Time Nick Message 07:00 magnuse \o/ 07:00 magnuse bonjour le hackfest virtuel! 07:02 Nemo_bis :) 07:12 cait hello hackfesters 07:12 cait :) 07:24 magnuse homeschooling for me today, so not a lot of action from me, at least not at the beginning of the day 07:25 cait magnuse: you got all week :) 07:45 reiveune hello 07:45 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 07:55 Stefan Hi. I'm pretty new to koha. we have not yet implemented koha in our library, but are planning on doing it soon. 07:55 cait2 hi Stefan - welcome :) 07:56 cait2 where are you from? 07:56 Stefan I have a hard time getting all information I want from bug reports in bugzilla. for instance this Bug 13622. it says closed fixed, but how can I see in which version of koha and where can I find documentation how to use the functionality explained in the repot 07:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13622 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Add option to display datetimes as dates in notices 07:57 Stefan (I'm from sweden) 07:57 cait2 ah! Germany ;) 07:57 cait2 IRC regulars? 07:57 wahanui hmmm... IRC regulars is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 07:59 Stefan wahanui should I update IRC regulars with info about myself? 07:59 wahanui wish i knew, stefan 07:59 magnuse Stefan: if you plan to become a regular ;-) 07:59 sophie_m hi #koha 07:59 magnuse wahanui is a bot, sometimes useful, sometimes annoying 08:00 Stefan we'll see what the future brings then. 08:00 ashimema Morning 08:02 magnuse Stefan: the last comments will say what versions a patch is in. the test plan should give an idea about what it does 08:02 alex_a Bonjour 08:02 wahanui niihau, alex_a 08:02 Stefan @magnuse the last comment is "Patches pushed to master. Thanks Jonathan and Marcel!" 08:02 huginn Stefan: I suck 08:04 cait2 Stefan: was also meant as a help to look up people 08:04 rocket_bridge [rocketchat] <ashimema> Ohh.. it works 08:04 cait2 i think (there can be more Stefans) we might have met 08:04 magnuse Stefan: is that an old bug? i think RMs have gotten increasingly better at being informative ;-) 08:05 Stefan magnuse looking at the testplan was a great tip. thanks 08:05 ashimema we have? 08:06 magnuse rocket++ 08:08 magnuse Stefan: 13622 was pushed to master on 2015-09-16 so you can be sure it is in any recent version 08:08 Stefan @magnuse thanks 08:08 huginn Stefan: downloading the Perl source 08:09 rocket_bridge [rocketchat] <ashimema> Good morning 08:09 magnuse Stefan: you can drop the @ :) 08:09 magnuse ashimema: hiya 08:10 * ashimema finally got around to playing with matterbridge and rocket.. 08:10 ashimema just need to poke rangi with the IP 08:10 Stefan sorry. but why does your name has a @ and nobody elses? 08:10 ashimema and tweak some config a bit 08:12 cait2 Stefan: display might depend on the client you use - where do you see the @? 08:12 magnuse Stefan: i guess i'm kind of an admin in here (can't remember the proper name), maybe your client highlights that with a @? 08:13 Stefan oh, I see 08:15 cait2 does someone know what the 'eye' is called that you click to see the password you typed in? 08:16 cait2 trying to write up a bug report for a library and not sure how to phrase that 08:18 magnuse no idea, sorry 08:18 cait2 i have settled on: 08:18 cait2 Bug 24949 - Show password in staff login screen on user's demand 08:18 cait2 for now 08:21 magnuse how hard would it be to implement 2FA with a one time pincode/password sent out via email/sms? just a thought... 08:23 ashimema grr 08:23 ashimema DM's don't work in matterbridge 08:24 cait2 write it up for later 08:24 cait2 comparing 08:25 cait2 so... who is here for the hackfest? 08:25 ashimema 2FA isn't too bad to impliment.. but Auth.pm is painful to work within.. 08:26 ashimema it's the koha end that stopped me in my tracks over xmas when I tried magnuse 08:27 ashimema cait and cait2 08:27 ashimema how lucky are we 08:30 cait2 2 laptops, stuck on work things a bit before hard core hackfesting 08:33 ashimema did you have any more luck than I'm having with rocket.chat and irc magnuse? 08:34 lilipute1h_asu I didn't got why is there all this fuzz about RocketChat, I mean, IRC is great isn't it? why move? 08:36 ashimema I know allot of people who would dissagree that 'IRC' is great ;) 08:37 cait2 IRC is just a protocol... dpeends on the client, doesn't it? 08:38 cait2 we also use xmpp, i have both in the same client, not really much difference 08:39 ashimema I find IRC is a barrier to entry for allot of our customers. 08:39 ashimema also.. if IRC is so great how come so many big companies have migrated to slack ;) 08:39 ashimema anywho. 08:39 ashimema I think I'm going to park this again 08:40 Nemo_bis I have some thoughts on that but it would be a long tangent https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Slack 08:40 ashimema a bridge isn't going to give us a better experience in my opinion in my findings to far 08:40 magnuse in sweden they have a slack channel for koha which is very active with all sorts of people, it looks like the barrier to entry is lower than with irc 08:40 cait2 because of hype? It's not free 08:41 cait2 i think the missing bit is a well working web client 08:41 cait2 that's the barrier at the moment more than the protocol 08:41 ashimema agreed 08:41 ashimema it's not the protocol that's an issue.. 08:42 ashimema though I do think that could be enhanced too 08:42 ashimema but the number of different clients and fragmentation in the ecosystem really is. 08:42 ashimema for me.. persistence in chat is a massive shortfall in irc 08:42 cait2 I myself never got an invite to any Slack thing - so can't really compare much 08:43 ashimema you have to host a server yourself to get that 08:43 ashimema or pay for irccloud 08:43 cait2 hmm 08:43 cait2 we do have this logged.. and i kinda like that i can log off without people keeping talking to me :) 08:43 cait2 but it certainly depends 08:43 ashimema we don't log PM's 08:44 ashimema and shouldn't/can't 08:44 ashimema but I do a fair chunk of communication in PM's and want that history 08:45 jajm you can tell your irc client to log pm 08:45 cait2 hm i can store that locally, but have stopped doing it 08:45 ashimema I do 08:45 lilipute1h_asu ashimema: also I thought #koha was logged somewhere? 