Time Nick Message 21:44 aleisha hello 21:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1432: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1432/ 21:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #391: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/391/ 20:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #82: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/82/ 20:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #91: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/91/ 19:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #78: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/78/ 19:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #94: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/94/ 19:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #76: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/76/ 19:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #85: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/85/ 19:07 davidnind Thanks tcohen! (Just read the message for Jonathan on koha-devel) 19:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #80: FIXED in 1 hr 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/80/ 19:06 wahanui Congratulations! 19:06 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 19:06 tcohen davidnind yes, you need to apt install libplack-middleware-logwarn-perl 19:01 davidnind Has something broken master with koha-testing-docker? I did a git pull for koha and now my browser is just twiddling it's thumbs saying waiting for 127.0.0.1 (works okay if I checkout 20.05.x)... 18:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #352: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/352/ 18:38 kidclamp i.e. is already broken, 5697 doesn't break it 18:36 kidclamp rather than use the coumn alias, just hardcode the correct variable name into the above and the one for batch item deletion 18:36 kidclamp https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ns234wzK/ 18:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23197 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Add more batch operation options to SQL report results 18:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23390 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Add placeholder syntax for column names 18:35 kidclamp oleonard it looks like when I wrote bug 23390 I didn't take bug 23197 into account 18:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #895: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/895/ 18:24 huginn Bug 25942: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Batch biblio operations on report results 18:24 kidclamp oleonard https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25942 may be related? 18:00 kidclamp ah,one is an array, the second is looping that array, so should be set 17:59 kidclamp trying to understand and remmber what I did :-) 17:59 kidclamp [% IF header_ro.has_itemnumbers 17:59 kidclamp [% SET header_row.$place.has_itemnumbers = 1 %] 17:57 kidclamp looking 17:55 oleonard kidclamp I was hoping you could look at my patch sometime and see if you could advise me 17:54 kidclamp :-) 17:54 oleonard When I assume I make an ass out of me and myself. 17:53 oleonard (I was assuming, and didn't remember to test) 17:53 oleonard When I wrote the patch for 5697 I thought I was working with the right template checks to allow the placeholder system to work with my patch, but I guess not 17:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Automatic linking in guided reports 17:52 oleonard And Bug 5697 17:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23390 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Add placeholder syntax for column names 17:52 oleonard kidclamp, I have a question about Bug 23390 17:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #95: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/95/ 17:32 * kidclamp waves at oleonard again 17:23 tcohen back 17:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1431: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1431/ 17:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #390: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/390/ 17:00 kidclamp Fair enough. I have to run to pickup kid from school, will be back shortly 17:00 oleonard Hey kidclamp, sorry, I got distracted because my kids started watching E.T. and I was mesmerized. 16:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #79: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/79/ 16:31 reiveune bye 16:30 * kidclamp waves at oleonard 16:15 Vero for example 16:14 Vero Item types, first 16:14 Vero refine your search, how to change the position 16:12 tcohen hi 16:11 Vero hi 16:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #413: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/413/ 16:01 oleonard thx 16:01 kidclamp Bbiab oleonard 15:45 oleonard kidclamp around? 15:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #87: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/87/ 15:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #67: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/67/ 15:14 SiteGuarding how to reset or get the password for http://xxxx-intra.yyyyyyyyyy/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl admin access 14:47 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:47 Joubu @later tell mtj can you add libplack-middleware-logwarn-perl to our package dependency list please? 