Time Nick Message 05:49 TimothyAlexis Is it possible in Koha to get statistics on how much a service is used? Such as visits to opac-serial-issues.pl for example 06:38 reiveune hello 06:58 alex_a Bonjour 06:58 wahanui niihau, alex_a 07:01 cait1 good morning #koha 07:24 magnuse \o/ 10:30 oleonard o/ 10:44 magnuse \o 10:52 cait hm general question 10:52 cait i have started working on unifying the way the material type information is displayed in staff vs opac result list 10:53 cait can I assume that we cant it to look the same between opac and staff? 10:53 cait so far what i have found is that we display more icons in opac than in staff 10:53 cait my goal would be to use the same include file for staff and opac in hte end 10:53 cait so that we can keep them from diverging easier because oyu can compare and copy them around 10:54 oleonard @quote get 123 10:54 huginn oleonard: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 10:54 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 10:54 cait ohoh 10:54 cait so you think they should be different? 10:55 oleonard I don't actually know 10:55 cait the logic behind is pretty insance 10:55 cait i might propose it and note the differences once i have found them all 10:55 cait hiding additional icons would not be hard 11:30 ashimema[m] funny cait.. I was looking at some of the code around there recently too 11:30 ashimema[m] when I was doing fixes for table sizing prior to it being reverted 11:31 ashimema[m] there's some terrible logic in the results list table on the opac.. we should at least hide the empty columns if not removing them from the table entirely at the template side 11:31 ashimema[m] also.. they're marked up as 'selectcol' when they're clearly not 11:32 ashimema[m] grrr 11:32 cait1 i think we are talking about very different thing 11:32 cait1 s 11:32 cait1 I am in the XSLT - the material type, format and audience information drawn from all the controlled field positions 11:32 ashimema[m] ok 11:32 ashimema[m] different 11:32 cait1 yep 11:33 cait1 even more horrible i think 11:33 cait1 :) 11:33 cait1 this one line display has like... a few hundred lines of code behind it 11:34 cait1 that's why i think separating it into an extra file that is the same between opac and staff would be a nice idea 11:35 ashimema[m] sounds sensible 11:37 oleonard I'm getting this error when running some tests: 11:37 oleonard Cannot open /tmp/fh6pFlDVON/etc/koha/log4perl.conf (No such file or directory) 11:37 oleonard Is this a configuration problem on my end? 12:04 Joubu which tests oleonard? 12:04 oleonard More than one, including t/db_dependent/Circulation/transferbook.t. I'm testing Bug 19532. 12:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha 12:07 magnuse /tmp/ looks like a bad place for a conf file? unless it's some docker thing I know nothing about 12:07 oleonard Hm, similar errors when I try to rebuild zebra "Cannot open `/tmp/fh6pFlDVON/etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-authorities-dom.cfg' [No such file or directory]" 12:12 Joubu oleonard: koha-testing-docker or kohadevbox? 12:13 Joubu what's the value of log4perl_conf in koha_conf? Is the path valid? 13:30 cait1 tcohen: hope you are not grumpy i made the bug fix a dependency :) (analytics feature) 13:32 ashimema[m] grumpy.. tcohen.. never.... 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: DBIC schema changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c087b1e594fa6a8fa5309baea29a67159c7c229> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Rename publicationdate with published_on <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1658744c6597d3ea8a02e4e9419f133aad830a2> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: DBRev 20.06.00.033 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bec601db345258bc35ee613943cbf98828ae3541> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26324: Fix spelling resizable vs resizeable in Dopop <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce7f4d16d6acdc6a56d40e6ebd96d722f1c77387> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: (QA follow-up) Check for field existence in db rev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=62acc69c719049ddf36e39b1b29b1fa061b6ab54> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25584: Fix minor styling issue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a0ccf7af26236db9a3e40968cf8f43bc308f142> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25584: Refresh checkouts table when a return claim is added <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fc7427dd41ce10070a6a3d3070fb660850be511> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: (QA follow-up) Fix publication date display in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ec59f19302654244f18aa5942aef13acbf24fc9> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24147: Don't assume search_related will return ordered values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e10dc503289e8d7e8c742af0111acb79d4d53111> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25630: (follow-up) Fix capitalization and terminology for system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=024bb186e683f8da9b862ca70a65599325dd4737> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Update translated news and notices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=abf63eb93b271a5957bc040c153ea10b9afa867e> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Update English sample notices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=883d404a1a68031aef60e867434cf513dcc013d7> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Update NewsChannels.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a168e647bbb1da5a338fc4cda618adcde1ac7324> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Resolve SQL errors in strict mode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ede8546e2b03199832637e7e79b3ab980edc47db> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25101: (follow-up) Tick preview checkbox on by default <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b845b9e8ab25001b0682920cea45662165f60f0> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25630: Fix capitalization and terminology for Accounting, Administration and... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17a2d577944e016d597ccc5198793e5b48917e69> 13:35 tcohen cait1 it is PQA isn't it? 13:35 tcohen :-D 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25630: Fix capitalization and terminology for Authorities and Cataloging system... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3033ae17c2c4c9f846a0c405a682469303c614f> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25101: Add ability to skip previewing results when batch extending due dates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c41597add3e5cd47109215f30bff889b9ae49176> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Code changes needed for replacing opac_news.timestamp <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75bb7b5b2e27060f1ca25313eac5a003df4f334b> 13:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Database revision <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9205bc1ec34e71995540d532d22ba4c63a593eaf> 13:36 tcohen cait1 I asked a question here, that you're the one to answer I belive https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26327#c11 13:36 huginn Bug 26327: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Include transacting library in fines 13:48 * ashimema[m] just stole a QA from Tomas 13:48 ashimema[m] sorry tcohen ;) 13:48 tcohen wait what? 13:48 wahanui well, wait is that one debit or credit? I always confuse the two 13:49 ashimema[m] I QA'd something that had your name on it 13:49 caroline same wahanui! 13:49 ashimema[m] didn't spot your name until after I had gone through the process.. 13:49 ashimema[m] Kyles SIP holds block bug 13:49 ashimema[m] bug 25541 13:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add ability to prevent checkin via SIP of items with holds 13:51 ashimema[m] the QA queue is kinda crazy low... did you get the branding iron out or something whilst I was away? 14:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #56: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/56/ 14:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #77: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/77/ 14:26 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:26 wahanui Congratulations! 14:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #377: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/377/ 14:32 oleonard_ Hi ivan_ and enkidu 14:33 ivan_ oleonard_: hi, how are you? Ready help me? :) 14:33 ivan_ with elasticsearch 14:33 oleonard_ haha, not with elasticsearch! I don't know about that. 14:34 oleonard_ But ask anyway and if anyone else here knows the answer they can chime in 14:36 ivan_ after command `misc/search_tools/rebuild_elasticsearch.pl -v -d` I see error 14:36 lukeG Joubu around? 14:37 Joubu yes 14:37 ivan_ [Request] ** [http://localhost:9200]-[400] [illegal_argument_exception] Custom Analyzer [analyzer_phrase] failed to find filter under name [icu_folding], called from sub Search::Elasticsearch::Role::Client::Direct::__ANON__ at /inlibro/git/koha-oralise-dev-inlibro/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/Indexer.pm line 341. With vars: {'body' => {'status' => 400,'error' => {'type' => 'illegal_argument_exception','reason' => 'Custom Analyzer [analyzer_phrase] failed 14:37 ivan_ What is this? Thanks 14:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #401: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/401/ 14:38 lukeG Joubu: im testing Bug 26265 on 20.05, after adding the patches I missed I am still failing tests on xt/check_makefile.t 14:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26265 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Makefile.PL is missing pos directory 14:38 vfernandes ivan_ -> which ES version are you using? 