08:46 lilipute1h_asu so, history is not an issue I guess? 08:46 ashimema #koha is logged 08:47 ashimema you guys are only strengthening my arguament here ;) 08:47 ashimema yup.. #koha is logged.. but you have to know that it is and find those logs somewhere.. 08:48 ashimema yes.. you can log things yourself.. but you have to leave a client running to get full logs and you have to find yourself a client that supports it.. 08:48 ashimema those are barriers to new users.. 08:48 ashimema magnuse put it well.. 08:48 ashimema sweden has a strong slack group with lots of interactions.. because slack is easy ;) 08:48 ashimema irc is not 08:48 ashimema if you have access to slack.. join the FOLIO group.. see how active that is ;) 08:49 ashimema I don't want to go slack btw.. 08:49 cait2 yeah... if you have access to slack 08:49 cait2 i am still not sure how that works 08:49 ashimema just wanted to try and move us to a more modern open chat 08:50 cait2 and sweden also has a strong user group that can host/organize things 08:50 cait2 and it's good to experiment 08:50 cait2 my only point is it shoudl really be open to everyone 08:51 cait2 i don't care about the technology really :) 08:51 lilipute1h_asu cait2: agree... irc is much more frugal, might even run on less than 56k. useful in case of zombie's attack :) 08:52 lilipute1h_asu (no one use 56k anymore theses days, argument is foolish...) 08:53 lilipute1h_asu anyone knows a nice cli client for rocketchat? 08:54 davidnind lilipute1h_asu: the log is here http://irc.koha-community.org/ 08:55 ashimema are you pointing out the lack of a cli client as a major drawback 08:55 jajm ashimema, it certainly is for me, i'm trying the rocket chat client: it takes ~400M of memory, while my irssi takes 2M :) 08:56 lilipute1h_asu jajm++ 08:56 ashimema ok, fair enough 08:57 cait2 hi davidnind :) 08:58 davidnind hi cat2! 08:58 davidnind hi cait2! 08:58 davidnind :) 08:59 lilipute1h_asu using pidgin or hexchat or weechat or whatever irc gui client doesn't seems like a big issue for new users. and there are web clients as well like mibbit 08:59 * ashimema goes to meetings 09:00 Joubu cait2: I blacklisted the bz spammer 09:01 cait2 Joubu: there were multiple logins - how did you figure out? 09:01 Joubu yes, just noticed that 09:18 SoniaB Hello everybody 09:19 cait2 hi Sonia 09:19 SoniaB I would be glad to test anything concerning revamped circulation rules during this virual hackest week 09:20 SoniaB Don't hesitate to ask me if needed 09:21 cait2 SoniaB++ 09:21 SoniaB Hi cait2! Ready for the hackfest from home? Not as good as Marseille... 09:21 cait2 the catering wil certainly lack 09:22 cait2 I am trying to create some Twitter noise about the hackfest https://twitter.com/Caitlin_83/status/1242015869368221697 wanna help? :) 09:24 davidnind What would you like on kohails or are you going to use the GBSD account? 09:24 davidnind (Bit slow in starting this week....) 09:25 SoniaB retweet done :) I will feed it if I have something to add 09:25 cait2 you could already add the circulation editor bit :) 09:25 cait2 get people curious 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix items.cn_sort vs cn_sort <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6d255b5e50b141caec6aad60f5dd440ba4af02f> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: (follow-up 2) Fix timestamp default value <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c9cc168bae98d70153b1b589d13a7c684cd059f> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Use new method Koha::Object->set_or_blank <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a881984413d8a09f59b064c9484f0d59533a923f> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Replace new occurrence of AddItem <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8170645f84be2b1f4c8e527258e58117ae2e0593> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix XSLT.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=34cca6a775abed84c2978b9ebd38bac56ae6a82a> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix cn_source for new item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=62852241430b9444acd600498fc51912f36a90e7> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix IsItemIssued.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a494bb1b49d0ec91b0f4a7edb44f7db6a435205f> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=974caa4304358423c08b9e2ea784ea83af2d09c1> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix safe_return return value in deletion tools <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de9ce93cf284aa32f8c5c527387949ebc79cc4ea> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: (follow-up) Fix timestamp default value <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57eb6e42265a830aabb01f5de0bcab49bd090356> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Move DelItem.t and Items_DelItemCheck.t tests to a Koha/Item.t subtest <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=794e8f992eee39641ec83beb83c140c6f7df4814> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix timestamp default value <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f70a738bca1782e7a90ef217473c2d50e335e3e4> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: (follow-up) Remove DelItemCheck and ItemSafeToDelete <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc6f25fec44273ed1407c910544af04c4700817e> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: cn_sort needs to be updated