14:43 Joubu ha, maybe it's me who is misremembering something then! 14:42 ashimema[m] just sorting out the kids first 14:42 ashimema[m] I'll take a look shortly 14:42 ashimema[m] Happy to test if I mis-remembered of course 14:42 ashimema[m] I thought we discussed it prior to you going away but left it with something still to do 14:41 ashimema[m] sorry Joubu 14:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #5: FAILURE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/5/ 14:17 Joubu tig 14:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11176 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to master , Purchase suggestions should respect the 'active' switch on budgets 14:14 fridolin Bug 11176 concieved in 2013 whaooo old 14:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26425 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix history.txt once and for all 14:14 Joubu You forgot bug 26425 14:14 wahanui rumour has it ashimema[m] is requestion a new build for the 3 projects, let's see if it fixes the failures :) 14:14 Joubu ashimema[m]! 14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15437: MARC21: Show $i for 780/785 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a03e4f485a351f73015a39346ee0738217016f0a> 14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17458: Remove use of datereceived from order receive page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d924e892a897b723664aa950938f1fbc06e7e3a4> 14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16357: Override __WARN__ in Plack to use Log4Perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57c62a612d7a8c590a2b5ef0ce75d9915471e19a> 14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16357: Use separate Log4Perl logger for each Plack app <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef021268bbe9519ac3eb070450591c2b761ac1c3> 14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26224: Prevent double submit of header check in form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d5a49a7ef165b7b47dda6357aaf2953dacfa362> 14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26249: Set keep_text class correctly in cat-search.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81b14467af36424183fbf2d3a281262e63d441fa> 14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16357: Plack error logs are not time stamped <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79b2b85f82875664e47cfff1cf1922605f94b03c> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16357: (QA follow-up) Only initialize Log4perl module <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bc0aa708c5903c8ae2b7c45643600d0fc59ae03> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16357: (QA follow-up) Add log4perl configs during package upgrade <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5651facf0574f028250aeb8f30d6d8e2a5ebaabe> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16357: Only use Log4perl middleware if appenders defined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68ec27562fbb89c68058505b35c14aab7accc7fb> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25624: Add --where option to update_patrons_category.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa8ee99fb77f3de1904efe52d0bbd847cc4e63aa> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15437: (follow-up) Move $i subfield display to the beginning and add OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed6d0d42a79a6b553f6945b8b0f041bf7177e925> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23485: Show barcode in holds to pull <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe84c3acba33af7a2fb27643f6b5f9129c329b36> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26478: Display issue with buttons on the self checkout screens <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8522d8231ad096f4cc25b2a7aee8466d03c5bc2> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11223: Fix the ind1 semantics for 785 in the staff interface <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80993795ddf7c7b3c37262dc5f10a9771e5eaa37> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26512: Display issue with buttons for OPAC checkout note <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5baffbee313c8d70d9abe9517fd9d4fda6efe9cd> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11176: Add active switch on budgets select in suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8dca36661d7cca5a60aaacc44d2e6a774f78da7a> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24780: Make items.stocknumber show up in batch item modification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0afcf3936a6ceeb865fdf0159cf54618400847d7> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26323: (QA follow-up) Fix syntax errors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd6598d018d0a27b0704aed95e299f6fe0f1c2c1> 14:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26556: (bug 25070 