Time  Nick         Message
23:59 * oleonard   hears "step 18" and gets scared
23:57 davidnind    aleisha: I got up to step 18 last night, so far so good - will probably take to the weekend before I get through the it all! (Very nice detailed test plan!!!)
23:53 davidnind    oleonard: nice!
23:52 oleonard     A preview of what I've been tinkering with today: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15934747011658
23:44 aleisha      yes, it was heavily scope creeped sadly
23:43 * oleonard   laments that that process was not great
23:42 aleisha      awesome tuxayo! no you're not too early, it does need thorough testing especially because i developed a basic version years ago that our clients have been using and i've since been growing (which is why the test plan is so huge now!)
23:41 tuxayo       It was to be sure that it won't be too early and many things risk to change.
23:41 tuxayo       aleisha: Ok then I need to get pumped up for the 154 step signoff!
23:39 aleisha      hi tuxayo, it needs signoff in master. it's been in production for our clients for a couple of years now at 19.11.x so i've rebased it for master
23:39 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha
23:39 tuxayo       i.e. what's the first need? Functional validation or signoff?
23:39 tuxayo       hi aleisha o/ Has bug 19532 received positive feedback about it's working?
22:26 CrispyBran   khall, are you around?>
21:22 ashimema     😀
21:18 tuxayo       (don't know much about tarot)
21:18 tuxayo       That was some high level stuff ^^" . Thanks for the explanation.
21:18 tuxayo       Context: cooking. Conclusion: question about what is going to be made/eaten.
21:18 tuxayo       ashimema: Ok, «Anything nice on the cards?» => what's coming?
21:12 * ashimema   is terrible for translation... Sorry,.. typical Brit :(
21:11 ashimema     Basically.. Cait asked me about dinner.. my reply asked her the same.. lol
21:11 ashimema     Comes from.. tarot cards.. as in predicting the future but turning over cards (I thought tarot was french?).. the phrase 'on the cards' translates to what's happening in the near future for you.
21:09 ashimema     Wasn't aware that particular idiom didn't translate well..
21:09 ashimema     Haha, tuxayo
21:05 aleisha      hi
20:54 cait         food tuxayo , real food :)
20:45 wahanui      thanks tuxayo :)
20:45 tuxayo       wahanui: botsnack
20:44 tuxayo       It worked!
20:44 wahanui      spaghetti is Spaghetti code? http://matthewturland.com/slides/php55oop/img/spaghetti-code.png
20:44 tuxayo       cait: spaghetti?
20:35 cait         ashimema:  ;)
20:35 cait         spaghetti with chili and cream cheese
20:32 tuxayo       [1] https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/on+the+cards
20:32 tuxayo       Even after reading [1] I don't get it ^^"
20:32 tuxayo       > Anything nice on the cards for you?
19:41 ashimema     Anything nice on the cards for you?
19:41 ashimema     It was lovely
19:41 ashimema     Pad Thai
19:41 cait         :P
19:40 ashimema     Dinner Cait :p
18:51 kidclamp     Muahahaha
18:47 oleonard     kidclamp were you laughing diabolically and you thought no one was listening?
18:39 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:39 tcohen       @later tell Joubu here: https://gitlab.com/thekesolutions/Koha/-/commits/qa_20271
18:25 kidclamp     but was laughing elsewhere
18:25 kidclamp     oops, I mean, you can all know I laiughed
18:25 kidclamp     heheh
18:24 cait         what didyou cook, ashimema?
17:31 ashimema     thanks oleonard.. I was cooking tea ;)
17:05 tuxayo       oleonard++
16:58 oleonard     It didn't look like anyone had yet, so I added the dev meeting to the shared Google calendar
16:49 cait1        time to make dinner - have a nice evening all
16:49 * cait1      waves
16:32 huginn       cait1: The operation succeeded.
16:32 cait1        @later tell magnuse I'd like to talk ILL with you!