if cn_source changed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18555f244ad0bbb0526e58cb26993161d9fd07e0> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Replace recently added occurrences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f76a75a3d3b8e6c99d5dcd687580778364571c14> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: build cn_sort only if needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22f8584eadd2ace33f296f9cee1409ed6608e12b> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix items.cn_source vs cn_source <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=befc3f19f7d28dd3e92f719274d7e277e1a15fff> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: update permanent_location if location has been updated <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fce29fb77d61ff7c006874b22ae7a00adb80cf34> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix AutomaticItemModificationByAge.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bef6c36156a3e732c294d096169eb58682912e6b> 09:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Getting less item-level_itypes warnings (?) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eeaf0b19e08e96293be1bf663015e7138d80e69c> 09:29 * cait2 hopes she did not break Jenkins 09:29 davidnind Looks like all the bugs are fixed, we can all go home now! 09:30 davidnind :-D 09:33 SoniaB cait2: Which is the best BZ to begin with concerning the circulation rules? 15522? 09:33 cait2 nice try :) 09:34 cait2 Joubu: can you help? 09:34 cait2 looking at the graph, sec SoniaB, but Joubu is the expert 09:35 cait2 it looks like youg ot the right bug, dependences appear resolved 09:35 ashimema I think bug 15522 is the right place 09:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , New interface for revamped circulation rules 09:36 ashimema looks like kidclamp was demoing it to their partners 09:43 Joubu SoniaB: Bonjour :) There is only one left! bug 15522 09:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , New interface for revamped circulation rules 09:54 cait2 Joubu: is this one sandbox testable? 09:55 cait2 we could put it on the Trello and maybe advertisse #hfk20 09:56 Joubu it should be testable on a sandbox, yes 09:56 Joubu actually I am waiting for kidclamp to give us some feedback on it. But always good to have more! 09:58 cait2 Joubu: added to trello 09:59 cait2 ashimema: I found a bunch of old bugs around transfers and holds that probably would benefit from just being retested 09:59 cait2 was wondering how far you are with the transfer work and if it would be a good idea to publish that list somewhere? 10:00 ashimema :) 10:00 ashimema I just pushed a bunch of it :) 10:00 ashimema and am working on the next piece at the moment. 10:01 ashimema would be good to have that list of old transfers bugs.. be nice to test those 10:01 ashimema I've been adding lots of tests around the transfers code as a first step before refactoring a bunch of it. 10:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #195: UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/195/ 10:04 cait2 ok, so I will go ahead with t a little later! 10:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #768: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/768/ 10:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #220: UNSTABLE in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/220/ 10:33 ashimema Joubu... I'm on the case for those failures 10:34 Joubu I am too 10:35 Joubu ashimema: there are 2 follow-ups on 23463 10:35 ashimema ok.. 10:35 ashimema I've already got a followup for the Ill one 10:35 Joubu the selenium failure does not come from 23463 10:35 Joubu ashimema: perfect, that was my next one :) 10:35 ashimema okies 10:36 ashimema excellent 10:36 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 10:36 ashimema I'll grab your two now 10:37 Joubu and a 3rd one 10:37 Joubu attached now 10:37 Joubu that will fix all but the selenium one, if you have the ILL one 10:38 ashimema aha.. 10:38 ashimema thanks 10:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1227: UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1227/ 10:39 Joubu ashimema: about the selenium failure, did you push something modifying the dateaccesionned framework plugin? 10:39 ashimema hmm.. 10:39 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix wrong variable name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=243a5395de9be3e3971ae8171a8b2b3aa79e74bb> 10:39 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix CourseReserves/CourseItems.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=313b47c94e6397fc0ad0d8c0022941cd1cc3c476> 10:39 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: (RM follow-up) Add try block around Illrequest item creation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2edd08b4d820a9cbecb548c7e238b1322acbca9e> 10:39 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Replace a new occurrence of ModItem <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b9b641ac86a568fc446fe9890dd1a68d90f67b8> 10:39 ashimema I don't believe so.. 10:39 ashimema I pushed just 23463 since the last all green Jenkins 10:40 ashimema I had a feeling there might be the odd little test failure so thought it would be easiest to push on it's own.. 10:40 ashimema next up will the the attributes but 10:40 ashimema * next up will the the attributes bug 10:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #141: UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/141/ 11:03 SoniaB I tried to set a sandbox with the bywatersolutions system, but the staff and opac buttons lead to the setting page... did I miss something? http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com/ 11:04 ashimema khall around yet? 11:06 cait2 SoniaB: had that happen a while ago too - probably a problem on the sandbox system 11:06 cait2 going for a walk (lunch break) bbiab 11:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #691: UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/691/ 11:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #221: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/221/ 11:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #769: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/769/ 11:45 * kidclamp waves 11:49 * cait2 waves back 11:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1228: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1228/ 11:54 oleonard Hi #koha 11:55 kidclamp hello oleonard 11:56 oleonard Did I get here too late for the international assortment of snacks? 