Time Nick Message 02:03 philor You have an authority for the name "A" used in 60 bibs, and then before creating authorites with relators was fixed, you get two autocreated authorities for "A,‡enarrator" each used in 1 bib 02:04 philor you merge one narrator authority to the other narrator authority 02:04 philor now you have an authority for "A" used in 62 bibs, and one narrator authority used in 0 bibs, and a startled expression on your face 02:21 tcohen philor oh noes! 02:21 tcohen file a bug! 02:21 tcohen is it not deleting the link because of the $e? 02:27 philor tcohen: I think it must be intentionally being smart, and just being surprising when it does so: the bib records end up correct, still both saying "A, narrator" but with the authority id for the plain "A", which is what would happen with a newly linked bib 02:31 tcohen ah, this is about it fetching all the authority subfields 03:43 philor I'm not sure what it's about, since I'd be tempted to use "Koha surprised me when it did the right thing" as a bug summary 03:45 philor and now I can't find any sign of the bug that caused linking bibs to authorities to correctly ignore subfield e, so I can't tell whether it's intentionally doing the right thing, or accidentally and thus might do something else wrong 03:45 tcohen search for 'merge' on the system preference 03:45 tcohen s 03:46 tcohen AuthorityMergeMode is the syspref you are looking for 03:46 tcohen (the one that controls the behaviour) 03:47 tcohen but also AuthorityMergeLimit, which postpones the merge until a cronjob is triggered, if a defined limit on the amount of involved records is reached 03:48 philor yeah, I'm in loose mode, but that doesn't explain "I merge authid 3 to authid 2, and the result is that my bibs are linked to authid 1" 03:56 philor I'd expect it to either take the $aA,$enarrator from 2 and stick it in the bib record formerly attached to 3 and change the $9 to 2, or at most to say "wait, personal name authorities aren't supposed to have a $e, I'll drop that" and insert just the $a, leave the existing $e, and replace the 3 with a 2 03:56 philor but what it does is act like it has been told to relink the bibs, making its own choice about what authid to use 04:00 philor and does it instantly, even though authid 1 is over the merge limit, so it isn't actually deciding that it should merge 3 to 1 and 2 to 1, which would schedule the merges delayed 04:11 tcohen CatalogModuleRelink? 04:12 tcohen It is really too late here sorry 04:12 philor and, curiously, if I have the authorities "$aA" "$aA,$enarrator" and "$aB,$enarrator" and merge the third to the second, I actually get it merge to the second rather than the first 04:12 philor no worries 04:16 philor and yeah, it's like having CatalogModuleRelink on only for that one single case, but in general, we don't have it on 06:40 reiveune hello 06:40 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 06:47 kohaputti Hi, I could still continue on the QA role for 20.11 but my time spent on it is not again exactly much 06:48 kohaputti so I will go ahead adding my name on the list of proposed QA team 06:49 Joubu sure kohaputti! 06:53 kohaputti oops, promoted myself to QA manager :D 06:53 cait competition? ;) 06:54 kohaputti hehe, left the stage now free for other's submissions :) 06:54 cait even a little bit of time helps 06:55 cait especially if not scared to look at some of the bigger stuff 06:55 cait time to switch into work mode, bbiab 07:03 alex_a Bonjour 07:03 wahanui bidet, alex_a 07:10 * philor crawls up out of several rabbit holes 07:10 philor https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21826 is the probable cause of my weird authority merge 07:10 huginn Bug 21826: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, RESOLVED FIXED, Automatic authority record generation improvements 07:13 philor and I think I will file it, tomorrow when I'm closer to awake, because I suspect that means that if in the future we fail to update C4/Heading/MARC21.pm, and then someone creates or imports authorities using a subfield Koha hasn't heard of, merging them would merge them to a different authority without the Koha-unknown subfield 07:14 ashimema hmm 07:14 ashimema is git bz failing for anyone else this morning? 07:16 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24801: (follow-up) Display all the libraries - Selenium fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bad8c7089addceca18aacae14d9b7ed30a4722aa> 07:17 ashimema hmm 07:23 eythian hi 07:26 ashimema how are you this morning eythian 07:27 eythian hiya ashimema. Not bad. Could handle still being in bed I think, but y'know :) 07:27 ashimema hehe,.. know the feeling well 07:28 eythian it's also dangerously just downstairs :) 07:28 eythian The couch may also be an enemy. 