimema        we all lean on the shoulders of giants there.. I'm still learning docker and often have to defer to the pros
14:42 ashimema        hehe..
14:41 ashimema        with the 'persistent' thing above it'll let you keep the same one accross restarts
14:41 ashimema        normally koha-testing-docker will throw away your database each time to restart it
14:41 henryb          docker is so amazing because you can do so much without knowing how anything works! On the other hand, I have no idea how anything works! :D
14:40 ashimema        it's exactly the same
14:40 ashimema        yes
14:40 henryb          Thanks ashimema! Is kp the same as doing   $ docker-compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.persistent.yml -p koha up ? I have no idea what that means but saw it on the KTD readme
14:39 lukeG           tuxayo: i think we decided on October 20 for the string freeze
14:37 severine_q      thanks a lot !
14:37 cait            you don#t have to, but you can if you want
14:37 severine_q      yes cait, i'm going to do a nice & clean sign off now !
14:37 cait            trying to remember... i thin it's obsolete too but not sure
14:36 severine_q      cait ashimema : should I obsolete comment #10 too using a specific tag ?
14:36 cait            severine_q: looks good now on the bug, you ok with the next steps repeating the sign-off?
14:35 ashimema        Joubu is out this week.. but he's working on some improvements around this too I believe
14:35 ashimema        I'm still reminding myself how to load my own data into it..
14:35 ashimema        henryb kp (instead of ku) will give you database persistence between uses of koha-testing-docker
14:34 severine_q      thanks ashimema cait, i need to remember that !
14:33 severine_q      cait, no problem
14:33 cait            General reminder: time this week to go wild with the Academy keyword (but only sandbox testable bugs with good test plans please!
14:31 cait            both work :)
14:31 cait            yep
14:31 ashimema        or jsut go into Bugzilla itself, click to edit the attachemnt and select the obsolete box
14:30 cait            this will make it obsolete in bugzilla and all will be as before
14:30 cait            do a git bz edit 6819 and uncomment (remove the #) from the wrong patch
14:29 cait            what you can do first is fix bugzilla
14:29 cait            severine_q: sorry, i was a bit distracted
14:28 ashimema        tcohen, kidclamp.. can you remind me (and henryb) how to get k-t-d to load with your own DB?
14:23 severine_q      i now feel better :)
14:23 severine_q      cait : oh yes, i'll be happy to un-mess this !
14:22 ashimema        I've done that soooooo many times severine_q .. easily done
14:22 tuxayo          lukeGhi :) if the release is the 27th, then the string freeze should be around now right?
14:22 cait            do you want me to help you fix it?
14:21 cait            do you know how many times i typo or similr?
14:21 cait            no problem :)
14:21 severine_q      i am sorry :/
14:21 severine_q      i failed attaching patch, there is one coming form another bug but I don't know what happened ...
14:21 cait            ah, one patch too many?
14:20 cait            did you fail it? :)
14:20 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6819 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Don't offer cancel order links for received order lines on basket summary
14:20 cait            bug 6819
14:20 severine_q      :(
14:20 severine_q      cait : i did a bad thing on bz 6819...
14:19 * ashimema      tries to find the docs for it.
14:19 ashimema        there is a way to do that..
14:19 ashimema        erm
14:19 cait            i think i shoudl not be too hard to load a database you prepared with the standard tools, but no sure how to make that happen automatically
14:18 cait            henryb: sorry, still on kohadevbox with sample data
14:15 henryb          Does anyone use koha-testing-docker with their own dummy data? Is it easy to do?
14:15 lukeG           Hi tuxayo
13:51 tuxayo          lukeG around?
13:36 cait            :)
13:35 severine_q      cait you're so quick !! you're welcome :)
13:18 cait            at least it always leaves me slightly puzzled too
13:17 cait            I have to admit, th eerror is not very helpful
13:17 magnuse         exactly...