16:32 cait1        not a vacation message at least :)
16:32 huginn       cait1: magnuse was last seen in #koha 3 days, 4 hours, 1 minute, and 59 seconds ago: <magnuse> oleonard++
16:32 cait1        @seen magnuse
16:15 tuxayo       The wiki page is there: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_1_July_2020
16:15 reiveune     bye
16:14 ashimema     It should be there tuxayo.. did we not run the meeting script.. are the wiki pages missing too?
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15:46 cait1        sorry for being a bit grouchy today
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15:41 cait1        that shoudl happen automatically, something might have gone wrong
15:41 cait1        ashimema: maybe?
15:39 tuxayo       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_1_July_2020
15:39 tuxayo       https://koha-community.org/calendar/
15:39 tuxayo       Can someone add the next (very soon) dev meeting to the calendar?
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15:24 cait1        really odd, i remember tcohen commented on it, but can't find it :(
15:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #360: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/360/
15:20 cait1        have a nice evening :)
15:20 cait1        oh just missed him :)
15:20 cait1        http://paste.koha-community.org/24318
15:20 ashimema     have a good evening Joubu
15:19 Joubu        see you tomorrow #koha
15:19 Joubu        I have to run, I can have a look tomorrow
15:18 cait1        The web server reported a bad gateway error. (i am breaking all teh things today)
15:18 cait1        hm gitlab gives me some strange errors currently
15:17 Joubu        it remembers something, but cannot fin dit
15:17 Joubu        on gitlab, right?
15:17 cait1        i am looking for it, i might have filed it wrong
15:17 Joubu        I don't find the issue
15:15 cait1        i've the same problem on both my kohadevboxes
15:15 cait1        it#s a permission issue i think
15:14 cait1        Joubu: it's broken, I filed and you guys ignore it ;)
15:14 cait1        hm you can just type the date directly
15:14 Joubu        what's the problem with setup_sip cait1?
15:14 ashimema     and the calendar date picked is apparently not great.. it should be keyboard navigable without having to hold 'shift'
15:13 ashimema     oh..
15:13 ashimema     and the browse shelf has some issues
15:13 ashimema     stuff gets overlapped all over the place when you zoom to 200%.. in particular the links of the right of the page get overlapped by the item details table when in the item detail page
15:13 * cait1      goes to comment out setup_sip.pl in misc4dev again :(
15:13 ashimema     the table on the cart page is bad.. basically needs replacing aparently
15:12 ashimema     I have three to go
15:07 cait1        if these weren't hte hard ones... which are?
15:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/25/
15:00 ashimema     now on to the hard ones
14:59 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25244 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Accessibility: Checkboxes on the search results page do not contain specific aria labels
14:59 ashimema     bug 25244 is ready for testing.. next of the opac accessibility bugs and last of the easy ones I think :(
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14:23 oleonard     Yeah that's the actual answer. We are living the open source dream.
14:18 cait1        it's jsut that we are so creative that we still keep on improving things in a changing world.. or something
14:17 nlegrand     :D
14:07 cait1        but it stings a bit :)
14:07 cait1        me too
14:07 cait1        lol
14:07 oleonard     Kids can be so cruel :)
14:07 ashimema     I just literally laughed out loud at that
14:06 oleonard     My son asked me the other day why I had so much work to do on Koha. "Was the first version really so bad that you're still fixing bugs??"
14:06 ashimema     haha
14:05 cait1        why do we still think of so many things?