07:37 ashimema haha 07:37 ashimema bedroom is just accross the hall from my home office.. it's always a temptation 07:38 cait1 I just have to turn my head... ask me 07:38 ashimema hehe 08:07 ashimema cait1 around still? 08:07 * ashimema is working through the NSO queue 08:07 ashimema bug 24380 08:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24380 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Backdated returns do not update fines unless CalculateFinesOnReturn is enabled 08:08 ashimema cait1: I have vague recollections of you wanting CalcaulateFinesOnReturn to always be obeyed 08:09 ashimema so.. I'm thinking this needs a further syspref to govern the bahaviour 08:51 cait1 ah yes 08:51 cait1 because it would create wrong fines for us 08:51 cait1 and possibly for people using staticfines.pl? not sure 09:32 Joubu @later tell oleonard inputs with focus are not styled correct it seems: https://snipboard.io/EGrta3.jpg 09:32 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:33 Joubu correctly* 10:02 * kidclamp waves 10:03 Joubu *[m] exploded 10:03 Joubu Hi kidclamp 10:03 ashimema[m] hi kidclamp 10:04 kidclamp Hi Joubu and Ashimema 10:04 * cait1 waves 10:06 ashimema[m] could you comment on the bug pretty please cait1? 10:06 ashimema[m] else I'll forget 10:09 cait1 which oneß 10:09 cait1 ? 10:10 kidclamp all of them! 10:11 ashimema[m] 24380 10:23 aroussos hello All 10:24 aroussos I'm trying to diagnose a problem with a Koha instance's Zebra server 10:25 aroussos searches work fine, but in the authorities module there is no information regarding how many records each authority is used in 10:29 aroussos in zebra-output.log there are lots of entries like: 10:30 aroussos 13:27:48-08/04 zebrasrv(894) [fatal] Node node_zebra missing 10:30 aroussos 13:27:48-08/04 zebrasrv(894) [warn] Cannot obtain EXPLAIN information 10:34 aroussos also, when I try to connect to the biblioserver locally using `yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties unix:/var/run/koha/instance/bibliosocket` I get "Database unavailable" after I perform a search 10:34 Joubu aroussos: did you try a full reindex (with -d)? 10:34 Joubu restart zebra? 10:34 Joubu did you run the reindex using the root user? (you may have messed with the permissions) 10:38 aroussos Joubu: tried a full reindex of just the authorities, but not with -d... what does -d do? 10:38 aroussos Joubu: also, a full reindex of just the biblios is currently underway 10:39 Joubu -d will delete the previous index 10:40 aroussos Joubu: yes, the reindex was run as root 10:42 Joubu so you should double check the zebra index files 10:42 Joubu the permissions 10:42 wahanui the permissions are set on a per-user basis, not per-category 10:43 aroussos Joubu: will check now 10:46 kidclamp Joubu - do we have a qa test to catch new DateTime->now? 10:47 Joubu nope 10:48 Joubu I'm waiting for you PR ;) 10:56 ashimema[m] . . . 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25081: Fix wrong comment <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c878a9e825ab740c2d1bc820875485cc816ed492> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24840: (follow-up) Catch some further cases of DateTime->now <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94ec55d767cd9a61368757154e36e6e0d5bcafcf> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25046: Add test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3e15a720578b2f03ffea818bac4df585741b1a1> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7046: Preselect dropdown option and prefill input <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c88c8e5322d1205ca4e39409b34f8d02311182ad> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25081: Fix creation of new item for a received issue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb527d54f598f91e4373282032fbc1ab9b0515d3> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24940: Serials statistics wizard: order vendor list alphabetically <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9789a43025d139d4d0b872fa0b51c0dc1df0d7dc> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25041: Restore #ASKED anchor in suggestions table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f2db163bd108e165b2e54a7258ec1176c213285> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25046: Include borrowers.othernames in SELECT statement <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77457a496a43d9d3bd0330d2ed511b0d1388d8b0> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25019: Make the ViewPolicy filter initialization standard <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df58c3e2c9af7b0218f6db957dbb781f0cb1f278> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22937: Add hint to groups editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=947b16b322b9fe719a1bef6c25d4172db3d7cc8e> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24840: Replace DateTime->now with dt_from_string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ac037f817def256c85706413036bee3f78ed40e> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24826: Remove warnings from Sendmail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e925568a3067e77173f4d21f476b28f8aa068571> 10:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7046: Implemented subscription renewal dropdown sub length element <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d132c10bfcff87b117ff454bb431fdbd1f08c92c> 11:02 aroussos Joubou: the permissions look OK, the files (and the directories the files are in) are owned by the Koha instance user 11:03 aroussos Joubou: I should mention that everything worked fine before, the only Zebra-related change that was made recently was an increase of the register index size 11:03 aroussos Joubou: I wonder if that change makes the -d flag necessary 11:03 aroussos Joubu: when rebuilding 11:03 aroussos Joubu: sorry for mistyping your username :) 11:16 aroussos Joubu: in order for Koha to show how many records each authority is used in, is it a matter of indexing? 11:21 martin_renvoize bouncer 11:30 Joubu aroussos: yes, it's indexed 11:30 Joubu aroussos: I do not have other idea. I would give -d a try.. 11:46 cait1 commented 12:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7046: (RM follow-up) Add Filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=78b67d21c5f15bccdc7ae8f180d4f0a266196e9f> 12:20 * oleonard waves 12:21 oleonard Joubu: what browser are you using in that screenshot? It works correctly for me in Firefox on OSX 12:22 Joubu FF 68.4.1esr 12:26 Joubu I can see the correct input size when I refresh, but after few ms it gets back to the wrong size. That's weird 12:26 Joubu If I resize the window it gets the good size... hum... 12:32 oleonard Joubu your issue is with the size? I thought you were talking about the focus style (the border) 12:37 Joubu oleonard: it's not the focus actually. When I hit the adv search page I see the first of the 3 inputs (the one with the focus) that does not have the same size as the others 12:38 Joubu I cannot recreate on chromium, but can with FF (tested in private window) 12:39 Joubu oleonard: nevermind, it's not important 12:44 oleonard Joubu, why not just create another version of the Bug 25007 report for the OPAC? 12:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25007 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Failed QA , AmazonCoverImages doesnt check for ISBN in details.tt 12:45 Joubu oleonard: I am not against that, I FQAed it this morning to get an answer 12:46 Joubu On the other hand it does not make sense to not apply the same fix on the same bug report 12:46 Joubu same code doing the same thing, both should be fixed 13:49 Joubu FYI holds are broken, working on it 14:11 tcohen ? 14:12 Joubu last follow-up on bug 16547 14:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16547 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Can't place item level hold directly from search results screen 15:20 reiveune bye 15:34 caroline does bug 10269 really do what it says in the title? I can't find a way to specify a reply-to email address for a specific notice 15:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10269 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Add a way to define a specific replyto email address for some notice 15:35 caroline (asking to see whether to include this in the documentation to-do or not) 16:21 ashimema[m] hmm 16:21 ashimema[m] nope caroline 16:23 ashimema[m] what that patch does is add the foundations that were missing to allow this 16:23 ashimema[m] bug 4461 and bug 22821 both then use it 16:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to master , Context-sensitive report a problem screen 16:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22821 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Use reply-to address for item notes notifications if available to avoid being flagged as spam 16:24 ashimema[m] and bug 2234 and 3679 could make use of it once they're written 16:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2234 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Make cart email from/reply-to/return-path address configurable 16:24 ashimema[m] bug 22821 is probably the clearest use case 16:25 caroline but it's just back-end stuff right? 