13:10 cait            oh so it doesn't exist yet?
13:08 magnuse         gah, pebkac! i was looking up add_extended_attribute on a newer version of the code than the one i was actually working on...
13:03 ashimema        weird
13:03 ashimema        sounds about right to me
13:02 magnuse         then i try to set an attribute: $borrower->add_extended_attribute({ 'code' => 'PNR', 'attribute' => $pnr });
13:02 magnuse         on line 221 i change the categorycode, whcich works fine: $borrower->categorycode( 'BRUKER' );
13:00 magnuse         trying to adapt opac/svc/auth/googleopenidconnect to talk to another OpenID provider
12:59 cait            so... what are you trying to do and where? maybe we can spot the mistake
12:58 magnuse         not running under plack this time
12:54 cait            restart_all?
12:54 magnuse         "The method Koha::Patron->add_extended_attribute is not covered by tests!" isn't that the modern way to add an attribute to a patron?
12:53 cait            :)
12:53 cait            oleonard++
12:30 magnuse         davidnind++
12:06 ashimema        aha.. it's in the description but not actually highlighted in the video location bar
12:05 ashimema        did I imagine a timestamped version of the recorded stream?
11:59 davidnind       okay I think...
11:59 oleonard        Hi davidnind, how did your talk go?
11:58 davidnind       Days 6 and 7 - They've called it working together
11:58 oleonard        Ah right, I was looking here, https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon20/Programme, which is only for live stream stuff
11:50 severine_q      *the description ! but my english is bad since a few weeks :)
11:49 severine_q      well, that's how I understood from description :)
11:49 severine_q      oleonard, I think there is on day 6 and 7
11:30 * oleonard      asks this question to the empty void
11:30 oleonard        Is there going to be a bug-squashing session during KohaCon? I don't see it in the schedule
10:42 * magnuse       neither
10:36 severine_q      replay is nice !
10:35 severine_q      me neather :)
10:33 oleonard        I know folks stayed up late for it (not me)
10:33 oleonard        Everyone hung over from KohaCon day 1? :)
10:32 severine_q      not very crowdy today :/
10:31 severine_q      hi oleonard !
10:25 oleonard        Hi #koha
09:40 severine_q      morning #koha !
08:48 simon_          i currently get Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference
08:48 simon_          i mean <<list of values>>
08:47 simon_          is it possible to create a report with a "where in <list of values>"?
08:17 magnuse         huh? branchcode can't be included in PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField?
06:51 alex_a          Bonjour
06:48 simon_          we are still 19.05
06:48 simon_          i just saw you guys/girls fixed some stuff 19.11
06:48 simon_          no we are not on the newest version
06:46 magnuse         simon_: which version are you on?
06:41 ashimema        Dang.. so one still needs to modify a hard coded list somewhere for this stuff do they... I thought that had been fixed for ES
06:36 simon_          ok, so i added the field name in /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/QueryBuilder.pm to $koha_to_index_name and now the matching rule works
06:21 simon_          lc-card-number is already added in the default search engine configuration
06:19 simon_          i get "Invalid marclist field provided: lc-card-number" for my authority matching rule on 010$a after switching to elastic search
06:18 simon_          hi
06:15 magnuse         \o/
03:48 dcook           Just got the email :D
03:39 aleisha_kohacon tomorrow's livestream link: https://youtu.be/-Q05J_3GIOI
03:28 marie-luce      good night everyone
03:25 cait1           more food pics :)
03:25 cait1           rangi: I think you actually misssed tweeting the food from tea breaks...
03:24 dcook           #futuregoals
03:24 dcook           I've only been to Wellington once and I did not get to sample enough food last time..
03:23 dcook           night lisette
03:23 dcook           Ooh yeah what's on for dinner?
03:23 lisettelatah    good night everyone! See you tomorrow
03:23 dcook           Of course, every work day for me goes quickly... heh
03:23 cait1           what's the plan for dinner? heh
03:23 caroline        good night and talk tomorrow! :)
03:23 dcook           So quick!
