Time  Nick         Message
01:31 mtj          hi #koha
01:32 mtj          tcohen: i do have a working(ish) koha-nighly repo...
01:33 mtj          http://apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-nightly
01:34 mtj          the packages are being copied to http://apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-nightly/deb
01:35 mtj          latest packages are in http://apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-nightly/deb/unstable
01:37 mtj          packages are currently unsigned, so...
01:37 mtj          echo 'deb [trusted=yes] http://apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-nightly dev main' >  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
01:39 mtj          perhaps i could start rsyncing the repo to http://debian.koha-community.org/koha-nightly
01:43 mtj          i like the aptly idea too :)
05:55 dcook        Hola #koha
06:28 dcook        Bug 25068
06:28 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25068 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , koha-common build error caused by missing /etc/searchengine
06:29 dcook        ashimema: I know dashboard.koha-community.org says that master is building, but I reckon the Debian package build for master is broken without the patch for tha tbug
06:34 reiveune     hello
06:50 magnuse      \o/
06:59 dcook        yo magnuse
06:59 * dcook      is just opening and patching all the debian packaging bugs today lol
06:59 magnuse      dcook++
07:00 dcook        Don't think I've managed to do much else today but that O_O
07:00 dcook        Actually, I had a server nearly get taken down by a SIP server that was swapping like crazy even though there was free RAM available...
07:00 dcook        That was... bizarre
07:01 dcook        I don't even know what to say in a bug report for that one..
07:05 magnuse      just "That was... bizarre" should do
07:07 dcook        I suppose but I don't have any way to reproduce it :/
07:39 paul_p       hello #koha, good morning
07:40 paul_p       quick question: where are the ILL backends stored in the source code tree ?
07:48 dcook        Oooh I'm curious about that too
07:48 dcook        bonjour paul_p
07:48 cait1        I think you usually symlink them
07:48 cait1        did you see the installation notes on the wiki?
07:48 cait1        (they are separate git repositories usually)
07:48 * dcook      hasn't seen the installation notes on the wiki
07:49 cait1        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_backends
07:49 dcook        Ahhh interesting
07:49 magnuse      On Debian: /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Illbackends/
07:49 cait1        yep
07:49 dcook        In a few months, if we get funding, we might be adding a ILL backend for some OCLC ILL systems
07:50 magnuse      any folders below that are seen as separate backends
07:50 magnuse      there has been talk about turning backends into plugins, but not much work on it, i think
07:50 dcook        That seems a bit automagical :/
07:50 magnuse      yup
07:51 dcook        Although I bet you could just add a different dir to @INC and get the same effect..
07:51 magnuse      bug 19605
07:51 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19605 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ILL backends should be pluggable through regular Koha plugins
07:51 dcook        Thanks cait1 and magnuse :). I've been meaning to ask about that.
07:51 dcook        Hope that answers paul_p's questions too
07:53 paul_p       dcook, very interesting comment regarding OCLC, because I've a potential customer who is asking me. we may compete on "who do it" ;)
07:53 dcook        Hehe true
07:53 dcook        Now that you mention it, it's probably the same potential customer
07:54 dcook        Whoever does it, it'll be a win for Koha
07:55 paul_p       dcook, it's a european one ?
07:55 dcook        We actually run an Australian ILL network ourselves, so I'm tempted to do an ILL backend for that as well, which could be great for Koha in Australia...
07:55 paul_p       from netherlands ?
07:55 dcook        Oh, nope. Elsewhere I believe.
07:55 dcook        What a coincidence!
07:55 paul_p       OCLC has many customers, so not a so big coincidence
07:56 dcook        True perhaps just a coincidence in terms of timing
07:56 dcook        If I recall correctly, I think my boss said we'd be happy to collaborate or maybe even subcontract that work
07:56 paul_p       dcook, have you evaluated how complex it would be to develop this backend ? (how many hours/days of development)
07:56 dcook        yes, although I can't remember off the top of my head
07:57 dcook        I estimated pretty high though because I didn't have enough information about OCLC's side
07:57 magnuse      ah, there is actually a config for where backends are stored: <backend_directory>__PERL_MODULE_DIR__/Koha/Illbackends</backend_directory> in etc/koha-conf.xml
07:57 dcook        OCLC's documentation was really inconsistent
07:57 dcook        (nice magnuse :D)
07:57 dcook        Like there were the 2 ISO standards, but it seems like most ILSes integrate with OCLC using the 2nd one
07:58 dcook        And without seeing the standard and knowing which exact ILL services were targeted... I had to estimate quite vaguely
07:58 ashimema     tcohen does ILL as plugins already
07:58 dcook        Makes sense
07:58 ashimema     I've been pushing for it here but AndrewIsh seems dead set against it for some reason and I've not had a moment to dig into it myself yet
07:58 dcook        I think I'd do more plugins if we improved the security for it more
07:58 dcook        And managing plugins at a per-instance level would be a bit of a maintenance headache..
07:59 ashimema     yup
07:59 ashimema     I've beent rying dcook
07:59 dcook        <3
07:59 dcook        I keep meaning to look at my security signature stuff again in light of importing plugins from Github
07:59 ashimema     if people didn't wait until the end of the cycle to help out and do loads of enhancements then it may have made it this cycle ;)
07:59 dcook        Since I wrote that signature code, I haven't really been coding much at all in my free time
07:59 dcook        Hehe
07:59 dcook        The pandemic is what helped me do some work outside of work hours
08:00 ashimema     that's my biggest beaf with being RM actually... the first three months of a cylce are generally pretty dead.. right when you want to be doing all the experimental and bigger changes..
08:00 dcook        :(
08:00 dcook        That's unfortunate
08:00 ashimema     come the last 4 weeks everyone is throwing everything at you as much as the possibly can
08:00 dcook        It's coincidence in my case heh
08:00 ashimema     mmm
08:00 dcook        Is this your last term or do you have another after this?
08:01 ashimema     well.. I intend to pick it back up in earnest in a couple of weeks (this week is release week, next week is school hols)
08:01 ashimema     I'm out.. Joubu takes over
08:01 dcook        Ah, I just found the roles for 20.11
08:01 dcook        Has Joubu been RM before? I can't remember now...
