Time Nick Message 00:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #243: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/243/ 00:32 oleonard alexbuckley++ 00:36 alexbuckley thanks for doing that fix oleonard-away! 02:21 tuxayo hayleymapley_: hi :) Yeah none of the choice seen really bad. 02:49 Abam Hi All, 02:51 Abam I'm a Koha newbie and trying to set it up at my school. We would like to be able to use Koha on multiple machines but I don't know how to do this yet. My coding skills are limited and we are using a virtual box on Windows to access Koha, any advice greatly appreciated 05:04 gautam HI there, 05:04 wahanui i heard HI there, was anyone available to give me some advice? Our koha admin site has been down for about a week now, just returning a error 400 page. It looks like it's returning broken html, with the formatting all wrong. I've spent multiple probably a dozen hours on this issue, but am making zero progress. Can anyone advise? 05:06 gautam I want to know that how to find all sql queries are using in particular URL or api. 05:28 hayleymapley__ see yas tomorrow! 05:28 hayleymapley__ sorry gautam I'm not sure 05:34 fridolin hi 06:57 mtj hi gautam: have you looked at the log files yet, for your 400 error? 06:59 alex_a Bonjour 06:59 wahanui niihau, alex_a 07:24 magnuse aleisha++ 07:24 magnuse wahanui: forget HI there 07:24 wahanui magnuse, I didn't have anything matching hi there 07:25 magnuse wahanui: forget HI 07:25 wahanui magnuse: I forgot hi 07:34 fridolin Oh my ugly Bug 25842 07:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25842 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Typo "streetype" in member-main-address-style.inc 07:38 cait1 i think we didn't see it because road types 07:38 cait1 but didn't I qa that one? 07:38 cait1 oh there is another 08:07 * andreashm waves 08:12 magnuse \o/ 08:12 magnuse so will you be leaving us, andreashm? 08:12 andreashm yes, unfortunately. 08:13 andreashm but I'll still be lurking on various chats/platforms. keeping an eye on y'all! =) 08:15 magnuse goody! 08:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25842: Fix typo streetype in member-main-address-style.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ebfc94a5724a0dd63f565f9744800c98d70f9cf> 08:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25839: Fix typo patron.streetype in member-main-address-style.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0de7b6093e86410c022e252b554a5e6305c86480> 08:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25774: Handle utf8 chars in REST API queries <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1af5a62cb74aa7dd000ae41c4be07dd6d3aa330> 08:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25702: Actions button on Search results from Z39.50 is displayed incorrectly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84230fcd798805c38c9ff16312121011cd0dc782> 08:33 Joubu @later tell aleisha are you using the koha-push script for 19.11.x? 08:33 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25828: Update cpanfile for 20.05 release cycle <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac8249ac67dcac6fd55b0d2bcc13ccd495722ca5> 08:58 nlegrand Ahoj. 09:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #21: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/21/ 09:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1371: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1371/ 09:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #271: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/271/ 09:57 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:57 wahanui Congratulations! 09:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #11: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/11/ 09:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #824: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/824/ 10:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #6: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/6/ 10:37 magnuse woohoo! 10:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #19: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/19/ 10:50 tcohen morning 10:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #352: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/352/ 11:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #331: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/331/ 11:25 oleonard wahanui: forget HI there, 11:25 wahanui oleonard: I forgot hi there, 11:32 ashimema loosing andreashm ? 11:33 oleonard I wish we were like the Mob, and no one could ever leave 11:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 11:34 wahanui Congratulations! 11:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #16: FIXED in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/16/ 11:34 ashimema lol 11:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #16: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/16/ 11:50 tuxayo With this and the consideration of child labor for libre/open source projects, it seems oleonard is shifting to the dark side. 11:54 cait huh? 11:55 andreashm ashimema: I'm starting a new job at the national library of sweden after summer 11:55 andreashm no Koha there 11:55 oleonard cait: Yesterday I pondered whether it was ethical to employ child labor as long as it was for open source 11:55 cait hm 11:56 oleonard andreashm: You mean no Koha YET 11:56 andreashm hehe 11:56 cait education... like school, right? 11:56 cait andreashm: what did i miss? 11:57 andreashm cait: magnuse mentioned me leaving earlier 11:57 cait vacation? *hopeful+ 11:57 andreashm I'm going to work with national systems (LIBRIS etc.) 11:57 andreashm Leaving Stockholm univ 11:57 cait oh :( 11:58 cait or yay? 11:58 cait i guess 11:59 cait you know what we mean... sad to see you leave, but wishing you the best of course and hoping you will still be here from time to time 12:00 andreashm thanks cait 12:00 andreashm I'll be around. keeping an eye on things. 12:00 cait you better :) 12:00 cait do you knwo what your new tasks will be? 12:01 * oleonard tearfully removes andreashm from the irc regulars page 12:01 nlegrand andreashm: a librarian friend in Sweden told me they were checkouting bikes and that they described biked in MARC. But I didn't find the notice. How can I find a bike in LIBRIS? 12:02 andreashm nlegrand: I would asume that they add bikes to their local catalogue, not LIBRIS. =) 12:02 cait i got to switch back to the other computer- i want to know too :) 12:03 oleonard Bikes in Koha? Done that. https://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=288318 12:04 tuxayo andreashm: Using an ILS to manage bike rental? 12:05 andreashm tuxayo: ask nlegrand, I had never heard of it. =) 12:05 cait1 tuxayo: you'd be surprised waht libraries catalog 12:05 andreashm But know of several who use Koha to manage art 12:05 cait1 electric table fans ... kind of a protest to the new building lacking AC i guess 12:06 tuxayo andreashm: Indeed I got mixed up about who brought the topic. 12:06 cait1 keys 12:06 cait1 being in he library (in corona times) with tokens 12:06 oleonard https://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=388857 12:07 cait1 https://prag.bibliothek.goethe.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?advsearch=1&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&do=Suche&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3AGEGE&sort_by=relevance 12:07 andreashm cait1: I'll be working as a systems librarian with the national systems. don't have that many details yet. 12:10 tuxayo andreashm: Maybe you will manage cats. That's the logical step in the direction mentioned in the above other-than-book catalogs. 12:10 tuxayo Considering cat cafés exists, libraries could also do this. 12:10 tuxayo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_caf%C3%A9 12:12 tuxayo (only on-site of course) 12:12 * andreashm will change title to cat librarian 12:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #22: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/22/ 12:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #11: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/11/ 12:25 magnuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_cat 12:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #11: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/11/ 12:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #15: FAILURE in 5 min 29 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/15/ 12:32 magnuse oooh bug 20271 12:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables 12:33 ashimema cool catalogue oleonard.. never thought to search for bikes or thermometers :) 12:33 tuxayo magnuse: «Cats' generally independent nature may also suit the intellectual environment of a library, as they are low-maintenance» 12:33 tuxayo lol 12:34 ashimema sad to hear you're going andreashm, but sounds like a good move for you.. good luck, hope it all goes well 12:34 andreashm thanks ashimema! 12:34 * ashimema wonders what jobs might suit him out in a wider world.. been in Koha land for a long time. 12:35 tuxayo andreashm: give us some news. Like whether you manage cats or bikes. Very important. 12:35 tuxayo ashimema: do think about leaving yet! :o 12:36 tuxayo oleonard: I'm ready to join the mob ASAP. 12:36 andreashm tuxayo: forgot a 'not' there? =) 12:37 tuxayo indeed! 