follow-up) Fix typo data_addressfield in address includes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0e4e3b5f87fc4fa2af78ec1749429921e5e5ae9> 13:55 fridolin patch added 13:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26556 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, ASSIGNED , Cities autocomplete broken in patron edition 13:54 fridolin Bug 26556 13:54 fridolin oh what a typo 26556 12:55 ashimema[m] thanks everyone 12:46 ashimema[m] I agree 12:46 ashimema[m] indeed 12:46 kohaputti How we have used these frameworks is to provide more specialised way of doing cataloguing by hiding some fields from the editor 12:45 kohaputti a safe bet here would be frameworks+field+subfield, the meaning cannot change between different frameworks, can it? Also, why even allow changing the descriptions for each framework separately 12:45 ashimema[m] that indeed brings me back around to having a fallback system for when the most specific translation doesn't exist 12:44 ashimema[m] frameworks, vs. frameworks+field, vs frameworks+framework+field vs frameworks+framework+field+interface.. as your key 12:43 ashimema[m] it's all about how much context we want I suppose.. picking your key 12:42 ashimema[m] though it's only at the 'field' context level 12:41 ashimema[m] hmm.. that does indeed make sense 12:38 kohaputti so not the best example but someone could do it like this... 12:38 kohaputti I mean you could translate Kunto also as Tila I guess 12:38 kohaputti ashimema[m], maybe 013e and 583l could use different translations in finnish, 583l = "Kunto" and 013l = "Tila" 12:35 ashimema[m] av's are a weird case because they're so flexible 12:34 ashimema[m] because to me, it is perfectly plausible to have a distinct meaning for the same word over two categories.. the category adds the context 12:34 ashimema[m] or rather av_$category-$string 12:33 ashimema[m] so av_category-$string 12:33 severine_q Hi Joubu :) 12:33 ashimema[m] I would say 'group' = av_category 12:32 Joubu For AVs, will we fetch the translation string with av-$string, or av-av_category-$string? 12:31 ashimema[m] any framework 12:31 ashimema[m] just that it's a string in a framework 12:31 kohaputti the issue could be inside the framework itself too 12:30 kohaputti ok, I will try to find some for you :) 12:30 ashimema[m] as it stands.. there is nothing to say which framework it's from 12:30 ashimema[m] that's the exact question we're trying to answer kohaputti 12:30 Joubu I don't have one 12:30 kohaputti ashimema[m], is there anything in the db to define which marc subfield it is, or just component = frameworks and text = "Title statement" (for 245 field)? 12:30 ashimema[m] can you give me an example of an AV where it would? 12:29 ashimema[m] it jsut doesn't logically make sense to me 12:29 ashimema[m] so having two matching one's makes no sense 12:28 ashimema[m] we always display 'description' in the dropdowns.. 12:28 ashimema[m] how would the user pick the right AV when assigning it ? 12:28 ashimema[m] I can't see how having two AV's with matching descriptions would ever be OK... 12:27 ashimema[m] still trying to get a good example for AV's too 12:27 ashimema[m] you can change your 245 to be 'Article title' if you want and you'd get 'Article title' as a translatable string. 12:27 Joubu Hi severine_q! 12:26 Joubu The problem IMO is more for AVs 12:26 ashimema[m] say the default frameworks description 245 as 'Title'.. and then you have a Article framework.. 12:25 severine_q Hello #Koha !! It's been a long time :) 12:25 * ashimema[m] isn't good at picking marc fields so the following examples are contrived 12:25 ashimema[m] so.. for frameworks as the example 12:25 kohaputti ok good, just wanted to make sure the strings for frameworks and itemtypes are separate 12:25 ashimema[m] then the string is just the text to translate 12:25 ashimema[m] group is the koha component.. so 'frameworks, itemtypes, avs 12:25 kohaputti and group contains what? 12:24 ashimema[m] id, group, text 12:24 kohaputti so there is group and key, how do those look like? 12:24 kohaputti this one from the bug report: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=102688 ? 12:23 kohaputti what is the schema of this table? 12:23 ashimema[m] as the full string 12:23 ashimema[m] complex code is code people will end up not maintaining/understanding and useing 12:23 kohaputti ashimema[m], how would the translation be stored to db for framework description? 12:22 ashimema[m] I'm happy to be wrong.. but wanted to make sure I was before continuing to complicate the code 12:22 ashimema[m] when words have multiple meanings in english they also need context to work out what they mean... so I think you'll have that context included by the very nature of how the system works.. 12:22 ashimema[m] cait talks about 'list item' and 'loanable item'.. but in the frameworks case I think you would always have the 'list' and 'loanable' part of the string as context.. I can't see any examples where it's just the single word 'item'.. 