Time Nick Message 21:13 tuxayo cait++ 20:14 cait 23849 20:14 cait oh hea 20:14 cait hm? 20:14 tuxayo Thanks I'll try to find it 20:14 tuxayo > i tihnk there is a bug somewhere 20:14 tuxayo cait 20:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , impossible update to subversion > .04 in koha 19.05 debian installation 20:08 cait can someone help with a packages question? bug 25380 20:08 cait i tihnk there is a bug somewhere 20:08 cait tuxayo - we should update the list of prefs we send to hea 19:08 tuxayo https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences 19:08 tuxayo IIUC, we have no way of knowing ES adoption in Hea right? 16:19 tuxayo TimothyAlexis were you able to do what you wanted to do by using koha-testing-docker? 16:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22520 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Be Elastic compliant 7.x and 8.x (_doc) 16:15 tuxayo There doesn't seem to be anything related to ES 7 other than bug 22520 16:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, [Omnibus] Prepare Koha to ElasticSearch6 - ES6 16:14 tuxayo It's the same idea as bug 20196 16:14 tuxayo [Omnibus] Prepare Koha to ElasticSearch 7 - ES7 16:14 tuxayo Should the following bug be open? 16:14 caroline irc.koha-community.org/koha/2020-04-09#i_2236096 16:10 caroline ashimema[m]: can you run the script to generate meeting minutes for the last docs meeting? It happened on april 9 and the minutes arent in the wiki 15:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22248 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Error when incrementing Mana comment 15:55 tuxayo oleonard: can you still reproduce Bug 22248 ? 15:08 tuxayo Is koha-remove expected to work in koha-testing-docker? 14:59 reiveune bye 14:32 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:32 Joubu @later tell TimothyAlexis_ there is an "edit" button at the top of https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/merge_requests/117 14:00 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17355: Fix failing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d97c44b8e733235e6fc70c461c4c9ff943f1368> 14:00 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18308: (RM follow-up) Clarify intent of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4071924f7f9438c344e878a86d29792f83c06704> 13:43 tuxayo Ok, let's continue digging ^^ 13:42 tcohen I'm adding a blocker... once I figure the regression tests LOL 13:33 Joubu easy, it should take a couple of hours 13:33 Joubu tuxayo: sign all the things off 13:32 tuxayo ? (likely English comprehension issue) 13:32 ashimema[m] tuxayo is on a role 13:31 tuxayo Is there anything else more useful to do now? (after feature freeze) Than continuing to sign off lower severity bugs. 13:31 tuxayo No more patches to sign off that are blocker or critical or major. (except 1 that is for the next release) 13:31 tuxayo No more patches to sign off that are rel_20_05_candidate 13:21 huginn tcohen: I suck 13:21 tcohen @magnuse glad to hear 13:21 magnuse tcohen: so it was, i was using position instead of column... 13:21 tuxayo oleonard: I'm noting it for after the release. Not sure I will be able to troubleshoot the issues. But I will try ^^ 13:19 Joubu you need to ask for tcohen to merge it now ;) 13:19 Joubu Awesome TimothyAlexis_, thanks! 13:17 TimothyAlexis_ Joubu Thank you. 13:17 oleonard Yes 13:16 tuxayo oleonard: It will be for the next cycle right? As it's an enhancement. 13:13 TimothyAlexis_ --amend... 13:13 Joubu TimothyAlexis_: git push with -f to replace the remote branch 13:13 TimothyAlexis_ Joubu: I did git commit -amend and change the commit message. 13:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24223 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert OpacNav system preference to news block 13:11 oleonard I could use help with a couple of issues with Bug 24223 if anyone has time to look 13:08 huginn tcohen: I've exhausted my database of quotes 13:08 tcohen @magnuse it might be a problem with the configuration syntax 13:08 cait1 item form 13:08 cait1 my tem form is missing... and it leads to function BindPluginEvents(data) { 13:07 magnuse tcohen: yes, very weird 13:07 cait1 someone seen this erro on orderreceive.pl ? TypeError: window[events[i]] is not a function 13:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17355 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Authorised value categories cannot be deleted 13:07 magnuse bug 17355 13:05 Joubu the magic is in the # 13:04 Joubu TimothyAlexis_: if you start the commit message with "Issue #XXX" the merge request will be linked automatically with the issue you are referring to 13:01 tcohen we use it very oftern 13:01 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 13:01 huginn tcohen: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 13:01 tcohen @magnuse that sounds weird 13:00 ashimema[m] 17355 12:51 magnuse trying to use koha-plugin-csv2marc, but every subfield i define gets the value from the first column? weird... 