03:23 cait1           kind of went quick today!
03:23 caroline        cool!
03:23 carlos          yeah nice - more tomorrow!
03:23 dcook           Well that was great
03:22 marie-luce      o for awesome!
03:17 rangi           shes a pretty good boss to have :)
03:17 dcook           Ahh kathryn is too funny
03:15 dcook           That lunch photo of yours did make me extra hungry
03:15 rangi           its funny cos its true
03:15 dcook           heh
03:15 dcook           "Chris Cormack probably tweeted it because it was food"
03:13 rangi           sweet
03:13 rangi           hopefully you are all hearing her
03:13 dcook           She's coming through loud and clear :D
03:12 rangi           kathryn is gonna do an end of day wrap up now
03:12 rangi           heh
03:12 dcook           But you can be a multibillion dollar company and have proprietary software that still needs a good ol' Shift+F5
03:11 dcook           So people bash open source
03:11 dcook           Refreshed and all good
03:11 dcook           Oh weird
03:11 dcook           "Stay tuned for our next speaker"?
03:11 dcook           Oh Youtube says standby?
03:11 davidnind       no, still running
03:10 dcook           Hmm did I miss Joy's talk all together?
03:02 georgewilliams  The best ideas usually are not.
03:01 caroline        is it legal, lol!
02:56 rangi           our great colleague and friend rebecca is back at catalyst mixing the video frm here, plus the pre recorded talks, into one stream out
02:55 rangi           (we are watching the same stream as you in the auditorium at the moment, we flick between watching people in person, and hten watching the youtube stream)
02:54 rangi           i was just wondering that myself :)
02:54 rangi           heh yeah
02:54 marie-luce      me too
02:54 cait1           now they moved
02:54 georgewilliams  I was about to ask if there were supposed to be other slides
02:53 cait1           ok, not only me then :)
02:53 caroline        are the slides rolling?
02:53 cait1           it's still the starting slide, right?
02:51 rangi           I think you would have :) small world eh
02:50 marie-luce      we've probably met then
02:48 rangi           marie-luce: she was there before I started
02:48 rangi           sorry got distracted by food
02:44 cait1           :)
02:31 caroline        yes, I've made triagles before... it starts ok and at the end one row is ugh!
02:27 cait            it's long!
02:27 cait            ... does that make any sense?
02:27 cait            so not the long side.. but the 2 equal sided sides
02:26 cait            but a row is the 2 sides together
02:26 cait            yep
02:16 caroline        is it a triangle shawl?
02:16 cait            4 rows on the two colored scard - i am at the last pattern repeat so the rows are getting quite long
02:15 cait            ah actually a little bit
02:15 caroline        cait did you make much progress on your knitting for this first day of conference?
02:12 marie-luce      when did she start at Catalyst?
02:12 dcook           Catch everyone in a bit
02:12 rangi           scrummy scrolls is her side business
02:12 rangi           marie-luce: did you ever meet sol at catalyst when you were here?
02:11 dcook           There was a vegan cafe back in Saskatchewan that had the best ones of my life (other than grandma's of course)
02:11 marie-luce      who bake those?
02:11 dcook           I haven't had a good cinnamon scroll in years..
02:11 dcook           Ohhh
02:11 marie-luce      wow
02:11 rangi           the cinammon scrolls are vegan
02:11 dcook           So Joy in about 39 minutes?
02:11 rangi           https://twitter.com/scrummyscrolls/status/1317973077590863872
02:11 dcook           Speaking of food, I need to have a late lunch >_>
02:10 rangi           you're missing some good food
02:10 dcook           cait: Glad to have you :D
02:10 rangi           its afternoon tea here now, then joy
02:10 dcook           I was a bit skeptical about participating virtually, but it's so nice being able to interact here on IRC and other electronic media
02:10 caroline        definitely will be forwarding that one to my boss hehe!