12:20 kohaputti hmm, I thought I saw example from cait about this 12:19 ashimema[m] I have thought about the frameworks case and am still struggling to find one.. hence asking really 12:19 kohaputti ashimema[m], so for itemtypes just storing the description once seems enough but for marc framwework field descriptions most likely not 12:18 kohaputti ashimema[m], with itemtypes that sounds quite impossible indeed, but there was the example of marc framework subfield translations where this seems to be issue 12:13 tcohen \o/ 12:11 Joubu hola tcohen o/ 12:07 tcohen wb Joubu 12:07 tcohen morning 12:07 ashimema[m] how would you pick which translation to use at the template level if you do have multiple translations for the same word 12:06 ashimema[m] and conversly.. if you have an itemtype with a description 'item'.. surely the fact it's an itemtype gives you the context needed to pick the right translated term.. 12:05 ashimema[m] Why would you literally have two or more itemtypes with a description of simply 'item'.. 12:05 ashimema[m] yes.. I can see that 'item' may translate to multiple things in various langauges.. but surely there's context associated with it that would mean the whole string was different for those cases 12:03 ashimema[m] reading back 12:03 ashimema[m] sorry, got called away 11:37 Joubu that may fix the problem 11:37 Joubu you can try to restart koha-common 11:37 SiteGuarding thank you will try 11:37 Joubu /var/log/koha/$instance 11:37 Joubu in the Koha log files 11:36 SiteGuarding how to findout where is the issue? 11:36 SiteGuarding but other perl scripts works correct on the server 11:36 SiteGuarding hello. koha gives "Internal Server Error" and cant load web installer interface http://siteglib.koha.safetybis.com/ 11:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #75: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/75/ 11:22 kohaputti To reduce the amount of manual work there could be a tool to get suggested translations from the existing strings which are already translated, the same way we do in Pootle for other Koha translations. 11:18 kohaputti ashimema[m], looks to me like the "unnecessary" duplication needs to be done (comment 20) or otherwise a new "meaning of string" column must be added. 11:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #894: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/894/ 11:13 cait or cancel 11:13 cait there is a history of words that can have multiple meanings, issue too 11:13 cait a list item and a loanable item are different things 11:13 cait ashimema[m]: Item can have different translations in German 11:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #351: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/351/ 11:04 ashimema[m] adn the code is a bit cringy to read as is.. hense not posting it yet.. it's still experimenting 11:03 ashimema[m] yet 11:03 ashimema[m] db wise I have it resolved.. but I can't work out how to make a nice UX for it in the localizations page 11:03 ashimema[m] I have a branch that works toward solving that issue 11:01 Joubu ashimema[m]: I don't think it's a good idea to have such limitation. If we go with it anyway, this limitation should be visible on the interface. So far what I describe in comment 16 is not conceivable 11:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26551 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , When importing a framework, the modal heading is too long and runs outside of the dialog 11:01 davidnind oleonard: cait has already added bug 26551 for the issue, I've added a screenshot - is in 20.05.x as well (but not in 19.11.x), so not related to the Bootstrap 4 update. 11:00 ashimema[m] around comment 20 10:59 kohaputti ok, will check in a bit 10:58 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24975 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , Refactor database translations 10:58 ashimema[m] bug 24975 10:58 kohaputti ashimema[m], is there a bug report relating to this question you are asking? I could take a look to fully understand the problem here. 10:57 ashimema[m] and feel that should be a followup (and I have code that could add that in a next bug) 10:56 ashimema[m] I can understand the case for plural forms 10:56 ashimema[m] can you give an example of an itemtype that may need more than one translation for the same description? 10:54 kohaputti and the language that the string is being translated to might be less ambiguous than what english is 10:52 kohaputti yup, if the same string is in different contexts it can have different meaning 10:52 Joubu "Item" 10:49 ashimema[m] for the same language that is. 10:49 ashimema[m] I'm still struggling to see a use case for multiple translations for the same string 10:46 davidnind I'm not sure of the correct protocol, I always add a note, but not really sure if it is required or helps... 10:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #94: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/94/ 10:43 kohaputti yeah, ok, I could do it in future to be more explicit 10:43 davidnind kohaputti: I wasn't sure, so it is good to confirm that a message would have been sent by just changing the status 10:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1430: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1430/ 10:41 kohaputti davidnind, I noticed your message on bz whether the email notification goes for status change and for me it happens at least (and here I didn't want to pollute the discussion with comments about patch doesn't apply because that is pretty common case) 10:37 davidnind okelelydokeley! 