Time Nick Message 20:08 huginn amoyano: The operation succeeded. 20:08 amoyano @later tell joubu could you check out bug 25086?, I believe it's related to 23579 were you submitted the patch 19:32 wahanui okay, thd. 19:32 thd I am also helping a couple of old people who are very well secluded. The time spent shopping, etc. for myself and others with distancing queues outside and inside for hours is the big problem sinking time. 19:30 thd I am very safe and keep a safe distance with much cleaning and barriers between myself and the 10 or so people I see each day of in person work. 19:30 cait yes 19:29 caroline health > docs meeting 19:29 caroline take care of yourself thd 19:29 thd I may or may not be able to attend the documentation meeting tomorrow. I am working in person at an essential business three days a week. 19:29 caroline eh, I didn't do much 19:28 cait caroline++ :) 19:28 caroline thanks ashimema[m] 19:28 ashimema[m] thanks for kicking it off cait et al 19:28 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_8_april_2020.2020-04-08-19.06.log.html 19:28 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_8_april_2020.2020-04-08-19.06.txt 19:28 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_8_april_2020.2020-04-08-19.06.html 19:28 huginn Meeting ended Wed Apr 8 19:28:13 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 19:28 ashimema[m] #endmeeting 19:28 ashimema[m] thanks for attending everyone. 19:28 ashimema[m] brill 19:27 ashimema[m] #info Next meeting: 13 May 2020, 20 UTC 19:27 caroline yup 19:27 ashimema[m] 13th May 20:00 UTC sound right to everyone? 19:27 ashimema[m] S00 19:26 ashimema[m] 8utc seems sensible to catch people 19:26 ashimema[m] UK is in Summer time and NZ just went into Winter time 19:25 cait i am always here.. ) 19:25 oleonard Me too 19:25 caroline fine for me 19:25 ashimema[m] sounds reasonable ? 19:24 ashimema[m] 8pm UTC is 9pm UK, 8am NZ, 4pm New York 19:24 caroline we usually do docs meetings around this time so david doesn't have to wake up in the middle of the night 19:23 oleonard Yes, but still nobody from nz! 19:23 caroline no? I thought it was around 9am right now in nz? 19:23 oleonard "good" for NZ :P 19:23 cait 9 pm in europe - not too bad, or most of europe 19:22 cait so may is too soon 19:22 caroline now is good for nz and america, earlier might be better for europe 19:22 cait it's on the kohacon website 19:22 cait yes 19:22 oleonard Regarding KohaCon: "We intend to make a decision to go ahead, or not, in July." 19:21 ashimema[m] thoughts on timing people? 19:21 ashimema[m] so.. 19:21 ashimema[m] It would be good to have some NZ folk in attendance to see if Kohacon20 plans are going ahead 19:21 ashimema[m] Two points I suppose.. we likely want to hold the vote for the next cycle at the next meeting so a good attendance would be good.. 19:20 ashimema[m] #topic Next meeting 19:20 ashimema[m] ok.. 19:20 ashimema[m] Do we have any news/updates regarding Kohacon20? 19:19 ashimema[m] Bit early for NZ? 19:19 ashimema[m] #info Stable releases went out as scheduled later March.. they included security fixes so nows the time to upgrade ;) 19:18 ashimema[m] OK.. no rmaints.. 19:17 ashimema[m] #info The 20.11 cycle is fast approaching, start making plans for what you want to focus on, start working on proposals for your roles :) 19:17 wahanui tallerjoy is curious how many "person hours" are spent in slack searching for gifs to share via the giphy app. 19:17 oleonard tallerjoy? 19:16 wahanui it has been said that rmaints is talljoy, lukeG, hayley 19:16 ashimema[m] rmaints? 19:16 ashimema[m] Just need to keep the momentum now and make sure we have a really nice stable and polished release :) 19:15 ashimema[m] #info 20.05 is shaping up nicely, lots of new features and enhancements, both visible and behind the scenes. 19:15 ashimema[m] #topic Update on releases 19:14 cait not from me 19:14 ashimema[m] any other anouncements? 19:13 cait ype nice one 19:13 caroline great job Jason! 