Time Nick Message 20:14 * cait waves 19:16 oleonard Thanks lukeG1 ! 18:25 oleonard Never seen that before 18:25 oleonard Hey y'all what is this about? {UNKNOWN}: Can't open /var/log/koha/kohadev/opac-error.log (Permission denied) at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Appender/File.pm line 143. at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/Patron.pm line 345 17:58 philor_ did JSON.stringify already do what encodeURIComponent does and encodeURI does not? 17:57 philor_ hmm, why aren't you broken http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/quotes-upload.tt;h=dc5da4b0f241a28136542c31d473875b045456b1;hb=HEAD#l347 ? 17:33 huginn caroline: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. 17:33 caroline @wunder montreal 17:08 tcohen back from power outage! 14:59 reiveune bye 14:55 cait1 rramalho: glad you figured it out, such things can be tricky 14:45 rramalho wierd stuff on the firewall 14:45 rramalho now that almost everyone is working from home 14:44 rramalho no one ever noticed this, because almost no one was working from home 14:44 rramalho It was happening to all clients connected via VPN 14:16 oleonard git blame is bullying me today 14:15 eythian when seeing things that happen within a network only, the first thing I'd look to is if there's weird local DNS stuff happening (for example, one DNS server not responding - though you'd possibly see that across multiple URLs, depending) or a proxy in the way. 14:10 oleonard Not at all rramalho, I'm happy to help 14:10 rramalho so very sorry 14:10 rramalho I'm sorry for your time 14:09 rramalho thanks 14:09 rramalho very wierdly, it's something that only happens inside our network 14:09 rramalho ok 14:08 oleonard rramalho it works very quickly for me 14:07 rramalho It won't open until a very big timeout 14:07 rramalho now try to open any link 14:06 oleonard rramalho For what it's worth, my search in your OPAC for "state economy" returned results very quickly 14:06 TimothyAlexis oleonard :D 14:05 oleonard TimothyAlexis thank you for modifying "memorable" with "happily" :D 14:04 TimothyAlexis oleonard, Thank you for the guidance. I wish you superb health, well-being and happily memorable times ahead. :D 14:04 tcohen just pm 14:04 tcohen lari I'm open to discuss any ideas you might have 14:04 rramalho Same thing happens on the intranet/Backoffice 14:04 rramalho http://catalogo.cm-oeiras.pt/ 14:03 rramalho I've just restarted all services and after the problem persisted, I've rebooted 14:03 rramalho and the koha server itself had an uptime of 200 days 14:03 rramalho the database server only had package updates 14:02 rramalho nop 14:02 oleonard rramalho has anything changed recently? Hardware change, Koha upgrade? 14:01 lari It's good like this, just a thought 14:00 tcohen lari we can explore that, I haven't. I felt comfortable with devs explicitly writing there might be unhandled exceptions 14:00 rramalho It's our server 14:00 cait1 rramalho: i am sorry, I am not coming up with anything that could cause this 14:00 rramalho yeah 14:00 oleonard rramalho do you manage the server Koha is installed on? 13:59 rramalho Can anyone help me? 13:59 lari if so we wouldnt have to write anything in the controllers 13:59 lari tcohen: good work with the api exception handling. do you know if it's possible to pass the exception into a hook by itself, maybe before render 13:55 rramalho koha 18.05.02.000 13:55 oleonard TimothyAlexis, you could file a bug for the markup corrections and submit two patches on it: one for indentation and another for markup 13:55 rramalho If I search "state economy" it'll timeout after a while 13:54 rramalho returns the results just fine 13:54 rramalho It's fine 13:54 rramalho If the search is just a work like "economy" 13:53 rramalho When I search for something on the OPAC 13:53 rramalho I'm having an issue that I can't find a solution for 13:53 TimothyAlexis Could these be treated as one issue? 