16:26 ashimema[m] a patron reports an issue with an item via the item notes.. the email will come 'from' the branch library address and go to the branch reply-to address.. and it will include the patrons email in the 'reply-to' field so if the librarian wants to just hit reply and have it go to the patron.. it will 16:26 ashimema[m] hope that makes sense 16:26 ashimema[m] yes.. this is the foundation for that 16:26 caroline also, the request made by the reporter of bug 10269 isn't really addressed...We should change the title of the bug to make it clearer (and maybe create a new one with the initial request) 16:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10269 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Add a way to define a specific replyto email address for some notice 16:26 * ashimema[m] is getting summoned by kids.. I can try and clarify the title when I get back 16:26 caroline ok thanks! 16:27 ashimema[m] well.. it sort of is.. but the UI side needs adding via a new bug 16:27 ashimema[m] I suppose the title of this bug is correct.. it does the foundations to allow it to be possible.. 16:28 ashimema[m] then you need add some logic in each call to EnqueuMessage to catch the various cases of what one woudl want in the reply-to field.. 16:28 caroline it does "add a way to", but not for the end user 16:28 ashimema[m] lots of additional followups. 16:29 ashimema[m] the title is generic.. each followup needs to be specific and use the generic method 16:29 ashimema[m] brb 18:45 oleonard Meeting in 15? 18:46 caroline as far as I know, yes 18:50 cait my family is forcing me to video chat - hope i can escape but might be a little late 18:56 thd Video chat takes too much bandwidth, the connection must certainly fail. 18:56 * oleonard knows someone whose cousin had a video chat once 18:57 caroline fun fact, in french chat means cat 18:58 * caroline is feeling overwhelmed by the amount of work to do for documentation... 18:59 cait thd: tell that to my family... it's painful 19:00 thd Les chats sont dangereux. 19:02 caroline ashimema[m]? 19:02 wahanui rumour has it ashimema[m] is requestion a new build for the 3 projects, let's see if it fixes the failures :) 19:02 cait ashimema[m]: ping 19:03 caroline he may be busy with his kids rn 19:04 caroline I'd chair, but I don't have the brain power today 19:05 cait caroline: should we try together? 19:05 caroline ok let me get the agenda 19:05 caroline https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_8_April_2020 19:06 cait #startmeeting General IRC meeting 8 April 2020 19:06 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 8 19:06:10 2020 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:06 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:06 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_8_april_2020' 19:06 cait #chair caroline 19:06 huginn Current chairs: cait caroline 19:06 cait #chair Joubu ashimema[m] 19:06 huginn Current chairs: Joubu ashimema[m] cait caroline 19:06 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 19:06 cait too early :) 19:06 caroline #topic Introductions 19:06 cait #topic Introductions 19:06 caroline lol! 19:07 caroline please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes 19:07 oleonard Do I have to do it again to count?? 19:07 cait no :) 19:07 caroline i don't think so 19:07 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 19:07 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro 19:07 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 19:08 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [world virus captial] 19:08 cait ok moving on soon, hurry up :) 19:08 ashimema[m] hi 19:08 ashimema[m] #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS_E 19:08 * cait hands chair to ashimema[m] ;) 19:08 ashimema[m] sorry.. 