12:37 tuxayo *don't think about 12:37 tuxayo ashimema: BTW, any welsh translator at PTFS-E? 12:38 ashimema not at ptfs-e.. but we have a couple of welsh customers and one of them did the translations to date 12:39 oleonard ashimema, I'm working on getting a "library of things" page put together for my library but it's not there yet 12:39 ashimema cool 12:40 oleonard This is our latest addition: https://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?advsearch=1&idx=kw&idx=kw&idx=kw&do=Search&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3AYG&sort_by=relevance 12:40 ashimema Dual language support is a legal requirement for OPAC's in Wales tuxayo.. hence the OPAC is covered reasonably well.. and will likely improve again when they next upgrade 12:41 tuxayo ashimema: Good, I'll send an email to koha-translate about errors that I'm silencing (fuzzy). Is there anyone at PTFS-E or at the customer that I can CC? 12:41 ashimema oh cool.. 12:41 tuxayo In the hope of not having these errors to manually handle every month. 12:41 ashimema hmm.. 12:41 ashimema send the mail and I'll see if i can dig out someone here who might be able to reach out to the customer. 12:41 ashimema ooh.. 12:42 * magnuse searches for the fix_all_encoding_problems_in_this_file command 12:42 ashimema in terms of manually handling.. 12:42 ashimema if you mark them as fuzzy in translate.koha-community.org you'll no longer have to fix them manually each time 12:42 tuxayo ashimema: I can't I have to be admin. So I can only do that for Esperanto XD 12:43 tuxayo I emailed Bernardo to ask if there would be a way for RMaint to be able to do that. (or everyone, since everyone can submit translations...) 12:44 ashimema ah.. I asked him for admin permission when i became rmaint for just that reason I think 12:44 ashimema I'm sure he'll grant it to you :) 12:44 tuxayo good! 12:47 ashimema I did wonder if we could script marking errors as fuzzy as part of the translation build process 12:48 tuxayo I wonder why we have to mark them as fuzzy. It will end up in english anyway right? 12:48 ashimema pass.. I'm not close enough to how translations work to be honest 12:49 tuxayo At least locally. Because in the translation platform it allows to alert the translators tor fix them. 12:49 tuxayo *to fix 12:50 tuxayo RMaint is definitely a great job to find all kinds of things to fix and clarify in translations, system requirements, CI among others. 12:50 ashimema hehe 12:51 ashimema yup 12:51 ashimema that's what i did for 12 months as stable rmaint before becoming RM.. it was good and we made allot of improvements to our processes and things.. 12:51 ashimema really nice to see you striving to do more this cycle too :) 12:52 ashimema carrying on lots of things I started.. continuing things I just ran out of time to complete :) 12:52 ashimema and finding your own improvements too 12:52 ashimema tuxayo++ 12:53 tuxayo The release tools and git push hook are a great help. 12:53 tuxayo ashimema++ 12:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1372: FAILURE in 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1372/ 12:55 tuxayo The cause the team being wrong in my case was that I named my config file .yaml instead of .yml .... (miread the readme) 12:55 * ashimema is finding it weird being just QA Team now.. lots of catching up happening for ptfs-e work but it's strange doing less community stuff 12:55 tuxayo *misread 12:55 ashimema hehe.. 12:55 ashimema easily done 12:55 ashimema I should perhaps add a warning if etc/user.yml isn't found or something 12:55 ashimema that would be nice 12:57 magnuse tuxayo++ 12:58 tuxayo > I should perhaps add a warning if etc/user.yml isn't found or something 12:58 tuxayo There is, I just didn't understood it, because I though it was already there. 12:58 tuxayo Maybe it should be mandatory and block? To ensure to not fallback to an old team for example. 13:00 ashimema would be easy to block.. 13:00 ashimema just add a 'die' into the relevant code block 13:07 tuxayo ashimema: BTW, after checking the advertised experimental support for MySQL 8 in 19.05.x I got 16 test failures. 13:07 tuxayo Should I still keep it in the release notes? 13:07 ashimema well.. it is indeed experimental 13:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #272: FAILURE in 3 min 5 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/272/ 13:07 ashimema I'm not sure we intend to backport further mysql8 fixes? 13:08 ashimema so perhaps not worthwhile mentioning it in your ntoes 13:08 ashimema * so perhaps not worthwhile mentioning it in your notes 13:08 tuxayo MariaDB 10.3 had two errors that were fixed by a last backport after tcohen analyzed that it was low risk. 13:08 ashimema that's another area that's hard coded into the template 13:08 ashimema perhaps we should make it configurable 13:08 ashimema hmm 13:09 * ashimema is keener to support Maria than MySQL8 going forward personally 13:09 tuxayo +1 13:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #13: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/13/ 13:10 tuxayo > I'm not sure we intend to backport further mysql8 fixes? 