12:25 TimothyAlexis_ Thank you Joubu. 12:15 Joubu ashimema[m]: you forgot the follow-up on 17355 12:10 Joubu then go to https://gitlab.com/YOUR_ACCOUNT/koha-testing-docker and you will see a "create a pull request" button 12:09 Joubu git push my_repo your_local_branch_name:issue_XXX (XXX the issue number) 12:09 tcohen morning 12:09 Joubu git fetch my_repo 12:09 tuxayo ^^ 12:09 Joubu you should have `git remote add my_repo https://gitlab.com/YOUR_ACCOUNT/koha-testing-docker.git` 12:08 Joubu did you push a remote branch with your change? 12:06 TimothyAlexis_ Joubo: Merge requests are e-mailed ? 11:57 TimothyAlexis_ Thank you Joubu. 11:54 cait1 :) 11:53 TimothyAlexis_ tuxayo or even better, you're Human. Seems to be one of the best wins in this reality. 11:52 TimothyAlexis_ tuxayo You're fine :) 11:47 tuxayo Ok, sorry for the confusion. 11:47 Joubu no 11:46 tuxayo Aren't README correction for koha-sandboxes-docker ? 11:46 tuxayo > I made corrections in README.md 11:46 Joubu You should create the gitlab account, clone the original repo, push the branch to your repo, then gitlab will ask you if you want to create the pull request from this branch 11:45 TimothyAlexis_ tuxayo: Yes and it is for koha-testing-docker 11:45 Joubu yes 11:45 TimothyAlexis_ Joubu do I need to create a GitLab account? 11:45 tuxayo > Joubu I've had lunch now and I made corrections in README.md 11:45 tuxayo TimothyAlexis_: I was refering to this: 11:45 Joubu TimothyAlexis_: commit with "Issue #XXX - commit title", then create the merge request 11:42 TimothyAlexis_ So, I've cloned koha-testing-docker and I've installed docker-ce and docker-compose. I also added my user to the docker group. 11:37 TimothyAlexis_ And related to this issue: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues/166 11:35 TimothyAlexis_ https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/ 11:35 tuxayo *edited 11:35 tuxayo And redited the README? 11:35 tuxayo TimothyAlexis_: You mean you forked this? https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-sandboxes-docker 11:30 cait1 just trying to catch them all 11:29 cait1 ah, sorry again :) 11:27 magnuse cait1: yeah, you reminded me on the bug ;-) 11:23 cait1 probably we are missing the older ones 11:23 cait1 oh, it's already there! 11:23 cait1 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Plugin_Hooks magnuse pretty please? 11:22 TimothyAlexis Joubu I've had lunch now and I made corrections in README.md 11:22 cait1 hm please add this to the wiki :) 11:10 huginn Bug 22706: new feature, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to master , Add plugin hooks to allow custom password strength checking modules 11:10 magnuse ashimema[m]: see https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22706#c5 for history 10:58 ashimema[m] hmm, ok 10:58 magnuse no, i think i had it working, then qa found that the order things were done broke something else, the plugin code got moved and i did not test properly 10:57 ashimema[m] I see 10:57 ashimema[m] I wondered if it was deliberate 10:57 magnuse i have not had the tuits to look properly at it, just figure out a workaruond 10:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #852: STILL FAILING in 7 min 50 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/852/ 10:57 ashimema[m] the password would get passed, but the borrowernumber would be uninitialised 10:56 ashimema[m] borrowernumber being passed prior to it existing 10:56 ashimema[m] indeed 10:56 magnuse i think that is how it works now 10:55 magnuse if a new user is added from scratch, the password does not get passed to the plugin 10:54 magnuse yeah, there is something wrong there, where maybe the borrowernumber is used before it is created or something? 10:50 ashimema[m] just working on some failing tests and the code looked weird. 