02:10 rangi           heheh
02:10 dcook           Great
02:10 cait            4:10 am and still awake... my week long training pays off :D
02:10 rangi           but then over the next 2 weeks we will cut them up and upload them as individual talks too
02:10 dcook           That's great
02:10 rangi           the streams will be up as recorded ones as soon as we finish today
02:09 dcook           :D
02:09 cait            tea break again i think
02:09 rangi           yep
02:09 dcook           I feel like that's one I could really re-visit multiple times
02:09 dcook           Are these talks going to be posted for later too?
02:09 jzairo          :) we want to get the word out to everyone !
02:09 rangi           jzairo: there was lots of nodding in the auditorium
02:09 marie-luce      jzairo++
02:08 jzairo          always happy to share ideas!
02:08 dcook           Yeah that was really interesting jzairo
02:08 jzairo          thanks @caroline
02:07 carlos          oh well - thanks rangi and hayley - we'll just have to keep an eye on it
02:07 caroline        great presentation jzairo :)
02:06 jzairo          :)
01:59 dcook           Like non-Koha friends of friends heh
01:59 dcook           The world is so small O_O
01:59 dcook           But then I think we ended up having friends of friends in common or something
01:59 dcook           I don't think I'd ever talked to Jessie before
01:59 dcook           So glad we had that fun run in Portland..
01:57 hayley_kohacon  absolutely
01:57 dcook           So true
01:57 dcook           Loving this bit about the myth vs reality
01:57 georgewilliams  I've had the feed going on my computer in the USA for 6 hours with no problem
01:56 hayley_kohacon  probably a bit different me being in the room and all!
01:56 dcook           Yeah it's been so smooth for me so far
01:56 hayley_kohacon  hm carlos it's been pretty stable for me, every so often it buffers a little bit but I don't think that's happened this afternoon yet
01:56 dcook           so true hayley_kohacon
01:56 dcook           Yeah the live feed has been going all right over here in Australia
01:55 rangi           hmm youtube being weird is all i can think of carlos
01:54 carlos          question about the live feed- a couple of us have had to refresh the youtube page for the afternoon session - any idea why that might be?
01:54 hayley_kohacon  It's really cool hearing all the different accents of people in the community, it's one thing to say 'more than 15,000 libraries world wide' and another to hear it and see it for real!
01:53 dcook           Having flashbacks to Kohacon2018 too
01:53 dcook           I'm so not used to hearing North American accents.. heh
01:51 dcook           heh
01:51 caroline        git revert that-time-I-said-something-really-stupid
01:50 dcook           It's a shame we're virtual this year. Otherwise I'd cheers a beer to that
01:50 caroline        yeah, if only you could git reset in life though
01:49 dcook           And since you put it that way... that's not a bad philosophy to have about life heh
01:49 dcook           caroline: That's how I've done it too heh
01:46 marie-luce      I'm taking notes!
01:46 caroline        diving in and making mistakes is the best way to learn
01:45 caroline        dcook: lol!
01:45 caroline        After all, that idea started at kohacon last year
01:45 dcook           I feel like it was just a couple years ago that you were starting out caroline, and now you're the pro
01:45 caroline        good idea!
01:44 lisettelatah    caroline what about trying to do a meeting during Koha DIY later this week?
01:41 hayley_kohacon  caroline++
01:41 hayley_kohacon  I'm excited to get involved with documentation where I can, thank you for being welcoming caroline!
01:41 lisettelatah    davidnind++
01:41 caroline        davidnind++
01:41 hayley_kohacon  davidnind++ wonderful talk!
01:40 marie-luce      davidnind++
01:40 caroline        Send us a word document and we'll be dancing!
01:40 cait            heh
01:40 caroline        I feel like shouting WE ACCEPT EVERYONE! NO KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED!