13:10 tuxayo It's not like the patches are coming, they are here for other versions and haven't been backported likely. 13:10 tuxayo I don't see myself digging in the previous versions to find MySQL 8 patches and risk breaking something... 13:11 ashimema sounds fair to me 13:13 tuxayo That would be surprising to find someone upgrading to 19.05.x and upgrade to MySQL 8. They would be better upgrading to a latter version that have better support. 13:13 tuxayo Thanks for the advice. 13:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #22: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/22/ 13:18 caroline Interesting idea, maybe for wahanui? https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-problem-with-hey-guys "A group of government employees wrote a custom response for the messaging app Slack that would have a bot ask questions like 'Did you mean friends?' or 'Did you mean you all?' whenever a user wrote 'Hey guys'" 13:19 caroline Let's make wahanui a texan y'all! 13:19 tuxayo caroline: That seems the kind of thing very easy to teach wahanui 13:20 caroline (as a french-speaker who briefly lived in Texas, y'all is a very natural word for plural you which we have in French) 13:21 tuxayo Also "Hey cats". It depend about who controls caroline 's computer. 13:21 caroline [off] funny anecdote, while living in Texas, I accidentally started dating a guy who asked "Do you want to hang out" and I though he was asking me and my friend... -_- 13:22 caroline +1 for Hey cats! 13:22 oleonard I am trying to use "y'all" as much as I can these days, and to normalize non-Texans using it 13:23 tuxayo caroline: Does the previously mentionned idea of managing cats in Koha interest you? :P 13:23 tuxayo As cat cafés exists, libraries could do the same. 13:24 * oleonard wonders how many pages long his cats are 13:24 caroline lol! They would have to be users/employees :) 13:24 oleonard Is my cat realia? 13:24 tuxayo realia? 13:24 caroline cats are non-human people, not things 13:25 caroline real-life object 13:26 tuxayo caroline: who said Koha can't manage people? :P 13:26 caroline We'd have to add MARC code for "person" 13:26 caroline Is the name of the person the author or the title? 13:26 tuxayo hmmmm 13:27 caroline The person is the author of their own life? 13:27 tuxayo Is there a mark code bicycle or thermometer? 13:27 tuxayo cc oleonard 13:27 tuxayo *marc 13:27 caroline realia :) 13:27 caroline or 3D object 13:29 oleonard My cats are definitely 3-D 13:42 magnuse "utf8 "\xEF" does not map to Unicode", i'm told. is there a way to replace/remove that "\xEF" from the string with a regex or something? 13:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #273: STILL FAILING in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/273/ 13:44 magnuse koha was used to manage people at kohacon10, if i am not mistaken 13:45 tcohen magnuse there is 13:46 tcohen maybe s/[^[:print:]]/ /g 13:48 magnuse tcohen: sorry, no, same problem 13:48 tcohen ah, no 13:48 tcohen mine was about non-printable chars 13:48 tcohen this is a wrong byte combination in unicode 13:49 magnuse yeah, trying to munge som data from aleph 13:54 magnuse from what i have been able to google up, i thought s/[\xEF]// would work, but it doesn't, and neither does s/\xEF// 13:56 * magnuse gotta wander 14:00 tuxayo magnuse: «koha was used to manage people at kohacon10, if i am not mistaken» 14:00 tuxayo yay, what Koha has not managed will be the question. ^^ 14:01 tuxayo tcohen: hi o/ Thanks for the advice for fixing MariaDB 10.3 on 19.05.x, it works it was integrated :) 14:01 tuxayo (the git history was already going to be messy and release late so integrating it wasn't a big deal actually.) 14:01 tuxayo tcohen++ 14:07 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:07 wahanui Congratulations! 14:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1373: FIXED in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1373/ 14:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #17: UNSTABLE in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/17/ 14:13 ashimema bug 8338 back to you cait 14:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8338 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Fines not cleared with dropbox mode 14:14 tcohen nice to hear that, tuxayo 14:31 caroline hum... I noticed the sample sql files are now yaml 14:32 caroline is there a script to convert them to sql statements? 