11:56 * kidclamp hides many wrappers 11:57 kidclamp *chews* what snacks? *chews* 11:57 cait2 oleonard: you are a little mean... now I remember... 11:57 cait2 also missing catered lunch right now 11:58 oleonard Okay now I'm very sad, time to distract myself with bugs 12:01 * oleonard wonders why his Mac doesn't import koha-testing-docker's bash_aliases file 12:06 kidclamp oleonard: try removing the line breaks from the aliases - i think when we were testing we found that made things grump 12:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #196: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/196/ 12:08 oleonard kidclamp++ 12:08 oleonard Thanks! 12:08 * oleonard offers a selection of powerful foreign licorice as payment 12:10 ashimema bug 24820 would be a nice easy SO for someone 12:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24820 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , The cashup workflow should use the static 'date' field rather than the transient 'timestamp' field in accountlines 12:10 ashimema jajm.. are you continueing on QAing the authorized balues translation bug? 12:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #142: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/142/ 12:14 Joubu ashimema: added a follow-up for the selenium test. I will open a bug report. Let me know if the commit description is meaningful 12:15 ashimema Thanks :) 12:16 jajm ashimema, i cannot really put the QA stamp on it but i can try to signoff the latest patch 12:17 ashimema ta 12:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: Fix selenium tests (highlight a bug in date management) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=757ca57bfdbd4346b90293429e658d239b8d0102> 12:24 * oleonard found the open source app Joplin the other day and is liking it a lot as an Evernote replacement 12:24 oleonard A random thought for you all. 12:25 ashimema I use Joplin 12:25 ashimema it's nice 12:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #692: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/692/ 12:27 oleonard ashimema: Do you use a FOSS Dropbox replacement too? 12:34 cait we use owncloud / nexcloud around here 12:36 cait hm was going to use framapad for a pad - but they have closed down for now (overloaded) - is Joplin an alternative? 12:38 cait hm found an old one - just can't open new, will reuse it 12:38 oleonard I use ownCloud and I don't know how it relates to Nextcloud... forks? 12:39 cait yes 12:39 * oleonard can't remember if he deliberately chose one over the other or just grabbed ownCloud 12:39 cait our university here offers nextcloud, but I think my personal one is still owncload 12:39 cait cloud 12:40 * oleonard imagines the open source ownToad, where you get your own toad. 12:41 oleonard Bug 24953 12:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24953 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Minor corrections to hold ratios report sidebar 12:42 cait oleonard++ :) 12:44 ashimema I don't use Dropbox much these days so haven't really needed to find a replacement yet. 12:44 marcelr hi #koha 12:44 oleonard Hi marcelr 12:44 ashimema I keep getting tempted to host my own little NextCloud (OwnCloud is still developed but all the original developers moved to NextCloud I believe) 12:44 marcelr thx bgkriegel++ 12:45 marcelr hi oleonard ashimema 12:45 ashimema hi 12:46 marcelr khall_++ 12:48 cait does this work for you? https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/9fht-koha-projects?lang=en 12:49 ashimema yup 12:51 oleonard Wow, splitter's working today! 12:51 ashimema :) 12:51 cait don't scare it 12:52 cait pad is open for editing now - type your hearts out if you want :) 13:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #693: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/693/ 13:10 nlegrand hey #koha 13:11 cait Added some testing tasks to the Trello 13:12 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:12 wahanui Congratulations! 13:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1229: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1229/ 13:16 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:16 wahanui Congratulations! 13:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #143: FIXED in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/143/ 13:25 tuxayo[m]1 hi #koha o/ 13:25 oleonard Hi tuxayo[m]1 13:27 tuxayo[m]1 cait: 13:27 tuxayo[m]1 «hm was going to use framapad for a pad - but they have closed down for now (overloaded) - is Joplin an alternative?» 13:27 tuxayo[m]1 They are overloaded 13:27 tuxayo[m]1 But many other hosters exists 13:27 tuxayo[m]1 (the CHATONS collective https://chatons.org/ ) 13:27 tuxayo[m]1 We made a list of public etherpad instance 13:28 tuxayo[m]1 https://wiki.chatons.org/doku.php/la_redaction_collaborative_avec_etherpad 13:28 cait tuxayo[m] thx, i worked around it be repurposing one I already had 13:28 cait they don't allow new, but you can use old ones 13:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #222: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/222/ 13:37 tuxayo[m]1 cait: If there are lags, we should move on. That show that they are short on resources. 