10:50 ashimema[m] to works out if it's a new user that is.. 10:50 kidclamp tuxayo: either reset mappings in staff interface, or pass -r to rebuild_elasticsearch 10:50 ashimema[m] do you bind on there not being a borrowernumber in the check_password part of the patron db plugin you have? 10:49 magnuse ashimema[m]: yup 10:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1309: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1309/ 10:49 magnuse yup 10:47 ashimema[m] magnuse around? 10:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #217: FAILURE in 1 min 45 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/217/ 10:47 tuxayo kidclamp: what does «Refresh index settings» means? 10:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #769: ABORTED in 15 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/769/ 10:44 tuxayo o/ 10:44 oleonard Hi all 10:34 tuxayo Thanks, I'll try this. I know almost nothing about authorities so I might as well stick to the test plan to avoid adding confusion. 10:33 kidclamp yes 10:32 tuxayo Is this ↑ the way suggested in the test plan? 10:32 kidclamp then you can edit headings in catalog without being forced to link 10:31 kidclamp requires you to set: BiblioAddsAuthorities to Allow 10:31 kidclamp i.e. asking Koha to find the link, rather than you manually linking 10:30 kidclamp or CatalogModuleRelink 10:30 kidclamp misc/link_bibs_to_authorities.pl 10:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #274: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/274/ 10:29 tuxayo kidclamp: what is the other way than linking in cataloguing? 10:26 kidclamp otherwise it will already be linked :-) 10:25 kidclamp if you link it in cataloging make sure you are set to Relink in the sysprefs 10:24 tuxayo *forgot to 10:24 tuxayo woops, for got enable ES and index. starting over ^^ 10:20 tuxayo open the tag editor to replace the auth by one I choose related to the test plan. 10:20 tuxayo kidclamp: for example I could search for a record; edit it; go to the 650; 10:17 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24163: Allow to define CSV profile for late orders export <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3cf6d99948e81a5037bd956a1823e7485a65bd91> 10:17 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24163: Add the csv into the DB - as an example <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af4d8a5751ed024bdf0de023394b028175744475> 10:17 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24162: Add quantity column to the late orders page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dccf4518d46e94970b1b39082d8ec1e326de35ff> 10:17 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15727: Add MARC21 385 - Audience to detail pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ebfa1a74a1f2265f6af8121dc5c9d36cb95ea68> 10:16 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24163: (QA follow-up) Fix wordings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a5cdfa37fbd5c66fdd8a33f91c843278fb2a0c8> 10:16 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24163: Add the new CSV profile to other installer files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2042cb65310072a5c00205fe1d632deac00e639e> 10:16 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24163: UTF-8 encode the output <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a02f0b077752d0a686afae5aa7428c3fab1c4cd2> 10:16 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24162: Add missing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=563d316bba4deda338aff3e0f20ee46622083b9c> 10:16 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24162: Add quantity column to the columns settings config <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5eb07b28eb8db9b2e3a72b13b740a0a003eb1d84> 10:16 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24163: DBRev 19.12.00.086 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdf786b0aa0dc1d9fed489335fcfb0bf2cf9ea43> 10:13 kidclamp or a 100 if a personal name, etc 10:12 kidclamp add a 650 in the record that is controlled by an authority in your system 10:09 tuxayo It about authorities. 10:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25273 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Elasticsearch Authority matching is returning too many results 10:09 tuxayo question about bug 25273 What does "placing a heading for a term in a record" means? 