19:13 ashimema[m] #link https://koha-us.org/2020/02/27/kohathon2020/ kohathon2020 19:13 georgew Yes, there are t-Shirts - the logo was designed by Jason Robb at Southeast Kansas Library System 19:13 caroline I like the logo with the koha egg in the "thon"'s O 19:12 ashimema[m] https://kohaus.threadless.com/womens/t-shirt/heavyweight-unisex 19:12 ashimema[m] ooh.. there's t-shirts 19:11 cait true 19:11 ashimema[m] thanks georgew 19:11 ashimema[m] it does indeed fly caroline 19:11 georgew #info koha-US is doing its online Kohathon on April 23 starting at 13:00 UTC 19:11 ashimema[m] :confused: 19:11 caroline can't believe were getting close to may and already thinking of november! time goes by so fast! 19:10 cait +1 19:10 ashimema[m] #info We are into the polishing and bugfixes stage of the cycle now.. please concentrate on bugs and polishing of existing features 19:10 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.11 19:10 cait you should 19:09 cait oh good one! 19:09 ashimema[m] #info The 20.11 roles page is now available, please start adding our names now :) 19:09 cait yep early 19:09 ashimema[m] aha.. thanks cait 19:09 ashimema[m] where are we at.. just introductions 19:09 cait #topic Announcements 19:09 ashimema[m] [off] kids were not going to bed.. grr 19:08 ashimema[m] sorry.. 19:08 * cait hands chair to ashimema[m] ;) 19:08 ashimema[m] #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS_E 19:08 ashimema[m] hi 19:08 cait ok moving on soon, hurry up :) 19:08 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [world virus captial] 19:07 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 19:07 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro 19:07 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 19:07 caroline i don't think so 19:07 cait no :) 19:07 oleonard Do I have to do it again to count?? 19:07 caroline please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes 19:06 caroline lol! 19:06 cait #topic Introductions 19:06 caroline #topic Introductions 19:06 cait too early :) 19:06 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 19:06 huginn Current chairs: Joubu ashimema[m] cait caroline 19:06 cait #chair Joubu ashimema[m] 19:06 huginn Current chairs: cait caroline 19:06 cait #chair caroline 19:06 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_8_april_2020' 19:06 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:06 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 8 19:06:10 2020 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:06 cait #startmeeting General IRC meeting 8 April 2020 19:05 caroline https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_8_April_2020 19:05 caroline ok let me get the agenda 19:05 cait caroline: should we try together? 19:04 caroline I'd chair, but I don't have the brain power today 19:03 caroline he may be busy with his kids rn 19:02 cait ashimema[m]: ping 19:02 wahanui rumour has it ashimema[m] is requestion a new build for the 3 projects, let's see if it fixes the failures :) 19:02 caroline ashimema[m]? 19:00 thd Les chats sont dangereux. 18:59 cait thd: tell that to my family... it's painful 18:58 * caroline is feeling overwhelmed by the amount of work to do for documentation... 18:57 caroline fun fact, in french chat means cat 18:56 * oleonard knows someone whose cousin had a video chat once 18:56 thd Video chat takes too much bandwidth, the connection must certainly fail. 18:50 cait my family is forcing me to video chat - hope i can escape but might be a little late 18:46 caroline as far as I know, yes 18:45 oleonard Meeting in 15? 16:29 ashimema[m] brb 16:29 ashimema[m] the title is generic.. each followup needs to be specific and use the generic method 16:28 ashimema[m] lots of additional followups. 16:28 caroline it does "add a way to", but not for the end user 16:28 ashimema[m] then you need add some logic in each call to EnqueuMessage to catch the various cases of what one woudl want in the reply-to field.. 16:27 ashimema[m] I suppose the title of this bug is correct.. it does the foundations to allow it to be possible.. 16:27 ashimema[m] well.. it sort of is.. but the UI side needs adding via a new bug 16:26 caroline ok thanks! 16:26 * ashimema[m] is getting summoned by kids.. I can try and clarify the title when I get back 16:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10269 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Add a way to define a specific replyto email address for some notice 16:26 caroline also, the request made by the reporter of bug 10269 isn't really addressed...We should change the title of the bug to make it clearer (and maybe create a new one with the initial request) 16:26 ashimema[m] yes.. this is the foundation for that 16:26 ashimema[m] hope that makes sense 16:26 ashimema[m] a patron reports an issue with an item via the item notes.. the email will come 'from' the branch library address and go to the branch reply-to address.. and it will include the patrons email in the 'reply-to' field so if the librarian wants to just hit reply and have it go to the patron.. it will 16:25 caroline but it's just back-end stuff right? 