13:37 tuxayo[m]1 One reason is because the french ministry of education is not willing/capable of providing collaboration tools. (when they can spend millions on non-libre software...) 13:37 tuxayo[m]1 So I i understand correctly they said on their official recommendations to school and million of pupils to (among ) simply use the tools of Framasoft. 13:37 tuxayo[m]1 Who then were furious. It's kinda like if there was a disruption of the canteens and the ministry directed the personnel and pupil to the soup kitchens 13:39 tuxayo[m]1 cait: actually if we go there: https://framapad.org/en/ 13:39 tuxayo[m]1 We can create a new pad. They set up some kind of load balancer would will redirect to another another Chaton. 13:40 cait yeah i translated the note on the start page 13:40 cait so far it seems to work well, no lags or issues 13:40 cait and i can understand why they weren't amused 13:40 Nemo_bis There are dozens of alternative etherpad instances to use 13:41 Nemo_bis (linked from the footer, "one instance among others") 13:45 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:45 wahanui Congratulations! 13:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #770: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/770/ 13:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Fix merge_with behavior <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ce0dd6b9225328e49098b69201767f240b47270> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Handle non existent attribute when importing patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8c6fcb8a0aff24fae155c1260c37b007da3da4a> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Fix patron modification approval <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea5e9f25e9cbeae9e12dd05e17175ae3203a92b2> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Do not explode if attribute does not have a valid av <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=994ea386c389886ced62dc42bc10d0325557876c> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Fix creation of new patron with attributes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc430529c1ea686d3727ce786a619441f1763a0a> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Fix POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8bcfd1c21177d98b0c7b839092befaa78993baeb> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Fix add/edit for checkboxes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bad6ec25feceb9a1a7701b5f7ac113f9a1ffa1b> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Fix Patrons/Import.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bb806ddf41c8263758948bf82dd0a41dda406b6> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Use search_with_library_limits for attribute types <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e1be8d385f681f83112e8dd445dd519cb6b6124> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Fix Auth_with_ldap.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=569e4080f10bdaf8dc5250cee0a168c31b066909> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: (follow-up) Fix t/db_dependent/Koha/Patrons.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e9622786f72b61ed884b554e8dff53c09842867> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: (follow-up) Move GetBorrowerAttributes to Koha::Patron - ILSDI <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3cc65156ecf5bc8d78edb8c741ab5afb2ffdb67> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Remove extended_attributes_code_value_arrayref AND C4::Members::Attributes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e37bfe3e4b395ef71a54c65226829248847cf1ce> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Remove extended_attributes_merge <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bffb16eb70c4cd08a8127b38d4672073dff37b99> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Remove SearchIdMatchingAttribute - prove we are not cheating <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4428d086575cf2df94261f33b89b37150b4215f9> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Remove C4::Members::AttributeTypes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=37e634bb5b99ab4bcdba45062527ad6bfe439f47> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Remove num_patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=837c9cdb21d695604879e7eb47b96234132012b8> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Move C4::Members::AttributeTypes::GetAttributeTypes to Koha::Patron::Attri... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1d210019b1f87465a8bad33f57ba6d20bec65f9> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Remove SearchIdMatchingAttribute <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=836e950d25148ca04ed0561c487772e3b0f7f8ee> 13:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Remove CheckUniqueness <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5dd44a8f088c5c8537d0e0046a34d57655f2b7fd> 13:53 ashimema That's the next big scary one pushed... 13:54 * ashimema crosses fingers and hopes for the best 13:54 cait2 but really glad to see them move an dgo in 13:54 cait2 fingers crossed as well! 13:57 * oleonard will bbl 14:00 ashimema bug 24951 is another trivial signoff for someone out there.. adding ID's is nice 14:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24951 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Payout modal confirm button should have an ID 14:02 tuxayo[m]1 Question about koha-testing-docker: is it necessary to run 'kd' to deleted the containers after doing a "docker-compose pull" ? 14:05 kidclamp tcohen khall_ ^ 14:05 tcohen yes 14:06 tcohen kd basically cleans the container's volumes 14:06 tcohen and networks 14:06 tuxayo[m]1 tcohen++ 14:06 tuxayo[m]1 Then my test failure should be false positives, thanks :) 14:07 tcohen yeah, koha-misc4dev will find there's data on the DB 14:07 tcohen and probably fail to reset 14:09 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:09 wahanui Congratulations! 14:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #197: FIXED in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/197/ 14:16 ashimema :) 14:19 cait2 yay :) 14:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #144: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/144/ 14:23 kohaputti kidclamp, ashimema: any chance bug 15522 will get to 20.05 release? Or will it be the most certainly 20.11? 14:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , New interface for revamped circulation rules 14:24 ashimema If it's PQA'd by the end of this week most certainly there's a chance 14:24 ashimema this week is the final window for bugs like that one this cycle though 14:24 kidclamp I don't think it is quite ready for production 14:25 ashimema how far off is it kidclamp.. i've not looked at it at all yet.. but know people are testing it like mad at the moment 14:26 kohaputti if it would get SO'd by wednesday I *juuust* might be able to PQA it by friday 14:26 Joubu like mad? 14:26 kidclamp if testing it is important to load a real library's data. It does seem to work well on the small scale, but with a large data set it is laggy and still very wide. i.e. it doesn't solve the problems we hoped it would 14:27 kohaputti sounds like not ready for production then, and I would wait for 20.11 14:27 cait2 but would be good to get feedback now 14:27 cait2 to see what kind of changes we need to make 14:27 kidclamp this was work we sponsored and we don't think it is reayd, that's why I put it in discussion 14:28 kidclamp we are going to demo it to sponsors for feedback 14:28 Joubu kidclamp: maybe something like bug 24670 needs to be applied to 15522 14:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24670 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Circulation and fine rules page has performance issues since issuingrules change 14:28 Joubu Is performance the only problematic issue? 14:29 ashimema sounds like the UI isn't there yet either 14:29 kidclamp it offers potential for improvement, we need librarian/sponsor opinion 14:29 kidclamp but 20.05 would be a bit fast 14:30 ashimema okies 14:38 Joubu kidclamp: with 15522 rules are all retrieved at once already, so the slowness comes from the react part I guess 14:38 SoniaB kidclamp: i'd like to test 15522 because it's just a nightmare for us to change circulation rules in my library. 14:38 Joubu apply the patches locally 14:39 Joubu then, `yarn install;yarn build` 14:39 SoniaB I'm gonna ask to one of my colleague but I don't have all the access I need to do it from home with our data 14:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #694: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/694/ 14:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #771: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/771/ 15:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #223: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/223/ 15:13 * cait thinks we need a hackfest song 15:14 cait like a title melody to play each day... 15:15 caroline I was watching a documentary on Ghostbesters yesterday... 15:15 caroline Who you ganna call? 15:15 Joubu khall: bug 22844 - there is only 1 patch attached, was it expected? 15:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Simplify the process of selecting database columns for system preferences 15:16 Joubu I think you forgot to attached the follow-ups with your QA stamp 15:18 cait caroline: i like the suggestion :) 15:20 khall Joubu no, something must've gone wrong with my attaching the rest of the patches :\ 15:20 khall I'll take a look 15:21 cait lol 15:21 cait i just typed git so <bugnumber> ... big mistake 15:22 cait khall: pqa on bug 21443 - thx for the follow-up - hope it made sense to you 15:22 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21443 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to exclude holidays when calculating rentals fees by time period 15:22 khall ty! 15:24 cait oh no oleonard 15:24 cait bug 24874 is not broken for me :( coudl someone else check? 15:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24874 major, P3, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Printing is broken on opac-results.pl page 15:25 cait @later tell oleonard could you have a look on bug 24874 please? 15:25 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 15:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #198: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/198/ 15:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1230: UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1230/ 15:28 Joubu cait: did you test on 19.11? 15:28 cait lucas said he saw it on master 15:28 cait so no, tested with master 15:29 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24874#c14 15:29 huginn Bug 24874: major, P3, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Printing is broken on opac-results.pl page 15:29 Joubu Mason created it for 19.11 first 15:30 lukeG i do see it in master and 19.11 on FF 74 15:30 lukeG on MacOS 15:31 cait for me on maser it looks nice before and has extrra whitespace with the patch 15:31 lukeG also I see it in Chrome (v80.0.3987.149) 15:31 cait not sure if i have covers active 15:31 lukeG no custom CSS 15:31 cait I do want it fixed, I am just wondering if we are missing a key point 15:32 Joubu broken on master for me as well 15:32 cait hmmm 15:32 cait do you have covers? 15:32 lukeG no covers 15:33 Joubu patch fixes it 15:34 Joubu I am after a reset_all, so fres 15:34 Joubu fresh DB 15:35 cait [off] http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/Selection_038.png my before and after 15:36 Joubu weird 15:36 cait agreed 15:36 cait oleonard: ping? :) 15:36 oleonard Back 15:37 cait I was missing you... 15:37 cait we are talking about the bug i left you a later for 15:38 lukeG cait: do you have IDreamLibraries prefs to 'add' or 'dont add'? 