14:05 cait1        i already have like 5 new items on my list of 'to file bugs' from today for alter
14:05 cait1        :)
14:02 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , tmp_holdsqueue should have a timestamp
14:02 oleonard     ashimema cait, while we're talking about the frequency of building the holds queue.... Bug 18440
13:49 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Fix creation of PO file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=133a3ef168af12897ba4c670db25d674fc876864>
13:49 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Ignore .perlcriticrc in t/Makefile.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=343a866b6fd6850edde89a79b0c534ee2f494f4b>
13:49 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Fix C4/Barcodes/ValueBuilder.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b06780fb29467fd4276dd25d92fca375a382471>
13:49 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Fix misc/admin/koha-preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3f0fc135b0b73b7dcf7fee09ca30a42e2e514a3>
13:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1377: UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1377/
13:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #30: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/30/
13:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #336: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/336/
13:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #359: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/359/
12:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #12: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/12/
12:51 cait1        Joubu++
12:46 cait1        50?
12:45 cait1        ?
12:45 cait1        someof our prefs are quite long - maybe give some spaceß
12:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #24: UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/24/
12:44 oleonard     Does anyone else have an opinion?
12:44 oleonard     ^^ I'm concerned that 'varchar(30)' might still be too short
12:44 huginn       Bug 23797: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Convert OpacLoginInstructions system preference to news block
12:44 oleonard     https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23797#c6
12:43 nlegrand     hey cait1 !
12:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #17: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/17/
12:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #285: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/285/
12:30 cait1        and https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2020-June/054780.html
12:29 cait1        I notice more installation questions on the mailnig list lately - I can't really help muh with those. would be nice if someone could take a look: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2020-June/054770.html
12:25 cait1        if you check the logs , it hink we found the issue - it's configuration related
12:24 cait1        ok
12:24 Null404      cait1: I'm on 18.11.16.000
12:24 Null404      okay I'm back
12:23 cait1        and thank you - I really like the changes
12:23 cait1        promising quick QA after :)
12:23 cait1        thank you
12:22 oleonard     Okay, will do
12:22 cait1        yes
12:22 oleonard     cait1 I should update all the other languages?
12:22 cait1        oleonard: there are also .sql files still in use for the installer (bridge)
12:20 * cait1      waves
12:18 kidclamp     back a little later
12:18 tcohen       morning
12:17 cait1        we shoudl probably change the formating so it doesn't look like pull downs in this case?
12:17 cait1        same here
12:17 cait1        yes
12:16 oleonard     Ah, that's it kidclamp (at least in master)
12:16 cait1        oh
12:16 kidclamp     I think that disabled number changing, as the numbers are 'different; when split
12:16 kidclamp     is HoldsSplitQueue enabled?
12:14 cait1        pull downs with numbers
12:14 cait1        in 18.11.16 the pull downs work for me - i am looking on the detail page holds tab
12:14 cait1        which 18.11.x?
12:09 Null404      I'm on Koha 18.11
12:06 oleonard     I don't know why... it looks like a bug
12:05 Null404      numbers are unclickable... strange
12:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #831: ABORTED in 14 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/831/
12:04 Null404      okay, I found it - I need to click on green arrows not on numbers
12:03 Null404      I mean in "Holds" tab in catalog on selected book
12:02 oleonard     Null404 do you mean from the holds queue report page?
11:51 Null404      is there any way to change manually priority in "hold queue" on book ?