08:01 dcook        Good luck with the school holidays
08:01 ashimema     I'd have loved to have done another cycle but alas the powers that be couldn't justify donating my time for another 6 months
08:01 ashimema     he has
08:01 dcook        Mmm fair enough
08:02 ashimema     a few times I think
08:02 dcook        I'd love to try being RM one day, but yeah there's no way I would be able to donate the time
08:02 ashimema     I've actually been digging pretty hard into plugins around the metadata separation stuff
08:02 dcook        We are doing a shift over here though, which is exciting. Moving away from OpenSuse and towards Ubuntu for Koha.
08:02 dcook        Hence why I worked non-stop on Debian packaging today heh
08:02 dcook        Yeah, I saw a lot of that.
08:03 dcook        I meant to look more into that one, but I'm more interested in security than performance at the moment for plugins
08:03 ashimema     have a branch where I do some fairly radical changes to our structure that improve both security and performance by making installation and execution much more distinct
08:03 dcook        :o
08:03 dcook        That would be great
08:03 ashimema     yeah.. my work was security motivated
08:03 ashimema     performance is a happy coincidence
08:04 dcook        Actually yeah I guess the metadata separation would be security motivated too..
08:04 dcook        In my case, I'm trying to be as restrictive as possible
08:04 dcook        ie allow only X plugins by Y authors
08:04 ashimema     indeed
08:04 dcook        I've reviewed a fair bit of plugin code and I almost always reject it when librarians suggest it
08:05 dcook        I like the idea of adding cool new functionality quickly but security is really important too
08:05 ashimema     there's various area's I feel we can improve there
08:05 ashimema     but I do feel plugins are very much worthwhile and will really help Koha continue to compete..
08:05 dcook        That's true
08:06 ashimema     without them the likes of Folio have a big selling point which we can't answer
08:06 dcook        I mean I think it's the way forward with my Bug 10662 work too
08:06 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
08:06 dcook        Like I put so much effort into that, and while I could still keep working to get it into the mainstream... it's still pretty experimental overall
08:06 ashimema     we have of course had them for a while now.. but we need to make them much more up front and centre to our community mission I feel..
08:06 dcook        I like the idea of people using a plugin for it for a while before trying to mainstream it
08:07 dcook        What is the big selling point for Folio that we can't answer?
08:07 dcook        The proposed modularity?
08:07 ashimema     I like the idea of some plugins ending up as adopted by the community.. they can continue to be plugins or they can migrate to core.
08:07 ashimema     indeed
08:07 ashimema     the whole 'App Store' philosophy
08:07 ashimema     they're really pushing that hard here..
08:07 dcook        I'm intrigued but skeptical
08:07 ashimema     even though in reality to me it doesn't feel like they actually offer it in reality
08:07 dcook        Last time I used Folio, it didn't have a front end
08:08 ashimema     There's allot more to Folio now
08:08 dcook        I think I was told that EDS would be the only supported front end
08:08 ashimema     still not as much as Koha
08:08 dcook        Lots of errors in the backend too..
08:08 dcook        I mean it seems like they have the resources and buy in to keep it moving
08:08 * ashimema   should add there that my words are my own.. not those of ptfs-e ;)
08:08 dcook        heh
08:09 ashimema     brb.. need to reboot
08:09 dcook        I'm intrigued by Folio, but just haven't seen enough yet
08:09 dcook        sounds good
08:11 ashimema     We could learn a few things from it
08:13 dcook        No argument here
08:13 dcook        I suppose the tough thing is that we
08:13 dcook        're all supporting customers as our main activities
08:14 ashimema     indeed
08:14 dcook        If we did build up the API more, it would be easier to gain that modularity..
08:15 dcook        I'd love to see a day where the OPAC is first and foremost a reference implementation of a Koha front end
08:15 Null404      Hello there
08:15 wahanui      Greetings, programs!
08:15 dcook        I suppose libraries integrating their own websites into Koha's APIs would have its downsides too though in terms of nimbleness...
08:16 ashimema     mm
08:16 Null404      after update to KOHA 18.11 Holds queue don't update new reservations
08:17 Null404      and visits raport count double
08:17 Joubu        dcook: can you sign bug 25510 off?
08:17 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25510 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Typo in koha-common.postinst causing shell errors
08:18 dcook        Joubu: I was going to, but your patch had some errors in it
08:18 dcook        I've attached a follow-up
08:19 dcook        Although fixing it creates another problem with Bug 25068
08:19 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25068 critical, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , koha-common build error caused by missing /etc/searchengine
08:19 dcook        Oops
08:19 dcook        Bug 25524
08:19 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25524 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Debian packages always append to /etc/koha/sites/$site/log4perl.conf
08:19 Joubu        so now it works, with the space
08:19 Joubu        you can SO
08:20 dcook        Just your patch or both?
08:20 ashimema     I need to get myself aquainted with the state of D10 packaging.. must admit I've lost touch with it the past couple of weeks :(
08:20 Joubu        both
08:20 dcook        Null404: Alas, I'm about to leave for dinner in a minute, so I can't help you out there
08:20 dcook        Joubu: Cool. I can do that.
08:20 Joubu        thx
08:20 dcook        thank you too!
08:20 * dcook      has spent all day working on packaging issues so glad for anyone else working on the same ones too
08:21 Null404      dcook: okay
08:22 Joubu        we need them fixed for 20.05
08:22 dcook        Joubu: If you could sign off Bug 25524, that would be great
08:22 dcook        Well test/sign off
08:22 dcook        Actually bug 25068 as you can't build any master packages without that one..
08:23 dcook        Hoping Kyle will sign off Bug 25485
08:23 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25485 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , TinyMCE broken in Debian package installs
08:23 dcook        Joubu: Let me know if you need anything else?
08:23 dcook        Going to log off now otherwise
08:23 * dcook      looks lookingly towards the kitchen
08:24 ashimema     night dcook
08:24 ashimema     nice to see you
08:24 dcook        Leftover Korean BBQ turned fried rice..