19:09 ashimema[m] [off] kids were not going to bed.. grr 19:09 cait #topic Announcements 19:09 ashimema[m] where are we at.. just introductions 19:09 ashimema[m] aha.. thanks cait 19:09 cait yep early 19:09 ashimema[m] #info The 20.11 roles page is now available, please start adding our names now :) 19:09 cait oh good one! 19:10 cait you should 19:10 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.11 19:10 ashimema[m] #info We are into the polishing and bugfixes stage of the cycle now.. please concentrate on bugs and polishing of existing features 19:10 cait +1 19:11 caroline can't believe were getting close to may and already thinking of november! time goes by so fast! 19:11 ashimema[m] :confused: 19:11 georgew #info koha-US is doing its online Kohathon on April 23 starting at 13:00 UTC 19:11 ashimema[m] it does indeed fly caroline 19:11 ashimema[m] thanks georgew 19:11 cait true 19:12 ashimema[m] ooh.. there's t-shirts 19:12 ashimema[m] https://kohaus.threadless.com/womens/t-shirt/heavyweight-unisex 19:13 caroline I like the logo with the koha egg in the "thon"'s O 19:13 georgew Yes, there are t-Shirts - the logo was designed by Jason Robb at Southeast Kansas Library System 19:13 ashimema[m] #link https://koha-us.org/2020/02/27/kohathon2020/ kohathon2020 19:13 caroline great job Jason! 19:13 cait ype nice one 19:14 ashimema[m] any other anouncements? 19:14 cait not from me 19:15 ashimema[m] #topic Update on releases 19:15 ashimema[m] #info 20.05 is shaping up nicely, lots of new features and enhancements, both visible and behind the scenes. 19:16 ashimema[m] Just need to keep the momentum now and make sure we have a really nice stable and polished release :) 19:16 ashimema[m] rmaints? 19:16 wahanui it has been said that rmaints is talljoy, lukeG, hayley 19:17 oleonard tallerjoy? 19:17 wahanui tallerjoy is curious how many "person hours" are spent in slack searching for gifs to share via the giphy app. 19:17 ashimema[m] #info The 20.11 cycle is fast approaching, start making plans for what you want to focus on, start working on proposals for your roles :) 19:18 ashimema[m] OK.. no rmaints.. 19:19 ashimema[m] #info Stable releases went out as scheduled later March.. they included security fixes so nows the time to upgrade ;) 19:19 ashimema[m] Bit early for NZ? 19:20 ashimema[m] Do we have any news/updates regarding Kohacon20? 19:20 ashimema[m] ok.. 19:20 ashimema[m] #topic Next meeting 19:21 ashimema[m] Two points I suppose.. we likely want to hold the vote for the next cycle at the next meeting so a good attendance would be good.. 19:21 ashimema[m] It would be good to have some NZ folk in attendance to see if Kohacon20 plans are going ahead 19:21 ashimema[m] so.. 19:21 ashimema[m] thoughts on timing people? 19:22 oleonard Regarding KohaCon: "We intend to make a decision to go ahead, or not, in July." 19:22 cait yes 19:22 cait it's on the kohacon website 19:22 caroline now is good for nz and america, earlier might be better for europe 19:22 cait so may is too soon 19:23 cait 9 pm in europe - not too bad, or most of europe 19:23 oleonard "good" for NZ :P 19:23 caroline no? I thought it was around 9am right now in nz? 19:23 oleonard Yes, but still nobody from nz! 19:24 caroline we usually do docs meetings around this time so david doesn't have to wake up in the middle of the night 19:24 ashimema[m] 8pm UTC is 9pm UK, 8am NZ, 4pm New York 19:25 ashimema[m] sounds reasonable ? 19:25 caroline fine for me 19:25 oleonard Me too 19:25 cait i am always here.. ) 19:26 ashimema[m] UK is in Summer time and NZ just went into Winter time 19:26 ashimema[m] 8utc seems sensible to catch people 19:27 ashimema[m] S00 19:27 ashimema[m] 13th May 20:00 UTC sound right to everyone? 19:27 caroline yup 19:27 ashimema[m] #info Next meeting: 13 May 2020, 20 UTC 19:28 ashimema[m] brill 19:28 ashimema[m] thanks for attending everyone. 19:28 ashimema[m] #endmeeting 19:28 huginn Meeting ended Wed Apr 8 19:28:13 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 19:28 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_8_april_2020.2020-04-08-19.06.html 19:28 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_8_april_2020.2020-04-08-19.06.txt 19:28 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_8_april_2020.2020-04-08-19.06.log.html 19:28 ashimema[m] thanks for kicking it off cait et al 19:28 caroline thanks ashimema[m] 19:28 cait caroline++ :) 19:29 caroline eh, I didn't do much 19:29 thd I may or may not be able to attend the documentation meeting tomorrow. I am working in person at an essential business three days a week. 19:29 caroline take care of yourself thd 19:29 caroline health > docs meeting 19:30 cait yes 19:30 thd I am very safe and keep a safe distance with much cleaning and barriers between myself and the 10 or so people I see each day of in person work. 19:32 thd I am also helping a couple of old people who are very well secluded. The time spent shopping, etc. for myself and others with distancing queues outside and inside for hours is the big problem sinking time. 19:32 wahanui okay, thd. 20:08 amoyano @later tell joubu could you check out bug 25086?, I believe it's related to 23579 were you submitted the patch 20:08 huginn amoyano: The operation succeeded.