14:38 lukeG not ok 1 - All directories must be listed in Makefile.PL 14:38 Joubu lukeG: which directories? 14:38 ivan_ vfernandes: 5.6 14:38 Joubu It can happen locally if you have untracked dir 14:38 ivan_ vfernandes: 5.6.4 14:39 ivan_ vfernandes: "number": "5.6.16" 14:39 vfernandes did you install analysis-icu? sudo /usr/share/elasticsearch/bin/elasticsearch-plugin install analysis-icu 14:39 ivan_ vfernandes: yes, I did it 14:40 ivan_ sudo /usr/share/elasticsearch/bin/elasticsearch-plugin install analysis-icu [sudo] password for ivan: -> Downloading analysis-icu from elastic [=================================================] 100%Â Â -> Installed analysis-icu 14:40 lukeG Joubu: thank you 14:42 vfernandes did you restarted ES after installing? 14:43 ivan_ vfernandes: no :) 14:46 vfernandes try it :) 14:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #84: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/84/ 14:56 vfernandes ivan_: worked? 14:59 ivan_ vfernandes: yes Thanks!) It remains to understand the name of the index, which I created :) 15:00 cait1 ... to do what with? 15:01 cait1 sorry, my window was stuck, that was referring to ashimema's ealrier branding iron comment 15:02 ashimema[m] just impressed by the QA queue.. I've not seen it this low in many months.. 15:02 ashimema[m] but yeah.. The SO queue is high 15:02 Joubu s/months/years actually 15:03 ashimema[m] indeed 15:03 ashimema[m] cait1 is amazing.. 15:04 cait1 i added the SO queue to tonight's agenda 15:04 cait1 i thnk we need to think about some event or so - or maybe put in newsletter etc. 15:04 oleonard Oh I'm glad you mentioned the agenda, I forgot there was a meeting 15:05 cait1 ;) 15:06 * ashimema[m] still has another 215 emails to work through since coming back from vacation 15:06 ashimema[m] soooo much bugmail 15:07 cait1 sorry not sorry ;) 15:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1420: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1420/ 15:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #64: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/64/ 15:14 reiveune bye 15:18 ivan_ vfernandes: My koha-conf.xml for elasticsearch is <index_name>test_index</index_name> . Why I can't see this index on the page http://localhost:9200/test_index/_search ? "status": 404 15:18 oleonard I wonder if my regular patch-testers are on vacation. I'm going through signoff withdrawal. 15:19 lukeG oleonard is there anything in particular I could test for you? 15:19 oleonard @later tell oleonard_ You should test Bug 26305 15:19 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 15:19 caroline oleonard: we have a new itern and I told him to check for your bugs 15:19 oleonard lukeG nothing in particular I'm just complaining :) 15:20 lukeG :) 15:21 oleonard Thanks caroline, I was hoping your intern could test the JS internationalization bugs in particular. 15:21 caroline I'll let him know 15:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #339: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/339/ 15:33 ivan_ how to find the index of elasticsearch through the address bar? (ex. http://localhost:9200/index_name/type_doc/_search) Thanks 15:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #884: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/884/ 15:36 oleonard tcohen around? 15:36 tcohen around-ish 15:36 tcohen yes 15:37 oleonard I've got weird issues with indexing zebra that I think are docker-related 15:38 oleonard zebraidx(36201) [warn] Cannot open `/tmp/fh6pFlDVON/etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios-dom.cfg' [No such file or directory] 15:38 oleonard The config information it displays at the start of the rebuild says "Zebra biblio directory = /tmp/fh6pFlDVON/var/lib/zebradb/biblios" 15:39 tcohen does that happen when running tests? 15:39 tcohen is it plain KTD? 15:39 oleonard Yes, on Mac. 15:40 oleonard I got other errors when running tests, Cannot open /tmp/fh6pFlDVON/etc/koha/log4perl.conf (No such file or directory) 15:40 caroline Is the elasticsearch guru kidclamp? 15:41 oleonard And spiritual guru 15:41 tcohen oleonard you could try deleting the existing volumes 15:41 caroline and mustache guru 15:42 tcohen oleonard zebra_config.pl 15:42 tcohen might be generating those bad paths 15:42 oleonard How do I delete volumes? 