08:24 dcook        night ashimema
08:24 dcook        Nice seeing you too
08:24 ashimema     yum
08:24 dcook        I'm a lucky guy heh
08:24 Joubu        dcook: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=105004
08:24 Joubu        why should not we push this one?
08:25 dcook        Oh no idea really
08:26 dcook        There was a comment that said "Do not manually edit "control" or your changes will be clobbered when you", so I figured I'd listen to that
08:26 dcook        But I don't see when anyone does run "update-control" aside maybe from Mirko when doing official packages?
08:27 dcook        I figured maybe Mirko had some process for updating debian/control, so I just didn't want to step on any toes and screw up the release ina ny way
08:27 dcook        Just my ignorance in the official release process
08:27 Joubu        ho right, it's auto-generated
08:29 ashimema     Mirko is out
08:29 ashimema     Mason is in..
08:29 dcook        Mmm explains a bit
08:29 ashimema     just to note.. we've not heard from Mirko at all this entire cycle
08:30 dcook        :o
08:30 dcook        Yikes..
08:30 dcook        Hope there's nothing wrong on his end
08:30 ashimema     I should remove him from the team really
08:30 ashimema     mm
08:30 ashimema     not sure.. hope he's OK.
08:30 ashimema     none of us has managed to reach him.. email, text etc all tried
08:31 dcook        Hmm no activity on Github since May 2018
08:31 dcook        Actually maybe older
08:32 ashimema     yeah
08:32 ashimema     He was around early in the 19.05 cycle.. but not allot
08:33 dcook        Hmm crazy..
08:33 dcook        Mason should update the debian/control with his name and email too I suppose
08:34 dcook        Since we've started moving to Ubuntu for our Koha servers, I'm doing a lot more on the Debian packaging front these days. Still have packaging libcache-memcached-fast-safe-perl for Debian proper on my TODO list...
08:36 dcook        Ok actually going to go now heh
08:36 dcook        Good night / morning everyone
08:36 ashimema     thanks
08:36 Null404      "Holds queue" don't work  but "Hold ratios to calculate items needed " works (I think)
08:36 Null404      strange
08:36 ashimema     @later tell mtj dcook recommends you update the debian/control to your name rather than Mirko
08:36 huginn       ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:38 Joubu        Null404: on Friday you had a very weird setup, with line numbers in the error logs that did not match the codebase. Did you do something to fix that?
08:39 Joubu        if not, no need to continue. You need to fix that first.
08:39 Null404      I know that I have errors after update
08:39 Null404      and I don't know how to fix that :/
08:41 Null404      and I don't know why OPAC is in correct language, staff site is half english, half polish
08:42 Joubu        Because Polish strings are not fully translated: https://translate.koha-community.org/pl/19.11/
08:42 ashimema     did I misread.. are you upgrading to 18.11 or 19.11 ?
08:43 Null404      but in 17.11 text like "avaible", "year", "not for loan" was translated, in 18.11 not
08:44 Null404      "waiting since", "home branch" also was translated
08:48 Joubu        You are asking different things. For the translation question you should ask this mailing list: koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org
08:48 Joubu        and get involved in the translation process I suppose
08:48 ashimema     cait around?
08:48 ashimema     or is it cait1
08:49 ashimema     I'd love to get some feedback on bug 24973 from someone wanting to actually use the localization side of things.. as you raised the issue it would be awesome if you could take a look :)
08:49 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Allow to localize and translate system preferences with new yaml based installer
08:49 ashimema     this one, in my feeling could still make it if it all makes sense
08:49 cait1        it's me, whoever
08:50 cait1        waht's the problem?
08:50 ashimema     I 'think' the code looks reasonable
08:50 Joubu        Null404: Janusz is the one who is actively translating the Polish strings. Do you know him?
08:50 ashimema     Bernardo has diligently split localization from translation for us now in a new proof concept patch
08:50 ashimema     looks like a viable approach to me.. but needs a test
08:50 Null404      Joubu: no
08:51 Joubu        I flag it for 20.11, are you asking because you want it for 20.05?
08:51 Joubu        Null404: https://translate.koha-community.org/user/Janusz/ you should try and contact him
08:51 mtj          ashimema, dcook- thanks for the heads up ^ :)
08:52 ashimema     I'm not desperately attached to it for 20.05.. but if it's simple enough to include I'd be happy to Joubu..
08:52 ashimema     it feels very close to being a bug vs enhancement to me.. so even if we don't get it for 20.05.00 I'd encourage the rmaints to pick it up for .01 I reckon
08:52 ashimema     what's your feeling there
08:53 ashimema     wait for 20.11?
08:53 ashimema     how are you mtj?
08:53 ashimema     seen all the flurry of packaging work.. the last week or two?
08:53 wahanui      I haven't seen 'all', ashimema
08:54 ashimema     I'm in need of an update on the current state of affairs packaging wise for release
08:55 Joubu        ashimema: I think it's too late for 20.05
08:55 Joubu        and we only have es-ES that have been replaced
08:55 ashimema     okies.. I'll happily bow to that
08:55 ashimema     true
08:55 Joubu        we should focus on the removal of other xx-YY for 20.11, then help that with 24973
08:55 ashimema     hope momentum carries in 20.11 cycle for it :)
08:55 ashimema     brill
08:55 ashimema     one think off my pile for now then :)
08:56 Joubu          2
08:56 Joubu        2 blockers, 5 criticals, release in 5 days
08:56 Joubu        I think we have enough :D
08:56 ashimema     indeed
08:56 ashimema     okies
09:16 magnuse      is the things that need to be done to the languages described anywhere?
09:16 magnuse      bug 24973
09:16 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Allow to localize and translate system preferences with new yaml based installer
09:22 Joubu        magnuse: why do you need installer/data/mysql/nb-NO?
09:27 mtj          hi ashimema, im doing great thanks
09:27 ashimema     magnuse, it's simply to migrate your translations into the po's on pootle assuming you don't have any localizations built into your translated .sql pref files
09:27 ashimema     i.e. you don't change any pref defautls
09:30 mtj          ashimema: ill be working on packaging stuff for the next few days... so far - so good
09:30 ashimema     :)
09:30 ashimema     have you seen tcohens email?