16:24 ashimema[m] bug 22821 is probably the clearest use case 16:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2234 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Make cart email from/reply-to/return-path address configurable 16:24 ashimema[m] and bug 2234 and 3679 could make use of it once they're written 16:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22821 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Use reply-to address for item notes notifications if available to avoid being flagged as spam 16:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to master , Context-sensitive report a problem screen 16:23 ashimema[m] bug 4461 and bug 22821 both then use it 16:23 ashimema[m] what that patch does is add the foundations that were missing to allow this 16:21 ashimema[m] nope caroline 16:21 ashimema[m] hmm 15:35 caroline (asking to see whether to include this in the documentation to-do or not) 15:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10269 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Add a way to define a specific replyto email address for some notice 15:34 caroline does bug 10269 really do what it says in the title? I can't find a way to specify a reply-to email address for a specific notice 15:20 reiveune bye 14:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16547 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Can't place item level hold directly from search results screen 14:12 Joubu last follow-up on bug 16547 14:11 tcohen ? 13:49 Joubu FYI holds are broken, working on it 12:46 Joubu same code doing the same thing, both should be fixed 12:46 Joubu On the other hand it does not make sense to not apply the same fix on the same bug report 12:45 Joubu oleonard: I am not against that, I FQAed it this morning to get an answer 12:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25007 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Failed QA , AmazonCoverImages doesnt check for ISBN in details.tt 12:44 oleonard Joubu, why not just create another version of the Bug 25007 report for the OPAC? 12:39 Joubu oleonard: nevermind, it's not important 12:38 Joubu I cannot recreate on chromium, but can with FF (tested in private window) 12:37 Joubu oleonard: it's not the focus actually. When I hit the adv search page I see the first of the 3 inputs (the one with the focus) that does not have the same size as the others 12:32 oleonard Joubu your issue is with the size? I thought you were talking about the focus style (the border) 12:26 Joubu If I resize the window it gets the good size... hum... 12:26 Joubu I can see the correct input size when I refresh, but after few ms it gets back to the wrong size. That's weird 12:22 Joubu FF 68.4.1esr 12:21 oleonard Joubu: what browser are you using in that screenshot? It works correctly for me in Firefox on OSX 12:20 * oleonard waves 12:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7046: (RM follow-up) Add Filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=78b67d21c5f15bccdc7ae8f180d4f0a266196e9f> 11:46 cait1 commented 11:30 Joubu aroussos: I do not have other idea. I would give -d a try.. 11:30 Joubu aroussos: yes, it's indexed 11:21 martin_renvoize bouncer 11:16 aroussos Joubu: in order for Koha to show how many records each authority is used in, is it a matter of indexing? 11:03 aroussos Joubu: sorry for mistyping your username :) 11:03 aroussos Joubu: when rebuilding 11:03 aroussos Joubou: I wonder if that change makes the -d flag necessary 11:03 aroussos Joubou: I should mention that everything worked fine before, the only Zebra-related change that was made recently was an increase of the register index size 11:02 aroussos Joubou: the permissions look OK, the files (and the directories the files are in) are owned by the Koha instance user 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7046: Implemented subscription renewal dropdown sub length element <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d132c10bfcff87b117ff454bb431fdbd1f08c92c> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24826: Remove warnings from Sendmail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e925568a3067e77173f4d21f476b28f8aa068571> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24840: Replace DateTime->now with dt_from_string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ac037f817def256c85706413036bee3f78ed40e> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22937: Add hint to groups editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=947b16b322b9fe719a1bef6c25d4172db3d7cc8e> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25019: Make the ViewPolicy filter initialization standard <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df58c3e2c9af7b0218f6db957dbb781f0cb1f278> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25046: Include borrowers.othernames in SELECT statement <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77457a496a43d9d3bd0330d2ed511b0d1388d8b0> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25041: Restore #ASKED anchor in suggestions table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f2db163bd108e165b2e54a7258ec1176c213285> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24940: Serials statistics wizard: order vendor list alphabetically <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9789a43025d139d4d0b872fa0b51c0dc1df0d7dc> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25081: Fix creation of new item for a received issue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb527d54f598f91e4373282032fbc1ab9b0515d3> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7046: Preselect dropdown option and prefill input <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c88c8e5322d1205ca4e39409b34f8d02311182ad> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25046: Add test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3e15a720578b2f03ffea818bac4df585741b1a1> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24840: (follow-up) Catch some further cases of DateTime->now <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94ec55d767cd9a61368757154e36e6e0d5bcafcf> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25081: Fix wrong comment <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c878a9e825ab740c2d1bc820875485cc816ed492> 10:56 ashimema[m] . . . 10:48 Joubu I'm waiting for you PR ;) 10:47 Joubu nope 10:46 kidclamp Joubu - do we have a qa test to catch new DateTime->now? 10:43 aroussos Joubu: will check now 10:42 wahanui the permissions are set on a per-user basis, not per-category 10:42 Joubu the permissions 10:42 Joubu so you should double check the zebra index files 10:40 aroussos Joubu: yes, the reindex was run as root 10:39 Joubu -d will delete the previous index 10:38 aroussos Joubu: also, a full reindex of just the biblios is currently underway 10:38 aroussos Joubu: tried a full reindex of just the authorities, but not with -d... what does -d do? 10:34 Joubu did you run the reindex using the root user? (you may have messed with the permissions) 10:34 Joubu restart zebra? 10:34 Joubu aroussos: did you try a full reindex (with -d)? 10:34 aroussos also, when I try to connect to the biblioserver locally using `yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties unix:/var/run/koha/instance/bibliosocket` I get "Database unavailable" after I perform a search 10:30 aroussos 13:27:48-08/04 zebrasrv(894) [warn] Cannot obtain EXPLAIN information 10:30 aroussos 13:27:48-08/04 zebrasrv(894) [fatal] Node node_zebra missing 10:29 aroussos in zebra-output.log there are lots of entries like: 10:25 aroussos searches work fine, but in the authorities module there is no information regarding how many records each authority is used in 10:24 aroussos I'm trying to diagnose a problem with a Koha instance's Zebra server 10:23 aroussos hello All 10:11 ashimema[m] 24380 10:10 kidclamp all of them! 10:09 cait1 ? 10:09 cait1 which oneß 10:06 ashimema[m] else I'll forget 10:06 ashimema[m] could you comment on the bug pretty please cait1? 10:04 * cait1 waves 10:04 kidclamp Hi Joubu and Ashimema 10:03 ashimema[m] hi kidclamp 10:03 Joubu Hi kidclamp 10:03 Joubu *[m] exploded 10:02 * kidclamp waves 09:33 Joubu correctly* 09:32 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:32 Joubu @later tell oleonard inputs with focus are not styled correct it seems: https://snipboard.io/EGrta3.jpg 08:51 cait1 and possibly for people using staticfines.pl? not sure 08:51 cait1 because it would create wrong fines for us 08:51 cait1 ah yes 08:09 ashimema so.. I'm thinking this needs a further syspref to govern the bahaviour 08:08 ashimema cait1: I have vague recollections of you wanting CalcaulateFinesOnReturn to always be obeyed 08:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24380 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Backdated returns do not update fines unless CalculateFinesOnReturn is enabled 08:07 ashimema bug 24380 08:07 * ashimema is working through the NSO queue 08:07 ashimema cait1 around still? 07:38 ashimema hehe 07:38 cait1 I just have to turn my head... ask me 07:37 ashimema bedroom is just accross the hall from my home office.. it's always a temptation 07:37 ashimema haha 07:28 eythian The couch may also be an enemy. 