14:32 oleonard Things move fast around here :D 14:42 Joubu bug 24912 14:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24912 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Generate sql from yaml installer files 14:42 caroline I found misc/load_yaml.pl 14:42 Joubu it won't convert them to .sql 14:43 caroline I'm trying it now, I'm guessing it does what I want, e.g. load fake patrons, etc 14:43 Joubu but yes, they will be loaded 14:43 Joubu yes, load_yaml.pl is what you want then 14:43 Joubu with -f 14:43 caroline ok thanks! :) 14:49 caroline will we have to do the same with language-specific sqls or is this to pave the way to translatable data sets? 14:55 Joubu tallestjoy: Hi Joy, could you modify the symlink on download.k-c.org? 14:55 Joubu koha-19.11-latest-tar.gz 14:55 Joubu should point to 19.11.07 (and change the owner, must be aleisha now) 14:55 tallestjoy i will take a look. 14:55 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:55 wahanui Congratulations! 14:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #16: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/16/ 14:56 Joubu tallestjoy: you won't be allowed to modify the owner actually 14:58 Joubu @later tell rangi can you adjust the permission for the *-latest symlinks on download.k-c.org:/home/uploads/files? Like koha-latest.tar.gz must be owned by Lucas, koha-19.11-latest-tar.gz by aleisha, etc. 14:58 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:03 Joubu @later tell rangi hum apparently we don't need it 15:03 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:04 Joubu @later tell aleisha it seems that there is no a missing tar.gz file on download.k-c.org - /home/uploads/files/koha-19.11.07.tar.gz 15:04 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #274: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 8 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/274/ 15:30 tallestjoy hi joubu yup it looks like martin beat me to changing the koha-19.11-latest symlink 15:33 Joubu heh yes, I did not notice he was able to do it. Sorry for the noise then :) 15:42 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:42 wahanui Congratulations! 15:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #18: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/18/ 15:58 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:58 wahanui Congratulations! 15:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #275: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/275/ 16:00 cait1 tuxayo: haven't read back all the way, but if you have errors and don't fuzzy them, they can break the whole process 16:01 cait1 like... only half your files get copied into the translated directoreis or such things 16:01 tuxayo cait1: that's the kind of info that needed. 16:01 cait1 only when you fuzzy them, they don't get parsed, don't make trouble and stay English 16:01 tuxayo thanks, I fuzzied without really knowing why ^^" 16:01 cait1 or the pages break horribly because soem variable is missing... (some of the stuff that gets mistranslated is actually program code sneaking into translations) 16:02 tuxayo > like... only half your files get copied into the translated directoreis or such things 16:02 tuxayo 😱😱😱 16:02 cait1 usually the very first thing we do for tstig oddities is switch to english and see if it happens there too 16:02 cait1 testing... 16:02 wahanui i guess testing is important :) 16:02 cait1 good wahanui, botsnack cookie 16:02 cait1 wahanui botsnack cookie 16:02 wahanui :) 16:03 cait1 gotta read a long spec, bbl :) 16:05 * tuxayo completes the RMaint wiki page to make the part about checking translations more scary. 16:16 tuxayo ashimema: I think I mostly sorted out the release :) 16:16 tuxayo Have some time to check it out? (or anyone else) 16:16 tuxayo https://gitlab.com/tuxayo/Koha/-/commits/19.05.x-draft 16:17 tuxayo Next steps tagging, publishing the source code and announcements. 18:14 caroline @later tell rangi can you help me with https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/merge_requests/353 I tried to follow the instructions, but I can't merge it 18:14 huginn caroline: The operation succeeded. 18:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #250: UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/250/ 18:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #246: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/246/ 18:23 ashimema Looks perfect to me tuxayo 18:23 ashimema Great work, well done 18:24 tuxayo ashimema: thanks :) (release file pushed! :) ) 18:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #244: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/244/ 18:24 tuxayo >_< 18:31 tuxayo Joubu: tallestjoy 18:31 tuxayo Maybe the fix of the 19.11.07 symlink when wrong. 