09:30 mtj          yes, but havent replied just yet
09:31 ashimema     brill
09:32 mtj          i have the nightly builds working again
09:34 mtj          i need to take another look at the mojo packagaes again
09:35 mtj          i think the catch was... if we fixed them for buster, we broke them for jessie
09:35 mtj          ..now with jessie being dropped - we should be ok
09:36 * mtj        needs to confirm that theory ^ :)
09:36 cait1        mtj i noticed you changed a really old taiga project :)
09:36 ashimema     :)
09:36 ashimema     that was my understanding too
09:36 cait1        (18.05)
09:37 mtj          hi cait1, aah yes - i was playing with taiga
09:37 mtj          i was thinking of using it to track a koha-packing project, for myself
09:38 * mtj        back in 20 - i have some baking stuff to sort out!
09:40 cait1        mtj++ btw - thx for being packaging manager again
09:45 Joubu        ashimema: do you have a script to remove the 20.05 candidate tag for already pushed bug reports?
09:45 ashimema     nope..
09:45 ashimema     I manually do it
09:48 Joubu        I've added several bugs that must be part of 20.05, it would be good to have the list "clean" to highlight where people should focus on
09:48 ashimema     going through the list now
09:50 Joubu        ashimema: also maybe enh should be unflagged
09:50 ashimema     agreed
09:50 ashimema     also doing that now
09:54 ashimema     there's lots here I wish had made it through QA..  :(
09:55 ashimema     oh well.. next cycle
10:06 ashimema     that's better
10:06 ashimema     I'd still love to see 25245 in to be honest.. it's completely self contained and I really can't understand why it got blocked
10:11 cait1        bug 25245
10:11 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25245 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a plugin hook to allow running code on a nightly basis
10:11 cait1        hm i would lvoe to have that too
10:11 cait1        simple solution, the nightly one
10:14 Joubu        there is an open question
10:15 cait1        which comment?
10:15 cait1        ah
10:16 cait1        i don't understnad the argument to be honest
10:16 cait1        if you want ot change it... you can change it either or
10:16 Null404      i'm looking error logs but there is only one type of error " Unknown column 'notloan' in 'field list' ", there wasn't anny errors about reservations
10:19 cait1        hm commented
10:19 cait1        ashimema: maybe you can have a look too, it's dcook's last comment we were talking about
10:20 ashimema     will take another look in a minute
10:26 cait1        lunch :)
10:27 oleonard     Slow down I haven't even had breakfast
10:28 Null404      is that normal that set book from quarantine status to avaiable to borrow status add one more visit to library on that that book was set to quarantine ?
10:29 Null404      *on that day\
10:38 did          hi, koha unable to deal with SRU server reply msg type <diagnostics>, it's a Koha issue or a ZOOM one?
10:45 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 13881: DBRev 19.12.00.090 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc421faa0d90da91a14d1d900103d732b732b5bf>
10:45 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 13881: (RM follow-up) Make 'Desks' feature optional <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85243da0b437b30676a6d4d4f490be7c917d5d10>
10:46 mtj          back
10:46 mtj          ^ thanks cait, my pleasure :0)
10:47 ashimema     mtj++
10:50 ashimema     for a daily task getting added to the packages.. would you suggest cron.d vs cron.daily mtj ?
10:51 ashimema     I added to cron.daily as it seemed pretty sensible..
10:51 ashimema     but dcook seems keen for it to be in cron.d instead.. I'm not sure I really understand why
10:55 mtj          ashimema: i am indifferent :) - but i think cron.daily is the established rule
10:56 mtj          ..its where all the other daily koha cron jobs are
10:57 ashimema     mm
10:57 ashimema     and in my understanding they actually operate differently
10:58 ashimema     one is a crontab file and runs at times X
10:58 ashimema     cron.d
10:58 ashimema     the others are anacron and so will run 'some time after X, with delay Y and retry if the machine is off at the time'
10:58 ashimema     .daily, .hourly etc
10:58 ashimema     Joubu ^
11:03 mtj          aah, yes.. good point, the cron.daily jobs all run at a set time (usually 6am?)
11:03 ashimema     other way around I think
11:04 ashimema     cron.d all run at the time specified in the cron file.
11:04 ashimema     cron.daily all run 'some time after a time set by anacron'
11:04 * ashimema   just read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
11:05 mtj          ashimema: we agree :)
11:06 ashimema     ):
11:06 ashimema     :)
11:06 ashimema     even
11:08 mtj          if the job is ok to run whenever in the morning, add it to cron.daily
11:08 mtj          if it needs to run at a specific time during the day, add it to cron.d
11:09 mtj          ..or perhaps just keep it simple, and add it to cron.d? :)
11:09 tuxayo       hi #koha o/
11:10 mtj          ashimema: curious... what was the cron task?
11:10 mtj          hi tuxayo :)
11:11 mtj          ...a bit off-topic, but GTA5 is free this week on the epic store
11:14 oleonard     mtj are you trying to sabotage someone's productivity?
11:14 ashimema     haha
11:15 ashimema     it's a plugins hook
11:15 ashimema     bug 25245 mtj
11:15 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25245 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a plugin hook to allow running code on a nightly basis
11:17 mtj          oleonard:  no comment :)
11:19 mtj          ashimema: i think 25245 needs to be a cron.d job, as its the only way to set a specific job time (without re-scheduling at the other cron.daily jobs too)
11:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #236: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/236/
11:20 tuxayo       > mtj are you trying to sabotage someone's productivity?
11:20 tuxayo       Especially when Linux isn't anymore a way shelter oneself from games ^^
11:20 tuxayo       https://www.protondb.com/app/271590
11:20 tuxayo       No one is safe now!
11:21 ashimema     my question then, is why do you need to set a specific time mtj
11:21 tuxayo       dcook++ # thanks for the work on package bugs
11:21 ashimema     it's intended to be 'daily'..