07:28 eythian it's also dangerously just downstairs :) 07:27 ashimema hehe,.. know the feeling well 07:27 eythian hiya ashimema. Not bad. Could handle still being in bed I think, but y'know :) 07:26 ashimema how are you this morning eythian 07:23 eythian hi 07:17 ashimema hmm 07:16 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24801: (follow-up) Display all the libraries - Selenium fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bad8c7089addceca18aacae14d9b7ed30a4722aa> 07:14 ashimema is git bz failing for anyone else this morning? 07:14 ashimema hmm 07:13 philor and I think I will file it, tomorrow when I'm closer to awake, because I suspect that means that if in the future we fail to update C4/Heading/MARC21.pm, and then someone creates or imports authorities using a subfield Koha hasn't heard of, merging them would merge them to a different authority without the Koha-unknown subfield 07:10 huginn Bug 21826: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, RESOLVED FIXED, Automatic authority record generation improvements 07:10 philor https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21826 is the probable cause of my weird authority merge 07:10 * philor crawls up out of several rabbit holes 07:03 wahanui bidet, alex_a 07:03 alex_a Bonjour 06:55 cait time to switch into work mode, bbiab 06:55 cait especially if not scared to look at some of the bigger stuff 06:54 cait even a little bit of time helps 06:54 kohaputti hehe, left the stage now free for other's submissions :) 06:53 cait competition? ;) 06:53 kohaputti oops, promoted myself to QA manager :D 06:49 Joubu sure kohaputti! 06:48 kohaputti so I will go ahead adding my name on the list of proposed QA team 06:47 kohaputti Hi, I could still continue on the QA role for 20.11 but my time spent on it is not again exactly much 06:40 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 06:40 reiveune hello 04:16 philor and yeah, it's like having CatalogModuleRelink on only for that one single case, but in general, we don't have it on 04:12 philor no worries 04:12 philor and, curiously, if I have the authorities "$aA" "$aA,$enarrator" and "$aB,$enarrator" and merge the third to the second, I actually get it merge to the second rather than the first 04:12 tcohen It is really too late here sorry 04:11 tcohen CatalogModuleRelink? 04:00 philor and does it instantly, even though authid 1 is over the merge limit, so it isn't actually deciding that it should merge 3 to 1 and 2 to 1, which would schedule the merges delayed 03:56 philor but what it does is act like it has been told to relink the bibs, making its own choice about what authid to use 03:56 philor I'd expect it to either take the $aA,$enarrator from 2 and stick it in the bib record formerly attached to 3 and change the $9 to 2, or at most to say "wait, personal name authorities aren't supposed to have a $e, I'll drop that" and insert just the $a, leave the existing $e, and replace the 3 with a 2 03:48 philor yeah, I'm in loose mode, but that doesn't explain "I merge authid 3 to authid 2, and the result is that my bibs are linked to authid 1" 03:47 tcohen but also AuthorityMergeLimit, which postpones the merge until a cronjob is triggered, if a defined limit on the amount of involved records is reached 03:46 tcohen (the one that controls the behaviour) 03:46 tcohen AuthorityMergeMode is the syspref you are looking for 03:45 tcohen s 03:45 tcohen search for 'merge' on the system preference 03:45 philor and now I can't find any sign of the bug that caused linking bibs to authorities to correctly ignore subfield e, so I can't tell whether it's intentionally doing the right thing, or accidentally and thus might do something else wrong 03:43 philor I'm not sure what it's about, since I'd be tempted to use "Koha surprised me when it did the right thing" as a bug summary 02:31 tcohen ah, this is about it fetching all the authority subfields 02:27 philor tcohen: I think it must be intentionally being smart, and just being surprising when it does so: the bib records end up correct, still both saying "A, narrator" but with the authority id for the plain "A", which is what would happen with a newly linked bib 02:21 tcohen is it not deleting the link because of the $e? 02:21 tcohen file a bug! 02:21 tcohen philor oh noes! 02:04 philor now you have an authority for "A" used in 62 bibs, and one narrator authority used in 0 bibs, and a startled expression on your face 02:04 philor you merge one narrator authority to the other narrator authority 02:03 philor You have an authority for the name "A" used in 60 bibs, and then before creating authorites with relators was fixed, you get two autocreated authorities for "A,‡enarrator" each used in 1 bib