18:31 tuxayo http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2020-06-23#i_2262896 18:31 tuxayo When uploading my release in noticed that the link was there but not the target 18:31 * tallestjoy shrugs 18:32 tallestjoy it looks like martin touched it after me, so he may have more up to date information 18:33 tuxayo cc ashimema 18:33 tuxayo yes was confused about who actually did the operation. 18:33 tuxayo Indeed the unix user is martin 18:35 tuxayo I should have better read the discussion, all the info was already there ^^" 18:35 tallestjoy :) 18:36 tallestjoy happy to help, but i don't have high level of permissions on download server. 18:42 tuxayo tallestjoy: we have the same and it's enough to interact with all the files and symlinks in the download server. 18:42 tuxayo I had not with the files of my predecessor. 18:44 ashimema Yeah, we need Aleisha to upload the target again 18:44 ashimema One of us.. might have been me whilst trying to fix something else.. got the symlink syntax backwards 18:45 ashimema Which resulted in the file below overwritten 18:45 ashimema By an empty symlink 18:47 tuxayo ashimema: 18:47 tuxayo > got the symlink syntax backwards 18:47 tuxayo That happened to me several times also ^^" 18:47 ashimema Indeed. 18:47 ashimema It's easily done 18:47 ashimema I'm happy to take the blame 😋 18:48 ashimema Something was wonky when I got asked to fix them... But I may have made that particular one worse 18:48 ashimema It happens . Easily fixed once aliesha is awake 19:15 tuxayo After the release I have a revenge to take against Circulation.t For some reasons is almost never passes on the CI and don't passe any more locally. 19:19 oleonard Oh, is Bug 25858 why I have staff who lost permission to do some things after we uprgraded? 19:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25858 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Borrower permissions are broken by update from bug 22868 19:23 tuxayo @later tell Joubu The 20.05.01 release notes on the website still mention «Debian Jessie with MySQL 5.5» and «announce the release of 19.11.07.» 19:23 huginn tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 19:30 oleonard tcohen around? 19:30 tcohen yes 19:30 oleonard What is the status of your work integrating DataTables and the API? I've lost track 19:30 tcohen on 20.05, the cities table is using the API 19:31 tcohen and it is a shame, but bug 25288 hasn't been pushed yet 19:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Make the libraries list use the API 19:31 tcohen it basically adds the columns settings superpowers to the DT-API wrapper 19:31 tcohen (its dependency, not itself) 19:31 tcohen so, it is done 19:31 tcohen :-D 19:32 oleonard Excellent 19:32 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 19:32 tcohen two things to note: 19:33 tcohen - Joubu considers the way we escape things in JS 'ugly'. This is worth taking a look for options, specially people involved in UI and familiar with the tools around 19:34 tcohen (I don't really mind, I think it is fairly similar to what we end-up doing on TT, but I will support anyone improving it) 19:34 tcohen - The coolest thing we did for this is embedding things 19:35 tcohen so you requet an item with the full itemtype, and the holdingbranch as a library object, etc 19:35 tcohen but it requires 'touching' the API spec, and so it must be discussed but is so f*ing easy to do 19:35 tcohen :-D 19:36 oleonard ðŸ‘ï¸ 19:36 tcohen neither the cities table or the libraries table embed things 19:36 tcohen bummer 19:36 tcohen Look at bug 20212 for a complete example 19:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Slowness in Receiving in Acquisitions 19:37 tcohen ^^ that one is fully funcitonal, it is just the query to mimmick the behaviour is rather complex and I got good sample data recently to move it forward 19:38 oleonard So if I'm looking for an example for how to work on something new I should look at 20212? 19:39 tcohen if the table you're building will need to show info from different tables, then yes 19:39 tcohen e.g. the patrons search table 19:40 tcohen e.g. async display of items on a biblio ;-) 19:49 * oleonard will study it. 19:49 oleonard Thanks tcohen! 19:59 tuxayo Question about the release. What does this means? 19:59 tuxayo «then add a More entry (that will split the announcement so it looks fine in the front page). » 19:59 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance#Public_announcement 19:59 tuxayo I don't find it 20:01 tuxayo found! 20:07 tuxayo The website part of the release seems okay ;D 20:07 tuxayo https://koha-community.org/news/ 20:16 magnuse rangi can probably fill us in on the "managing people with koha at kohacon10" thing... 20:19 tuxayo he he 20:20 tuxayo Release of 19.05.12 done!!!! 20:20 tuxayo confetti! 