13:53 rramalho We use Koha on our Municipality to manage all public Libraries 13:52 TimothyAlexis Other than that is was minor things like reduntant whitespace characters and inconsistent closing comments. 13:52 rramalho i'm talking from Portugal 13:52 rramalho Hi! 13:51 TimothyAlexis The changes I made was for the code to agree with the https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines 13:50 oleonard So the first step would be to file a bug report for each of the issues you found, and make them dependent on each other if necessary 13:50 cait1 good decision :) 13:49 TimothyAlexis That's why I came here. :) 13:49 TimothyAlexis Yeah I figured. 13:49 oleonard Indentation corrections would be just one issue, and shouldn't be mixed with other changes 13:49 oleonard TimothyAlexis we try to keep patches specific to one issue, each tied to a separate bug report 13:48 TimothyAlexis So I went through the whole file and made corrections. 13:48 TimothyAlexis We have custom code in there which I was fixing but I noticed there was a lot to fix in the base too. 13:45 TimothyAlexis I was working with opac-detail.tt and made a ton of fixes with indentation and such. 13:44 oleonard Yes 13:44 TimothyAlexis Hello, is this the proper channel to bring stuff about code? 13:19 cait1 no idea 13:18 * oleonard assumes you can revoke a share in, for instance, Google Drive? 13:17 cait1 and you lose access to the data :) 13:17 cait1 and then the other kicks you out 13:17 cait1 you work on something for homeowrk (or whatever) together 13:17 cait1 maybe also bcause it would be mean 13:15 oleonard Confusing because we don't want to build in a mechanism for notifying the person that the list was unshared 13:14 magnuse too confusing for the sharer to unshare the share 13:14 oleonard Why can't the sharer un-share the list? 13:13 oleonard Seems weird that the list "remove share" link is only on the list for the user with whom the list is shared 12:02 * oleonard brb 11:53 Null404 I'm trying via ssh 11:53 Null404 a files are difrent 11:53 Null404 I'm trying to copy opac.css file from main server to test one 11:50 tcohen what are you trying to do? 11:50 tcohen whats up Null404 11:48 wahanui hey, Null404 11:48 Null404 hello 11:48 tcohen hi alll 11:16 cait1 you might be just on time 11:16 cait1 hi oleonard :) 11:07 Null404 is in : /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/css 11:07 Null404 okay, I found opac.css location on Ubuntu 11:06 oleonard Hi #koha 10:54 davidnind Joubu++ 10:51 Joubu now it is, weird 10:50 Joubu it's not wahanui 10:50 wahanui wiki is back :) 10:50 Joubu wiki? 10:33 Joubu IIRC we always send the Koha::Hold object 10:29 khall Joubu as long as you've verified all reserve notices use the pk now, that is a good fix 10:28 Null404 hi 10:27 khall mornin! 09:33 Joubu gitlab stopped sending me notifications, hum?... 09:33 Joubu Thanks ashimema 09:32 ashimema have a good one #koha 09:32 * ashimema goes back to playing with the kids 09:32 ashimema cait1.. one for your next weekly mail.. :) 09:31 ashimema ^ 09:31 wahanui qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall 09:31 ashimema qa_team? 09:31 ashimema qateam? 09:31 ashimema Joubu++ 09:31 ashimema heads up qateam.. lots of improvements to the QA script just merged 09:30 cait1 Null404: the RM and RMaints pull in the most current files for every version before each release - so you can also fix stuff in older ones, while they are still maintained 09:29 Null404 ok, thanks for info 09:28 Joubu Null404: in the next release 09:26 Null404 if translating is done will names automatic updated ? 09:25 davidnind One of the many tasks that need people to do them! :) 09:25 Null404 okay 09:24 davidnind Null404: others can confirm (or say otherwise), but I think it depends how much of the translation has been done https://translate.koha-community.org/projects/19.11/ 09:17 Null404 It in normal that some functions are in English language instead Polsih in KOHA 19.11 ? 09:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to change homebranch in course reserves 09:15 jajm cait1, i submitted new patches to bug 22630, qa tool is happy now :) 09:15 cait1 (10:49:22) Joubu: jajm: is_boolean can be part of a "DB changes" commit (kohastructure, atomic update, etc.) 09:15 cait1 you shoudl listen to Joubu - ia m not making much sense today :) 09:14 jajm cait1, that's a vague conclusion :) 09:13 cait1 jajm: talking to Joubu - missing some lines somewhere is the conclusion 09:08 nlegrand a git yur 09:08 ashimema I have scripts to regenerate the schema as part of push anyway to help me catch issues 09:07 wahanui Greetings, programs! 09:07 Null404 Hello there 09:07 ashimema As RM I don't worry too much.. I tend to convert the commit message.. 09:06 ashimema I am not sure why we do the whole Don not push schema commits 08:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to change homebranch in course reserves 08:56 cait1 bug 22630 08:51 Joubu missing from? 08:50 cait1 Joubu: so something is still missing? 08:50 jajm i don't mind one line commits ;) 08:49 Joubu if you want to avoid a one line commit ;) 08:49 Joubu jajm: is_boolean can be part of a "DB changes" commit (kohastructure, atomic update, etc.) 08:48 jajm Joubu, ok thanks 08:48 jajm cait1, no, there's a piece of code to add manually, i'm just asking if i should attach only that to the bug report, or also the generated parts 08:48 Joubu jajm: generate schema files commit separately, then add a separate commit for the is_boolean change 08:47 cait1 I am used to people adding the schema files, i might have just forgot, if nothing is missing on your side 08:47 cait1 Joubu: around ? 08:47 cait1 maybe i forgot to run dbic? 08:47 cait1 oh 08:46 jajm cait1, how should i fix that ? should i only add the piece of code at the end of schema file (like in https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#DBIC_schema_files) even if the column is not present in the schema file yet ? or should i generate the whole schema file ? 08:40 cait1 but there is a qa tool fail 08:39 cait1 homebranch 08:39 cait1 jajm: was looking at course reserves this morning - hope to get back later 08:39 cait1 lds++ still :) 08:39 jajm it's lds but he's not here 08:38 cait1 what's laurent's nick? 08:38 cait1 jajm++ 08:38 cait1 cool thx 08:36 jajm cait1, https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo is up 08:15 cait1 eythian: logical 08:10 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:10 Joubu @later tell khall Hi Kyle, about 15253 - did you see the other comments? indentation and undef@undef? 08:08 eythian (to be fair, porcupine also means spike pig.) 08:05 eythian cait1: tell that to the beak animal. Or the spike pig. 08:04 cait1 eythian: it only shows there is some logic in my language - don't you think? :) 08:03 cait1 ups 07:55 wahanui i think working from home is still recommended 07:55 cait1 working from home... 07:54 eythian cait1: a) I don't see why not, b) why are you at work there's a pandemic going on you know. 07:54 cait1 also, hi back ;) 07:53 cait1 eythian: I am never sure if it's safe to click on your links at work :) 07:51 eythian also, hi 07:51 eythian cait1: https://twitter.com/thisisbionic/status/1253146536508178433 07:18 cait1 hi marcelr :) 07:17 marcelr hi cait1 07:17 cait1 good morning #koha 06:57 alex_a Bonjour 06:35 marcelr hi #koha 06:30 wahanui niihau, reiveune 06:30 reiveune hello 06:12 philor 28 steps just to *not* see the bug, then you have to repeat all 28 to see it :) 06:12 * philor thinks that should make marcelr think twice before saying "with detailed steps" where he will see it 02:57 davidnind (and everyone else as well!) 02:57 davidnind lisettelatah++ 02:56 tuxayo Hooray for all Kohathon contributors! If some are here. 02:53 rangi heh 02:51 tuxayo https://invidio.us/watch?v=ABtfre94Xj0 02:51 tuxayo https://invidio.us/watch?v=fOcvBSewwHc 02:51 tuxayo To celebrate the end of the Kohathon: here is some music from the Japanese artist Koha-pink! 02:50 tuxayo Kohathon in 2021, yay :D 02:42 tuxayo https://liberapay.com/ 02:42 tuxayo I hope at some point Koha US would support also Liberapay it for recurring donations. It's libre/open source and also supports Stripe (in addtion to Paypal) for payments. 