11:21 mtj          ashimema: ah, then no problem :)
11:22 mtj          ...i lazily assumed that it literally needed to be run at night
11:22 ashimema     I think what de-railed it is that dcook doesn't like that we use .daily at all
11:22 ashimema     he wants full control over all the jobs I feel
11:23 ashimema     for that hook I was going to document that it's just 'daily' and not specify a time.. deliberately
11:23 ashimema     we don't document an exact time for any other jobs
11:23 ashimema     so how/why would one document this one differently
11:24 mtj          agree
11:24 ashimema     there's a bigger question here.. just not in the scope of this bug I feel
11:24 ashimema     similar reasoning for not depending on the job queue bug
11:24 ashimema     no need to hold a simple feature back..
11:24 Joubu        mtj: did you test all packaging related patches?
11:25 mtj          if it doesnt need to run at a specifc time.. its just a 'daily' job
11:25 ashimema     :)
11:25 mtj          Joubu: i think the short answer is no
11:25 ashimema     ta
11:25 mtj          longer answer... nooooo
11:26 Joubu        I've seen you added your stamp on one of them. But in my understanding each of them was blocker
11:26 Joubu        so we need them all applied to have the package built correctly
11:27 Joubu        seems that this assumption is wrong then
11:27 mtj          hmm, ok... i might be a bit behind on the blockers
11:28 mtj          Joubu: can you paste me the bz numbers of the packaging blockers
11:28 mtj          i am happy to take a look
11:29 Joubu        bug 25485, bug 25481, bug 25068 (you validated this one)
11:29 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25485 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , TinyMCE broken in Debian package installs
11:29 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25481 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , koha-plack not working under D10
11:29 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25068 blocker, P1 - high, ---, dcook, Signed Off , koha-common build error caused by missing /etc/searchengine
11:30 mtj          awesome, thanks
11:30 mtj          i only had to apply 25068, to build master on deb9/stretch
11:31 mtj          ah yes, the tinymce bz...
11:32 * ashimema   just fired off a D10_Deps build.. been a while since I ran that
11:35 mtj          tuxayo: thanks! protondb looks amazing
11:37 Joubu        so you don't need me for the packaging issues, good :)
11:38 mtj          Joubu: np, i'll sing out, if i get stuck :)
11:38 tuxayo       mtj: actually it's your productivity that will be sabotaged :P
11:38 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:38 wahanui      Congratulations!
11:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #787: FIXED in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/787/
11:39 Joubu        mtj: if you install from a new built package, could you tell me the result of ls -l/var/log/koha/kohadev/* ?
11:39 Joubu        for bug 25284, I'd like to confirm we won't be hit by permission issues
11:39 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25284 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Can't open /var/log/koha/kohadev/opac-error.log (Permission denied)
11:40 Joubu        mtj: do we have a nightly package built? We used to have one, but is it still available?
11:53 tcohen       morning
11:54 Null404      hello
11:54 wahanui      que tal, Null404
11:55 magnuse      Joubu and ashimema: (sorry for the delay), as cait1 has said, i have used installer/data/mysql/nb-NO both to translate things like greetings (mr/ms/mrs) and set sysprefs to sane defaults (time format etc)
11:55 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24080: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9223a483f1695ea73ee199bd7a001722ecf47f8f>
11:55 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23442: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f32789be1396817da459493693f4d36f663d4e95>
11:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #319: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/319/
11:58 Joubu        magnuse: yes this will be possible with bug 24973, then nb-NO could be removed
11:58 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Allow to localize and translate system preferences with new yaml based installer
11:58 Joubu        good to know
12:03 Null404      I still looking in this report: http://paste.koha-community.org/20548 and now is  fine, but it doesn't count renewal to visits
12:03 Null404      should be renewal or renew ?
12:06 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23403: List borrowernumber in the ILS::Patron fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=29f797b9808f513ca4ba662729f6a8a81edcda68>
12:06 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23403: Remove cardnumber from SIP <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23dd6651f83e42200185130bd340520ea2e945f1>
12:06 Joubu        mtj: bug 25527
12:06 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25527 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Package does not build because of missing log4perl.conf
12:08 Null404      ok, it should be "renew"
12:09 tuxayo       hi tcohen o/
12:10 tuxayo       I hope finally manage to built packages :D
12:10 tuxayo       Though I think I wasn't far to be able to rebuild koha-dpkg
12:10 mtj          Joubu: re nightly pkgs , give me 10
12:10 tuxayo       That will come handy in the future.
12:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #870: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/870/
12:28 tuxayo       tcohen: now I better understand a part of your email. I also get the fail about /etc/koha/log4perl.conf :D
12:31 Joubu        tuxayo: are you working on it?
12:33 tuxayo       Joubu: I would like to, but I don't know where to investigate. Would the dep be missing from the koha-nightly?
12:33 tuxayo       No because that would break DevBoxes and KTD right?
12:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #293: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/293/
12:35 Joubu        tuxayo: bug 25527
12:35 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25527 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Package does not build because of missing log4perl.conf
12:36 tuxayo       thaaaaanks
13:09 mtj          hi Joubu, nightly packages are here-ish..
13:09 mtj          deb [trusted=yes] http://apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-nightly dev main
13:10 Joubu        great, thx mtj!
13:10 ashimema     is anyone already testing bug 25527?
13:10 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25527 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Package does not build because of missing log4perl.conf
13:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1335: UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1335/
13:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #788: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/788/
13:18 cait1        Joubu: are you familiar with how translations via he new TT plugin work?
13:19 cait1        we can't get it to work on our 18.11... and i'd like to debug it but not sure where to start
13:19 cait1        it's bug 21789
13:19 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, CLOSED FIXED, Example usage of I18N Template::Toolkit plugin
13:19 cait1        and the po file is ok: https://translate.koha-community.org/de/18.11/translate/de-DE-messages.po
13:19 cait1        jajm: Or maybe you can help?
13:20 cait1        I thik biblibre also uses 18.11 possibly?
13:21 Joubu        ashimema, tcohen: bug 25529
13:21 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25529 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [OMNIBUS] 20.05 debian packages
13:22 Joubu        cait1: translations are not picked?