10:07 cait1 incoming... :) 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in de-DE installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13773753448f3cad6922e868ffca49dd4991474d> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in uk-UA installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9569c5e31f9df0bac0c8989f7dafd0b0d8088e4e> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in ru-RU installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f298b30fe3a7cb8f64cecb6d20e2cb157defd537> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in nb-NO installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f06bd7be16596a4fb189f60137c86d727e279336> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in en installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05b21df1db4726e3f94252bbb032a984607a3991> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in fr-FR installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a722e5970b6a3a7f268086a6d7fee30466fb7d7> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in pl-PL installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fee4fe4f88a23a4fa109b4ccc829e03773cef43b> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in it-IT installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b72cd6b12f01d574462512f68a8f8035ad0c6bb> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22335: Fix comment on suggestions.STATUS in kohastructure.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=031e53958a400d491a502a1c32bf89d3bcfeb0dd> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18670: Remove RewriteLog and RewriteLogLevel from sample config files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=21d0d69b4fc126c8c2242c57950b8cf1d45bf482> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: (follow-up) fix 490 subfield visibility (EN) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09ccb2e96844ddfcbbe4d3007a71ed614fe371d3> 10:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: (follow-up) fix 490 subfield visibility (DE) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cbe7bc17a80760d4ed849d95b1de02ce8f1a402> 10:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7947: (follow-up) fix 490 subfield visibility (IT) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a8775cfabd674207112f0c205dc1bd2578040e1> 10:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24769: (bug 14711 follow-up) Fix typo in parameter name for AddReserve <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05b39b50e0d2a2776b38c2ef17dc78ffb8cfc573> 10:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24769: (bug 14711 follow-up 2) Fix typo in parameter name for AddReserve <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ec2d13b9da8ca42a2553ca4e6b781d807678240> 10:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23185: Make Koha::Objects->update loop on the object set if needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6235d0cfa16e5278a32ba6a4814f67ee4ad575b1> 10:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23185: (QA follow-up) Semantics, split fields and options <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=633befb5f0e23306586aedf3219fefab5fa719f0> 10:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23185: (QA follow-up) Add POD for Koha::Objects->update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe2ac51b2732befe9e4f9b8d2c85d6d94de525a3> 10:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24769: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48d887c2363b7611036cf336b3abf83aea3381fe> 10:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23185: (RM follow-up) Minor POD wording update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8457804bcf6b6b51703a2fa1143d0dfd539e4e4b> 09:57 Joubu not sure we need more patches :D 09:56 Joubu you should not have pushed both 09:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #851: STILL FAILING in 3 min 14 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/851/ 09:56 Joubu ly 09:56 Joubu ashimema[m]: Martin, we fixed the same thing but different 09:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18308: fix failing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd141a74458f739ce74e627376b97ea72df0c0c6> 09:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18308: (RM follow-up) Fix failing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0575bc22d14b7a14ba38df51432114f53230bd2f> 09:41 TimothyAlexis After lunch 