20:20 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 20:20 caroline tuxayo++ 20:21 tcohen tuxayo++ 20:22 tuxayo Thanks to everyone who helped me here during the last two days 💚💚💚 20:23 rangi magnuse: we are doing it again for kohacon20 20:24 rangi taking all the registrations, making them borrowers, issuing workshops to them etc :) 20:24 rangi issue each day for those in person 20:24 caroline so they are borrowers! 20:24 rangi so we know how is in the building, important for contact tracing in this world we are in now too 20:25 rangi yeah 20:25 rangi or you could od it 20:25 rangi they are items 20:25 rangi and the borrower is the conference 20:25 rangi it works either way 20:25 caroline I was having philosophical questionning about people being catalogued 20:26 rangi maybe we will do it that way, we will catalogue each borrower, and issue them ou to the confernce :) 20:26 rangi caroline: we do that for authors already, we just call them authority records :) 20:27 caroline yup 20:27 rangi some libraries did a thing where you could "borrow" a person 20:27 caroline Yeah I saw that, I don't think they bothered to catalog them 20:27 rangi yeah 20:27 caroline especially if it's once or twice a year 20:27 caroline not worth the hassle 20:28 rangi i think we might catalogue them, and then have a scannable barcode on the nametag and they can selfcheck in and out :-) 20:28 rangi we have to track people for covid-19 anyway 20:29 rangi the idea about borrowers tho 20:29 rangi is they can reserve the workshops 20:29 rangi so it has advantages that way 20:29 rangi (you can tell i still havent decided) 20:29 magnuse rangi++ 20:29 magnuse tuxayo++ 20:31 rangi caroline: ill look at that merge request now 20:33 rangi there we go, merged in 20:44 wizzyrea has anyone ever seen this zebra failure 20:44 wizzyrea zebraidx: insert.c:201: clean_page: Assertion `*indxp1 < 0' failed. 20:45 rangi nope, but eeew 20:45 wizzyrea it dies at 72% on a recordset of 480k 20:45 wizzyrea and takes HOURS and i want to die. 20:45 rangi its not RAM ? 20:46 wizzyrea hrm 20:46 wizzyrea well it didn't oom properly no 20:46 wizzyrea related to the RAM setting in the config tho? the 50M one? 20:47 rangi oh that could be it, you'd hope for a better error but maybe 20:47 wizzyrea it doesn't in fact have a lot of headspace. 20:47 caroline rangi, you make it sound so easy... I spent like 2 hours trying to merge it 20:47 wizzyrea caroline: experience and repetition :D 20:47 rangi heh, ive been using git for 11ish years now :) 20:48 wizzyrea plus he's just rly good at that. 20:48 caroline I'm sure you just look at the commit sternly and it gets in line 20:51 wizzyrea that's pretty much how I observed it to happen. 20:53 rangi caroline: http://git.koha-community.org/stats/kohadocs/authors.html only 16 to go and you pass me! 20:54 caroline haha! 20:54 caroline I will do my best! 20:55 rangi i updated teh tags too so we can see changes between major releases 20:55 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/stats/kohadocs/tags.html 20:57 ashimema Cool 20:59 aleisha hi 20:59 wahanui salut, aleisha 21:00 wizzyrea hi aleisha 21:01 rangi did someone delete teh 19.11.07.tar.gz file? 21:02 ashimema Aha 21:02 ashimema Yes, there was an me confusion earlier 21:02 rangi ahh right 21:03 ashimema I'm not sure if it was me or not.. I was on there trying to sort out the symlinks at Joubu's request. 21:04 ashimema It looked like someone had got the symlink command reversed.. 21:04 ashimema Anywho.. the short of it is.. any chance you still have a copy of the tar and could reupload it aliesha 21:04 ashimema Apologies if it was me 21:06 rangi yeah aleisha hadnt updated teh symlink, so i think the symlink syntax backwards will have messed it up, probably will need to reroll it, but that is doable 21:09 ashimema Thanks 21:10 aleisha should be all fixed up now 21:11 aleisha my bad for missing the symlink instruction - maybe next time just let me know i've missed it and i'll fix it when i next get here :) 21:13 cait aleisha++ :) 21:14 cait I actually waited all day to do that tonight to honor your first release 21:14 kathryn cait that is so nice, and hello! 21:14 wizzyrea aleisha++ 21:14 kathryn hi wizzyrea :) 21:14 kathryn and hi all, I continue to lurk! 21:14 wizzyrea hi kathryn :D 21:15 aleisha aw thank you cait ! :D hi wizzyrea 21:15 cait :) 21:23 caroline rangi, can I also ask for https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/merge_requests/356 ? 21:24 rangi yep 21:24 rangi ill look now 21:43 rangi caroline: the issue here is the images.rst file 21:43 rangi it adds an image1406 21:44 rangi but we are already up to 1461 21:44 rangi so ill fix, and find the refernce to 1406 and fix that too 21:46 rangi ok, hows that? 22:30 cait good night all :) 22:32 aleisha night cait !