13:23 tcohen       Thanks Joubu
13:23 tcohen       JOubu++
13:23 tcohen       Joubu+
13:24 tcohen       I warn you Joubu it seems I will itroduce typos all day
13:24 tcohen       hahaha
13:24 cait1        Joubu: exactly
13:24 Joubu        ok ToMaSiTo
13:24 cait1        always English
13:25 cait1        Could it be a missing dependency on the server? i got it working in my devbox, but fail on our test installations
13:25 Joubu        what does contain the template?
13:26 Joubu        and the po?
13:26 jajm         cait1, verify that you have misc/translator/po/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/Koha.mo
13:27 cait1        hm how and when does this get created?
13:28 jajm         cait1, it is created by `./translate install de-DE`
13:28 cait1        we roll our own packages, if they are on my branch, they shoudl be in the package as well, right?
13:28 cait1        ah ok
13:28 cait1        we reinstalled the language on a package installation, but it didn't help
13:28 cait1        i will have my coworkr check for the file
13:28 Null404      hey cait1
13:29 cait1        jajm: are you aware of any issues with creating that file?
13:29 cait1        it's a package install and likely we have used the package commands
13:30 Null404      cait1: In yours report :http://paste.koha-community.org/20548 there is small error to fix: It should be "renew" instead "renewal"
13:30 Null404      and now is working perfectly
13:30 cait1        Null404: oh sorry
13:30 cait1        that was a bad typo on my part
13:30 Null404      no problem
13:30 jajm         cait1, no, but i'm not familiar with the package installation method
13:30 cait1        are you still using git based?
13:31 jajm         yes
13:31 cait1        alright :)
13:31 cait1        i wonder if using the "old" tools would make a difference
13:31 cait1        compared to using the packagecommands
13:32 tcohen       what do you mean cait1 ?
13:32 jajm         i believe koha-translate use the misc/translator/translate script, so it should not make any difference
13:32 tcohen       exactly
13:32 cait1        tcohen: we updated an existing 17.11 to various versionf of 18.11 but i have problems with the messages po file
13:32 tcohen       it just sets env variables and paths
13:33 tcohen       template cache?
13:33 Null404      now is only three problems to fix: correct translation in staff mode, sql error about reserve books that in quarantine and how to sort "Circulation: Overdues" by date not by surname of reader
13:35 cait1        tcohen: various updates over months... and we usually do restart things
13:35 cait1        would a restart memcache fix it then?
13:35 cait1        tcohen: what's the difference between update and translate for koha-translate?
13:36 cait1        jajm: is it korrekt that the .mo are not shipped with Koha (not in git) but will only be created when you isntall a language?
13:36 tcohen       update certainly removes the translation and regenerates it
13:37 jajm         cait1, that's correct
13:37 cait1        ok, so we need to continue testing on the server
13:37 tuxayo       > is anyone already testing bug 25527?
13:37 tuxayo       ashimema I'm looking at it
13:37 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25527 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Package does not build because of missing log4perl.conf
13:37 ashimema     :)
13:37 ashimema     Thanks tuxayo
13:38 Null404      cait1: you mean memcache service ?
13:38 cait1        jajm: thx for clarifying the process for me .)
13:40 cait1        tcohen: so how to clean the template cache? same as restarting memcached?
13:41 Null404      oh, okay, there is one problem: "Holds queue" don't updates but "Holds awaiting pickup" and "Hold ratios" works
13:41 Null404      and show new reservations
13:43 cait1        Null404: the hodlsqueue depends on a cronjob
13:43 cait1        buildholdsqueue (or similar)
13:43 cait1        it usually only runs every hour by default or whenever you scheudled it
13:43 cait1        you need to check your crons probably
13:44 Null404      cait1: yes restarting memcache fix server  sql error about reserve books that in quarantine
13:44 Null404      very big thanks cait1, again :)
13:45 Null404      so now only to translate staff mode and holds show problem and everything should be ok
13:45 cait1        ah, actually that was about my problem, but if it worked for you too the better: )
13:45 tuxayo       tcohen: Should the second patch also work with log4perl.conf missing?
13:45 tuxayo       https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25527#c5
13:45 huginn       Bug 25527: blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Package does not build because of missing log4perl.conf
13:45 Null404      so after update I need to restart few services, right ?
13:45 tcohen       tuxayo yous
13:45 tcohen       yes
13:46 Null404      good to know
13:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #237: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/237/
13:46 cait1        Null404: something else you might want to do: go to about koha > system ifnoration tab
13:46 cait1        it will highlight issues with your installation
13:47 Null404      "The following ids exist in both tables reserves and old_reserves:  5555, 5556"  and "You are missing the <tmp_path> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. Please add it, pointing to the configured temporary directory for your Koha instance. The effective temporary directory is '/tmp'."
13:47 Null404      noot good
13:47 tcohen       tuxayo: now that you say so, I don't think so
13:47 tuxayo       he he
13:47 cait1        Null404: not super bad either
13:47 Null404      yes
13:47 tcohen       it is weird that those tests were put in the db_dependent dir when they are not
13:47 tcohen       at all
13:49 Joubu        tcohen: see 4e78070b80a24410de57e7b0c6da4db6bd2e3a7e
13:50 Joubu        bug 21567
13:50 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21567 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, CLOSED FIXED, WebService:ILS related tests fail during package build
13:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24255: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cde48f92f5823dea3a8867fcaeab5b7a1902e8f>
13:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24252: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a425ec395cc96c6bb88528ad34ff7ff60f5337a>
13:50 tcohen       completely mocked sounds like not db_dependent
13:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23593: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a00ca6a9d96aa9e9c01fe30619d883b4f50ee58d>
13:50 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23592: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdea1cbd22f2a51cd8269aa9f7db57acfd295e6c>
13:50 tcohen       and also, they don't use Test::DBix::Class
13:50 tcohen       just initialize it for unknown reasons
13:51 Joubu        tcohen: comment 18
13:51 Joubu        "> I: pbuilder: network access will be disabled during build"
13:52 Joubu        it's a network issue
13:52 Joubu        it has been moved as a "trick" to avoid the tests to be run during the build process
14:00 Joubu        tuxayo: Was the package built successfully with 25527?