15:42 tcohen docker volume prune 15:43 tcohen and then recreate the KTD stuff 15:43 oleonard Okay cool I always forget that that is a step I can take to refresh things 15:44 tcohen yes but 15:44 tcohen zebra_config.pl and t/Logger.t 15:44 tcohen they both share the recreation of config files on temporary places 15:44 tcohen so this might be a problem 15:45 tcohen it should be using /var/tmp/koha/kohadev 15:45 tcohen soirry, /var/lib/koha//kohadev/tmp 15:45 tcohen what KOHA_IMAGE have you set? 15:47 oleonard master 15:48 tcohen so stretch 15:49 tcohen I cannot reproduce 15:49 tcohen try docker system prune -a 15:49 tcohen and docker volume prune 15:49 oleonard It looks like "docker volume prune" did the trick 15:50 oleonard The zebra biblio directory looks correct now 15:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:50 wahanui Congratulations! 15:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #71: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/71/ 15:50 tcohen great, oleonard 15:50 oleonard What a weird problem 15:51 oleonard Thanks for your help tcohen 15:54 tcohen oleonard on Mac, we found that the docker subsystem uses a portion of the filesystem for the volumes, a fixed size thing 15:54 tcohen and when it fills up 15:54 tcohen weird behaviours are seen 15:56 oleonard The prune process did say it cleared up over 8GB 15:57 tcohen \o/ 15:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #59: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/59/ 16:02 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:02 wahanui Congratulations! 16:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #77: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/77/ 16:02 kidclamp ivan_: I don't know, that used to work for me, but hasn't in a long time 16:03 kidclamp koha_instance_biblios/data/ 16:03 kidclamp Those are index and type 16:03 kidclamp _authorities for authorities 16:05 ivan_ kidclamp: yes, thanks 16:06 caroline Is it snob of me to think we should change "librarian" for "library staff"? (ex. Note: Your comment must be approved by a librarian.) 16:10 oleonard I like that suggestion 16:10 * oleonard is a "librarian" without a degree so is biased ;) 16:14 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:14 wahanui Congratulations! 16:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #67: FIXED in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/67/ 16:30 ivandz test... 16:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #58: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/58/ 16:31 ivandz caroline, test 16:31 oleonard What are you testing ivandz? 16:31 * caroline waves at ivandz 16:32 caroline he is one of my new coworkers :) we just installed an IRC client 16:32 oleonard Welcome, ivandz :) 16:33 * ashimema[m] quietly weeps into his keyboard whilst trying to rebase a test he only wrote a week ago but now can't remember at all 16:34 oleonard I know the pain of trying to rebase a patch when you've forgotten what you did :( 16:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:34 wahanui Congratulations! 16:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #62: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/62/ 16:34 ashimema[m] The most anoying part of it.. I also wrote the patch that breaks it to require the rebase 16:35 oleonard You villain. 16:46 ashimema[m] lol 17:01 ivandz oleonard, HexChat I am ivan (elasticsearch) 17:05 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:05 wahanui Congratulations! 17:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #60: FIXED in 1 hr 5 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/60/ 18:16 oleonard Anyone else get an error in master from circ/transferstoreceive.pl? 18:16 oleonard Can't call method "description" on an undefined value at /kohadevbox/koha/circ/transferstoreceive.pl line 98 18:20 caroline hm, right now no, I can see my transfers to receive.., but let me update my master 18:22 caroline still good... :/ 18:25 oleonard My day for weird errors 18:37 caroline oleonard: do you think the community would be interested in something like this for comments? https://snipboard.io/3CNEGP.jpg 18:37 caroline A client is asking for this and I was wonering if we should develop it with the community in mind 18:38 caroline I think it looks kinda cool 18:44 oleonard Putting comments into the sidebar instead of under a tab? 18:44 caroline yeah, with a title and the stars 18:50 oleonard It think it would be an appealing option 18:51 oleonard Grouping the rating with the comment shows that it would make sense for us to add the star ratings input on the comment form 18:53 caroline that was part of my specs, doesn't exclude that it could be standalon also, if someone only wants to rate it and not enter a comment 18:57 * oleonard forbids anyone from submitting an OPAC patch until Bug 20168 is pushed 18:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4 18:57 * oleonard brandishes a cutlass menacingly 18:59 * oleonard , scared of the cutlass, resists the urge to write a patch putting the comment form into a modal window 19:26 cait oleonard-away: you make me wonder if i should look up that unknown word or not 19:33 caroline cait: it's just a type of sword I think 19:34 cait i can't really imagine oleonard wielding a sword... or well, maybe 19:57 tuxayo Apologies, can't attend to the meeting. 