02:28 tuxayo hayley++ 02:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24085 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to stable , Double submission of forms on returns.pl 02:25 hayley I found bug 24085 about returns.pl but couldn't see any other obvious ones 02:23 tuxayo yay 02:23 hayley there is a bug report open for that at the moment that I saw tuxayo, possibly already pushed to master 02:22 huginn tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 02:22 tuxayo @later tell oleonard do we have issues due to double submit? At Kohathon a talk showed a customization to block a submit button when clicked once. 02:19 tuxayo Kohathon talk: It's very nice to block the submit buttons when clicked to avoid double submit! 02:13 tuxayo nice! 02:13 tuxayo > I've tried to do one a day 02:07 davidnind (Some are a bit easier than others, the larger ones or ones for areas I don't know anything about can take a bit longer...) 02:06 davidnind I've tried to do one a day, sometimes I get carried away in the weekends! 02:03 tuxayo Testing all those patches isn't that long? (please teach us your secrets!) 02:02 davidnind Not so much the dependable part...:) 02:02 davidnind Not so much, only in the evenings (or mornings) - mainly when I'm procrastinating about working on the documentation.. :-[ 02:01 * tuxayo learns english https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/good_sort 02:01 hayley davidnind++ 02:00 tuxayo For the huge personal time donation 02:00 hayley davidnind is a good sort :) 02:00 tuxayo davidnind++ 02:00 davidnind True! 02:00 tuxayo davidnind: wait you work so much on Koha (so many signoffs!) and your dayjob isn't related to it? :o 01:59 tuxayo > and we don't unfortunately use Koha 01:57 tuxayo Depends on the map ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South-up_map_orientation 01:57 tuxayo > the bottom of the world! 01:56 davidnind None of the above, I work at a government agency (and we don't unfortunately use Koha :-() 01:55 tuxayo davidnind: So, from NZ are you like from Catalyst, Katipo, HLT? 01:55 davidnind Hi from nearly the bottom of the world! 01:52 tuxayo hi from the other side of world o/ 01:51 davidnind Hi tuxayo - I'm from Wellington, New Zealand 01:50 tuxayo *a 01:50 tuxayo Although you seem regular one ^^ 01:50 tuxayo davidnind: Speaking of timezones where are you from? I didn't found you https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 01:48 tuxayo neat! For a GUI as a standalone program there also gworldclock https://screenshots.debian.net/package/gworldclock 01:39 davidnind I use https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/personal.html at the moment 01:38 tuxayo Installed by default on Linuxes and hopefully on macOS also 01:37 tuxayo CET Fri Apr 24 03:37:04 2020 CEST 01:37 tuxayo America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires Thu Apr 23 22:37:04 2020 -03 01:37 tuxayo America/Los_Angeles Thu Apr 23 18:37:04 2020 PDT 01:37 tuxayo NZ Fri Apr 24 13:37:04 2020 NZST 01:37 tuxayo zdump NZ America/Los_Angeles America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires CET 01:36 tuxayo I just found a command that made my day to get the time in multiple places in the world at once. (very useful here!) 01:34 tuxayo *sites 01:34 tuxayo It actually work with +1200 videowebsite, it's insane 01:33 tuxayo Someone did a UI: https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui 01:32 lisettelatah thanks tuxayo! We'll look into that. 01:32 tuxayo Libre open source, should be to install on Linux, macOS and Windows 01:31 tuxayo https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/index.html 01:31 wahanui well, lisettelatah is running the devbox install 01:31 tuxayo > It turns out those videos might be difficult to extract from youtube 01:31 tuxayo lisettelatah 01:22 davidnind great! 