10:36 oleonard A new bug with 20168 as a dependency 10:35 davidnind oleonard: Do you have a general bug for Bootstrap 4 related issues? Or just add a new bu? 10:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #389: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/389/ 10:13 oleonard welcome back Joubu 10:13 oleonard Hi all 10:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #412: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/412/ 10:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #4: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/4/ 09:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #86: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/86/ 09:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #66: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/66/ 09:20 ashimema[m] done :) 09:19 Joubu new commits without conflicts is hard :) 09:18 cait get out your aproved stamp then :) 09:17 ashimema[m] they look reasonable to me :) 09:14 cait (paidfor) 09:14 cait ashimema[m]: should be nothing bad 09:12 * ashimema[m] has a horrible feeling there's going to be some horrible conflicts in his bugs 09:12 kohaputti hopefully not too many merge conflicts 09:11 Joubu slowwwwly 09:11 kohaputti yay, patches going in :) 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25265: Prevent double reindex of the same item in batchmod <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88cb7f223d31716c20e8f9341c64594b28ada33f> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26231: Remove incorrect use of AddAuthority() when 001 present <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9622561636387ced932cc31e285d13cdba607c47> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25758: Return on_reserve over too_soon when not calling from automatic_renewals... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff08e99965ccb60092b5bdd5181fd517e1fab161> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26434: Fix plugin dirs addition to @INC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dcdc72aee7d835c08ca3565a83a3dae7389a4f87> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26438: Rename temporary Koha::Item variables to avoid conflict <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=647e05d8265831a09f6c624928990cfd62896b39> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25265: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f989338899a3a4fe0cf131f0c63ef79f69a7bf2> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25265: Rename skip_modzebra_update to skip_record_index <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=205d909a56f0170e1abf60bf880315e52f66fd21> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26505: Suspend hold modal broken in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae21c3adb16c0604c995a08a4082c3d1d60ab822> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25265: Fix copy paste error for parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a690ba2b26ef6247cdf336077311e4afb0e94473> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26510: Transport Cost Matrix editor doesn't show all data when HoldsQueueSkipClos... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=26ab04a3b383f5a9c88124625f8edc1c4cf1d816> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25265: (follow-up) Don't index malformed records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7dde763dcb4e6f4d9d8a61e754f48758cbd03a4> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25265: (QA follow-up) Add shebang to Indexer.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=47b594a3dcd59f13073716daf38696967d1faa77> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25265: (QA follow-up) Rename biblionumber in ModZebra, index_records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=501b9ea33667c7fdd87fe356b9fab364c10ab383> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25265: (QA follow-up) Check server type in Elasticsearch::index_records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d19572ea765dbf6c13ba1343433ed07729413248> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26384: Add .t extension to make the script executed by CI <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36895fee3a5aaea9096f5edfba29b408eb6975db> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15933: Add +x to the script <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d716f2a18a7863f7b7f2e42fd8286b9982a52775> 09:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16314: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9815855bd6e442857fdae0c48335f9fe5d17507> 09:01 ashimema[m] :) 09:01 ashimema[m] just reading your comment now cait 09:00 cait ashimema[m]: please look at the paidfor one first :) 09:00 * ashimema[m] tries to muster the courage to get back to the translations refactor bug again.. I wasn't happy with how I left it on my branch 09:00 cait you will get to those bugs eventually 08:59 cait no we are good i think 08:59 Joubu about AVs? 08:59 ashimema[m] everywhere is a bit scary at the moment :( 08:59 Joubu cait did you have a question for me? 08:59 ashimema[m] lol 08:59 * cait sends cookies 08:59 Joubu not because of the 109 PQA bug reports, but because Madrid looks scary :D 08:58 Joubu yup totally, but already stressed to be back 08:58 ashimema[m] good break I hope Joubu.. feeling refreshed :) 08:56 cait ah good, got worried you ran away :) 08:56 Joubu yes 08:56 cait Joubu: are you still there? 