20:00 * oleonard brandishes his cutlass at tuxayo 20:01 cait scary 20:02 cait Joubu: around? :) 20:03 * oleonard brandishes his cutlass at Joubu 20:03 cait hm not keen on running meetings this time of day anymore 20:03 cait a little too sleepy 20:04 caroline I can try 20:04 oleonard If almost no one is around we should just postpone 20:04 caroline who is around for the meeting? 20:04 caroline me 20:04 cait maybe we could have a mini one? 20:05 davidnind Where are all the New Zealanders?:) 20:05 cait I#d really like to discuss ideas about getting more sign offs in 20:05 cait tiny bit too ealry still for them maybe 20:05 caroline ok, well, lets do one and the others can just read the minutes and accept whatever we decicde :_) 20:05 davidnind It's 8am, so probably on the cusp... 20:06 cait code names for releases! 20:06 * cait goes to add all her secret plans to the agenda for voting 20:06 cait donnab: meet with us? :) 20:06 caroline ok I'll start then 20:06 caroline #startmeeting General IRC meeting 2 September 2020 20:06 huginn Meeting started Wed Sep 2 20:06:40 2020 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:06 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:06 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_2_september_2020' 20:06 caroline chair cait 20:06 cait with # :) 20:06 caroline #chair cait 20:06 huginn Current chairs: cait caroline 20:07 caroline sorry! 20:07 davidnind #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_2_September_2020 20:07 caroline #topic Introductions 20:07 cait we can do it all together 20:07 caroline (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes) 20:07 cait #chair davidnind 20:07 huginn Current chairs: cait caroline davidnind 20:07 donnab #info Donna Bachowski, ByWater Solutions 20:07 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 20:07 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 20:07 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 20:08 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 20:08 lisettelatah #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District, Idaho, USA 20:08 kathryn #info Kathryn Tyree, Catalyst IT, New Zealand 20:08 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 20:09 edveal #info Ed Veal, McKinney Public Library 20:09 caroline #topic Announcements 20:10 caroline anything to annouce? 20:10 cait not from me 20:10 caroline there is no specific agenda point for kohacon 20:10 cait yep, just noticed too 20:10 caroline is there anything new? 20:11 cait kathryn: maybe? 20:11 kathryn Kia ora, 46 days away eep! 20:11 caroline yas! 20:11 kathryn #info We need people to register please regardless if they are coming in person or online 20:11 * cait is registered virtually :) 20:11 kathryn :) 20:12 kathryn #info the programme looks excellent, we're starting to work on some online social events which you'll hear more about soon 20:12 caroline is there a way to check if we're registered? I'm pretty sure I did it, but now i'm not sure anymore 20:12 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:12 kathryn just ask, we don't mind caroline 20:13 lisettelatah The Koha-US 2020 Conference schedule and registration are live on our website. 20:13 lisettelatah http://koha-us.org/learn/conferences/onlinetogether2020/ 20:14 cait thx lisettelatah 20:15 caroline lisettelatah: this is this month right? 20:15 cait #info The Koha-US 2020 Conference schedule and registration are live on their website 20:15 lisettelatah yes, the dates are September 22nd-24th 20:15 cait #link http://koha-us.org/learn/conferences/onlinetogether2020/ 20:15 kathryn Also Alex from Catalyst and Jessie at Bywater did a webinar last week, which has about 10,000 views so far - if that keeps up we can expect a lot of engagement in our online events, during and after 20:15 cait #info dates are September 22nd-24th 20:15 kathryn I need to find the link... 20:16 davidnind #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BUsdC61B6Y 20:17 kathryn thank you davidnind, I found every other link possible :) 20:18 kathryn #info the above link is for the International Koha Webinar kindly hosted by the North Eastern Hill University last week 20:18 kathryn (no more from me) 20:19 caroline #topic Update on releases 20:19 caroline Joubu says Everything is going well. Still need urgent feedback on bug 20271 (Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables). 20:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables 20:20 caroline re: 20.11 20:20 cait #info oubu says Everything is going well. Still need urgent feedback on bug 20271 (Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables). 20:20 cait hm, J went missing... 20:20 oleonard I didn't see that Bug 20271 had gone into 'in discussion' 20:20 cait missed it too, bit behind there 20:21 caroline anything from our rmaints? 20:21 cait rmaints? 20:21 wahanui lukeG, aleisha, and tuxayo, I SUMMON THEE!! 20:21 caroline I saw that there was a tiny rmaint meeting the other day :D 20:21 caroline tuxayo said he wouldn't be here 20:21 cait #info congratulations to the well coordinated security releases! 20:21 kathryn Aleisha asked me to pass this along: 20:22 tcohen aleisha++ 20:22 tcohen tuxayo++ 20:22 tcohen lukeG++ 20:22 tcohen Joubu++ 20:22 cait mtj++ 20:22 tcohen mtj++ 20:22 tcohen team_work++ 20:22 cait aleisha++ tuxayo++ lukeG++ 20:22 cait balance :) 20:22 kathryn #info Aleisha would like to note that the wiki needs work on security release guidance, but the team worked well together to get it out 20:23 cait if there are any issues, please feel free to add questions or anything that was missing 20:23 tcohen there will be a new security release soon, so we'll see what we've learnt :-D 20:23 cait i think the current write up dates back to me 20:23 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance#Coordinated_security_releases 20:24 kathryn cait It sounded like there were some changes/discussions by email maybe, I don't know all the details sorry 20:24 cait that's ok - we need constant improvement 20:24 kathryn of course! 20:24 tcohen better each time :-D 20:25 cait as you can tell from the version noted there (17.05) it's been around a while :) 20:25 kathryn yep! 20:26 caroline #topic Encourage community sign-offs 20:26 caroline #info At the moment the QA queue is emptying out while the numbers in "needs Signoff" are rising steadily. We should discuss ways to actively encourage sign-offs and testing. 20:26 cait that's from me 20:27 cait as you can tell... having the qa queue at 6 or even 5 was a pretty nice feeling, but it's NOT NORMAL :) 20:27 cait I think we have a problem with the SO queue right now 20:27 cait i was hoping we could brainstorm a bit to see if we can come with some things 20:28 davidnind The dashboard: https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 20:28 cait maybe we could think of having anothe rtesting event? 20:29 cait the webinar style ones were a pretty big hit the last time we had a testing day 20:29 tcohen I think we haven't been focused on some big things 20:29 cait and... we got some sign offs 20:29 tcohen that demand hours 20:29 caroline there is something on sept 24 with koha-us 20:29 cait lisettelatah: still around maybe? 20:29 lisettelatah Yes 20:30 lisettelatah we are focusing the third day of the conference as a bug-a-palooza. I'm going to start with a webinar/demo of finding a bug and doing a few signoffs. 20:30 cait looking for somoene to promote testing and sign offs at the US event :) 20:30 cait awesome 20:30 davidnind lisettelatah++ 20:31 tcohen lisettelatah++ 20:31 CrispyBran bug-a-palooza sounds so Americany 20:31 cait #info Koha US/lisettelatah: we are focusing the third day of the conference as a bug-a-palooza. I'm going to start with a webinar/demo of finding a bug and doing a few signoffs. 20:31 cait it is... but in a nice way kinda to me 20:31 ashimema[m] sorry I'm late 20:31 lisettelatah The rest of the day we are wanting to keep doing testing and also encourage discussion of bugs that line up with our Special Interest Groups (Webdev, acquisitions, etc) and try and get more signoffs and also discussions. 20:31 cait ashimema[m]: quite right to help with ideas on improving bug flow 20:32 CrispyBran We are all about making up words or re-using parts of words. 20:32 cait lisettelatah: comments/questions on bugs are great too 20:32 * ashimema[m] reads back a bit 20:33 caroline Test plans are a big part for me... I was looking for easy-ish bugs to SO for our new employees, and I had to skip a couple that didn't have good test plans 20:33 cait definitely 20:33 cait asking for a better test plan is totally valid too 20:33 cait if somehing looks to hard to test, feel free to tell the devs 20:33 caroline ok I'll keep that in mins 20:33 caroline mind 20:33 thd lisettlelatah: Will the third day conference be recorded in some way for later access and review? 20:35 lisettelatah The Sandboxes demo at the start will be. Since the rest will mostly be more freeform than the other recordings we weren't planning on it, but if people think it would be helpful I'll bring it up at our next meeting. 