01:21 rangi cool 01:21 lisettelatah davidnind: It turns out those videos might be difficult to extract from youtube, so we might do timestamps instead, but either way there should be specific links available by early next week. 01:16 davidnind Good thanks! (In a bubble of one) 01:15 rangi hope you're well in your bubble 01:15 rangi perfect, thanks davidnind 01:14 davidnind rangi: lisettelatah said earlier on that individual videos for Kohathon2020 would be available in a day or so 00:41 philor expand those young minds 00:41 * philor leaves in Curry County cow theft cases, 1939 00:37 philor odds are, the person setting it that way thought "oh, I'll allow any staff member to add things, that way I won't have to remember once a year to add the new winner" 00:36 philor oleonard: yeah, I forget that it's a separate allow changes from field rather than public/private 00:31 oleonard philor: So when you say "public list" you mean it can be added to by anyone 00:31 tuxayo Might no be easy for non-native speakers like me ^^ 00:30 rangi oh thats a cool trick 00:30 tuxayo cc bag 00:29 tuxayo When it's catches up, it will go back to 1.0 00:29 tuxayo You can catch up with the livestream if you are late by some time by setting the playback speed to 1.25 00:29 tuxayo For people watching the kohathon: youtube livestream trick: 00:29 philor currently at the newest of our newberys, the movie Just Mercy and three Aunt Dimity books 00:29 rangi new berrys are not ripe yet? 00:28 philor a public list, so adding to it is the first thing listed for any patron who doesn't have a private list created already 00:28 oleonard We have a Newbery list too. Why is it a bad idea? 00:28 philor I always forget that you can use the checkboxes to place holds, so I think of them as just lists/carts, that I don't want 00:27 philor my system has a public list of Newbery Winners, obviously a bad idea, which does say that add to list gets used (accidentally) 00:27 oleonard I'll share it on the list and see what others think 00:27 rangi :) 00:26 oleonard Great, glad to hear it's not a product of quarantine delirium 00:25 rangi yeah 00:25 tuxayo *nice touch 00:25 tuxayo And the text that says it's to select is a touch. 00:25 tuxayo oleonard: good idea. It's now too much space for something not that much used. 00:24 oleonard Pros: More obvious label, possibly better for screen readers... Con: Not what people expect. 00:24 rangi yeah i like that 00:24 rangi i getcha now 00:24 rangi oh you mean move it 00:22 rangi for adding multiples to a list ? hmm i dunno if it is used much 00:21 rangi hm lemme look 00:21 oleonard I'll share this now that different people are awake. I'm thinking about eliminating the checkbox column in search results: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15876657007590 I can't tell whether it's a dumb idea. 00:21 tuxayo http://schema.koha-community.org/17_11/ 00:21 tuxayo Much less than before though ^^" 00:21 tuxayo > schema is intimidating 00:21 tuxayo talk: 00:20 rangi that reminds i should regenerate the schemas, but not while she is using them :) 00:18 rangi her slide deck is neat 00:16 rangi Margaret is cool 00:13 rangi :) 00:12 tuxayo thanks bag for asking 00:12 tuxayo watch everything: or jump to the next talk if I really don't understand ^^" 00:12 tuxayo my plan was to watch everything and note the timestamp URLs and then send to the Koha list 00:12 tuxayo > we could just timestamp them too 00:12 tuxayo rangi 00:10 rangi (i mean just have a link to the time they start on the programme) 00:10 rangi thta'd be fine 00:09 rangi we could just timestamp them too 00:09 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 00:09 bag @later tell jzairo - are we going to break each session up into individual videos? 00:09 rangi cool 00:09 bag not sure - I know now that each session is recorded 00:07 rangi im assuming they will get cut up into individual videos for easy replay eh? 00:06 oleonard Aw dang I missed the Open Refine talk