14:00 tuxayo       patch for bug 25485 works :D cc tcohen ashimema
14:00 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25485 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , TinyMCE broken in Debian package installs
14:00 tuxayo       Whoops
14:00 tuxayo       *patch for bug 25527 works
14:00 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25527 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Package does not build because of missing log4perl.conf
14:01 tuxayo       > Was the package built successfully with 25527?
14:01 tuxayo       Joubu No, I'm posting the logs here.
14:02 Joubu        tuxayo: if it's about CPAN::Meta::Prereqs it's ok, we are on it
14:03 tuxayo       Joubu: that's it!
14:04 tcohen       25527 is independent-ish from successfully packaging
14:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #14: SUCCESS in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/14/
14:05 tuxayo       tcohen: that's why I signed it off anyway when package build wasn't blocked on the log4perl error. (also the test plans are working)
14:07 * oleonard   back in the office (briefly) for the first time in two months...
14:08 cait1        how is it?
14:08 oleonard     Computer wants to update all the things. Otherwise it's quiet. We're not really open yet.
14:09 oleonard     We'll open for real in a week, but I'll continue to work from home since I can.
14:09 * oleonard   thinks it's too early to reopen but it's not my decision
14:11 cait1        are you reopening with all services or are there some limitations/precautions taken?
14:12 oleonard     No events, no story-times, no public meeting room use... No furniture except at the computers
14:12 oleonard     New plexiglass dividers between public computers and in front of the circ desk
14:13 oleonard     Based on the people I see around town almost everyone has given up on wearing a mask in public (if they ever did) :(
14:14 cait1        it's mandatory in public transport here but it's upsetting to see how many people are cheating
14:14 cait1        wearing a mask,b ut not covering the nose etc
14:14 cait1        I avvoid taking the bus, it makes me feel very uncomfortable
14:15 oleonard     Seeing someone with a mask not covering their nose makes me so angry
14:16 cait1        yep
14:17 oleonard     All the staff here will be wearing masks when we reopen but I'll bet many of our patrons won't
14:17 cait1        it's mandatory in shops here too
14:17 cait1        not sure about librareis, possibly a lto have made it mandatory
14:24 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:24 wahanui      Congratulations!
14:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #320: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/320/
14:24 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22970: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5117fab4890f86b8f11a129485917db3d357b920>
14:24 cait1        oleonard: should we kill rounded corners in staff? I've heard they are no longer on trend ;)
14:25 tuxayo       lol
14:27 talljoy      good morning
14:27 lukeG        Good morning Koha
14:27 cait1        good morning
14:28 tuxayo       o/
14:28 tuxayo       Central US starting the day?
14:29 oleonard     cait1: I've been thinking about it :)
14:33 tuxayo       tcohen++ # thanks to your help now I can build koha-dpkg without a prebuilt base image. And also learned a lot about docker ^^
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25527: Add logger to Koha::ExternalContent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05705ab2ad12aff3627eb53e7e4d56d6a4b20bcd>
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25527: Initialize the logger when required <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48e3e6aafb04fbe6eea33da8550c9952a3f52a11>
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25278: add clear_search_fields_cache method <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=067aa1c5f731bc9eac40ff53e6c3be2e58ef1c0f>
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25308: Escape querystring for Z39.50 popup from cataloging <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a24e721dda54e67759c7c10d956ee63da6b8ec5>
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25278: (follow-up) Fix other occurrences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0899d99b7c2ce5920664f4d4710869b2f0d25b81>
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 11446: Use encodeURIComponent on search terms in authority lookup plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8371d10fa5639690a3deb77b64f8079325993ff4>
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25278: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f04129ca45171f8e9c115ca8e25b7dc4b9f9686e>
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25277: Unit test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48ea8edb6188045f24aa3508a4fdb209369b1720>
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25278: Retrieve correct search fields for authorities <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f4ae28cd8de3ae60ab85bc914840a59ae4b1ec2>
14:34 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25277: Don't specify a field in query if none passed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68bcc31dfcdfd48614843ff27a4594a69ef95ed7>
14:45 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:45 wahanui      Congratulations!
14:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #871: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/871/
14:48 cait         ashimema: do you read the bug changes? I am trying to add some descriptions to fine related bugs, but they might need some proof reading
14:48 cait         17702 for example
14:49 Joubu        ashimema: I was trying to understand why search_utf8 was failing on D8 run 870, and I see that it is now fixed in 871
14:49 Joubu        did you know what happened?
14:49 Joubu        do*
14:59 ashimema     er..
15:00 ashimema     cait I read many, but not all..
15:00 cait1        understandable
15:00 cait1        still working on my german feature list, so stumbling around bugzilla some more
15:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #294: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/294/
15:01 ashimema     weird Joubu
15:01 ashimema     most of the changes were simple sponsorship lines being added to bugs.. i.e. empty commits
15:02 Joubu        We also got a selenium failure that is fixed now...
15:02 ashimema     no idea why is suddenly passed :(
15:03 cait         ghosts?
15:33 cait         kidclamp: around? Bug 14567
15:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:34 wahanui      Congratulations!
15:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #238: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/238/
15:35 cait         kidclamp: tried to add some release notes - you might want to check!
15:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1336: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1336/
15:48 kidclamp     minor updates cait
15:48 kidclamp     I made some minor updates cait, thank you!
15:48 cait         np, i also updated it to new feature
15:48 cait         i think it shoudl be
15:50 cait         i am slightly confused by bug 20847 and bug 19793 as both seem to add email to batch mod for patrons?
15:50 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20847 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, RESOLVED FIXED, Add main address, phone, and mobile fields to the Batch patron modification tool
15:50 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, RESOLVED FIXED, Add email to batch patron modification
15:51 cait         ah i think conflict was resolved on pushing :)
15:55 cait         it feels like we resolved a lot of the old 4-digit bug numbres with this release
15:55 cait         love to see :)
15:56 Joubu        cait, ashimema: you spammers!