20:36 cait #info We are in need of more testers and sign-offs, please help us out! 20:37 cait I don't have anymore.. maybe we need to keep thinking about it 20:37 caroline It'll be interesting to see how the bug-a-palooza will go, maybe it's something we could do on a regular basis? 20:37 cait we used to have gbsd = global bug squashing days 20:37 caroline like stream an intro and then have a bug squash 20:37 cait yeah 20:38 lukeG I will try to be better about signing off on things! 20:38 caroline did the last one go well? 20:38 cait i think KohaCon also plans for some kind of virtual hackfest 20:38 thd In general it would be helpful to have explanations of X in various formats including video if it can be done and better persisted on Youtube or some such place than in a less accessible Zoom silo. 20:38 cait caroline: i tihnk the last event we had went well, but there also was a bug squash session from bywater 20:38 cait so that combination seems to be a good idea 20:38 kathryn Kohacon hack fest "DIY" is Sat-Sun NZ time22-23 Oct 20:39 kathryn We're naming it DIY to encourage non developers to come too :) 20:39 cait i like it :) 20:40 ashimema[m] +1 20:40 cait moving on? 20:40 caroline sure 20:40 kathryn Btw, DIY means do it yourself 20:40 caroline #topic Actions from last meeting 20:40 caroline the only action point from last meeting is caroline will change the message in the manual saying that the staff side doesn't work with IE 20:41 caroline and I scrambled earlier to see if I had done it hehe XD 20:41 caroline yes i did https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/blob/master/source/intro.rst 20:41 davidnind caroline++ 20:41 caroline with oleonard's help to make sure the english was ok 20:42 cait caroline++ oleonard++ :) 20:42 caroline alright, so only point left is next meeting 20:42 caroline #topic set time of next meeting 20:42 caroline october 7? 20:43 cait we probably are missing a bit chance tonight ot make some radical decisions :) 20:43 cait sounds good 20:43 caroline like? 20:43 wahanui like is it possible to translate to all calendar systems you use from one calendar system 20:43 caroline what kind of radical decisions did you want to make ? lol 20:43 oleonard wahanui is down for radical change 20:44 kathryn I approve teleporting you all to Kohacon 20:44 cait yeah :) 20:44 caroline do we keep the meeting at this time for kohacon updates? 20:44 cait +1! 20:44 kathryn I would really appreciate that! 20:44 cait as we get so close that makes sense to me 20:45 kathryn it's in our team calendar now :) 20:45 caroline #info Next meeting: 7 October 2020, 20 UTC 20:45 caroline #endmeeting 20:45 huginn Meeting ended Wed Sep 2 20:45:40 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 20:45 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_2_september_2020.2020-09-02-20.06.html 20:45 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_2_september_2020.2020-09-02-20.06.txt 20:45 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_2_september_2020.2020-09-02-20.06.log.html 20:45 davidnind caroline++ 20:46 cait caroline++ 20:46 kathryn good night/good day everyone :) 20:46 caroline ashimema[m]: do you still have to manually run the thingy to add the next meeting to the calendar? 20:46 caroline (and create minutes) 20:46 ashimema[m] me or joubu 20:48 * ashimema[m] is on his phone though at the minute rather than computer 20:48 caroline no worries... I just wanted to know if I should remind you or if it's somehow automated now 21:49 wizzyrea aleisha++ 22:18 lukeG anyone else getting a JS. error on /cgi-bin/koha/circ/returns.pl in 20.05.x? 22:41 oleonard-away At what stage lukeG? 22:42 lukeG I see it right away, before I do anything 22:43 lukeG Uncaught SyntaxError: expected expression, got keyword 'var' 22:44 lukeG i think it doesn't like this line in returns.tt 22:44 lukeG var columns_settings = [% TablesSettings.GetColumns( 'circ', 'returns', 'checkedintable', 'json' ) | $raw %] 22:45 oleonard-away I don't get that error. Check the source to see if that template tag is getting evaluated to something sane. 22:47 lukeG it appears to be getting evaluated as empty or NULL because all I see is 'var columns_settings =' 22:56 oleonard-away Any luck figuring out why, lukeG? 22:57 lukeG not yet 22:57 lukeG oleonard-away: is your 20.05.x up to date? 22:58 lukeG i checked master and 19.11, and I don't see the error 22:58 oleonard-away Oh sorry I should have said I was looking at master 22:59 lukeG Oh sorry, it seems to be a 20.05.x only problem 22:59 lukeG So something I did wrong, I'd reckon 23:00 lukeG https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26361 23:00 huginn Bug 26361: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , JS error on returns.tt in 20.05