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00:50 hayley       is anybody around at the moment?
02:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #8: NOW UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/8/
07:36 reiveune     hello
07:42 alex_a       Bonjour
08:43 cait         hi #koha
09:58 ashimema     quiet
09:59 Joubu        bouh!
10:22 cait         very quiet
10:22 cait         we are busy extending all those due dates
10:23 paxed        ha. sounds verrry familiar
10:24 cait         paxed: how are yougoing about it?
10:24 cait         at the moment i think extending due dates is the least evil... as it means fine calcualtions and overdue notices (we use triggered) will later start again nicely
10:26 paxed        cait: right. i just did update issues set date_due=... where branchcode in (...) and returndate is null and date_due between ...  and the same for reserves.
10:27 paxed        unfortunately couple places didn't notify us on friday, so they've got fines and overdue notices generated. :(
10:28 cait         hm reserves? because of the pickup date? we don't do automatic cancelling, so i guess it shoudl be fine there... mostly
10:28 cait         yeah we have of those too, that I still got to figure out
10:29 cait         also encouraing/reminding everyone to add due date
10:29 cait         um
10:29 cait         holidays
10:29 cait         add holidays
10:30 paxed        cait: yeah, reserves.expirationdate
10:36 ashimema     Joubu is about to submit code for the bug I opened btw ;)
10:36 ashimema     and we're hoping to fast track it so it's in the next maint releases
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22943: Remove unused line from Auth.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea7ec1a5d3d1c262345743bced3669c5cab39baf>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24858: Correct labels on wording in ExcludeHolidaysFromMaxPickUpDelay <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fc78cae28db6bd79549a2d78674eb51b276600f>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 5103: Refactor the code to avoid repetition <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8468a92029af19ced6d1454ed4c5c3ae30aca34>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24767: Hide the "Claim returned" tab if the feature is turned off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22f2494914a4bbec0bb4612e813515ee7412008a>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 5103: (follow-up) Using mapped item fields instead of hardcoding subfields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4432429c1e164adecff78869627168cf276c5d50>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24838: Fix help link for patron categories <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=90480693552e305b383bf005c1fe4f2cef705228>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 19288: Don't show patron info for item level holds on details.pl unless hold... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81fd7a6936d258001aa3a0f2d0ec5d7758482f45>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22943: (QA follow-up) Add new cases <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da5024e5c26a75c106504809b48325532c402510>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24402: About template corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0666b644be37899217d64c75e1a610b0a0de1724>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24789: Remove ITS macro format <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c3a2b474806d1499780966bdb35c0ddabc609d0>
11:04 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 5103: Format dates in MARC detail using dateformat syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d505e371fa6c5848af47d48d43872fb922dc04c>
11:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24627: Correct style of clubs search results during hold process <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b47f87b0ff5c020300108ef4fd8e4145bfccd13>
11:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23521: (follow-up) Add quotes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63641856dd07880bc20e285e04387c162e22050c>
11:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23521: Put parentheses arround limit terms <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5e367c54ebaf7ddd9cd2f1df8aa1e7f4299980a>
11:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23383: fix IdRef syspref test in XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=67ef0d870963dbc62b87071c51fd1974f0f03eef>
11:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22943: Renames the in_ipset function to in_iprange in C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=619d6362ce895ba4da543dcd809b162ed7a9b6b5>
11:17 cait         FU was accruing?
11:18 cait         or F?
11:18 ashimema     FU
11:18 ashimema     F = Fine, FU = Fine Unreturned (i.e accruing)
11:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1210: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1210/
11:46 oleonard     Hi #koha
11:50 kidclamp     hi oleonard
11:51 magnuse      \o/
11:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #674: UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/674/
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13:28 dc_rogers    okay i am trying to load the koha installer via browser but all i get is the html root ... what did i miss?
13:31 oleonard     dc_rogers: Is the default Apache site enabled? You can try disabling and see if that fixes it
13:32 dc_rogers    will that cause isses with accessing phpmyadmin and other such tools?/
13:32 oleonard     dc_rogers: Sorry I don't know
13:33 dc_rogers    lol one way to find out. and i am still learning apache soooo how do i disable or at least redirect the default to koha?
13:34 oleonard     sudo a2dissite 000-default.conf
13:35 oleonard     dc_rogers: It's a blunt instrument useful if you're setting up a test environment just for Koha. Not always what folks need.