15:56 Joubu        ;)
15:56 Joubu        see you tomorrow #koha
15:57 cait         :P
15:57 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25188: Sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7587975da2fbc470a4c336ad8fdb5afef8b88926>
15:57 cait         bye Joubu
15:57 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 20847: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a4372c2d579b070335108bce7ea728f3cc206fb>
15:57 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25130: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3acd1bce91e4d43c4abb2317d6650654d2e4ace8>
15:57 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 20370: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4debe59d276926691d866c9c594ca6e0327a8a1a>
15:57 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23119: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d37e3d81da34be89c6d3c65df5fa14bdd16eae93>
15:57 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24976: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be34c35d60267a6ff972bfd9a526696702876308>
15:57 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24484: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4492fad72adc746b956c5f80684db0061df2dae0>
15:59 ashimema     sorry peeps
15:59 ashimema     lots of BZ spam
16:00 cait         not spam
16:00 cait         not real spam at least :)
16:02 tuxayo       he he
16:02 tuxayo       ashimema++ cait++ # thanks for the release notes :D
16:03 ashimema     they're getting there now..
16:03 ashimema     do shout if you spot anything that needs adding tuxayo
16:03 tuxayo       got it!
16:04 ashimema     I'm a fan of showing off how much we help each other out in community and teach/learn from each other.. so feel free to suggest any bugs you might think need a 'Mentored-by' flag adding ;)
16:07 cait1        desks - configuration is there but no furhter functionality yet, right?
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16:24 reiveune     bye
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17:15 ashimema     Correct cait1
17:15 ashimema     That's why I added a quick pref for it
17:15 ashimema     So it's disabled by default
17:16 tcohen       mtj[m] mtj around?
17:19 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:19 wahanui      Congratulations!
17:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1337: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1337/
17:29 tcohen       @later tell dcook I don't see the step in which you build the .deb files
17:29 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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18:29 tuxayo       Does anyone know a way to circumvent the current error related to CPAN::Meta::Prereqs when building a Koha package?
18:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #322: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/322/
18:46 tcohen       tuxayo try updating koha-dpkg
18:49 tuxayo       tcohen: Indeed there is an update. I rebuild it myself one hour ago (in case the perl deps where updated)
19:24 tuxayo       tcohen: odd, I got an early error
19:24 tuxayo       https://copycat.drycat.fr/?97020a919590faff#6bqoYBd47K7LxpaNod3rJDs19nNdGJ7WXQUoSgEhQaPF
19:24 tuxayo       gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
19:25 tuxayo       If in "docker run" there is "koha/koha-dpkg:master" then it should use any of my manually built stuff right?
19:53 tuxayo       khall: hi o/
19:53 tuxayo       for bug 25535 would the test plan be to run
19:53 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25535 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Hold API mapping maps cancellationdate to cancelation_date, but it should be cancellation_date
19:53 tuxayo       prove t/db_dependent/api/v1/holds.t
20:11 lisettelatah Good news for people on Windows who want to do dev stuff on a home computer: the next major windows 10 update that will be out later this month will enable docker desktop to be installed on a PC running Home instead of Pro or Enterprise
20:48 tuxayo       It wasn't possible ?! :o
21:26 tuxayo       rangi++ # thanks for bug 25485 :D
21:26 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25485 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , TinyMCE broken in Debian package installs
21:43 tcohen       tuxayo check the latest changes in koha-dpkg-docker
21:50 tuxayo       tcohen: I made a typo in my earlier message
21:50 tuxayo       «If in "docker run" there is "koha/koha-dpkg:master" then it should use any of my manually built stuff right?»
21:50 tuxayo       If in "docker run" there is "koha/koha-dpkg:master" then it shouldn't use any of my manually built stuff right?
21:51 tcohen       it will now
21:51 tcohen       ah no
21:51 tcohen       right
21:51 tcohen       if you use docker run koha/koha-dpkg:master
21:51 tuxayo       Docker build yes.
21:51 tcohen       it will have all the base.tgz bundled inside
21:51 tcohen       docker build, requires you download the image or generate it
21:52 tcohen       you highlighted the design issue
21:52 tuxayo       Here is the new error that I got:
21:52 tuxayo       https://copycat.drycat.fr/?97020a919590faff#6bqoYBd47K7LxpaNod3rJDs19nNdGJ7WXQUoSgEhQaPF
21:52 tuxayo       «you highlighted the design issue» What do you mean?
21:53 tcohen       it is not handy
21:53 tcohen       even for me, to upload the image to a specific place
21:53 tcohen       to fetch it wieh calling docker build LOL
21:53 tcohen       if this was part of some CI pipeline, the wget could just happen before docker build
21:53 tcohen       and that's all
21:54 tuxayo       It should be part of the build right? To generate a new base image. Or maybe another docker image.
21:55 tuxayo       Once the README is complete it's not a big deal though. At least for users.
21:55 tuxayo       Now it's even better with your latest changes
21:59 tuxayo       Library question: Does anyone know what this means?
21:59 tuxayo       «Edit a record to have the first and second postions in the 008 = 'cb'.»
21:59 tuxayo       I have in my example record «880303s1988    nju           001 0 eng  »
22:00 cait         which bug is that?
22:00 cait         and are you testing with marc21 or unimarc?
22:01 tuxayo       bug 25269
22:01 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25269 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Needs Signoff , MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl does not display all formats (physical descriptions)
22:01 tuxayo       marc21
22:01 tcohen       tuxayo the README is complete. It suggests you download the bas_*.tgz if you need it, or create your own with clear instructions
22:01 tuxayo       I betrayed UNIMARC :P
22:02 cait         hm
22:02 tuxayo       tcohen: By «Once the README is complete it's not a big deal though» I meant «now that the README is complete»
22:02 cait         http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008.html
22:02 cait         first and second don't ake sense
22:02 cait         that's the date
22:02 cait         ah
22:02 cait         007
22:03 cait         it looks ike something got mixed up between test plan and patch
22:03 cait         the patch makes changes for 007
22:03 cait         http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd007.html
22:05 tuxayo       cait: I see, it's the Category of material, which has letter codes
22:05 tuxayo       thanks !
23:06 tcohen       @later tell dcook I need more info on how your deb builder works :-D
23:06 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.