09:40 Joubu I can guide you if needed 09:40 Joubu it will help others :) 09:40 Joubu TimothyAlexis: if you want to something fun, you can create a pull request for that issue: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues/166 09:39 TimothyAlexis Thank you Joubu, you have once again been there to help. 09:31 Joubu then run the ku alias as your usual user 09:31 Joubu TimothyAlexis: sudo usermod -aG docker ${USER} 09:31 TimothyAlexis Because the bash_aliases are defined in ~/.bashrc 09:30 TimothyAlexis If I run "sudo ku" I get "sudo: ku: command not found" 09:30 TimothyAlexis Joubu if I run it as myself I get this error "ERROR: Couldn't connect to Docker daemon at http+docker://localhost - is it running?" 09:30 Joubu no you don't need to run it as root 09:30 Joubu TimothyAlexis: define KOHA_TESTING_DOCKER_HOME in .bashrc, then source it (or open a new terminal) 09:29 TimothyAlexis Joubu I need to run the ku alias as root 09:29 Joubu no root needed 09:29 cait1 TimothyAlexis: that was me on the bug, if you were wondering 09:28 * cait1 waves 09:28 TimothyAlexis Joubu so I have defined things in .bashrc but need to run this with root, do you know where I can set these things globally? 09:27 wahanui Joubu: I forgot that 09:27 Joubu wahanui: forget that 09:27 Joubu README.md:export KOHA_TESTING_DOCKER_HOME=/path/to/your/koha-testing-docker/clone 09:27 Joubu :q 09:27 Joubu did you define KOHA_TESTING_DOCKER_HOME? 09:27 wahanui that is what blou added in his patch 09:27 Joubu that? 09:26 Joubu TimothyAlexis: 1 alias ku='cd "${KOHA_TESTING_DOCKER_HOME}"; docker-compose -f docker-compose.yml -p koha up --force-recreate' 09:20 TimothyAlexis "ERROR: for koha_koha_1 Cannot create container for service koha: create .: volume name is too short, names should be at least two alphanumeric characters" 09:20 TimothyAlexis I get this error when I'm trying to start koha-testing-docker using the ku alias. 08:49 nlegrand hey cait1 ! 08:46 Joubu ashimema[m]: follow-up for failing tests on 17355 and 18308 08:46 Joubu it should be easier to install and to understand how it works 08:45 Joubu ;) 08:45 Joubu yes, give it a try and let us know if you face any issues ; 08:45 TimothyAlexis Now I will install koha-testing-docker 08:45 TimothyAlexis so as things progressed I eventually installed the system locally 08:45 TimothyAlexis I wanted to try a sandbox and they were down 08:44 TimothyAlexis Joubu well.. 08:43 Joubu TimothyAlexis: why did you read about koha-sandboxes-docker? Maybe we should add an additional note about it to avoid the confusion 08:42 TimothyAlexis Joubu yeah I noticed, I have purged all the stuff that was installed with it with help from my very knowledgeable colleague 08:42 Joubu TimothyAlexis: yes, definitely, most of the devs moved to koha-testing-docker 08:42 Joubu the sandbox system will generate you such (fancy) interface http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com 08:42 TimothyAlexis Joubu do you recommend it over Kohadevbox? 08:42 tuxayo +1 08:41 Joubu TimothyAlexis: for development purpose you should use koha-testing-docker directly, you will remove some unecessary layers of complexity 08:40 TimothyAlexis It creates instances of that. 08:36 tuxayo https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker 08:36 tuxayo TimothyAlexis: this: 08:36 tuxayo Hoooo, indeed, it's not koha-testing-docker 08:36 tuxayo TimothyAlexis: is it an alternative to running ku/ku-md10 and the variants ? 08:36 Joubu Why are you using koha-sandboxes-docker? 08:35 TimothyAlexis tuxayo to run run setup-sandbox-server.sh all over again... 08:34 tuxayo TimothyAlexis: what do you mean by "set it all up again"? 08:08 Joubu did that answer the different questions? Should I let that on the bug if that was not obvious yet? 08:07 Joubu Why I did not write my own broker? Because I am lazy 08:07 Joubu why RabbitMQ? Because it's the most flexible, reliable and known. Others exist 08:07 Joubu then why a message broker? Because we need it async, and flexible (you don't want a big cronjob every X minutes that will consume all the pending tasks) 08:06 TimothyAlexis Hello, I have tried koha-sandboxes-docker locally and after restarting the computer it seems that I have to set it all up again. Is there a simpler way? 08:06 Joubu that are use case examples for the producer/consumer architecture 08:05 Joubu background jobs (from tools basically), task scheduler, then everything that need to be done async could fit here (reindex, etc.) 08:04 ashimema[m] Breakfast.. bbiab 08:03 ashimema[m] It's the use cases I don't understand 08:03 Joubu please read the commit msg of the first patch 08:03 ashimema[m] The code looks fine to me 08:03 ashimema[m] Could we not let my Cron based thing in and convert it to use whatever backend later once it's surfaces.. I'm happy to help work through it with you next cycle.. I just haven't had enough time this cycle to get to grips with the use cases.. 