13:36 dc_rogers    no i see what is happening. my external dns service is redirecting to the IP of the server koha is set up to ... I need to do something different
14:16 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #675: FIXED in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/675/
14:36 tcohen       hi
14:41 ashimema     all green.. time to push some more stuff then :)
14:43 lukeG        Morning Koha
14:53 lukeG        ashimema: I think hayley and I are encountering the same failures with bz21296. Don't know what is the best way forward, to try and make tests past or revert the patchset
14:54 ashimema     let me take a quick look
14:55 lukeG        thanks
14:56 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24827: Add a test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4f841fd8ce5e21c1c84dba21dace6081451fa8b>
14:56 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24827: Specify UTF-8 as encoding in new_from_xml() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f9aedaf1d0d6a381293265b0c8a691a12fc1258>
14:56 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24827: Standardise on 'UTF-8' as the encoding name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d26fb3a9dcaa2c40abd95f3d454973865194cc8>
14:56 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24862: Handle annonymous sessions gracefuly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de07356028d5b98af3a7cd7cbae02a7ad6402a43>
14:56 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24862: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0547ad34dfe01ca7d7660df59e29bc30fdf3cf1d>
14:56 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24776: Remove file Koha/Template/Plugin/Borrowers.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c186a3e25efb174d54b5ca6e5d6599979bcd568>
14:56 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24776: Remove Borrowers.IsDebarred call <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0c872992f41977f3d3590eac08822cad51e42dc>
14:56 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24776: Remove Borrowers.HasOverdues call <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0483bd6e244fe81a858ad3e22cbd92fe2a83672>
15:00 ashimema     hmm
15:01 ashimema     those failures pass fine for me on 19.05..
15:01 ashimema     strange
15:07 ashimema     very strange.. I can't replicate the failure on any branches
15:07 ashimema     grr
15:07 * ashimema   schedules a new set of Jenkins runs
15:08 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24789: [follow-up] Fix saving of macros <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8f39a832b5478c8579d52ff1043f2b64a22482e>
15:22 kidclamp     @seen davidnind
15:22 huginn       kidclamp: davidnind was last seen in #koha 4 days, 18 hours, 46 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <davidnind> catch everyone later
15:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #754: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/754/
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15:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #207: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/207/
15:57 reiveune     bye
15:58 Joubu        lukeG: which failures do you get?
16:03 lukeG        Joubu: failing on /kohadevbox/koha/t/db_dependent/Circulation.t
16:03 lukeG        in 19.05.x
16:07 Joubu        I do not recreate that one, do you?
16:07 Joubu        ha yes, got it now!
16:07 ashimema     can't either Joubu
16:07 ashimema     oh..
16:07 ashimema     intersing
16:08 Joubu        randomly..
16:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #676: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/676/
16:12 * cait3      is so tired of seeing the word due date
16:12 cait3        Fälligkeitsdatum in German ;)
16:14 lukeG        Joubu: doesn't seem so random for me, happening always
16:16 Joubu        lukeG: perfect, not for me. Could you try that:
16:16 Joubu        http://paste.koha-community.org/19075
16:16 Joubu        no, not enough
16:20 Joubu        lukeG: bug 24881; could you try the patch on 19.05 please?
16:20 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24881 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Circulation.t still fails if tests are ran slowly
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16:43 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #77: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/77/
16:44 lukeG        Joubu: I still see the same tests failing after applying bz24881
16:44 lukeG        :(
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17:10 sonygoup     hey
17:10 oleonard     Hi sonygoup
17:10 sonygoup     having an issue with getting MariaDB / MYSQL DB working
17:10 sonygoup     im geeting auth error, it failed turning on
17:10 sonygoup     DBI Connection failed: Unknown database 'koha_library
17:10 sonygoup     any idea how to fix
17:11 sonygoup     im using Ubuntu 18.04 with the most current version of Koha
17:13 oleonard     sonygoup: Is this a new Koha installation with an empty database?
17:14 sonygoup     yes
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17:16 sonygoup     huh
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17:17 sonygoup     i just used the get koha-common command so i didnt select a particular build
17:18 sonygoup     wait its a bot...
17:18 oleonard     Yes, ignore koha-jenkins
17:19 oleonard     sonygoup: Can you access mysql on the command line to verify you have the correct credentials?
17:20 oleonard     The message you get is from the web installer?