15:38 cait Joubu: yours looks really bad 15:39 Joubu On master it is really bad, yes 15:39 lukeG I notice a difference if I toggle those sys prefs 15:39 cait lukeG: hah... i might ont have them as i just wrote a patch to remove them 15:39 cait that oculd explain 15:40 lukeG if I put them to 'add' print looks good, but when they are set to 'dont add' everything looks weird 15:40 cait strange, because removing them shoudl equal off ... i would have gussed 15:41 cait but form removing them... i think the issue might be enhanced content related then 15:44 * oleonard had to relinquish his computer for someone else's Zoom meeting 15:44 cait oh 15:44 cait on the phone? 15:45 oleonard I'm back on, getting stuff fired up again 15:45 oleonard but also ordering lunch :) 15:45 cait what's for lunch? 15:46 reiveune bye 15:48 Joubu ashimema: follow-up on 20443 15:48 ashimema tanks Joubu 15:49 oleonard cait: Chicken salads, chicken sandwiches (and beans & rice for the non-meat-eater) 15:49 cait sounds good 15:50 corilynn mmmm chicken salad 15:50 cait with the restaurants being force-closed here some more offer delivery, but it's too hard for a single person to get to the min amount 15:50 corilynn I had one yesterday, on a croissant 15:51 oleonard We're doing carry-out, but with 5 people at home the minimum is not hard to hit :| 15:51 corilynn we did BBQ takeout on Saturday 15:51 oleonard corilynn: We tried that but our BBQ place is closed for the duration :( 15:51 oleonard cait: With bug 24874 we're talking about 19.11.x specifically? 15:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24874 major, P3, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Printing is broken on opac-results.pl page 15:52 cait oleonard: weren't you vegan? :) 15:52 corilynn We sent the kids (18) to get it up by the airport.. 30 miles 15:52 cait oleonard: and master, it's a bit mixed up 15:52 oleonard cait: I try to be, when it's not cheese lunch day ;) 15:52 cait getting on a bus to pick up food seems counter intutitive in the current situation :) so i guess I will stick with ohme cooked 15:52 oleonard So beans & rice for me. Happily the BBQ place offers vegan menu choices 15:53 cait ah :) 15:53 corilynn ya'll are making me hungry 15:54 cait for the CSS patch, I just want to make sure we don't fix one caase and it bites us on another combination of settings (if possible) 15:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20443: Add missing use statement <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=acf7ec2d872b3ac55259cf114b32bfc4c9163037> 16:04 tuxayo[m]1 Does anyone else got a failure on the test t/db_dependent/Acquisition/GetBasketAsCSV.t ? 16:04 tuxayo[m]1 https://copycat.drycat.fr/?87d310ce883914af#HcRm15YAA9cD1xdFa8TAip2WFsjmgNzEcfTPmT8c3J5Y 16:13 ashimema I just pushed a fix for that 16:14 ashimema see the above huginn ;) 16:24 Joubu ashimema, kidclamp, tcohen: Opinions needed on the patch I attached on bug 23463 comment 158 - I am stuck there 16:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23463 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Move C4::Items CRUD subroutines to Koha::Item 16:26 ashimema the final followup (follow-up 3) right? 16:27 Joubu yes 16:27 Joubu ashimema: not sure you should push it without feedback from Tomas 16:27 Joubu I PMed him, but he did not answer yet 16:27 Joubu or we will end up with a "follow-up 21" patch :) 16:28 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:28 wahanui Congratulations! 16:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1231: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1231/ 16:28 Joubu ashimema: the idea is to understand what's going on, start a mysql8 container, then prove Item.t and Object.t 16:28 Joubu if you remove one of those line, at least one test will fail 16:29 Joubu not sure which one is wrong: the test, the code or both? :) 16:29 Joubu see you tomorrow! 16:31 ashimema is this not the mysql5.5 issue where you cannot have two timestamp columns with not nulls? 16:31 ashimema feels like it. 16:31 ashimema I want to get rid of 5.5 support.. this is one of the many reasons 16:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:40 wahanui Congratulations! 16:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #145: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/145/ 16:52 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:52 wahanui Congratulations! 16:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #695: FIXED in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/695/ 16:56 oleonard Anyone else find that koha-testing-docker won't import a mysql dump if there is data in biblioimages or creator_images? 16:56 oleonard Never had that problem when kohadevbox was working 16:59 ashimema hmm 16:59 ashimema I think a recent addition added a timestamp field to that table 16:59 ashimema not sure what it would affect anything though 16:59 oleonard No big deal, just curious 16:59 * oleonard can easily jettison biblioimages 17:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #224: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/224/ 17:03 tuxayo[m]1 ashimema: 17:03 tuxayo[m]1 > I just pushed a fix for that 17:03 tuxayo[m]1 :D 17:03 * ashimema goes for dinner 17:04 ashimema back in a bit #koha 17:05 oleonard cait still around? 17:14 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:14 wahanui Congratulations! 17:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #772: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/772/ 17:37 oleonard kidclamp around? 