08:03 Joubu please read t 08:03 Joubu sorry to insist, but the use cases of what? 08:02 ashimema[m] Hugs 08:02 ashimema[m] Jumping on RabbitMQ or any other message broker' based system feels like a massive task to understand the code especially when the use cases aren't entirely clear. 08:01 Joubu do it! :) 08:01 ashimema[m] With very minimal code 08:01 ashimema[m] Which in reality is a simple enough thing to fix 08:01 ashimema[m] I suppose I just don't want another cycle where my clients can't install the recalls plugin because we don't have a way to schedule tasks 07:59 ashimema[m] It's the 'why we need a message broker' bit I'm least familiar with really.. 07:58 cait1 hi nlegrand :) 07:55 nlegrand a gut yor #koha 07:55 Joubu ashimema[m]: I am not asking to require RabbitMQ. It's the most flexible of the message-broker server, there are others, lighter, but I have not tried them 07:52 ashimema[m] OK.. I'll take another look 07:50 Joubu but I need feedback for that 07:50 Joubu I can modify the implementation for the 5th times if needed 07:50 Joubu I tried to follow standards/state of the art in that area 07:49 Joubu this is one of the use cases 07:49 * ashimema[m] runs off for breakfast.. but will watch the chat 07:48 ashimema[m] I find it hard to judge whether it's good or not if I can't see the use cases to test it against ;) 07:48 Joubu + load balancing 07:48 Joubu say you have 5 Koha installs on the same server, RabbitMQ can deal with: "worker for instance xxx will process job for 'modification item' now" 07:48 ashimema[m] I've lost the use cases 07:48 ashimema[m] my point is I don't wany yet another huge dependancy if actually all we need is one task executing once every few hours 07:47 ashimema[m] but what flexability.. 07:47 ashimema[m] this isn't to pick holes.. just trying to understand 07:47 Joubu flexibility? 07:47 ashimema[m] I've lost the reasoning behind why we need one at all? 07:47 ashimema[m] ok.. to 'Why do we need a massaging server' ? 07:46 Joubu RabbitMQ is highly configurable, and it is what sysop need to deal with background jobs/tasks scheduler, etc. 07:46 ashimema[m] what's the minimum server requirements to run RabbitMQ, ElasticSearch, MySQL et al... 07:46 Joubu yes, I could have a messaging server, but prefered to reuse something that existed 07:46 ashimema[m] how does it play in multi-tenant installations.. 07:46 ashimema[m] it's another big dependancy to manage 07:45 Joubu why not? 07:45 ashimema[m] what are we trying to resolve by adding RebbitMQ 07:45 Joubu why what? 07:45 ashimema[m] the thing I am least clear of is the 'why'.. 07:44 ashimema[m] What are the use cases you are catering for with bug 22417 Joubu ? 07:43 cait1 i think it just means slow = not for this release 07:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Delegate background jobs execution 07:43 cait1 bug 22417 07:43 cait1 the authorised value needs to be used in the framework - linked to 041$a - did you do that step? 07:42 cait1 can i catch you quickly abotu my xslt bug? 07:42 cait1 Joubu: morning :) 07:41 Joubu dcook, khall, tcohen: I'd like to know why you think the task queue (22417) is not something we are going to get "any time soon". It's high on my priority list and there are patches. I provided several implementation of it following the different (slow) feedbacks I got. What next? What is missing? 06:56 alex_a Bonjour 06:38 * magnuse waves 06:34 reiveune hello 03:12 koha-jenkins Project Master_Packages build #4: STILL FAILING in 52 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/4/ 03:08 koha-jenkins Project Master_Packages build #3: ABORTED in 3 min 58 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/3/ 03:01 koha-jenkins Project Master_Packages build #2: FAILURE in 1 min 11 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/2/ 02:57 koha-jenkins Project Master_Packages build #1: ABORTED in 58 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/1/