08:56 ashimema[m] haha.. I can't complain.. I am the typo king 08:56 ashimema[m] the real differentiating factor is that your's is the 'historical' list of checkouts 08:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21883 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , Show authorized value description for withdrawn in check-in 08:55 ashimema[m] bug 21883 I'm less sure about.. I think that one could more easily be a refactor job 08:55 cait and sorry for all the typos, irc on the small screen today 08:55 ashimema[m] totally 08:55 ashimema[m] perfect cait.. that's exactly what I suggest in my comments 08:55 cait because this is almost a bug and might be considered for backporting 08:54 cait and propose the refactor as a deppendent bug below 08:54 ashimema[m] I was just surprised it wasn't a thing out there 08:54 cait i had thought maybe just change the auth value stuff 08:54 ashimema[m] yeah.. all good 08:54 ashimema[m] working through it this morning I felt that the suggested refactor could cause a real performance issue 08:54 cait not against the feautre, just happy to learn new things and undertand better 08:54 ashimema[m] I've commented on that bug now cait.. I think it needs a minor followup now as apposed to a full on refactor ;) 08:53 cait just telling you why they might not care 08:53 cait for the libraries 08:53 cait as checkouts 08:53 cait ashimema[m]: yes, but then we do reports that count both 08:53 cait ashimema[m]: i didn't have time to rework it, but planning to 08:53 ashimema[m] we do differentiate in our stats cait. 08:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18170 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Failed QA , Show damaged status on check-in 08:52 ashimema[m] bug 18170 08:52 kohaputti and well, the red ones are something we still have to implement from scratch or need more work before we can start using them. 08:51 cait oh oops 08:51 kohaputti cait, yes, the list is on that the page I linked above, yellow colored rows in the list. 08:50 cait do you have a list of the "missing" things? 08:50 cait i hope it will save you a lot of headachs in the future 08:50 cait kohaputti++ congratulations 08:49 kohaputti you can expect a lot more action in bugzilla after the migrations are finished :) 08:49 magnuse kohaputti: cool! 08:48 cait so it might not matter? 08:48 cait hm the national stats does count renewals as checkouts i think 08:48 ashimema[m] nice one :) 08:47 kohaputti good morning! I wanted to share happy news that we have two libraries already using near community master version of Koha, only 17 patches / 5 features added on top of it, and around 13 more libraries coming in the next few months: https://www.kiwi.fi/display/KK/Update+schedule+and+progress+tracking 08:44 ashimema[m] as it'll be recorded as a checkin/out as apposed to renewal? 08:44 ashimema[m] really.. but does that not mess up the statistics 08:43 cait so i might not have heard of it as a requirement 08:43 cait i think what libraries probably do is just check them in and out again 08:43 cait ok, so i understood that right 08:43 ashimema[m] exactly 08:43 cait to understand right... a seen renewal means that the person is presenting the booksß 08:43 ashimema[m] the idea is to require the librarian see the item once in a while to make sure it still exists rather than it just getting renewed over and over again when it's actually been lost. 08:42 ashimema[m] phone vs other renewals and such 08:42 ashimema[m] yeah.. that's it.. 08:42 ashimema[m] ah, could be 08:41 cait i know that our old ILS horizon could differentiate between phone renewals and such, but i think we never uesed it - it might be because i am mostly working with academics? 08:41 cait ashimema[m]: i wouldn't pretend to not know :) 08:38 ashimema[m] but I wouldn't have expected it to be a UK specific feature 08:37 ashimema[m] It's part of the UK Core Spec here.. i.e. it's in pretty much every tender we respond to as a required feature.. we've got away with it to date but it's becoming more pressing 08:37 ashimema[m] is it not a thing there? 08:37 ashimema[m] cait, have you really never heard of seen vs unseen renewals in Germany> 08:37 ashimema[m] welcome back Joubu 08:36 ashimema[m] hi 08:11 cait yeah... i am sorry we didn't get more done ;) 08:09 Joubu pfiou 109 PQA bugs! 08:00 cait welcome back Joubu :) 07:52 Joubu hi #koha :) 06:52 fridolin lets coffeeeeeeeee ;) 06:52 fridolin summer is over 06:52 fridolin feels like a rainy monday :( 06:51 fridolin hi there 06:28 wahanui hey, reiveune 06:28 reiveune hello 06:00 huginn cait: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 2 days, 20 hours, 48 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <Joubu> I will be mostly afk for the next 2 weeks. Bye #koha :) 06:00 cait @seen Joubu