01:38 caroline        I think we're already at 2.0
01:38 rangi           i think have to go to 2.0 first
01:38 caroline        I should write to the liste see if anyoe is interested in doing another one
01:37 caroline        we didn't set a date last time :(
01:37 lisettelatah    caroline when is the next community education meeting?
01:37 caroline        What's missing is the how to go from 1.0 to 4.0
01:36 caroline        That's where we'd like to be going... It's just hard to switch and we're so behind
01:34 dcook           I like this topic-based approach idea
01:34 dcook           Really intrigued by davidnind's talk
01:33 dcook           Ultimately it'll be /var/log/koha/kohadev/<filename>
01:33 dcook           interesting
01:33 lisettelatah    cait++
01:31 cait            koha-plack-err:    tail de Plack error log
01:31 cait            koha-plack-log:    tail the Plack access log
01:31 cait            koha-opac-err:     tail the OPAC error log
01:31 cait            koha-intra-err:    tail the intranet error log
01:31 cait            there are some alias commands that you can use:
01:30 cait            usually they end up in the plack error log then
01:30 cait            ok
01:30 lisettelatah    kohadevbox
01:29 cait            kohadevbox or docker?
01:29 cait            first try koha-plack-err
01:29 cait            oh
01:29 lisettelatah    not on sandboxes, on devbox on my machine
01:28 cait            the newer ones have this button
01:28 cait            ?
01:28 cait            http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com/
01:28 lisettelatah    intranet error
01:28 hayley_kohacon  caroline glad it's better now! I'm monitoring the stream the whole day so I will hopefully catch any issues on our end pretty quickly :)
01:27 cait            hm which ines are you looking for?
01:25 lisettelatah    where are logs in the devbox?
01:23 caroline        marieluce helped me with the visual, much better now!
01:21 dcook           Got the audio slider stuck to my mouse. Anyway doesn't matter heh
01:21 dcook           Well youtube glitch
01:21 dcook           I think the audio may have been a little browser glitch for me
01:21 dcook           Hmm visual is great for me
01:20 cait            davidnind++
01:20 cait            still ok here
01:19 caroline        audio is fine for me but the visual is pixelated
01:18 dcook           But go davidnind :D
01:18 dcook           Audio is a bit spotty with this session :(
01:17 cait            starting again :)
01:17 caroline        davidnind++
01:06 dcook           Although we have many more contributors I think
01:06 dcook           DSpace is quite a different model to ours
01:06 dcook           I wondered that a bit
01:06 dcook           Heh
01:06 cait            hope we didn't scare him off
01:05 dcook           I think so too
01:05 cait            i think this was his first patch
01:05 dcook           Cool to see him contributing to Koha now too
01:05 dcook           He's been a DSpace contributor for quite a few years
01:05 dcook           I was looking at the thread, and recognized the name Ivan Masar and helix84
01:05 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, helix84, Passed QA , Allow system preferences to be bookmarked
01:05 dcook           Nice one
01:05 dcook           Really intrigued by bug 23823
01:05 cait            I've uploaded a possible solution by now :)
01:04 dcook           cool
01:04 cait            thx dcook - the tests seem to go that direction too
00:49 dcook           Looks like a college so yeah LCC for sure
00:47 dcook           As we used to print labels where we just have the letters on top..
00:47 dcook           I guess not..
00:47 dcook           Although... boy you can tell I haven't done this in a while
00:46 dcook           I mean... "B 29" seems like an error in any case..
00:46 dcook           Ahh and I see Nick's point..
00:44 dcook           LOC/LCC*
00:43 dcook           It's been a while since I classified or shelved anything, but yeah I'd say LOC/LC
00:42 dcook           I can take a peek
00:31 cait            is that LOC?
00:30 huginn          Bug 25897: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Inventory table call number sort should use cn_sort value
00:30 cait            https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25897
00:30 cait            does someone know which schema these callnumbers are?
00:21 cait            oleonard: around?