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Make perlcritic happy <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b168f4a2e9a03ed56ce857353d4dde940980caba>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Updating text display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=62a6ed54bbb77f5512293255fe9be7548724c556>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Adding age to check out search dropdown <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=507f48a438ad2e5bb9000027f2a6081e76108adb>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Restore 'years' string, remove untranslatable string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30e5985aa1babc2f5c9ab2bc7c00e99c12a0d815>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Add class to years span <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd7490c8080e3b90c28c088568a2c4183e7deed3>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23410: Add submenus to system preferences sidebar menu <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d890c7636ef1d6ec0a1de2161906fd9f4375e97>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 15400: Clarify usage of patron-age.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2207a080beaa6606e598ae9ee9e1f772e1784ce>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Remove line break <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9391d3b263c324f096bbc75a62aa584753351a46>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Fix QA errors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1682341b5849c34e59597cda780d4c877d6f3278>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fix for "CGI::param called in list context" in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb8a0ffcc1bb4d751daa4221bd37faa815904db8>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Extra duplicated call to CGI->param method removed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9ba7151667bc6481bc97335b94e44487c9701bd>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fix for "uninitialized value in hash" warning in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b48162f1be1853a89e0ffc898bc0927edef93f95>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fix for "uninitialized value in string eq" in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5eebfcf68747b4886b23a9d4c8df37ea7d103edb>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fix for "uninitialized $maxsuspensiondays" in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb09303e11b11de2b25852a707211a054fb2b8e1>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fixed list of 'show_rule' forming variables in the template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d11e16aec74ad694bd56ce3810954091b0bf1259>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 15400: Add class on patron brief info to allow hiding date of birth <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=281c93ed03ceede3914a7bbdd28ef4e8bfc339be>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21395: (QA follow-up) Remove some introduced issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e968af43777d47c9134ea1875270af9661ef2f5a>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21395: (QA follow-up) POD fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9e526a12fb338736e149934526e38da782f048f>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Remove unnecessary class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cab6e03b35ef96ebd520e4b3b314381b85c5eda>
11:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Remove 'variable $DEBUG masks earlier declaration in same scope' warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=61aa3f794240443f5c2c99adc016f0d80c7251d9>
11:49 Null404      hello
11:24 oleonard     Hi #koha
09:59 ashimema     been meaning to for a few days
09:58 cait1        ashimema++ thx for SO
09:47 cait1        work just never ends
09:46 cait1        ok, will try to take a look at that
09:46 cait1        ah no you are fixing it
09:46 cait1        ;)
09:46 cait1        well i could make it faster, but you broke my workflow
09:46 cait1        which means a longer extra step
09:46 cait1        and now i always have to change the directory to git first
09:45 Joubu        yes
09:45 cait1        i always do kshell - qa script
09:45 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Current directory not kept when using koha-create
09:45 Joubu        bug 25752
09:45 cait1        Joubu: hm something changed tehre then
09:45 cait1        i will try to see
09:45 Joubu        it's kohadev-koha home directory
09:45 cait1        it could be another setting affecting it... but not sure which it could be
09:45 Joubu        ok opac-side as well
09:44 cait1        will hae to investigate later
09:42 cait1        it's quite annoying
09:42 cait1        i haven't taken a note which one.... it's still koha files, but outside the git repository
09:41 cait1        when i got into kshell i end up in some strange directory
09:40 cait1        i also have another strange issue since my last reset_all
09:40 cait1        can you check opac too? I wonder what it could have been, i'll try again
09:40 cait1        I couldn't get that to work last night
09:40 Joubu        cait1: master - https://snipboard.io/a8ld1q.jpg
09:39 Joubu        cait1: looks ok for me (staff)
09:34 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25888 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , (Opac)SeparateHoldings functionality appears to be broken
09:34 cait1        bug 25888
09:34 cait1        could someone double check my bug about OpacSeparateHoldings?
09:25 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25723 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Improve efficiency of holiday calculation
09:25 ashimema     me would like someone to take a look at bug 25723 too before the idea's behind it dribble out of my brain
09:24 ashimema     I just spotted you had renamed it ;
09:24 ashimema     no worries.
09:02 cait1        i might look at some ILL bugs tody, but that's because I can fit them into work time
09:02 cait1        i mean QA
09:02 cait1        not before tonight
08:55 ashimema     I just added a followup to it ;)
08:55 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25850 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , CalcDateDue freezes with 'useDaysMode' set to 'Dayweek' and the due date lands on a Sunday
08:55 ashimema     cait.. are you mid QA of bug 25850 per chance?
08:55 ashimema     morning
06:48 cait         hi nlegrand :)
06:47 alex_a       Bonjour
06:42 wahanui      kia ora, reiveune
06:42 reiveune     hello
06:21 nlegrand     sholem aleikhem