17:37 * kidclamp rolls 17:38 oleonard Hey, I'm trying to test Bug 16787 and I'm not sure I'm looking for the right hing 17:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16787 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , 'Too many holds' message appears inappropriately and is missing data 17:39 * oleonard wonders why we still have itemtype-level "not for loan" settings 17:40 oleonard I guess I'm not testing correctly because I was looking at an item with other not for loan limitations 17:40 kidclamp if you have a circ rule set to 0 holds right now when trying to hold the interface says "Too Many Holds" this makes it say "No Holds Allowed" 17:41 kidclamp if holds are specifically disallowed per itemtype I think that alreayd says 'no holds allowed' 17:45 wizzyrea hi 17:45 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 17:45 wizzyrea howsit 17:45 wizzyrea does anybody have an opinion on "koha-sip --restart only restarts sip if it's running" 17:46 wizzyrea as in, if I taught it to start it on restart even if it's not running, would anyone complain? 17:46 oleonard I would expect it to start it if it weren't running 17:46 wizzyrea ME TOO 17:46 oleonard I mean... the goal is for it to be running, so... 17:46 wizzyrea right?! 17:47 wizzyrea ashimema, ^ thoughts on any of that? 17:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:48 wahanui Congratulations! 17:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #199: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/199/ 18:01 ashimema agreed.. 18:01 ashimema I'd start it when restart is called if it's not already running 18:02 ashimema DWIM and all that 19:01 * magnuse pokes his head in 19:02 * oleonard-away ignores magnuse because he has no pizza 19:03 hayley hello! 19:10 magnuse oleonard: :) 19:10 magnuse hiya hayley 19:13 hayley may the logs show that I have decided (under chris' advice) to be very conservative with this minor point release 19:14 oleonard Can't go wrong with conservative for point releases! 19:14 hayley :) 19:16 magnuse +1 19:25 ashimema Conservative works 😀 19:27 rangi morning 19:28 oleonard Hi rangi 19:29 magnuse kia ora rangi 19:50 ashimema hi rangi 19:51 ashimema I think my plan to host a more modern irc webclient is a no go :( 19:51 rangi hmm? didn't work? 19:52 ashimema oftc basically block that.. the mibbit thing they host uses webirc (a socket.io library they developed) to basically expose irc over a http connection.. 19:52 ashimema means irc connections get made at the browser end.. 19:53 ashimema I was hoping to in effect host a boucer.. so all connections would have come from that.. but after reading their policies I believe that's blocked.. 19:53 ashimema I certainly was seeing some wierd connection issues in my testing which seemed to show that. 19:54 ashimema I also tried out a rocket.chat bridge using matterbridge.. but that doesn't hugely win us much either 19:54 rangi ahh yeah 19:54 ashimema i.e the bridge doesn't support PM's and the bridged messages look a bit bleak on both sides 19:55 rangi right, yeah that's not really workable 19:55 ashimema oh well.. was worth a bit of a try.. I'll write up my findings on a wiki page soon so we don't venture down the same dead ends as i did 19:55 rangi sounds good 19:56 ashimema I'm not really sure how Matrix is doing it to be honest.. I'm sure they must being doing the same sort of bouncer like setup I was looking to host.. maybe they ust have a relationship with oftc 19:56 rangi could well be 19:57 ashimema I'd recomment matrix + riot.. but I've not actually found it all that reliable of late.. 19:57 ashimema and not sure it really feels much more modern 19:58 rangi we may just want/need to set up a rocketchat server and try that out, if it gets more participation from outside our core group, ill begrudgingly move (and if we can get soething like huginn running there to do meetings etc) 19:59 mwr Hey, quick question: I have a library that had it's barcodes imported from a different solution... and the barcodes have spaces in them. Ugh! What a pain. Is there a way to force Koha to handle said barcodes with our without the space? (Auto-remote-whiltespace, or something like that?) 20:00 ashimema I have a rocket.chat server up and running 20:01 caroline mwr, check out the system preference 20:01 caroline itemBarcodeInputFilter 20:01 ashimema had to get that going to try and the matterbridge 20:04 ashimema 134.122.110.63 20:12 mwr Excellent. I will check that out. thanks. 20:14 oleonard rangi will you Hackfest virtually this week? 20:14 rangi perhaps, we are pretty swamped with libraries needing help for the lockdown at the moment maybe tomorrow 20:15 oleonard Understandable 20:17 ashimema indeed 20:27 tcohen hola 20:27 wahanui what's up, tcohen 20:27 hayley hola! 20:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #269: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/269/ 20:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #270: UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/270/ 20:32 tcohen hola hayley 20:32 tcohen babysittin + market queue done, now work as much as I can .-D 20:33 kathryn hola tcohen :) 20:33 tcohen hola kathryn 20:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #260: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/260/ 20:54 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 20:54 wahanui Congratulations! 20:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #271: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/271/ 20:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #270: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/270/ 21:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #272: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/272/ 21:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #261: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/261/ 21:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #271: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/271/ 22:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #262: UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/262/