17:21 sonygoup     yes
17:21 sonygoup     i didnt get to enter anything
17:21 sonygoup     the prompt never came up
17:26 oleonard     sonygoup: The simplest solution if this is a brand new installation is to remove this new koha instance and start over. I'm not sure what might have gone wrong
17:27 sonygoup     okay so do i make another vm
17:27 sonygoup     or clean everything in this vm?
17:28 oleonard     I don't think so. I think you only remove the koha instance
17:28 sonygoup     ok ill give it a try
17:28 oleonard     https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-remove
17:29 sonygoup     lol that command failed
17:29 sonygoup     lll
17:30 sonygoup     instance1: unexpected operator Koha configuration directory for instance "instance1"
17:30 oleonard     You have to replace "instance1" with the name of your koha instance
17:32 sonygoup     so ?
17:33 sonygoup     thanks
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18:35 caroline     does anyone have audio alerts on?
18:35 oleonard     Yes
18:35 caroline     I'm trying to make a tutorial on how to set this up and as soon as I turn it on and access circulation.pl, there is a beep
18:36 caroline     I looked through the inspector and there is a span with class audio-alert-success that is empty
18:36 caroline     is that normal?
18:36 andrew__     i believe so, caroline
18:37 caroline     huh... seems a bit overkill to have a beep everytime we access circulation.pl (it's in the default sounds provided with Koha)
18:37 oleonard     That's what I get too caroline
18:37 andrew__     as I understand it, the audio alert setup is looking just for the presence of that span, not for any specfiic value in it
18:38 caroline     yup, that»'s how I understand it too
18:38 andrew__     I'd assumed it was meant as a "You're ready to check out!" noise. sometimes helpful? I guess?
18:38 caroline     oleonard: any idea why that span is there?
18:39 oleonard     It might be desirable to be able to define a different audio cue when circulation is "blank" and ready to accept a patron card
18:39 oleonard     ...rather than ready to accept an item barcode
18:39 oleonard     Right now Koha treats those two states the same with regard to audio
18:40 caroline     I read in https://bywatersolutions.com/education/setting-up-sounds-in-koha that you can use jQuery in the selectors so I guess I could change it
19:32 hayley       morning all\
19:37 cait         morning
19:42 lukeG        morning
20:18 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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20:23 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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21:05 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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21:26 cait         Joubu: should bug 24722 update old_reserves too?
21:26 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24722 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , reserves.priority must be NOT NULL
23:13 oleonard     My name is oleonard and I'm here to say we should git rid of guided reports in a major way
23:15 rangi        i wrote that shit and I agree
23:15 hayley       I like your song oleonard
23:15 rangi        to be fair to myself, I did it under duress
23:15 oleonard     :)
23:15 rangi        was the first thing I worked on as an employee of liblime
23:16 oleonard     I mean, nobody uses it right??
23:16 rangi        nope
23:16 oleonard     SQL reports are so much better?
23:16 rangi        that's what I said too!
23:16 rangi        yep
23:16 rangi        you can't build a simple click and play editor that is going to do anything useful
23:16 cait         i am asked to train it and i don't like doing that
23:16 rangi        people need to understand the db structure
23:16 cait         but they don't give up on it until you explain
23:16 rangi        yeah
23:16 rangi        that's why it's better if its not there
23:17 * cait       volunteers oleonard to file a bug suggesting that
23:17 cait         because I shoudl be asleep :)
23:17 * oleonard   will!
23:21 oleonard     Bug 24885
23:21 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24885 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Remove guided reports
23:21 cait         oleonard++
23:27 * oleonard   realizes his library has a terrible track record on sponsoring devs... guided reports, queryparser... MARC support :D
23:27 cait         ouch
23:27 oleonard     That's why I have to keep submitting patches. It's attonement
23:27 rangi        hehe
23:27 cait         at least queryparser was a good idea
23:27 rangi        queryparse suffered only from no one maintaining it
23:28 rangi        it's still a good idea
23:28 rangi        but we still have no one to maintain it
23:28 cait         we actually just removed it... there were tons of serious bugs and noone there to fix
23:29 * oleonard   hopes to live to see MARC support get removed for lack of support ;)
23:29 cait         heh
23:29 rangi        im trying!!
23:30 oleonard     "Whose idea was this?!" those futurefolk will ask, and I will pretend I know nothing